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#701 Hewkii
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lol the fact that u just had to defend yourself like that and talk about the girls u get and how they like ur ride proves that hes right about you

ApocalypseXIVV

actually, I think it shows he knows what was implied.

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#702 h575309
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

I know I will playing the superior version. Thats a given. I don't mind that the 360 is the lead platform, but that means nothing since the PC version will be the better version. I played the 360 version and it looked alright, but the controls are so clumsy that that alone forces me to get the PC version. I promise you though that when I get it up and running it will look ALOT cleaner than the 360 version. Textures will look better aliasing will look a TON better, and I will have 100% control over my aim whereas with the 360 controller I can expect to work ALOT harder to get my kills. BTW all that fanboyish pride of yours cracks me up. Just to put a little salt in your wound I have to ask...are you looking forward to playing Crysis on your 360? No? Aw sorry I forgot...360 isn't even capable of running it. :( BTW as fun as I am sure Bioshock will be it won't be GOTY. That title belongs to Mass Effect or Crysis...

ApocalypseXIVV

:| Uber-hermits are like the guy who buys a really big, expensive car. They're obviously compensating for something else. The differences between the versions isn't going to be big enough for me to care. Hence, the 360 version for me.

Wish it were that simple don't ya? I own a nice expensive car as well. I must be compensating for something right? I am an extremely outgoing guy. I get plenty of girls and it only gets better when I show them my ride. Hell a few of them are actually impressed by my computer and 42" LCD I use on it. I have no problem in the "size" department so what could I possibly be compensating for? I guess all that needs to be said is this...PC will ALWAYS have the better version of ANY high profile multiplatform and you can take that to the bank. I see no reason why I should play this game on my 360 when I know I can play it on my PC and have better graphics and also better gameplay due to the easier control scheme.

lol the fact that u just had to defend urself like that and talk about the girls u get and how they like ur ride proves that hes right about you

thats so true. i was thinking the same thing. :lol:

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#703 smokeydabear076
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well ign gave it the same score so yes it is the same game. im sure if the games were different enough they would have given different scores but they didnt. ive seen the pictures, the pc barely looks any better for an already stellar looking game. stop trying to turn this into a war over a game both platforms can enjoy.

h575309
Well this is system wars, don't much see the point in conversing peacefully. The PC version on a good rig has the upper hand, stop trying to get around this and say well we will all have fun. Sure we will, but I am just pointing out that the PC version is superior no matter how petty the difference may be to you, it is better whether you like it or not.
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#704 musicalmac  Moderator
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lol the fact that u just had to defend urself like that and talk about the girls u get and how they like ur ride proves that hes right about you

ApocalypseXIVV
There's a reason I didn't respond. He shot himself right in the foot. With a bazooka ;)
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#705 mikasa
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[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

Can someone clue me in on why this game is so great. I keep trying so hard to love it, but it just ain't there. I'll buy it when it releases, but after playing the demo I just don't get it.

Sure it's good, but not the uber fantastic shut everyone up game. maybe the demo is too short to capture that. As I mentioned earlier the atmosphere is terrific, sound fantastic, graphics top-notch, but gameplay is the most important and so far the Halo3 MP beta was more fun than the bioshock demo.

Hacking the sentries will get tiresome in time doing the same thing over and over again but with less time as the game progresses I presume.

I was hoping for a scary type game like condemned and I have no doubt they could have made a scarier game then condemned if they wanted to, but they didn't.

Someone please help me to see the fun in bioshock because I want to love it.

mwa

Anyone?

lol mikasa, you don't *have* to love this game...everyone's got their own opinions

But I WANT to love it, but just can't find the fun in it :-(

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#706 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

I know I will playing the superior version. Thats a given. I don't mind that the 360 is the lead platform, but that means nothing since the PC version will be the better version. I played the 360 version and it looked alright, but the controls are so clumsy that that alone forces me to get the PC version. I promise you though that when I get it up and running it will look ALOT cleaner than the 360 version. Textures will look better aliasing will look a TON better, and I will have 100% control over my aim whereas with the 360 controller I can expect to work ALOT harder to get my kills. BTW all that fanboyish pride of yours cracks me up. Just to put a little salt in your wound I have to ask...are you looking forward to playing Crysis on your 360? No? Aw sorry I forgot...360 isn't even capable of running it. :( BTW as fun as I am sure Bioshock will be it won't be GOTY. That title belongs to Mass Effect or Crysis...

