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#251 xboxps2cube
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lets hope a certain person who reviewd TP doesnt review Biochock. :lol:NuclearFreedom

it wont matter what gamespot says about the game its pretty much a done deal. bought

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#252 SergeantSnitch
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]Wow, this is insane. Anyone in this thread who doesn't own an Xbox 360 needs to buy one right now and get this game. I'm ordering the HDMI 360 Premium from Amazon as we speak. Thanks Irrational, you made my choice easier.Dreams-Visions
You won't be disappointed. I hope you have a surround-sound setup (or a makeshift one). Makes it substantially better, I think.



Thanks Dreams, I know I won't be disappointed. The 360 has the best lineup of games, period. And if it can get MGS4, that will be insane. I'm looking forward to possibly playing some games with you on Xbox Live if ya don't mind.
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#253 Zero_Fate_
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lets hope a certain person who reviewd TP doesnt review Biochock. :lol:NuclearFreedom

That certain person is definitely going to review Bioshock.

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#254 LegendofYaslint
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[QUOTE="NuclearFreedom"]lets hope a certain person who reviewd TP doesnt review Biochock. :lol:Zero_Fate_

That certain person is definitely going to review Bioshock.

Does it matter? TP is considered an amazing game by almost everyone. The only ppl stupid enough to bash TP are fanboys on system wars.

Jeff gave some really good reasons why he didn't score the game AAA, but did that stop the game from being one of the best games to ever come out? Not for the vast majority of the gaming community.

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#255 Zero_Fate_
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[QUOTE="Zero_Fate_"]

[QUOTE="NuclearFreedom"]lets hope a certain person who reviewd TP doesnt review Biochock. :lol:LegendofYaslint

That certain person is definitely going to review Bioshock.

Does it matter? TP is considered an amazing game by almost everyone. The only ppl stupid enough to bash TP are fanboys on system wars.

Jeff gave some really good reasons why he didn't score the game AAA, but did that stop the game from being one of the best games to ever come out? Not for the vast majority of the gaming community.

I was merely saying that Jeff is going to definitely review Bioshock. I didnt really state that it mattered or not.

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#256 LegendofYaslint
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9.5 at highest, my guess is 9.0. It will get downgraded for no online, as it should. Maybe a tad bit too short.kool-aids

Says the guy who thinks Killzone 2 will get a 9.5 based off of what?

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#257 LegendofYaslint
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[QUOTE="LegendofYaslint"][QUOTE="Zero_Fate_"]

[QUOTE="NuclearFreedom"]lets hope a certain person who reviewd TP doesnt review Biochock. :lol:Zero_Fate_

That certain person is definitely going to review Bioshock.

Does it matter? TP is considered an amazing game by almost everyone. The only ppl stupid enough to bash TP are fanboys on system wars.

Jeff gave some really good reasons why he didn't score the game AAA, but did that stop the game from being one of the best games to ever come out? Not for the vast majority of the gaming community.

I was merely saying that Jeff is going to definitely review Bioshock. I didnt really state that it mattered or not.

I know, I was just addressing the issue.

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#258 Cactuar_Scott
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Before I get suspended for 3 days for "ignoring" this thread, I honestly didn't see it up here, and I'm sorry.
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#259 XYZVector
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Bioshock tommrow 9.5+ and 10's it looks like we might have the kickoff to an excellent fall winter gaming season. Man I will trade some games for it tommrow. EXCELLENT!!! I beat both SystemShocks, and these were excellent games, glad to see that they return in fine form!!!
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#260 Zero_Fate_
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Bioshock tommrow 9.5+ and 10's it looks like we might have the kickoff to an excellent fall winter gaming season. Man I will trade some games for it tommrow. EXCELLENT!!! I beat both SystemShocks, and these were excellent games, glad to see that they return in fine form!!!XYZVector

Tommorrow? Jeff is still playing through the game (You can check out his gamertag if you like) but maybe the fact that he's still playing means that he's enjoying it right?

or it probably means that he's rushing through the game to get the review done as fast as possible.

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#261 SgtWhiskeyjack
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.. Andrew0987

:lol: Caption contest: Ok Grandad, time to go back to your home.

