**Official** 360 beats PS3 in 2011 SALES

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#251 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Warriorboy1990"]So people buy the console with no games? Makes sense. CanYouDiglt
Between retail and XBL the 360 has 149 more games that are AAA,AA, or A then the PS3. Also do not forget how most multiplat games look better on the 360.

For 99% of them, you can't tell. Such a stupid argument.
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#252 _Cadbury_
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So the 360 outsold the PS3 by just 800k units. I'm not sure why anyone is celebrating. Especially since they had to push through substantially more 360's in the past quater than ever before, for no obvious reason.
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#253 ShadowMoses900
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I left this thread because people started getting a little personal and zealous, I came back thinking it has settled down. Guess I was wrong, it's just sales guys, get over it. And 4 million more, whoohoo who cares? They're basicaly almost tied.

And no one is going out of business, only an idiot would think so. I'm leaving this thread again as things haven't changed.

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#254 ForzaGearsFace
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If you ever wanna know why Cows are the worst this is a perfect thread to show why this statement is truth. You see cows who claimed all year long that the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide whenever the NPD numbers came out now changing tune to saying its selling on average better than the 360. You also see these cows quoting vgchartz lulz as truth when it is widely known in this forum that vgchartz can never be used. You also see these same cows saying wow the 360 only outsold the PS3 by 800 units yet these fools have seemed to completely disregardthe price drop that the ps3 had during the year. They are the worst, they are the biggest losers on system wars, both literally and figuratively. Congrats to the 360, looks like they will even widen the gap in 2012 as set to have a price drop and Halo 4, Kinect, Black Ops 2 madness will surely propel them to victory. Cows, JUST SHUT THE HECK UP ALREADY!!! You are jokes!!!!

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#255 Fizzman
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I left this thread because people started getting a little personal and zealous, I came back thinking it has settled down. Guess I was wrong, it's just sales guys, get over it. And 4 million more, whoohoo who cares? They're basicaly almost tied.

And no one is going out of business, only an idiot would think so. I'm leaving this thread again as things haven't changed.

ShadowMoses900

4 million is basically almost tied? You are the most delusional cow i have ever seen.

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#256 ForzaGearsFace
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I left this thread because people started getting a little personal and zealous, I came back thinking it has settled down. Guess I was wrong, it's just sales guys, get over it. And 4 million more, whoohoo who cares? They're basicaly almost tied.

And no one is going out of business, only an idiot would think so. I'm leaving this thread again as things haven't changed.

ShadowMoses900

backtracking at its best, now its just 4 million, sales dont matter, but all year NPD was responded with that the PS3 outsells the 360 WW.

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#257 ForzaGearsFace
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I left this thread because people started getting a little personal and zealous, I came back thinking it has settled down. Guess I was wrong, it's just sales guys, get over it. And 4 million more, whoohoo who cares? They're basicaly almost tied.

And no one is going out of business, only an idiot would think so. I'm leaving this thread again as things haven't changed.

Fizzman

4 million is basically almost tied? You are the most delusional cow i have ever seen.

honestly people ask me about why im so harsh towards cows, and this bubbling idiot is a prime example why.

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#258 ForzaGearsFace
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This late into the Gen, its a battle for the casuals. Kinect is running away with it. The PS3 can't compete with Kinect.Nonstop-Madness

either can the PS4, which is why we will never see a PS4, unless they figure something out to lure in casuals.

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#259 Nonstop-Madness
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]This late into the Gen, its a battle for the casuals. Kinect is running away with it. The PS3 can't compete with Kinect.ForzaGearsFace

either can the PS4, which is why we will never see a PS4, unless they figure something out to lure in casuals.

We don't know anything about the PS4. You don't have to worry about casuals until years into the generation. The first couple of years are all about the hardcore.
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If you ever wanna know why Cows are the worst this is a perfect thread to show why this statement is truth. You see cows who claimed all year long that the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide whenever the NPD numbers came out now changing tune to saying its selling on average better than the 360. You also see these cows quoting vgchartz lulz as truth when it is widely known in this forum that vgchartz can never be used. You also see these same cows saying wow the 360 only outsold the PS3 by 800 units yet these fools have seemed to completely disregardthe price drop that the ps3 had during the year. They are the worst, they are the biggest losers on system wars, both literally and figuratively. Congrats to the 360, looks like they will even widen the gap in 2012 as set to have a price drop and Halo 4, Kinect, Black Ops 2 madness will surely propel them to victory. Cows, JUST SHUT THE HECK UP ALREADY!!! You are jokes!!!!