ApocalypseXIVV

:| Uber-hermits are like the guy who buys a really big, expensive car. They're obviously compensating for something else. The differences between the versions isn't going to be big enough for me to care. Hence, the 360 version for me.

Wish it were that simple don't ya? I own a nice expensive car as well. I must be compensating for something right? I am an extremely outgoing guy. I get plenty of girls and it only gets better when I show them my ride. Hell a few of them are actually impressed by my computer and 42" LCD I use on it. I have no problem in the "size" department so what could I possibly be compensating for? I guess all that needs to be said is this...PC will ALWAYS have the better version of ANY high profile multiplatform and you can take that to the bank. I see no reason why I should play this game on my 360 when I know I can play it on my PC and have better graphics and also better gameplay due to the easier control scheme.

lol the fact that u just had to defend urself like that and talk about the girls u get and how they like ur ride proves that hes right about you

I had to clarify. And he is ALWAYS hounding me. I think he has a crush or something. I am pretty sure he trolls around looking for an opportunity to say somekind of crap to get me going.

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#707 h575309
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[QUOTE="h575309"]

well ign gave it the same score so yes it is the same game. im sure if the games were different enough they would have given different scores but they didnt. ive seen the pictures, the pc barely looks any better for an already stellar looking game. stop trying to turn this into a war over a game both platforms can enjoy.

smokeydabear076

Well this is system wars, don't much see the point in conversing peacefully. The PC version on a good rig has the upper hand, stop trying to get around this and say well we will all have fun. Sure we will, but I am just pointing out that the PC version is superior no matter how petty the difference may be to you, it is better whether you like it or not.

my point is we dont care. the 360 people buying this game dont care that the pc game looks a little bit better. and the keyword there is "good rig". most people dont own a pc powerful enough to run this game looking better than the 360 version. so trust me, the game looks amazing in HD on a big tv with a 360. thats great you can run it on ur great pc rig but honestly, we dont care. it just seems like your trying to annoy us with it now.

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#708 h575309
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anyway like i said before.... it says bioshock is available on gamestop.com and ebgames.com... is this just pre-emptive for tomorrow or what? are they having a midnight launch for this game?
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#710 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]Also...even though I could gives two craps, but Halo 3 for PC once it comes out will ALSO be better than 360. Graphics will look nicer and controls will be much nicer.h575309

yet i will have already been playing it for at least a year. most likely two. im done with Gears and pc gamers are getting it now so yea, if you want year old games thats great. but ill play them now thanks.

I don't want year old games...I'm JUST saying. I don't think they are good games thus why I don't care.

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#711 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"][QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

I know I will playing the superior version. Thats a given. I don't mind that the 360 is the lead platform, but that means nothing since the PC version will be the better version. I played the 360 version and it looked alright, but the controls are so clumsy that that alone forces me to get the PC version. I promise you though that when I get it up and running it will look ALOT cleaner than the 360 version. Textures will look better aliasing will look a TON better, and I will have 100% control over my aim whereas with the 360 controller I can expect to work ALOT harder to get my kills. BTW all that fanboyish pride of yours cracks me up. Just to put a little salt in your wound I have to ask...are you looking forward to playing Crysis on your 360? No? Aw sorry I forgot...360 isn't even capable of running it. :( BTW as fun as I am sure Bioshock will be it won't be GOTY. That title belongs to Mass Effect or Crysis...

h575309

:| Uber-hermits are like the guy who buys a really big, expensive car. They're obviously compensating for something else. The differences between the versions isn't going to be big enough for me to care. Hence, the 360 version for me.

Wish it were that simple don't ya? I own a nice expensive car as well. I must be compensating for something right? I am an extremely outgoing guy. I get plenty of girls and it only gets better when I show them my ride. Hell a few of them are actually impressed by my computer and 42" LCD I use on it. I have no problem in the "size" department so what could I possibly be compensating for? I guess all that needs to be said is this...PC will ALWAYS have the better version of ANY high profile multiplatform and you can take that to the bank. I see no reason why I should play this game on my 360 when I know I can play it on my PC and have better graphics and also better gameplay due to the easier control scheme.

lol the fact that u just had to defend urself like that and talk about the girls u get and how they like ur ride proves that hes right about you

thats so true. i was thinking the same thing. :lol:

You really need to go back and reread what he said to me and then how I replied.

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#712 musicalmac  Moderator
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I had to clarify. And he is ALWAYS hounding me. I think he has a crush or something. I am pretty sure he trolls around looking for an opportunity to say somekind of crap to get me going.