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#262 Immortal_Evil
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9.5 at highest, my guess is 9.0. It will get downgraded for no online, as it should. Maybe a tad bit too short.kool-aids

A game should not get downgraded for not having an online..its not a compulsory thing at all.
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#263 joeychew
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9.7 at ign...wonder how much will it get here. My guess is 9.5 max, but most probaly 9.0.
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#264 Amit_Raj
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9.5 is they score only in .5's and .0's .....otherwise 9.8

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#265 ganon42
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good chance this game is getting a 10 (heck ign gave it a 9.7). My prediction, 9.5. good chance of it being 9.0 though.
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#266 Cactuar_Scott
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I still say there's a good chance this game will topple Zelda: OoT from the top spot on Gamerankings. 8 game reviews in with an average score of 99% so far.
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#267 PhoebusFlows
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We will know tomorrow I think. Gamespot seems to be the only major site that hasn't reviewed it yet.
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#268 TrueReligion_
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I'm really anticipating the Gamespot review.
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#269 PatchMaster
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If this game doesn't get a 10 from Gamespot I don't think any game will for a very long time. It has pretty much already snagged GOTY. Right now it is averaging 99% on gamerankings, making it the highest rated game of all time. If Gamespot pulls a LoZ:TP again I thinka huge chunk of respect &credibility will be lost. Be smart Jeff.
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#270 Subcritical
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When Gamespot reviews the game, I hope they don't listen to people that are demanding a particular score. Everyone should collect as much information as possible, including reading the Gamespot review, and then formulate their own opinion of whether or not to purchase the game.

Jeff is a professional. He will judge the game based on his observations, predjudices, and expectations. Just because some here in SWthink a game should get a particular score, and threaten that if it doesn't achieve there will be chaos,are just being ridiculous.

It is a game. Take the review as a critique, not an endorsement. Read other reviews. Formulate opinion. Buy, or not buy the game. Play the demo,etc.

I wonder what it feels like to have to review a gameof such magnitude? I'm sure the pressure is on. Good Luck Jeff. Hope you have a teflon suit! :D

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#271 BrokenDreams13
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I seriously think Jeff will give it a 10. Not only because of the new rating system, but because the game is that good.
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#272 djord02
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9.7 at ign...wonder how much will it get here. My guess is 9.5 max, but most probaly 9.0.joeychew

This game deserves to score higher than Gears of War, reviews are saying it's that much better.

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#273 Teh_Stevz
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With the new scoring system in place, and current trends of scores for this game, it looks like Bioshock is looking to get a 10. After seeing the other reviews I don't see it getting any less than a 9.5...

Then again... There was always Zelda TP. :?

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#274 NickyJo
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With the new scoring system in place, and current trends of scores for this game, it looks like Bioshock is looking to get a 10. After seeing the other reviews I don't see it getting any less than a 9.5...

Then again... There was always Zelda TP. :?

Teh_Stevz

Jeff can be unpredictable, butthis isn't your every day sort of game, this is one of those rare games that only come along every ten years or so and blows everything else away, it ticks all the boxes, it does everything better than nearly every other game out there, Jeff willgive it 9.5 or 10, there is no other score that can be justified, how can you argue against near perfection

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#275 djord02
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Jeff isn't going to flop Bioshock, it's nothing like Twilight Princess. We've been playing Zelda games for the last 20 years. Bioshock is something completely new and different, and in so many ways, it sets a new bar for FPS shooters. As worldly as Jeff is, he would be the first to recognize that Bioshock is a SIGNIFICANT step forward in videogames. Not only does Bioshock have some of the most beautiful graphics ever seen on Xbox 360, it has some of the best graphics ever. Combine that with a deeply involved storyline, unparalleled atmosphere, moral choices, insanely cool weapons (i.e., plasmids and guns that can be upgraded however you want), you have the recipe for an absolute winner.

I vote 10/10, but we may see 9.5/10 due to this crazy new rating system. Without a doubt, though. Bioshock will be a contender for game of the year -- and we still have Virtua Fighter 5, Halo 3, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect and Call of Duty 4 on the way!

