Official July 2007 NPD Sales

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

Nowhere near as big a bump in PS3 sales as I was expecting. The first month of the price drop is normally the one which feels the biggest impact. So I expect sales to be slightly down on this next month. And god help Sony if once the 60gb edition is sold out they don't reduce the 80gb.

What the hell happened to the Wii? It didn't even have any major releases.

eastside49er

What happened with the Wii is that Nintendo got more systems out. The only problem the Wii is facing right now is providing enough supply, but otherwise, the system is virtually selling out everywhere.

tis a crazy little machine. I honestly think Nintendo could not release any more games till 2008 and still sell out.

Which is really sad, but I guess times are changing. People care more about fad gadgets than games. Makes hardcore gamers cry. :(

People haven't changed. Nintendo has just managed to attract a new set of people. The old gamers are still there too so why is it sad for the industry to get bigger?

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="eastside49er"]How do you figure? MS quarter report for end of June this year showed that they had shipped 11.6 million WW. From July through September it was estimated MS would hit 13 million shipped WW. For Q4 this year it is estimated they will hit 6 million shipped. If they hit their numbers, they will get to 19 million by years end. 13 + 6 = 19 million.

I'd say either way it is great for MS because they are on pace to break original XBOX lifetime sales in half the time.

eastside49er

Well, before counting those 13 million + 6 million, MS has to show that they actually have shipped that much. At the end of June, they originally had their projections at 15 mil, then they revised them to 12 mil, and then they couldn't even meet that goal shipping only 11.6 million. So we'll see if they can reach the 13 million shipped first before saying they'll ship another 6 million for Q4.

Really, I'll be extremely surprised if they ship that many this holiday season. I just don't think the 360 will be able to sell that many. We'll have a better idea though next month when Halo 3 comes out. I'm just skeptical of the 360 when it comes to sales.

They missed their mark by 400K. That is nothing and sorry to give you a lesson in business 101, but companies revise numbers all of the time either higher or lower. Hell MS was only expecting to have6 million XBL users by end of June and they surpassed that by1 million. The original 15 million mark for end of June is over a year old,some of youjust keep bringing it up like it means anything now. It doesn't.

Not that I'm harping on the channel stuffing that MS contributed to, but in business 101, that's not a very good strategy since it shows a weakness for the long term and that their product really isn't selling as well as it should be.

MS came out and announced having shipped 10.4 mil at the end of 2006. From Jan to June, they shipped an additional 1.2 mil only. That's 6 months where they absolutely couldn't increase the sales. Even in its strongest market, the 360 hasn't sold too well.

Actually, thinking about it, 11.4 mil to 13 mil shipped by the end of Sept? That just sounds like the effect of Halo. What else are they going to sell to be able to ship an additional 6 million? Sounds almost impossible. MS should just revise their shipments down cause it really seems unrealistic that they'll reach it.

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]

well with the ps3 outselling 360 here in europe and japan its only a matter of time for america

Also WHAT the Wii outsold the DS

Tnasty11

America loves the 360! We don't need no Japanese movie Player with no games.

i guess you are one of those people who travel from north America to go to Canada right?:lol:

NINTENDO return of the KING :twisted:

Isn't it more sad that the xbox 360 is only winning by only that much, and its been out for over more than one year than the PS3. seriously only winning by a few thousands or so, and starting a year earlier, thats pretty sad for the x360. I don't see how xbox 360 fans can be happy about them having almsot lost to the PS3 if u think of how many the x 360's sold in the amoutn of time the PS3 has been out.. Nicely done Wii, go MP3 =)

Edit: i actually don't know details regarding how much the x360 actually sold in the life span of the PS3/Wii, so i might b wrong about all of that lol...