MadExponent
The very fact that came to mind for you speaks even MORE volumes than you've already let us on to. Regardless of platform, Bioshock is going to be a spectacular game. I chose the 360 version over the computer version. It's really not that hard to believe.
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#713 immortality20
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anyway like i said before.... it says bioshock is available on gamestop.com and ebgames.com... is this just pre-emptive for tomorrow or what? are they having a midnight launch for this game?h575309

I think it depends on your location. Phone and see. I seen some people say yes, some say no. I know there will be none here (only game ever is Halo that I know of).

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#714 h575309
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[QUOTE="h575309"]

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]Also...even though I could gives two craps, but Halo 3 for PC once it comes out will ALSO be better than 360. Graphics will look nicer and controls will be much nicer.MadExponent

yet i will have already been playing it for at least a year. most likely two. im done with Gears and pc gamers are getting it now so yea, if you want year old games thats great. but ill play them now thanks.

I don't want year old games...I'm JUST saying. I don't think they are good games thus why I don't care.

right. so halo 3 and Gears are crap but Crysis is gonna be goty right? come on man be realistic here. gears is a great game and halo 3 will be great too. i may not be able to play crysis bc i dont have a superior pc right now but i can at least admit when other platforms get good games that i wont be able to play. crysis looks great. ut3 looks great. there are great games on all systems this year.

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#715 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"]

lol the fact that u just had to defend urself like that and talk about the girls u get and how they like ur ride proves that hes right about you

musicalmac

There's a reason I didn't respond. He shot himself right in the foot. With a bazooka ;)

You took a shot at me that was COMPLETELY incorrect and "I" shot myself in the foot? Wow...show me how I did that?

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#716 h575309
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[QUOTE="h575309"]anyway like i said before.... it says bioshock is available on gamestop.com and ebgames.com... is this just pre-emptive for tomorrow or what? are they having a midnight launch for this game?immortality20

I think it depends on your location. Phone and see. I seen some people say yes, some say no. I know there will be none here (only game ever is Halo that I know of).

i mean theres no way i would go out for a midnight launch but if i could get it tonight after work it would be great.

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#717 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="h575309"]

well ign gave it the same score so yes it is the same game. im sure if the games were different enough they would have given different scores but they didnt. ive seen the pictures, the pc barely looks any better for an already stellar looking game. stop trying to turn this into a war over a game both platforms can enjoy.

h575309

Well this is system wars, don't much see the point in conversing peacefully. The PC version on a good rig has the upper hand, stop trying to get around this and say well we will all have fun. Sure we will, but I am just pointing out that the PC version is superior no matter how petty the difference may be to you, it is better whether you like it or not.

my point is we dont care. the 360 people buying this game dont care that the pc game looks a little bit better. and the keyword there is "good rig". most people dont own a pc powerful enough to run this game looking better than the 360 version. so trust me, the game looks amazing in HD on a big tv with a 360. thats great you can run it on ur great pc rig but honestly, we dont care. it just seems like your trying to annoy us with it now.

Don't act like you don't care. You wouldn't have responded to this thread if you didn't care.

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#718 jetthrovegas
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="h575309"]

well ign gave it the same score so yes it is the same game. im sure if the games were different enough they would have given different scores but they didnt. ive seen the pictures, the pc barely looks any better for an already stellar looking game. stop trying to turn this into a war over a game both platforms can enjoy.

MadExponent

Well this is system wars, don't much see the point in conversing peacefully. The PC version on a good rig has the upper hand, stop trying to get around this and say well we will all have fun. Sure we will, but I am just pointing out that the PC version is superior no matter how petty the difference may be to you, it is better whether you like it or not.

my point is we dont care. the 360 people buying this game dont care that the pc game looks a little bit better. and the keyword there is "good rig". most people dont own a pc powerful enough to run this game looking better than the 360 version. so trust me, the game looks amazing in HD on a big tv with a 360. thats great you can run it on ur great pc rig but honestly, we dont care. it just seems like your trying to annoy us with it now.

Don't act like you don't care. You wouldn't have responded to this thread if you didn't care.

This is the Official Bioshock Thread... not the "Brag about my badass rig that will make the game look slightly better" thread.

What kind of amphetamines are you on anyways?

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#719 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]

I had to clarify. And he is ALWAYS hounding me. I think he has a crush or something. I am pretty sure he trolls around looking for an opportunity to say somekind of crap to get me going.

musicalmac

The very fact that came to mind for you speaks even MORE volumes than you've already let us on to. Regardless of platform, Bioshock is going to be a spectacular game. I chose the 360 version over the computer version. It's really not that hard to believe.

