**Official** 360 beats PS3 in 2011 SALES

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"][QUOTE="XschlistaX"] I won't disect it for you but please feel free to tell us what you meant by that? Were you not implying PS3 was winning in some sort by being more popular than the 360? Hence they still went from a dominant 1st place with PS2 to last place and fighting for 2nd place (although it requires twisted logic to get there)...therefore it's a pyric victory at best and absolute failure at worst.ForzaGearsFace

you are such a whining cow nowadays, guess your predictions of the PS3 taking over the 360 in 2011 didnt come to fruition, and to think the PS3 had a price drop and still lost lol, what a joke, kinda like cows.

[QUOTE="Carlton-Banks"]

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

You PS3 fans just don't get it do you?? The Generation is ending. Sony lost 70% market share and just posted a 2 billion dollar loss in their gaming division. On the flip side not only did Microsoft gain market share this generation, it outsold the PS3 last year and has increased the gap to 4 million now. And on another humiliating note, Xbox revenues in the last quarter were bigger than the Playstation family revenues. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642&page=4 The entire Playstation line………

Which company do you feel is going to be in better shape next year to launch a new console and have new IP's as well as mutliplates?? You think Sony can continue to create "new IP's" with its business bleeding like this?? You keep cheering Sony's exclusives...you need to go buy them instead to help them out.

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kbanna

PS3 has more high selling franchises, don't know what your'e getting at.You're just another typical 360 fanboy thinking on 360 games sell.PS3 exclusives that sold over 2 million all include Little Big Planet (4.8 mil) LBP2(2.5 mil) Killzone 2 (2.8 mil) KZ3(2.1 mil) MGS4(5.5 mil) GT5(8.0 mil) GT5P(4 mil) Uncharted (4.12 mil) Uncharted 2 (5.44 mil) Uncharted 3(3.5 mil to date) GOW3 (4.4 mil) Resistance (4 mil) Resistance 2 (2.2 mil) Motorstorm (3.7 mil) Ratchet and Clank TOD(2.34 mil) Infamous (2.1 mil) Heavy Rain(2 mil)

Top selling 360 exclusives2 mil and overinclude Halo 3(11.4 mil) Halo Reach (8.8 mil) Gears 2(6.1 mil) Halo ODST(6 mil) GeOW(5.9 mil) Gears 3(5.2 mil) Forza 3(5 mil) Fable 3 (4.6 mil) Fable 2(4 mil) Halo Wars(2.1 mil)

Hmm, way more variety and franchises in the Playstation front. Do more researc Lem before talkiing out of your ass.

Top 360

You know whats really funny about your post?? The fact that you actually think you made some type of point and told me off.....hallarious. Dude did you even read what I posted or did you get caught up in your own rehtoric about individual game sales??? You PS3 fans and your lists. Here is a sobering pill for you to swallow. Even with all the games you posted, and all the sales those games did, Sony still posted a 2 billion dollar loss last year, they still got outsold worldwide in 2011, the 360's gaming revenues still outsold the entire playstation family's gaming revenues last year, and the 360 still increased its lead to 4 million last year. I'm not sure whatresearch you are talking about, but my info is coming from Sony's own report released today and arguing about individual game sales has absolutly nothing to do with my previous post or anyone else's post for that matter. Perhaps its youwho needs to learn to"read" before you talk out of your ass. Clown

you can see why cows are the least respected faction here at SystemWars by the likes of my drakehalo mess.

ForzaGearsFace

Agreed. I can't wait for the day that Sony leaves the gaming division, in which the Sony drones are gonna have no choice BUT to depend on either Nintendo or Microsoft for future gaming, you know, the two companies that they hate the most.

It'd be hilarious.

[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="XschlistaX"] If you honestly think Sony going from a clear #1 to fighting to get out of last place is a victory...then it's a pyric victory at best and a absolute failure at worst.phonemug

but not with you

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

you can see why cows are the least respected faction here at SystemWars by the likes of my drakehalo mess.

garland51

Agreed. I can't wait for the day that Sony leaves the gaming division, in which the Sony drones are gonna have no choice BUT to depend on either Nintendo or Microsoft for future gaming, you know, the two companies that they hate the most.

It'd be hilarious.

nah, they can easily go to PC

Sales dont matter, Revenue and Profit generated from those sales matter. And Sony is in big trouble there.

