Obviously Uncharted 2 is Not console graphics king. (56k N/A)

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

AC2 is better technically. Like others have said, the fact that you can explore absolutely anywhere in the city is huge plus. That's like in the psone/n64 gen when some people said psone was better but actually it was only in bs cutscenes and in levels with extremely constricted movement and static cameras

YekDastan316

I'll say AC2 looks just as good as UC2, it also has alot of pretty well detailed people on screen(alot), and, like you said open world. But yea I agree KZ2>AC2>UC2 technically, but I think FC2, RFG, beats kz2.

[QUOTE="YekDastan316"]

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

AC2 is better technically. Like others have said, the fact that you can explore absolutely anywhere in the city is huge plus. That's like in the psone/n64 gen when some people said psone was better but actually it was only in bs cutscenes and in levels with extremely constricted movement and static cameras

Threebabycows

I'll say AC2 looks just as good as UC2, it also has alot of pretty well detailed people on screen(alot), and, like you said open world. But yea I agree KZ2>AC2>UC2 technically, but I think FC2, RFG, beats kz2.

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[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]Cheap deph of field, to make it more cinematic... Threebabycows

I'm not referring to the depth of field, I'm referring to the blurry outline around characters/objects trying to hide jaggies, I've seen it used in a variety of console games as a cheap AA substitute.

QAA, that is only used on the PS3.

Only QAA isn't a subsitute and is actually AA.

It's about as stressful as 2xMSAA (what most 360 games use), and its about as good at removing jagges as 4x.

However it does cause a slight blur.

It's really more of a preference than it is a requirement, and MSAA has been used on the ps3 before (Resistance 2, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword)

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

I'm not referring to the depth of field, I'm referring to the blurry outline around characters/objects trying to hide jaggies, I've seen it used in a variety of console games as a cheap AA substitute.

swazidoughman

QAA, that is only used on the PS3.

Only QAA isn't a subsitute and is actually AA.

It's about as stressful as 2xMSAA (what most 360 games use), and its about as good at removing jagges as 4x.

However it does cause a slight blur.

It's really more of a preference than it is a requirement, and MSAA has been used on the ps3 before (Resistance 2, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword)

I doubt that, or the devs would use that, also the blur isn't that great to look at so if they could, I think they would. Why would they change it, if it is the same.

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

QAA, that is only used on the PS3.

Threebabycows

Only QAA isn't a subsitute and is actually AA.

It's about as stressful as 2xMSAA (what most 360 games use), and its about as good at removing jagges as 4x.

However it does cause a slight blur.

It's really more of a preference than it is a requirement, and MSAA has been used on the ps3 before (Resistance 2, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword)

I doubt that, or the devs would use that, also the blur isn't that great to look at so if they could, I think they would. Why would they change it, if it is the same.

Go to beyond 3d or something and go see for yourself.

A slight blur is a decent comprimise for significantly less jaggies.

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

Only QAA isn't a subsitute and is actually AA.

It's about as stressful as 2xMSAA (what most 360 games use), and its about as good at removing jagges as 4x.

However it does cause a slight blur.

It's really more of a preference than it is a requirement, and MSAA has been used on the ps3 before (Resistance 2, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword)

swazidoughman

I doubt that, or the devs would use that, also the blur isn't that great to look at so if they could, I think they would. Why would they change it, if it is the same.

Go to beyond 3d or something and go see for yourself.

A slight blur is a decent comprimise for significantly less jaggies.

The bolded makes sense, I know there are titles with MSAA on the PS3, but if 2xMSAA was really less stressful they would use it, esp. in a game like KZ2(because of the already excessive blur). The PS3 uses QAA on RE5 while the 360 uses 4xMSAA, not saying the 360 is stronger(they are equal imo), it is just obv. that MSAA must be somewhat hard for the PS3.

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

I doubt that, or the devs would use that, also the blur isn't that great to look at so if they could, I think they would. Why would they change it, if it is the same.

Threebabycows

Go to beyond 3d or something and go see for yourself.

A slight blur is a decent comprimise for significantly less jaggies.

The bolded makes sense, I know there are titles with MSAA on the PS3, but if 2xMSAA was really less stressful they would use it, esp. in a game like KZ2(because of the already excessive blur). The PS3 uses QAA on RE5 while the 360 uses 4xMSAA, not saying the 360 is stronger(they are equal imo), it is just obv. that MSAA must be somewhat hard for the PS3.

Well, the lack of a cache like the 360's eDRAM does hinder it's capabilities to do AA.

And the AA in RE5 is actually Dynamic and can switch between 2x and 4x depending how how stressful a scene is.

But like I said, I think the use of QAA is really more of a preference since demanding games such as Uncharted use MSAA.

Ok guys its time to settle this, QAA is not Real AA it's blurr coupled with edge detection. Here are the results.

360 (no AA or 2XAA im not sure)

PS3 (QAA)

Look how badly those textures are blurred and for what? I can deal with jaggies i can't deal with games looking like i forgot my glasses.

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

Go to beyond 3d or something and go see for yourself.

A slight blur is a decent comprimise for significantly less jaggies.

swazidoughman

The bolded makes sense, I know there are titles with MSAA on the PS3, but if 2xMSAA was really less stressful they would use it, esp. in a game like KZ2(because of the already excessive blur). The PS3 uses QAA on RE5 while the 360 uses 4xMSAA, not saying the 360 is stronger(they are equal imo), it is just obv. that MSAA must be somewhat hard for the PS3.

Well, the lack of a cache like the 360's eDRAM does hinder it's capabilities to do AA.

And the AA in RE5 is actually Dynamic and can switch between 2x and 4x depending how how stressful a scene is.

But like I said, I think the use of QAA is really more of a preference since demanding games such as Uncharted use MSAA.

I personally don't think Uncharted is really that demanding, I mean the first had static lighting, (this one doesn't), This UC2 has very little going on compared to GEOW2/KZ2, and way more linear than both (that deserves an award lol)

Ok guys its time to settle this, QAA is not Real AA it's blurr coupled with edge detection. Here are the results.

360 (no AA or 2XAA im not sure)

PS3 (QAA)

Look how badly those textures are blurred and for what? I can deal with jaggies i can't deal with games looking like i forgot my glasses.

BoloTheGreat

I am having a hard time telling the differnece,lol.

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I didn't know water turned your shirt into chrome armor. Nathan Drake resembles a toy action figure! Oh noes!

BioShockOwnz

Oh, look at the fanboy undercover. The same guy who probably thinks when the boys from Gears are in the Riftworm, the blood that was spackled all over their suits looked great. You do realize just like water doesn't chrome your clothes, wet blood does not stick to metal right?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

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I didn't know water turned your shirt into chrome armor. Nathan Drake resembles a toy action figure! Oh noes!

gdp72

Oh, look at the fanboy undercover. The same guy who probably thinks when the boys from Gears are in the Riftworm, the blood that was spackled all over their suits looked great. You do realize just like water doesn't chrome your clothes, wet blood does not stick to metal right?