Why do you always have to quote me and talk trash? You ALWAYS do. Why don't you just stop. You can't because obviously what I say pushes your buttons. You took that potshot on me and I replied to show you that you are wrong. You took the potshot on me because your own personal insecurities. You thought that uberhermits have to compensate for something like someone who drives a nice car. Well I am a successful person and I choose to have nice things. So sue me.

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#720 mikasa
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="h575309"]

well ign gave it the same score so yes it is the same game. im sure if the games were different enough they would have given different scores but they didnt. ive seen the pictures, the pc barely looks any better for an already stellar looking game. stop trying to turn this into a war over a game both platforms can enjoy.

MadExponent

Well this is system wars, don't much see the point in conversing peacefully. The PC version on a good rig has the upper hand, stop trying to get around this and say well we will all have fun. Sure we will, but I am just pointing out that the PC version is superior no matter how petty the difference may be to you, it is better whether you like it or not.

my point is we dont care. the 360 people buying this game dont care that the pc game looks a little bit better. and the keyword there is "good rig". most people dont own a pc powerful enough to run this game looking better than the 360 version. so trust me, the game looks amazing in HD on a big tv with a 360. thats great you can run it on ur great pc rig but honestly, we dont care. it just seems like your trying to annoy us with it now.

Don't act like you don't care. You wouldn't have responded to this thread if you didn't care.

Uh I don't care if the PC version is a bit better. Mainly it's better because of the mouse being able to switch weapons and do the stupid hacking game easier. But other than that it's pretty much the same. But tbh, it's best played on a huge TV/movie screen and sitting back on your sofa in a dark theater. If you have a PC hooked up like that and it can run the game at max settings go for it.For me I'd rather have it on the system that doesn't require a KBM to get the game started.

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I thought the demo was fantastic. It's not as scary as System Shock 2 (I'm comparing the first 30 minutes of gameplay of both), but it's still downright creepy. Reminds me of the psychological scares I give people at Spookers.

I was reading IGN's review, and I thought that for the most part it was a good review, except the closing comments. They went all fanboyish. They took Roger Ebert and Hideo Kojima's thoughts out of context. What they both believe is that video games can never reach the artistic level of film and literature -- they never saidgames couldn't be artistic.

" There is a structural reason for that: Video games by their nature require player choices, which is the opposite of the strategy of serious film and literature, which requires authorial control. "

"I am prepared to believe that video games can be elegant, subtle, sophisticated, challenging and visually wonderful. But I believe the nature of the medium prevents it from moving beyond craftsmanship to the stature of art. To my knowledge, no one in or out of the field has ever been able to cite a game worthy of comparison with the great dramatists, poets, filmmakers, novelists and composers. That a game can aspire to artistic importance as a visual experience, I accept. But for most gamers, video games represent a loss of those precious hours we have available to make ourselves more cultured, civilized and empathetic. "

I think Ebert is somewhat right. Personally, I think games can be artistic, but only to a certain extent. They're very much in the same league as those Goosebumps "Choose Your Own Scare" type books. They're just as fun, not as tightly woven.

In any case, I think Bioshock is going to own. And yes, I do think it's artistically wonderful.

FrozenLiquid

how are videogames not more art than movies? Everything in the game has to be created with hopefully fresh new creative innovative ideas, along with a great story driven game, they are basically interactive movies....some games truly are art but then u get wario ware or stuff like that or sports games that are more interactive simulations...but games like bioshock and hl2 should seriously be considered art

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#722 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="h575309"]

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]Also...even though I could gives two craps, but Halo 3 for PC once it comes out will ALSO be better than 360. Graphics will look nicer and controls will be much nicer.h575309

yet i will have already been playing it for at least a year. most likely two. im done with Gears and pc gamers are getting it now so yea, if you want year old games thats great. but ill play them now thanks.

I don't want year old games...I'm JUST saying. I don't think they are good games thus why I don't care.

right. so halo 3 and Gears are crap but Crysis is gonna be goty right? come on man be realistic here. gears is a great game and halo 3 will be great too. i may not be able to play crysis bc i dont have a superior pc right now but i can at least admit when other platforms get good games that i wont be able to play. crysis looks great. ut3 looks great. there are great games on all systems this year.