Cali3350

The 360's revenue outsold the playstation family's entire revenue for the year. That is just sad

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

you can see why cows are the least respected faction here at SystemWars by the likes of my drakehalo mess.

garland51

Agreed. I can't wait for the day that Sony leaves the gaming division, in which the Sony drones are gonna have no choice BUT to depend on either Nintendo or Microsoft for future gaming, you know, the two companies that they hate the most.

It'd be hilarious.

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]

Sales dont matter, Revenue and Profit generated from those sales matter. And Sony is in big trouble there.

kbanna

The 360's revenue outsold the playstation family's entire revenue for the year. That is just sad

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

you can see why cows are the least respected faction here at SystemWars by the likes of my drakehalo mess.

SilverSterls

Agreed. I can't wait for the day that Sony leaves the gaming division, in which the Sony drones are gonna have no choice BUT to depend on either Nintendo or Microsoft for future gaming, you know, the two companies that they hate the most.

It'd be hilarious.

It's not Sony that I hate, it's their fanboys. They always act too cocky & arrogant & always think that Sony's invincible while always putting down other competitors.

[QUOTE="spiderluck"]hahaha at all the cows...downplaying the worldwide lead....can you imagine the wild dancing in the streets, the jubilation.fist pounding and jovial bonhomie of the cows if the situation was reversed...thank god for justicesuper600

hahahaha at the lemming jumping in joy at a small sales lead.:lol:

You PS3 fans are completely missing the point. the 360 has increased the gap by another 2 million last year. PS3 had the lead down to 2.1 in sept 2011. now the lead has grown to 4 million again. Its this fact thathas more relevance then anything else. The PS3 had a price drop last year....and the 360 lead INCREASED. That is what you need to take note of

Sorry but VGChartz has no creditablity in SW. I know PS3 outsold 360 globaly because no one in Japan buys the 360.

Sorry but VGChartz has no creditablity in SW. I know PS3 outsold 360 globaly because no one in Japan buys the 360.

HaloPimp978

Don't you ever get tired of posting with no responses?

[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

Sorry but VGChartz has no creditablity in SW. I know PS3 outsold 360 globaly because no one in Japan buys the 360.

waltefmoney

Don't you ever get tired of posting with no responses?

Leave her alone, this thread is pretty epic and there is no reason to hurt her feelings with comments like that. Just enjoy the damage control and move on. :)gigantuouse

I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings.

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

you can see why cows are the least respected faction here at SystemWars by the likes of my drakehalo mess.

garland51

Agreed. I can't wait for the day that Sony leaves the gaming division, in which the Sony drones are gonna have no choice BUT to depend on either Nintendo or Microsoft for future gaming, you know, the two companies that they hate the most.

It'd be hilarious.

@DrakeHeroGears posts:

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]The damage control in this thread is rather amusing. I really liked the ones saying 4 million is a small number and they are pretty much neck to neck in sales._Cadbury_

The truth does hurt, so here some truth for you. the 360 is starting to increase its lead...this late in the generation in a year that the ps3 had a price drop. the lead was down to 2.1 in sept 2011, http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/02/ps3-catching-up-with-xbox-360-shipments-worldwide/. It has now gone back up to 4 million http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642. That means the 360 is more popular than, and sells at a faster rate than the ps3. truth hurts...I know :lol: You PS3 fans should learn to shut up.

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

you can see why cows are the least respected faction here at SystemWars by the likes of my drakehalo mess.

PraetorianMan

Agreed. I can't wait for the day that Sony leaves the gaming division, in which the Sony drones are gonna have no choice BUT to depend on either Nintendo or Microsoft for future gaming, you know, the two companies that they hate the most.

It'd be hilarious.

Sorry but VGChartz has no creditablity in SW. I know PS3 outsold 360 globaly because no one in Japan buys the 360.

HaloPimp978

Read Sony's own financials http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642 which has them selling .8 behind the 360 WW last year. Now what excuses do you have left??? Funny isnt it?? Even with Japan and all the other countries you PS3 fans claim to own..you still got outsold. Accept it and move on.