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ooooh Umad big time.
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#261 Frostbite24
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[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

If you ever wanna know why Cows are the worst this is a perfect thread to show why this statement is truth. You see cows who claimed all year long that the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide whenever the NPD numbers came out now changing tune to saying its selling on average better than the 360. You also see these cows quoting vgchartz lulz as truth when it is widely known in this forum that vgchartz can never be used. You also see these same cows saying wow the 360 only outsold the PS3 by 800 units yet these fools have seemed to completely disregardthe price drop that the ps3 had during the year. They are the worst, they are the biggest losers on system wars, both literally and figuratively. Congrats to the 360, looks like they will even widen the gap in 2012 as set to have a price drop and Halo 4, Kinect, Black Ops 2 madness will surely propel them to victory. Cows, JUST SHUT THE HECK UP ALREADY!!! You are jokes!!!!

_Cadbury_
ooooh Umad big time.

+ 5 points for keen observation, -5 points for being exactly the same type of user.
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#262 _Cadbury_
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="_Cadbury_"][QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

If you ever wanna know why Cows are the worst this is a perfect thread to show why this statement is truth. You see cows who claimed all year long that the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide whenever the NPD numbers came out now changing tune to saying its selling on average better than the 360. You also see these cows quoting vgchartz lulz as truth when it is widely known in this forum that vgchartz can never be used. You also see these same cows saying wow the 360 only outsold the PS3 by 800 units yet these fools have seemed to completely disregardthe price drop that the ps3 had during the year. They are the worst, they are the biggest losers on system wars, both literally and figuratively. Congrats to the 360, looks like they will even widen the gap in 2012 as set to have a price drop and Halo 4, Kinect, Black Ops 2 madness will surely propel them to victory. Cows, JUST SHUT THE HECK UP ALREADY!!! You are jokes!!!!

ooooh Umad big time.

+ 5 points for keen observation, -5 points for being exactly the same type of user.

I make thread after thread and post after post trolling the forums and attacking a system and company I have nothing to do with? News to me.
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#263 phonemug
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:lol: Cows claimed the whole year PS3 was winning worldwide

What an embarrassing faction

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#264 Frostbite24
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="_Cadbury_"] ooooh Umad big time._Cadbury_
+ 5 points for keen observation, -5 points for being exactly the same type of user.

I make thread after thread and post after post trolling the forums and attacking a system and company I have nothing to do with? News to me.

Forza can't make threads anymore. -5 points for missed observation, +3 for defensive cuteness.
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#265 Frostbite24
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:lol: Cows claimed the whole year PS3 was winning worldwide

What an embarrassing faction

phonemug
For most of the year the PS3 was winning worldwide...-25 points for perpetual prattling, -5 additional points adjudicator's discretion.
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#266 _Cadbury_
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[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"][QUOTE="Frostbite24"] + 5 points for keen observation, -5 points for being exactly the same type of user.Frostbite24
I make thread after thread and post after post trolling the forums and attacking a system and company I have nothing to do with? News to me.

Forza can't make threads anymore. -5 points for missed observation, +3 for defensive cuteness.

That doesn't change the fact that he did make them and would if he could. Now you must think randomly allocating me points is cool or funny or something but its really not o.o.
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#267 ForzaGearsFace
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:lol: Cows claimed the whole year PS3 was winning worldwide

What an embarrassing faction

phonemug

SUCH A JOKE!!! lol

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#268 ForzaGearsFace
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[QUOTE="phonemug"]

:lol: Cows claimed the whole year PS3 was winning worldwide

What an embarrassing faction

Frostbite24

For most of the year the PS3 was winning worldwide...-25 points for perpetual prattling, -5 additional points adjudicator's discretion.

hahahahaha eat the crow, what a joke.