I did not say they were crap I said they are not good to me. The BIGGEST reason is because they are on console. I don't have as much fun playing games on my 360. I simply have it so in case a big good game comes out I can play it with my friends when they are over at my place.

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For me I'd rather have it on the system that doesn't require a KBM to get the game started.

mikasa

since it's a GFW game it fully supports the Xbox 360 controller.

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#724 musicalmac  Moderator
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I had a big long post. But I edited it all out. It was too harsh. My apologies.
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#725 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="h575309"]

well ign gave it the same score so yes it is the same game. im sure if the games were different enough they would have given different scores but they didnt. ive seen the pictures, the pc barely looks any better for an already stellar looking game. stop trying to turn this into a war over a game both platforms can enjoy.

mikasa

Well this is system wars, don't much see the point in conversing peacefully. The PC version on a good rig has the upper hand, stop trying to get around this and say well we will all have fun. Sure we will, but I am just pointing out that the PC version is superior no matter how petty the difference may be to you, it is better whether you like it or not.

my point is we dont care. the 360 people buying this game dont care that the pc game looks a little bit better. and the keyword there is "good rig". most people dont own a pc powerful enough to run this game looking better than the 360 version. so trust me, the game looks amazing in HD on a big tv with a 360. thats great you can run it on ur great pc rig but honestly, we dont care. it just seems like your trying to annoy us with it now.

Don't act like you don't care. You wouldn't have responded to this thread if you didn't care.

Uh I don't care if the PC version is a bit better. Mainly it's better because of the mouse being able to switch weapons and do the stupid hacking game easier. But other than that it's pretty much the same. But tbh, it's best played on a huge TV/movie screen and sitting back on your sofa in a dark theater. If you have a PC hooked up like that and it can run the game at max settings go for it.For me I'd rather have it on the system that doesn't require a KBM to get the game started.

Okie dokie...

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[QUOTE="mikasa"]

For me I'd rather have it on the system that doesn't require a KBM to get the game started.

Hewkii

since it's a GFW game it fully supports the Xbox 360 controller.

You can logon to your PC with your xbox controller? And launch the game with the controller? How do you do that?

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#727 h575309
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="h575309"]

well ign gave it the same score so yes it is the same game. im sure if the games were different enough they would have given different scores but they didnt. ive seen the pictures, the pc barely looks any better for an already stellar looking game. stop trying to turn this into a war over a game both platforms can enjoy.

MadExponent

Well this is system wars, don't much see the point in conversing peacefully. The PC version on a good rig has the upper hand, stop trying to get around this and say well we will all have fun. Sure we will, but I am just pointing out that the PC version is superior no matter how petty the difference may be to you, it is better whether you like it or not.

my point is we dont care. the 360 people buying this game dont care that the pc game looks a little bit better. and the keyword there is "good rig". most people dont own a pc powerful enough to run this game looking better than the 360 version. so trust me, the game looks amazing in HD on a big tv with a 360. thats great you can run it on ur great pc rig but honestly, we dont care. it just seems like your trying to annoy us with it now.

Don't act like you don't care. You wouldn't have responded to this thread if you didn't care.

I dont care that the game looks a little bit better on PC. I care that I have to read annoying flamebait trying to piss off 360 owners. We all know your godly PC version looks a little bit better. We can accept that. But beyond that, no one really cares because the gameplay is unchanged. I mean it was the same situation with Oblivion. Didnt care then because the game already looked incredible.

I really just wanna play this friggin game. Not argue about it.

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#728 h575309
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="h575309"]

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]Also...even though I could gives two craps, but Halo 3 for PC once it comes out will ALSO be better than 360. Graphics will look nicer and controls will be much nicer.MadExponent

yet i will have already been playing it for at least a year. most likely two. im done with Gears and pc gamers are getting it now so yea, if you want year old games thats great. but ill play them now thanks.

I don't want year old games...I'm JUST saying. I don't think they are good games thus why I don't care.

right. so halo 3 and Gears are crap but Crysis is gonna be goty right? come on man be realistic here. gears is a great game and halo 3 will be great too. i may not be able to play crysis bc i dont have a superior pc right now but i can at least admit when other platforms get good games that i wont be able to play. crysis looks great. ut3 looks great. there are great games on all systems this year.

I did not say they were crap I said they are not good to me. The BIGGEST reason is because they are on console. I don't have as much fun playing games on my 360. I simply have it so in case a big good game comes out I can play it with my friends when they are over at my place.

thats fine thats just a matter of opinion though. i agree playing fps is alot harder to get used to on a console and halo really is the only fps i like to play on a console. but again, it really just comes down to preference and the specfic game. for example, i cant even imagine playing CS on a console. it would probably be horrid. would never do it.