[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

Sorry but VGChartz has no creditablity in SW. I know PS3 outsold 360 globaly because no one in Japan buys the 360.

kbanna

Read Sony's own financials http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642 which has them selling .8 behind the 360 WW last year. Now what excuses do you have left??? Funny isnt it?? Even with Japan and all the other countries you PS3 fans claim to own..you still got outsold. Accept it and move on.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="spiderluck"]hahaha at all the cows...downplaying the worldwide lead....can you imagine the wild dancing in the streets, the jubilation.fist pounding and jovial bonhomie of the cows if the situation was reversed...thank god for justicekbanna

hahahaha at the lemming jumping in joy at a small sales lead.:lol:

You PS3 fans are completely missing the point. the 360 has increased the gap by another 2 million last year. PS3 had the lead down to 2.1 in sept 2011. now the lead has grown to 4 million again. Its this fact thathas more relevance then anything else. The PS3 had a price drop last year....and the 360 lead INCREASED. That is what you need to take note of

@DrakeHeroGears posts:

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garland51

[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"] And we could also say that, "Do you honestly think M$ going from far ahead of the PS3 at the beginning of this gen - to fighting to keep its very tiny lead(by only the tinest of haires)...then its a pyric victory at best and an absolute failure at worst " What i would tell you, is that... Market share does not carry over from gen to gen. This generation had its own seperate race, and guess what, the 360 got crushed by the Wii...even in American - which is like the only place where the 360 sells strong. The PS3 started the race slow, but its not how you start, its how you finish. And as of right now, the 360 is ahead of the PS3 by only the tinest of haires. Its been a dog fight for second place. But regardless of sales. In the eyes of the gamers, its clear that the PS3 won, in what mattered most to a gamer. The PS3 arguably has the greatest exclusive line up of any past or present console PERIOD. In fact, the PS3 is arguably one of the greatest gaming consoles of all time. For sure its been one of the most bang for your buck consoles ever. The PS3 has won where it matters to a gamer, and in the eyes of the core gamer or informed gamer, the PS3 is simply better. But... Sure,if you're a M$ stock holder, you claimed some sort of little "victory." So good, who cares about the corporate world. Are you a M$ stock holder?XschlistaX

[QUOTE="garland51"]

@DrakeHeroGears posts:

Link.

Link 2.

CanYouDiglt

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]The damage control in this thread is rather amusing. I really liked the ones saying 4 million is a small number and they are pretty much neck to neck in sales.kbanna

The truth does hurt, so here some truth for you. the 360 is starting to increase its lead...this late in the generation in a year that the ps3 had a price drop. the lead was down to 2.1 in sept 2011, http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/02/ps3-catching-up-with-xbox-360-shipments-worldwide/. It has now gone back up to 4 million http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642. That means the 360 is more popular than, and sells at a faster rate than the ps3. truth hurts...I know :lol: You PS3 fans should learn to shut up.

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

hahahaha at the lemming jumping in joy at a small sales lead.:lol:

SilverSterls

You PS3 fans are completely missing the point. the 360 has increased the gap by another 2 million last year. PS3 had the lead down to 2.1 in sept 2011. now the lead has grown to 4 million again. Its this fact thathas more relevance then anything else. The PS3 had a price drop last year....and the 360 lead INCREASED. That is what you need to take note of

Sorry you feel that way Cheif. Last year I bought Halo Ann., Gears, Forza, MW3, Rage, and Batman. 3 exclusives and some multiplats. Not the best but "one of the worst lineups" ? Hardly. If you are a "gamer" you play games. And untill I have no choice but to buy 100% Kinect games I really dont see what you are complaining about.But to each his own I suppose. Ill tell you one thing, my wallet sure did not feel like it was one of the worst lineups last year. I wish it did.

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"] Please tell me you aren't trying to say otherwise. You realise that by the time the PS3 launched worldwide, the 360 had a 7.4 million lead in sales right? And that lead has now reduced to 3.8 million? Yes, that means the PS3 is more popular than, and sells at a faster rate than the 360. Truth hurts, I know._Cadbury_

The truth does hurt, so here some truth for you. the 360 is starting to increase its lead...this late in the generation in a year that the ps3 had a price drop. the lead was down to 2.1 in sept 2011, http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/02/ps3-catching-up-with-xbox-360-shipments-worldwide/. It has now gone back up to 4 million http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642. That means the 360 is more popular than, and sells at a faster rate than the ps3. truth hurts...I know :lol: You PS3 fans should learn to shut up.