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#269 Frostbite24
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="_Cadbury_"] I make thread after thread and post after post trolling the forums and attacking a system and company I have nothing to do with? News to me._Cadbury_
Forza can't make threads anymore. -5 points for missed observation, +3 for defensive cuteness.

That doesn't change the fact that he did make them and would if he could. Now you must think randomly allocating me points is cool or funny or something but its really not o.o.

I was just noting that you often come off fanboyish in your posting and seem to be riled up easily by trolls such as forza. -5 points for defiance and downplaying the importance of point attribution.
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#270 PraetorianMan
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I left this thread because people started getting a little personal and zealous, I came back thinking it has settled down. Guess I was wrong, it's just sales guys, get over it. And 4 million more, whoohoo who cares? They're basicaly almost tied.

And no one is going out of business, only an idiot would think so. I'm leaving this thread again as things haven't changed.

Fizzman

4 million is basically almost tied? You are the most delusional cow i have ever seen.

Given how both have sold over 60 million, yeah that's pretty much tied, Especially given how the 360's recent growth is directly tied to the Kinect [and hence, the retarded lems here try to hype BS like an unannounced DBZ Kinect game]
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#271 super600  Moderator
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People are still arguing over a lead that mirrors the xbox's lead over the gamecube lastgen.

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#272 PraetorianMan
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People are still arguing over a lead that mirrors the xbox's lead over the gamecube lastgen.

super600
Even smaller than that, both of those systems barely broke 20 million. Both of these break 60 million and the difference is about the same.
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#273 Cali3350
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Sales dont matter, Revenue and Profit generated from those sales matter. And Sony is in big trouble there.

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#274 Frostbite24
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People are still arguing over a lead that mirrors the xbox's lead over the gamecube lastgen.

super600
Hey now, the quest for second place is serious business :P + 10 for logic and insight, +3 for cute avatar.
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#275 super600  Moderator
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[QUOTE="super600"]

People are still arguing over a lead that mirrors the xbox's lead over the gamecube lastgen.

PraetorianMan

Even smaller than that, both of those systems barely broke 20 million. Both of these break 60 million and the difference is about the same.

I just find it funny how fanboys are claiming ownage over a small sales lead.I think something like a10+ million sales lead would be better to argue about.

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#276 PraetorianMan
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Sales dont matter, Revenue and Profit generated from those sales matter. And Sony is in big trouble there.

Cali3350

As an entire corporation, yes. SCE as an independent entity? PROBABLY not as much. Over the past several years SCE has been profitable, and in all likelihood it was again this quarter. We can't know though because Sony [in their latest financial report] bundled SCE with its other WTF BS electronics divisions which constantly lose a$$loads of money.

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#277 Austindro
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[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"][QUOTE="Frostbite24"] Forza can't make threads anymore. -5 points for missed observation, +3 for defensive cuteness.Frostbite24
That doesn't change the fact that he did make them and would if he could. Now you must think randomly allocating me points is cool or funny or something but its really not o.o.

I was just noting that you often come off fanboyish in your posting and seem to be riled up easily by trolls such as forza. -5 points for defiance and downplaying the importance of point attribution.

Srsly? -20 points for pretentious relegating on a chimerical point system.

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#278 DireOwl
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Great news for the 360. It's a shame, but Sony is a weak company and won't advertise.

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#279 shinrabanshou
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[QUOTE="PraetorianMan"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]To all those saying the gaming division is turning a profit (which I see posted continuously on here) are you so sure? "The loss includes a $1.09 billion loss by the company's Consumer Products and Services division, of which PlayStation is a part." http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/115638-Sony-Takes-Massive-2-Billion-Third-Quarter-Loss What say you now?blue_hazy_basic
that division also includes their miserable fail TV, cellphone and laptop branches. Its actually rather likely that SCE is still running a profit and their other electronics completely blow it and then some.

Can you provide some proof? I see it quoted as fact all the time.

It's relatively well-established that the TV business is the biggest drain on their fortunes, while the game business has been profitable for a while, and they remained profitable at the new pricepoint. Presumably why the price drop was only $50.