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#276 Mystery_Writer
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I don't think it deserves more than 9
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#277 rybe1025
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Forcing hyped games into a single thread absolutely destroys any and all intelligent discussion about those games, because the threads get flooded, and it is impossible to keep track of any of the individual posts.swamprat_basic
I agree with you. Plus I think this forum gets way to many stickies. Anytime people get excited about anything game related. BAM a sticky and we are not able to talk besides that one spot and these threads are always a garbled mess.
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#278 cakeorrdeath
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I don't think it deserves more than 9Mystery_Writer

You finished it?

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#279 rybe1025
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A question for all the lemmings. If Bioshock even scored 2.5 on Gamespot would you even really care considering all the other reviews Bioshock has got so far?
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#280 Mystery_Writer
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[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]I don't think it deserves more than 9cakeorrdeath

You finished it?

let me add a disclaimer

disclaimer: based on the demo

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#281 masterpinky2000
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Haven't seen many games that warrant more than a 9.0 based on a demo alone, haha. You're basically getting 10 minutes of gameplay w/ little story and only the most basic in-game abilities. Whoo hoo!
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#283 djord02
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Haven't seen many games that warrant more than a 9.0 based on a demo alone, haha. You're basically getting 10 minutes of gameplay w/ little story and only the most basic in-game abilities. Whoo hoo!masterpinky2000

Trust me, this game is going to score at least a 9.5. It has AAAA potential, and has already received AAAA numerous times:

1UP: Perfect 10

Gamepro: 5/5 Perfect

Gamespy 5 stars/5 Perfect

and so many more . ..

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#284 Caseytappy
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]I don't think it deserves more than 9Mystery_Writer

You finished it?

let me add a disclaimer

disclaimer: based on the demo

You mean just the Demo is already worth a 9 !

Wow .

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#285 deactivated-5b19c359a3789
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I heard that the original music score for this game is the sound of Bungie crying, confirm/deny?
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#286 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="LegendofYaslint"][QUOTE="Zero_Fate_"]

[QUOTE="NuclearFreedom"]lets hope a certain person who reviewd TP doesnt review Biochock. :lol:Zero_Fate_

That certain person is definitely going to review Bioshock.

Does it matter? TP is considered an amazing game by almost everyone. The only ppl stupid enough to bash TP are fanboys on system wars.

Jeff gave some really good reasons why he didn't score the game AAA, but did that stop the game from being one of the best games to ever come out? Not for the vast majority of the gaming community.

I was merely saying that Jeff is going to definitely review Bioshock. I didnt really state that it mattered or not.

I believe Jeff was the last guy to give out a 10 here.

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#287 h575309
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I heard that the original music score for this game is the sound of Bungie crying, confirm/deny?syztem

how is this game in competition with halo 3? they are completely different games....god

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#288 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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[QUOTE="syztem"]I heard that the original music score for this game is the sound of Bungie crying, confirm/deny?h575309

how is this game in competition with halo 3? they are completely different games....god

They aren't. Because Halo sucks.
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#289 Tatimus
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Sony Defense Force review out. http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/?p=83

They've swayed my opinion of the game.

JOKES - p.s. Why does that site even exist? Here's hoping gamerankings/metacritic dont accept that garbage.

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#290 Funkyhamster
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I can see Jeff giving Bioshock AAA (9.5)... it's completely new and innovative, in addition to all its other positive points. Both Resistance (was that him?) and TP weren't original enough to get the AAA, quality games that they were...
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#291 djord02
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Sony Defense Force review out. http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/?p=83

They've swayed my opinion of the game.

JOKES - p.s. Why does that site even exist? Here's hoping gamerankings/metacritic dont accept that garbage.

Tatimus

LOL, Sony Defense Force is a parody of Sony fanboyism -- no one could possibly take that site seriously.

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#292 Dreams-Visions
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I can see Jeff giving Bioshock AAA (9.5)... it's completely new and innovative, in addition to all its other positive points. Both Resistance (was that him?) and TP weren't original enough to get the AAA, quality games that they were...Funkyhamster
agree. 9.5 is the lowest score this game will get here. MINIMUM.

write it down.