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"] Please tell me you aren't trying to say otherwise. You realise that by the time the PS3 launched worldwide, the 360 had a 7.4 million lead in sales right? And that lead has now reduced to 3.8 million? Yes, that means the PS3 is more popular than, and sells at a faster rate than the 360. Truth hurts, I know._Cadbury_

The truth does hurt, so here some truth for you. the 360 is starting to increase its lead...this late in the generation in a year that the ps3 had a price drop. the lead was down to 2.1 in sept 2011, http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/02/ps3-catching-up-with-xbox-360-shipments-worldwide/. It has now gone back up to 4 million http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642. That means the 360 is more popular than, and sells at a faster rate than the ps3. truth hurts...I know :lol: You PS3 fans should learn to shut up.

So you are really going to lecture me about forecasting and sales models with a company whowas the market leader for 2 generations and has now lost 70% market share that has been trying catch its nearest competitor for 7 years????? This generation the xbox has gained huge market share, its games are selling better with a higher attach rate, Its revenue has outsold the revenue for the ENTIRE PLAYSTATION FAMILY last year, how is that for forcasting???? And you have the nerve to come here bragging that your still "catching up". You need to look at their business model and how its failing. Thats what you need to do.

[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

Sorry but VGChartz has no creditablity in SW. I know PS3 outsold 360 globaly because no one in Japan buys the 360.

kbanna

Read Sony's own financials http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642 which has them selling .8 behind the 360 WW last year. Now what excuses do you have left??? Funny isnt it?? Even with Japan and all the other countries you PS3 fans claim to own..you still got outsold. Accept it and move on.

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

Sorry but VGChartz has no creditablity in SW. I know PS3 outsold 360 globaly because no one in Japan buys the 360.

DrakesHaloGears

Read Sony's own financials http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642 which has them selling .8 behind the 360 WW last year. Now what excuses do you have left??? Funny isnt it?? Even with Japan and all the other countries you PS3 fans claim to own..you still got outsold. Accept it and move on.

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"][QUOTE="kbanna"]

The truth does hurt, so here some truth for you. the 360 is starting to increase its lead...this late in the generation in a year that the ps3 had a price drop. the lead was down to 2.1 in sept 2011, http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/02/ps3-catching-up-with-xbox-360-shipments-worldwide/. It has now gone back up to 4 million http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642. That means the 360 is more popular than, and sells at a faster rate than the ps3. truth hurts...I know :lol: You PS3 fans should learn to shut up.

So you are really going to lecture me about forecasting and sales models with a company whowas the market leader for 2 generations and has now lost 70% market share that has been trying catch its nearest competitor for 7 years????? This generation the xbox has gained huge market share, its games are selling better with a higher attach rate, Its revenue has outsold the revenue for the ENTIRE PLAYSTATION FAMILY last year, how is that for forcasting???? And you have the nerve to come here bragging that your still "catching up". You need to look at their business model and how its failing. Thats what you need to do.

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"]Seriously, Lemmings spend more time talking about how much the 360 sells on the internet, then actually playing a 360nervmeister

LMAO! Shouldn't that be the other way around with Cows?

[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="kbanna"]Read Sony's own finacle which has them selling .8 behind the 360 WW last year. Now what excuses do you have left??? Funny isnt it?? Even with Japan and all the other countries you PS3 fans claim to own..you still got outsold. Accept it and move on.Frostbite24

[QUOTE="phonemug"]

Link

Holy smokes :lol:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642

Sony reports 2 billion dollar loss.

Sony is DDDDDDDDDOOOOOOMMMMEED

I give them 9 months.

gamebreakerz__

I wish I could pop NPD sales in my disc trey and have a nice gaming session.

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"] The only reason the gap widened again is because of the unusually large amount of consoles MS sold to retailers last quarter. If you knew anything about forecasting, you'd know that the entire model doesn't change because of one unusual observation. Maybe if the 360 ever starts outselling the ps3 more often than not you can get excited about your precious sales again. But until that happens at this point in time, the PS3 generally sells at a faster rate than the 360._Cadbury_

So you are really going to lecture me about forecasting and sales models with a company whowas the market leader for 2 generations and has now lost 70% market share that has been trying catch its nearest competitor for 7 years????? This generation the xbox has gained huge market share, its games are selling better with a higher attach rate, Its revenue has outsold the revenue for the ENTIRE PLAYSTATION FAMILY last year, how is that for forcasting???? And you have the nerve to come here bragging that your still "catching up". You need to look at their business model and how its failing. Thats what you need to do.