Earnings call transcript:

"Despite an increase in market expenses for network services and impact of the price change of PS3 hardware, we maintain consistent profitability. PS3 hardware unit sales were ¥6.5 million, tying the March 2010 fiscal year for the highest Q3 sales."

The operating loss for the segment includes an 65 billion yen impairment loss from the sale of Sony's half of the LCD joint venture to Samsung - so far as I can tell, essentially the value of their equity in that venture was overstated by 65 billion yen, compared to what they actually realised from the sale of that equity.

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#280 spiderluck
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hahaha at all the cows...downplaying the worldwide lead....can you imagine the wild dancing in the streets, the jubilation.fist pounding and jovial bonhomie of the cows if the situation was reversed...thank god for justice
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#281 spiderluck
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give it another 2 years...lol
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#282 Frostbite24
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="_Cadbury_"] That doesn't change the fact that he did make them and would if he could. Now you must think randomly allocating me points is cool or funny or something but its really not o.o.Austindro

I was just noting that you often come off fanboyish in your posting and seem to be riled up easily by trolls such as forza. -5 points for defiance and downplaying the importance of point attribution.

Srsly? -20 points for pretentious relegating on a chimerical point system.

Sorry that it bothers you, I don't write the rules bud I just interpret them. -50 points for impersonating and slandering an official adjudicator.
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hahaha at all the cows...downplaying the worldwide lead....can you imagine the wild dancing in the streets, the jubilation.fist pounding and jovial bonhomie of the cows if the situation was reversed...thank god for justicespiderluck
Yeah I can. Imagine the humor if/when a $600 console that launched a year late with no quality exclusives, terrible multiplats, and under the direction of a miserably incompetant company like Sony outsells a console that launched a year ahead of time at $400 with awesomesauce exclusives like Gears, Halo, Forza.... and Kinect.

..Actually with that in mind, the fact that they are so close to each other is already funny. It's kind of embarrassing that the 360 is only ahead by 4 million, especially considering that its riding on the Kinect now.

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#285 spiderluck
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[QUOTE="PraetorianMan"][QUOTE="super600"]

People are still arguing over a lead that mirrors the xbox's lead over the gamecube lastgen.

super600

Even smaller than that, both of those systems barely broke 20 million. Both of these break 60 million and the difference is about the same.

I just find it funny how fanboys are claiming ownage over a small sales lead.I think something like a10+ million sales lead would be better to argue about.

stop it ...please.....the laughter is killing me
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hahaha at all the cows...downplaying the worldwide lead....can you imagine the wild dancing in the streets, the jubilation.fist pounding and jovial bonhomie of the cows if the situation was reversed...thank god for justicespiderluck

hahahaha at the lemming jumping in joy at a small sales lead.:lol:

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#287 super600  Moderator
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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="PraetorianMan"] Even smaller than that, both of those systems barely broke 20 million. Both of these break 60 million and the difference is about the same. spiderluck

I just find it funny how fanboys are claiming ownage over a small sales lead.I think something like a10+ million sales lead would be better to argue about.

stop it ...please.....the laughter is killing me

4 million is small dude.Even though the PS3 will never catch up to the 360 anything is possible still.

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#288 XschlistaX
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[QUOTE="phonemug"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Really enjoyed reading all the cow damage control. Now Sony is lying about how many PS3's they sold..............enjoy last place. I loved this gen from a SW perspective. Cows just bashing both the Wii and 360 and telling everyone it was some kind of super computer.

Poetic justice.

Cows brought it on themselves.