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#729 Hewkii
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You can logon to your PC with your xbox controller? And launch the game with the controller? How do you do that?

mikasa

Drivers, quite simply. you can do it with a Wiimote if you really wanted to. oh, and if you mean a lack of keyboard, there's this.

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#730 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]

Wish it were that simple don't ya? I own a nice expensive car as well. I must be compensating for something right? I am an extremely outgoing guy. I get plenty of girls and it only gets better when I show them my ride. Hell a few of them are actually impressed by my computer and 42" LCD I use on it. I have no problem in the "size" department so what could I possibly be compensating for? I guess all that needs to be said is this...PC will ALWAYS have the better version of ANY high profile multiplatform and you can take that to the bank. I see no reason why I should play this game on my 360 when I know I can play it on my PC and have better graphics and also better gameplay due to the easier control scheme.:

musicalmac

You took a shot at me that was COMPLETELY incorrect and "I" shot myself in the foot? Wow...show me how I did that?

MadExponent

Why do you always have to quote me and talk trash? You ALWAYS do. Why don't you just stop. You can't because obviously what I say pushes your buttons. You took that potshot on me and I replied to show you that you are wrong. You took the potshot on me because your own personal insecurities. You thought that uberhermits have to compensate for something like someone who drives a nice car. Well I am a successful person and I choose to have nice things. So sue me.

MadExponent

Who are you trying to convince, us? Or yourself? In any case, this is getting out of hand. I'm simply saying it's not stupid to choose the 360 over the PC version, but you fight it like it's your job. Picking a console version over a computer version of any game doesn't make that person an idiot. And I don't specifically try to hound you. It's just that you make it too easy.

Wow theres another potshot. And it IS stupid to get the 360 version of THIS particular game if you have a high end PC to run it on. There is NO argument for it PERIOD. It is a single player game that supports DX10 on PC. How can you be a logical person and think somehow that the 360 provides the better experience. Maybe you don't understand what kind of PC and home theater setup that I use. I cannot imagine the 360 version giving me a better experience after playing the 360 demo. More than anything it is the controls that ruins it.

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Wow theres another potshot. And it IS stupid to get the 360 version of THIS particular game if you have a high end PC to run it on. There is NO argument for it PERIOD. It is a single player game that supports DX10 on PC. How can you be a logical person and think somehow that the 360 provides the better experience. Maybe you don't understand what kind of PC and home theater setup that I use. I cannot imagine the 360 version giving me a better experience after playing the 360 demo. More than anything it is the controls that ruins it.

MadExponent
[QUOTE="musicalmac"]I had a big long post. But I edited it all out. It was too harsh. My apologies.

:| You're welcome.
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#732 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="h575309"]

well ign gave it the same score so yes it is the same game. im sure if the games were different enough they would have given different scores but they didnt. ive seen the pictures, the pc barely looks any better for an already stellar looking game. stop trying to turn this into a war over a game both platforms can enjoy.

h575309

Well this is system wars, don't much see the point in conversing peacefully. The PC version on a good rig has the upper hand, stop trying to get around this and say well we will all have fun. Sure we will, but I am just pointing out that the PC version is superior no matter how petty the difference may be to you, it is better whether you like it or not.

my point is we dont care. the 360 people buying this game dont care that the pc game looks a little bit better. and the keyword there is "good rig". most people dont own a pc powerful enough to run this game looking better than the 360 version. so trust me, the game looks amazing in HD on a big tv with a 360. thats great you can run it on ur great pc rig but honestly, we dont care. it just seems like your trying to annoy us with it now.

Don't act like you don't care. You wouldn't have responded to this thread if you didn't care.

I dont care that the game looks a little bit better on PC. I care that I have to read annoying flamebait trying to piss off 360 owners. We all know your godly PC version looks a little bit better. We can accept that. But beyond that, no one really cares because the gameplay is unchanged. I mean it was the same situation with Oblivion. Didnt care then because the game already looked incredible.

I really just wanna play this friggin game. Not argue about it.

I want to play the game too, but there are actually gameplay differences.