[QUOTE="-cnc-"]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=183381

Top 10 SKU's for July
360 NCAA FOOTBALL 08 ELECTRONIC ARTS 1 397k
PS2 GUITAR HERO ENCORE: ROCKS THE 80S ACTIVISION (CORP) 2 339k
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA 3 278k
PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 08 ELECTRONIC ARTS 4 236k
WII MARIO PARTY 8 NINTENDO OF AMERICA 5 177k
PS3 NCAA FOOTBALL 08 ELECTRONIC ARTS 6 156k
NDS POKEMON DIAMOND VERSION NINTENDO OF AMERICA 7 144k
PS2 TRANSFORMERS: THE GAME ACTIVISION (CORP) 8 143k
PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR ACTIVISION (CORP) 9 138k
360 GUITAR HERO 2 W/ GUITAR ACTIVISION (CORP) 10 108k


July Hardware Figures
Wii 425 k
Nintendo DS 405 k
PlayStation 2 222k
PlayStation Portable 214k
Xbox 360 170k
PlayStation 3 159k
Game Boy Advance 87k

joeblak

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:lol: :lol:

Ownage approved!! That ownage is almost on par with the Cow Damage Control Forza2 car.

What a great day this will be. Cows owned yet again.

Isn't it more sad that the xbox 360 is only winning by only that much, and its been out for over more than one year than the PS3. seriously only winning by a few thousands or so, and starting a year earlier, thats pretty sad for the x360. I don't see how xbox 360 fans can be happy about them having almsot lost to the PS3 if u think of how many the x 360's sold in the amoutn of time the PS3 has been out.. Asian_Country

Not at all, especiallywhen you consider how muchthe PS2 dominated last gen.

The Xbox360 is doing a fantastic job at eating away at Sony's marketshare this gen.Only cows would deny that.;)

American's are genious's for seeing through the Flopstation 3 and it's bag of empty promises... Now, onto the wii....

No way I'm reading this whole thread. Wii > 360 WW sales confirmed?Jandurin

officially no figures have been released but by everyone's calculations based on sales charts that is correct.

The Wii sells like crack, honestly it's now a fight for second place between Cows+Lemmings. Well, only in sales.

I thought the PS3 would have beaten the 360 because of the price drop, Sony needs to start doing something if they don't want the already massive gap between them and everyone else to get even larger. Although someone said the PS3 outsold the 360 WW, is this true?

Worldwide Sales Estimates as of July 2007 (NeoGAF)

If the PS3 still beat out the Xbox 360 on the month of it's price drop:lol: Sony needs to abandon all hope.

AND thats not even talking about how all 3 Xbox 360's got a price cut this month, plus HDMI. While Sony removes the EE from that overpriced POS:lol:

The Wii sells like crack, honestly it's now a fight for second place between Cows+Lemmings. Well, only in sales.

I thought the PS3 would have beaten the 360 because of the price drop, Sony needs to start doing something if they don't want the already massive gap between them and everyone else to get even larger. Although someone said the PS3 outsold the 360 WW, is this true?

inertk

Sony fanboys claim the PS3 is outselling the 360 in Europe, but the only proof they have of that is VGchartz the same site that claimed the PS3 outsold 360 in NA ;)

Wowzers. We're through, what 2/3 of the year? Reality pwns potential predictions and analysts again.Jandurin

no-one would have predicted it. Be honest, did you honestly think the Wii could would outsell the DS in America this month? i know i didn't

[QUOTE="inertk"]

The Wii sells like crack, honestly it's now a fight for second place between Cows+Lemmings. Well, only in sales.

I thought the PS3 would have beaten the 360 because of the price drop, Sony needs to start doing something if they don't want the already massive gap between them and everyone else to get even larger. Although someone said the PS3 outsold the 360 WW, is this true?

Yellow_Rose

Sony fanboys claim the PS3 is outselling the 360 in Europe, but the only proof they have of that is VGchartz the same site that claimed the PS3 outsold 360 in NA ;)

Damn Rose, you've been on point all day.

[QUOTE="inertk"]

The Wii sells like crack, honestly it's now a fight for second place between Cows+Lemmings. Well, only in sales.

I thought the PS3 would have beaten the 360 because of the price drop, Sony needs to start doing something if they don't want the already massive gap between them and everyone else to get even larger. Although someone said the PS3 outsold the 360 WW, is this true?