Let me make it clearer for you. You come here bragging about how the PS3 is catching up. And I am pointing out how ridiculously pathetic that argument is for a 2 time market leader who has now lost 70% market share this generation. But if you feel like you have some type of solace in the fact that you are still "catching up" after 7 years, more power to you. I'm sure when next gen starts and the PS3 finally does catch up, all your patience and waiting will be vindicated......

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

Sorry but VGChartz has no creditablity in SW. I know PS3 outsold 360 globaly because no one in Japan buys the 360.

DrakesHaloGears

Read Sony's own financials http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642 which has them selling .8 behind the 360 WW last year. Now what excuses do you have left??? Funny isnt it?? Even with Japan and all the other countries you PS3 fans claim to own..you still got outsold. Accept it and move on.

No Sony fan cares about Sales? Did you happen to read the post above that I was responding to? And.....why are you so mad dude?

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"][QUOTE="kbanna"]

So you are really going to lecture me about forecasting and sales models with a company whowas the market leader for 2 generations and has now lost 70% market share that has been trying catch its nearest competitor for 7 years????? This generation the xbox has gained huge market share, its games are selling better with a higher attach rate, Its revenue has outsold the revenue for the ENTIRE PLAYSTATION FAMILY last year, how is that for forcasting???? And you have the nerve to come here bragging that your still "catching up". You need to look at their business model and how its failing. Thats what you need to do.

Let me make it clearer for you. You come here bragging about how the PS3 is catching up. And I am pointing out how ridiculously pathetic that argument is for a 2 time market leader who has now lost 70% market share this generation. But if you feel like you have some type of solace in the fact that you are still "catching up" after 7 years, more power to you. I'm sure when next gen starts and the PS3 finally does catch up, all your patience and waiting will be vindicated......

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="garland51"]

LMAO! Shouldn't that be the other way around with Cows?

DrakesHaloGears

LMAO so true

What's true? Yet, worldwide sales are a religion to Cows. See what I did there?

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="spiderluck"]hahaha at all the cows...downplaying the worldwide lead....can you imagine the wild dancing in the streets, the jubilation.fist pounding and jovial bonhomie of the cows if the situation was reversed...thank god for justicekbanna

hahahaha at the lemming jumping in joy at a small sales lead.:lol:

You PS3 fans are completely missing the point. the 360 has increased the gap by another 2 million last year. PS3 had the lead down to 2.1 in sept 2011. now the lead has grown to 4 million again. Its this fact thathas more relevance then anything else. The PS3 had a price drop last year....and the 360 lead INCREASED. That is what you need to take note of

Lol!I'm not a cow.:lol:

I have a wii and a 360, but I find this fight for second place in sales just sad.

Evacuate Cows... it's going under!

Evacuate Cows... it's going under!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-v5JX-yv74Kc/TqUZAvBRSjI/AAAAAAAABAY/MT_g-vMZ2iw/s400/Sony+Thailand+Flooded+322073.jpg

phonemug

Yay!For a fanbase declaring that a company is doomed over a console beating their console.:cool:

[QUOTE="phonemug"]

Evacuate Cows... it's going under!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-v5JX-yv74Kc/TqUZAvBRSjI/AAAAAAAABAY/MT_g-vMZ2iw/s400/Sony+Thailand+Flooded+322073.jpg

super600

Yay!For a fanbase declaring that a company is doomed over a console beating their console.:cool:

Winner!

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="phonemug"]

Evacuate Cows... it's going under!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-v5JX-yv74Kc/TqUZAvBRSjI/AAAAAAAABAY/MT_g-vMZ2iw/s400/Sony+Thailand+Flooded+322073.jpg

phonemug

Yay!For a fanbase declaring that a company is doomed over a console beating their console.:cool:

Winner!

Yay!For a delusional fanboy or fanbasemaking premature doom predictions on a struggling company.

It's not Sony that I hate, it's their fanboys. They always act too cocky & arrogant & always think that Sony's invincible while always putting down other competitors.

garland51

Yeah, while all the other fanboys are choir boys, self deprecating, humble, and completely reasonable about al things gaming... :roll:

Worst part about fanboys? They always think their side is the most reasonable.

Sales are the single most important thing to me as a gamer.

whiskeystrike