So true. Go back in memory when the 360 launched and Cows kept saying "Just Wait" that lasted for 3 years and they finally had a good year. But it was still "Just Wait". Now it's obvious that "Just Wait" means "Just Wait Forever" and they are in full DC.
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#290 spiderluck
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[QUOTE="spiderluck"]hahaha at all the cows...downplaying the worldwide lead....can you imagine the wild dancing in the streets, the jubilation.fist pounding and jovial bonhomie of the cows if the situation was reversed...thank god for justicePraetorianMan
Yeah I can. Imagine the humor if/when a $600 console that launched a year late with no quality exclusives, terrible multiplats, and under the direction of a miserably incompetant company like Sony outsells a console that launched a year ahead of time at $400 with awesomesauce exclusives like Gears, Halo, Forza.... and Kinect. ..Actually with that in mind, the fact that they are so close to each other is already funny.

if by funny you mean apoplectic.frenzied delirium from sony fanboys then...yeah..its hilarious
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#291 delta3074
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"Its unfortunate that advertising works and that moms and "casuals" (whatever that exactly means in this instance) but I assume its awful to provide them with games they might enjoy. That "dumb" fanbase. And people accuse hermits of eliteism, you consolites are ridiculous :lol:

spot on.
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#292 XschlistaX
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I left this thread because people started getting a little personal and zealous, I came back thinking it has settled down. Guess I was wrong, it's just sales guys, get over it. And 4 million more, whoohoo who cares? They're basicaly almost tied.

And no one is going out of business, only an idiot would think so. I'm leaving this thread again as things haven't changed.

Here's why it matters. PS brand went to super dominant crushing all others to last place. Doesn't matter if it's only 4 million or even if it was just 1...losing that much market share is huge. Remember the cows beating up on the Lems and Sheep back in their hayday? Well they are just now reaping what they have sown.
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#293 Austindro
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[QUOTE="Austindro"]

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"] I was just noting that you often come off fanboyish in your posting and seem to be riled up easily by trolls such as forza. -5 points for defiance and downplaying the importance of point attribution.Frostbite24

Srsly? -20 points for pretentious relegating on a chimerical point system.

Sorry that it bothers you, I don't write the rules bud I just interpret them. -50 points for impersonating and slandering an official adjudicator.

Interpreting rules and taking/giving points away are two different things.

Edit: lol and what rules?

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hahaha at all the cows...downplaying the worldwide lead....can you imagine the wild dancing in the streets, the jubilation.fist pounding and jovial bonhomie of the cows if the situation was reversed...thank god for justicespiderluck
Just wait. I'm sure they are prepping for 2016 when the latest estimates show they will pass up the 360 and secure 2nd place.
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#295 Frostbite24
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="Austindro"]

Srsly? -20 points for pretentious relegating on a chimerical point system.

Austindro

Sorry that it bothers you, I don't write the rules bud I just interpret them. -50 points for impersonating and slandering an official adjudicator.

Interpreting rules and taking/giving points away are two different things.

Edit: lol and what rules?

That information is way above your pay and posting grade. +8 points for deferring to my office.
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#296 Austindro
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[QUOTE="Austindro"]

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"] Sorry that it bothers you, I don't write the rules bud I just interpret them. -50 points for impersonating and slandering an official adjudicator.Frostbite24

Interpreting rules and taking/giving points away are two different things.

Edit: lol and what rules?

That information is way above your pay and posting grade. +8 points for deferring to my office.

8 points? Gtfo with that, you already took 50. How are you going to steal someone's car and give them back their air freshener?

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#297 Frostbite24
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="Austindro"]

Interpreting rules and taking/giving points away are two different things.

Edit: lol and what rules?

Austindro

That information is way above your pay and posting grade. +8 points for deferring to my office.

8 points? Gtfo with that, you already took 50. How are you going to steal someone's car and give them back their air freshener?

You're on the right track, don't blow it now. +8 additional points which ironically may be traded in for air fresheners...
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#298 babycakin
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feels good to be a sheep watching the fireworks go off in this thread

popcorn

*nom nom nom*

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feels good to be a sheep watching the fireworks go off in this thread

popcorn

*nom nom nom*

babycakin

Yea.. Not like you guys have any games to play.. :P

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#300 babycakin
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[QUOTE="babycakin"]

feels good to be a sheep watching the fireworks go off in this thread

popcorn

*nom nom nom*

OhSnapitz

Yea.. Not like you guys have any games to play.. :P

we got several good 1st party titles, few 3rd party gems and sh1t shovelware :lol:

we just gonna herd around and eat grass until Xenoblade & Wii U get here