Yellow_Rose

Sony fanboys claim the PS3 is outselling the 360 in Europe, but the only proof they have of that is VGchartz the same site that claimed the PS3 outsold 360 in NA ;)

Although it doesn't seem to be too unbelieveable considering the gap between the two in this month's NPD isn't wide at all, and even the PS3 will without a doubt outsell the 360 in Japan throughout the month.

See, Cows, the price cut did help the PS3.It helped the PS3 finally outsell the GBA. Good job, Cows.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="inertk"]

The Wii sells like crack, honestly it's now a fight for second place between Cows+Lemmings. Well, only in sales.

I thought the PS3 would have beaten the 360 because of the price drop, Sony needs to start doing something if they don't want the already massive gap between them and everyone else to get even larger. Although someone said the PS3 outsold the 360 WW, is this true?

inertk

Sony fanboys claim the PS3 is outselling the 360 in Europe, but the only proof they have of that is VGchartz the same site that claimed the PS3 outsold 360 in NA ;)

Although it doesn't seem to be too unbelieveable considering the gap between the two in this month's NPD isn't wide at all, and even the PS3 will without a doubt outsell the 360 in Japan throughout the month.

Claiming the PS3 outsold the x360 in Japan is like claiming the sky is blue: Everyone knows it.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Wowzers. We're through, what 2/3 of the year? Reality pwns potential predictions and analysts again.bulletmath

no-one would have predicted it. Be honest, did you honestly think the Wii could would outsell the DS in America this month? i know i didn't

I mean, it's not like the DS dropped that drastically, the Wii picked up 100k in sales.

Madness.

[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="inertk"]

The Wii sells like crack, honestly it's now a fight for second place between Cows+Lemmings. Well, only in sales.

I thought the PS3 would have beaten the 360 because of the price drop, Sony needs to start doing something if they don't want the already massive gap between them and everyone else to get even larger. Although someone said the PS3 outsold the 360 WW, is this true?

LosDaddie

Sony fanboys claim the PS3 is outselling the 360 in Europe, but the only proof they have of that is VGchartz the same site that claimed the PS3 outsold 360 in NA ;)

Although it doesn't seem to be too unbelieveable considering the gap between the two in this month's NPD isn't wide at all, and even the PS3 will without a doubt outsell the 360 in Japan throughout the month.

Claiming the PS3 outsold the x360 in Japan is like claiming the sky is blue: Everyone knows it.

So I can't use that as reasoning behind the PS3 outselling the 360 worldwide?

So I can't use that as reasoning behind the PS3 outselling the 360 worldwide? inertk

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Claiming the PS3 outsold the x360 in Japan is like claiming the sky is blue: Everyone knows it.

inertk

So I can't use that as reasoning behind the PS3 outselling the 360 worldwide?

Not really.

The USA and Europe are, by far, the two largest video game markets. Japan is 3rd.

[QUOTE="bulletmath"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Wowzers. We're through, what 2/3 of the year? Reality pwns potential predictions and analysts again.Jandurin

no-one would have predicted it. Be honest, did you honestly think the Wii could would outsell the DS in America this month? i know i didn't

I mean, it's not like the DS dropped that drastically, the Wii picked up 100k in sales.

Madness.

I guess they were able to make 100k more....I would love to see what the number would have been if they could make enough

[QUOTE="inertk"]So I can't use that as reasoning behind the PS3 outselling the 360 worldwide? Jandurin

Eh, didn't it outsell it by 11k?

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="inertk"]So I can't use that as reasoning behind the PS3 outselling the 360 worldwide? inertk

Eh, didn't it outsell it by 11k?

ell no. Not in July. Not without any sort of game to push sales.

I mean, it's not like the DS dropped that drastically, the Wii picked up 100k in sales.

Madness.

Jandurin

everyone was wrong this gen. No-one (not even sheep) expected the Wii to win or the DS to kill off the PSP in a matter of years. Hell people thought the PS3 would dominate and it's struggling to match the gamecube

same goes for this months sales. Everyone was expecting 300+ for the Wii trailing behind the DS by quite a margin. It just goes to show how much we know

US NPD - July 2007 (July 8 - August 4)
360 - 170k
PS3 - 159k

Japan Media Create - July 2007 (July 9 - August 5)
PS3 - 78,798
360 - 12,169

[QUOTE="inertk"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="inertk"]So I can't use that as reasoning behind the PS3 outselling the 360 worldwide? Jandurin

Eh, didn't it outsell it by 11k?