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#293 deactivated-5b19c359a3789
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[QUOTE="syztem"]I heard that the original music score for this game is the sound of Bungie crying, confirm/deny?h575309

how is this game in competition with halo 3? they are completely different games....god



Because this game sets the bar and will ultimately make Halo 3, Metroid Prime 3, etc, look worse than they would have had they came out first?
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#294 djord02
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[QUOTE="h575309"]

[QUOTE="syztem"]I heard that the original music score for this game is the sound of Bungie crying, confirm/deny?syztem

how is this game in competition with halo 3? they are completely different games....god



Because this game sets the bar and will ultimately make Halo 3, Metroid Prime 3, etc, look worse than they would have had they came out first?

Bioshock definitely sets the bar for first person shooter storytelling, graphics and innovation. However, Halo 3 couldeasily be the best multiplayer game on the Xbox 360 (and perhaps for all consoles this year), and it's still awesome for being Halo.

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#295 DaysAirlines
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Sony Defense Force review out. http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/?p=83

They've swayed my opinion of the game.

JOKES - p.s. Why does that site even exist? Here's hoping gamerankings/metacritic dont accept that garbage.

Tatimus
It may be a joke but there might be some truth to this.
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#296 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="Tatimus"]

Sony Defense Force review out. http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/?p=83

They've swayed my opinion of the game.

JOKES - p.s. Why does that site even exist? Here's hoping gamerankings/metacritic dont accept that garbage.

DaysAirlines

It may be a joke but there might be some truth to this.

I think its just a joke

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#297 TheCrazed420
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[QUOTE="Tatimus"]

Sony Defense Force review out. http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/?p=83

They've swayed my opinion of the game.

JOKES - p.s. Why does that site even exist? Here's hoping gamerankings/metacritic dont accept that garbage.

DaysAirlines

It may be a joke but there might be some truth to this.

Oh come now, lets dissect it a little shall we?

After many months of anticipation I finally got my copy of Bioshock and played through it over the past few days. There are many things to like about Bioshock such as the graphics (not animation), parts of the story and the water effects. That's about where the good stuff ends.

First let me say how excited I was for the game after playing the demo on the 360. While the animation seemed stiff (What??? Come now, does anyone think the Big Daddy moved "stiff"?) and you could tell the 360 was being pushed too hard (the demo was one of the smoothest running games I've ever played, I'm sure most of us here would agree on that)it still looked like it had a lot of potential. So imagine my disappointment when I got the final version only to find none of the animation hitches, shooting glitches and AI was cleaned up. I also wonder how much better the graphics would've been had they not been compressed to fit on a DVD. Now I do not fault the developers for this, they only had so much system power to work with (pure fanboy-fuel comment there)so maybe this will all be addressed with the PS3 version when it comes out.

To conclude, let this game cook in the oven just a little bit longer and wait for the superior PS3 version. Cleaned up textures, animations, AI, extra weapons, Home space, standard HDD and Blu-ray will make this flawed game into a perfect gem.

So basically this guy docks half of the points on his review for a few supposed jerky animations and textures. Oooooookayyyyy.

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#298 iammason
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9.5 at TeamXbox. I wish my 360 didn't have to be such a b***h and crap out on me two weeks ago...

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#299 CaseyWegner
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If this game doesn't get a 10 from Gamespot I don't think any game will for a very long time. It has pretty much already snagged GOTY. Right now it is averaging 99% on gamerankings, making it the highest rated game of all time. If Gamespot pulls a LoZ:TP again I thinka huge chunk of respect &credibility will be lost. Be smart Jeff.PatchMaster

it's only august and the game hasn't even been reviewed yet. the majority of the games that most are guessing will be other goty contenders are still months away.

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#300 REVENGEotSITH
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We will know tomorrow I think. Gamespot seems to be the only major site that hasn't reviewed it yet.PhoebusFlows

Are you surprised by this??? Tell me the last time that GS reviewed a game prior to it being released, let alone prior to any other major site out there. I sure as heck can't. My guess is that the Bioshock review will be posted on Tuesday as a 9.5. Jeff will be too scared to score it a 10, even though it would have scored a 9.7 using the old system.