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Review Tonight. I say 9.5.
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#734 musicalmac  Moderator
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Review Tonight. I say 9.5.Riviera_Phantom
Sounds about right. Though, I still hope for the next 10. But without ANY mutli... is it plausable? I wonder how multi would have been with plasmids... Probably tough to balance.
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]

Wow theres another potshot. And it IS stupid to get the 360 version of THIS particular game if you have a high end PC to run it on. There is NO argument for it PERIOD. It is a single player game that supports DX10 on PC. How can you be a logical person and think somehow that the 360 provides the better experience. Maybe you don't understand what kind of PC and home theater setup that I use. I cannot imagine the 360 version giving me a better experience after playing the 360 demo. More than anything it is the controls that ruins it.

musicalmac

I had a big long post. But I edited it all out. It was too harsh. My apologies.musicalmac
:| You're welcome.

How the hell am I supposed to see where you edited your post if I am replying to your original. :|

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I think it will get a 9.6-9.7 on 360 and a 9.4-9.5 on PC. 360 doesn't have a single FPS that competes with Bioshock so it will score very high.
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#737 mikasa
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[QUOTE="mikasa"]

You can logon to your PC with your xbox controller? And launch the game with the controller? How do you do that?

Hewkii

Drivers, quite simply. you can do it with a Wiimote if you really wanted to. oh, and if you mean a lack of keyboard, there's this.

Huh? You can logon to your computer remotely with the 360 wireless controller? How do you do this?

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#738 musicalmac  Moderator
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I think it will get a 9.6-9.7 on 360 and a 9.4-9.5 on PC. 360 doesn't have a single FPS that competes with Bioshock so it will score very high.MadExponent
I can garuntee you that Bioshock will not score a 9.6, 9.7, or 9.4 here at GS.
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#739 h575309
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="h575309"]

I dont care that the game looks a little bit better on PC. I care that I have to read annoying flamebait trying to piss off 360 owners. We all know your godly PC version looks a little bit better. We can accept that. But beyond that, no one really cares because the gameplay is unchanged. I mean it was the same situation with Oblivion. Didnt care then because the game already looked incredible.

I really just wanna play this friggin game. Not argue about it.

MadExponent

I want to play the game too, but there are actually gameplay differences.

like the controls? thats a preference. and it obviously did not affect ign scores. you can say they are different all you want buy the bottomline is they are scoring the same. a good example is the new madden for 360 and ps3. they are the same game but obvious gameplay differences bc of hardware is hurting the ps3 scores. this is not the case for bioshock. basically, i understand ur point if you have a pc that can run it, theres no reason u should get the 360 version instead. my point is that the differences are minimal and for the most part come down to personal preference and convenience.

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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]I think it will get a 9.6-9.7 on 360 and a 9.4-9.5 on PC. 360 doesn't have a single FPS that competes with Bioshock so it will score very high.musicalmac
I can garuntee you that Bioshock will not score a 9.6, 9.7, or 9.4 here at GS.

seconded, i think it has a greater shot at 9.5 or 10 than any thing else 9.5 most likely but it deserves a 10

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#741 RickGotti
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RE: The Bioshock Review Thread.

Wow Casey, why even give users the ability to start threads of their own? Why don't you just start all the threads that you deem worthy of discussion & we'll all talk about what you want.

That thread is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

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#742 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="h575309"]

well ign gave it the same score so yes it is the same game. im sure if the games were different enough they would have given different scores but they didnt. ive seen the pictures, the pc barely looks any better for an already stellar looking game. stop trying to turn this into a war over a game both platforms can enjoy.

h575309

Well this is system wars, don't much see the point in conversing peacefully. The PC version on a good rig has the upper hand, stop trying to get around this and say well we will all have fun. Sure we will, but I am just pointing out that the PC version is superior no matter how petty the difference may be to you, it is better whether you like it or not.

my point is we dont care. the 360 people buying this game dont care that the pc game looks a little bit better. and the keyword there is "good rig". most people dont own a pc powerful enough to run this game looking better than the 360 version. so trust me, the game looks amazing in HD on a big tv with a 360. thats great you can run it on ur great pc rig but honestly, we dont care. it just seems like your trying to annoy us with it now.

You care to some extent, otherwise you would not even type this stuff up to me.;)
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#743 h575309
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="h575309"]

well ign gave it the same score so yes it is the same game. im sure if the games were different enough they would have given different scores but they didnt. ive seen the pictures, the pc barely looks any better for an already stellar looking game. stop trying to turn this into a war over a game both platforms can enjoy.

smokeydabear076

Well this is system wars, don't much see the point in conversing peacefully. The PC version on a good rig has the upper hand, stop trying to get around this and say well we will all have fun. Sure we will, but I am just pointing out that the PC version is superior no matter how petty the difference may be to you, it is better whether you like it or not.

my point is we dont care. the 360 people buying this game dont care that the pc game looks a little bit better. and the keyword there is "good rig". most people dont own a pc powerful enough to run this game looking better than the 360 version. so trust me, the game looks amazing in HD on a big tv with a 360. thats great you can run it on ur great pc rig but honestly, we dont care. it just seems like your trying to annoy us with it now.