No I mean.. You said it outsells the 360 by around 40k which is roughly what the 360 outsold the PS3 by in the US.

Didn't the 360 outsell the PS3 by 11k this month not 40? O: Hmm, nevermind I'm too tired at the moment all these numbers aren't helping.

You're right. I was too busy looking at Wii > DS to notice just how close PS3 and 360 actually were.

US NPD - July 2007 (July 8 - August 4)
360 - 170k
PS3 - 159k

Japan Media Create - July 2007 (July 9 - August 5)
PS3 - 78,798
360 - 12,169

-cnc-

In that case, It's entirely possible that the PS3 outsold the 360 last month worldwide.

You're right. I was too busy looking at Wii > DS to notice just how close PS3 and 360 actually were.

[QUOTE="-cnc-"]

US NPD - July 2007 (July 8 - August 4)
360 - 170k
PS3 - 159k

Japan Media Create - July 2007 (July 9 - August 5)
PS3 - 78,798
360 - 12,169

Jandurin

In that case, It's entirely possible that the PS3 outsold the 360 last month worldwide.

Agreed. I guess we need the Euro numbers for final confirmation? and what's the standard deviation here?

This was PS3's shot to beat the 360 for a month. Now, 360 will pull away again with its own price cuts and the huge avalanche of games that started with Madden and continues with Bioshock.

As for Wii,Nintendo better make some more of those things. My wife and kids have decided that this is the best thing since peaunut butter so I have to get my hands on one by Christmas or else...

1. Wow Wii finally outsells the DS.

2. PSP still holding strong. So much for it being dead eh?

3. PS3 finally closer to the XBox 360 and way past that GBA nonsense.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="inertk"]

The Wii sells like crack, honestly it's now a fight for second place between Cows+Lemmings. Well, only in sales.

I thought the PS3 would have beaten the 360 because of the price drop, Sony needs to start doing something if they don't want the already massive gap between them and everyone else to get even larger. Although someone said the PS3 outsold the 360 WW, is this true?

Cyberfairy

Sony fanboys claim the PS3 is outselling the 360 in Europe, but the only proof they have of that is VGchartz the same site that claimed the PS3 outsold 360 in NA ;)

Although it doesn't seem to be too unbelieveable considering the gap between the two in this month's NPD isn't wide at all, and even the PS3 will without a doubt outsell the 360 in Japan throughout the month.

Claiming the PS3 outsold the x360 in Japan is like claiming the sky is blue: Everyone knows it.

lol nice damage control.

Is that all you have to contribute? :lol: :lol:

US NPD - July 2007 (July 8 - August 4)
360 - 170k
PS3 - 159k

Japan Media Create - July 2007 (July 9 - August 5)
PS3 - 78,798
360 - 12,169

-cnc-

price drop in the US and hot shots golf in japan can do that, but I still cant believe that the PS3 didnt spike more than it did in the US. I thought it would at least outsell the 360 in the US this month.

3. PS3 finally closer to the XBox 360 and way past that GBA nonsense.

Bread_or_Decide

It was a long, bloody battle. But the PS3 has finally showed the GBA what's what!:P

You're right. I was too busy looking at Wii > DS to notice just how close PS3 and 360 actually were.

[QUOTE="-cnc-"]

US NPD - July 2007 (July 8 - August 4)
360 - 170k
PS3 - 159k

Japan Media Create - July 2007 (July 9 - August 5)
PS3 - 78,798
360 - 12,169

Jandurin

In that case, It's entirely possible that the PS3 outsold the 360 last month worldwide.

Probably did.

The only issue with that is for games that don't have universal appeal, (e.g FPS and say Madden) publishers will see sales in some regions as pretty mich irrelevant.

Where it does help though is those Eastern franchises that are also popular over here. (e.g. MGS and FF).