You care to some extent, otherwise you would not even type this stuff up to me.;)

already explained this before in an earlier post.

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[QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="h575309"]

I dont care that the game looks a little bit better on PC. I care that I have to read annoying flamebait trying to piss off 360 owners. We all know your godly PC version looks a little bit better. We can accept that. But beyond that, no one really cares because the gameplay is unchanged. I mean it was the same situation with Oblivion. Didnt care then because the game already looked incredible.

I really just wanna play this friggin game. Not argue about it.

h575309

I want to play the game too, but there are actually gameplay differences.

like the controls? thats a preference. and it obviously did not affect ign scores. you can say they are different all you want buy the bottomline is they are scoring the same. a good example is the new madden for 360 and ps3. they are the same game but obvious gameplay differences bc of hardware is hurting the ps3 scores. this is not the case for bioshock. basically, i understand ur point if you have a pc that can run it, theres no reason u should get the 360 version instead. my point is that the differences are minimal and for the most part come down to personal preference and convenience.

You must not understand a little thing called standards. And the bottom line is not that they are scoring the same. The bottom line is that the IGN review states the PC version is stronger in aspects that the Xbox 360 version is not.
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#745 smokeydabear076
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already explained this before in an earlier post.

h575309
Saying you don't care a bunch of times just makes you look silly. Some people other then yourself might care. People like me who own both a Xbox 360 and a powerful gaming rig probably care.
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#746 D0013ER
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You must not understand a little thing called standards. And the bottom line is not that they are scoring the same. The bottom line is that the IGN review states the PC version is stronger in aspects that the Xbox 360 version is not.smokeydabear076

Congratu-fricken-lations, you'll be playing the hands-down better version of Bioshock. We're all super jealous and would give our lives to drink the bath water of someone who gets to play the superior version of this game.

Happy now? I don't really see how you constantly re-iterating how much more awesome your version will be is any better than everyone else constantly re-iterating how little they care...

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#747 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]You must not understand a little thing called standards. And the bottom line is not that they are scoring the same. The bottom line is that the IGN review states the PC version is stronger in aspects that the Xbox 360 version is not.D0013ER

Congratu-fricken-lations, you'll be playing the hands-down better version of Bioshock. We're all super jealous and would give our lives to drink the bath water of someone who gets to play the superior version of this game.

Happy now? I don't really see how you constantly re-iterating how much more awesome your version will be is any better than everyone else constantly re-iterating how little they care...

Oh I am extremely happy now.
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#748 h575309
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[QUOTE="h575309"]

already explained this before in an earlier post.

smokeydabear076

Saying you don't care a bunch of times just makes you look silly. Some people other then yourself might care. People like me who own both a Xbox 360 and a powerful gaming rig probably care.

if you read my earlier post, you would know i didnt just say i dont care a bunch of times. the reason i care is because i have to read it and your just trying to piss off all the 360 owners who are going to buy the game on 360 like the post above me.

oh and if the game was stronger in important aspects the scores would be different but they are not.

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#749 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="h575309"]

already explained this before in an earlier post.

h575309

Saying you don't care a bunch of times just makes you look silly. Some people other then yourself might care. People like me who own both a Xbox 360 and a powerful gaming rig probably care.

if you read my earlier post, you would know i didnt just say i dont care a bunch of times. the reason i care is because i have to read it and your just trying to piss off all the 360 owners who are going to buy the game on 360 like the post above me. im not even continuing to argue with you about this.

oh and if the game was stronger in important aspects the scores would be different but they are not.

You don't get annoyed by things you don't care about. I am not trying to piss anyone off all I am doing is stating a fact. Once again you demonstrate a lack of understanding for something called standards.
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#750 D0013ER
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You don't get annoyed by things you don't care about. I am not trying to piss anyone off all I am doing is stating a fact. Once again you demonstrate a lack of understanding for something called standards.smokeydabear076

So what do you want these guys to do? End every post they make in this thread with, "but the PC version is better"? Will that satisfy your desire to constantly remind everyone of your standards?