sales matter now? :roll:
-Renegade
sales always matter to me no matter who's winning.
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-Renegade
You've always cared about sales. Stop owning yourself. Oh and don't make me find that Spain Sales BS either.
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[QUOTE="DementedDragon"]Let's see, last month two games from two huge franchises for the respective systems were released (Halo and Metroid.) In NA, Halo 3 sold 3.3 mil copies and i'm guessing it had a huge influence on the number of systems sold (527K.) I can also assume Metroid had heavy influence on those 500+K systems sold for nintendo; great sales for both. Nothing major was released for the PS3, and the recent price drop wasn't in effect, so of course it's numbers are low.
I'm amazed by how many posters seem so surprised by this.
XanderZane
Wait a minute. Weren't you one of the people who said everyone who wants Halo 3 already owns a XBox 360? :roll: Well the PS3 will have their price drop and get Ratchet and Clank & Uncharted in October, so let's see if the PS3 breaks 500,000 units for the month of October.
People are surprised because cows kept claiming that Halo 3 wasn't going to move Xbox 360's. I guess they were wrong about that, huh?
If I said that (which I don't believe I did) then my mistake, since it's clear the game is a system seller.
And 'cows' are fanboys, why take what they (or any other fanboys here) say seriously?
same reason ppl are still buying ps2s its cheaper then its younger brother.[QUOTE="munsoned"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Why the hell are people still buying a GBA...?PhoebusFlows
How much is a GBA? Why would they buy that system when for a few more you can have a DS Lite? The screen on the GBA is way too dark
The screen isn't dark on the newer ones. Some people buy them for young kids, smaller, cheaper and simpler/cheaper games.
Ack! That sucks that even with over a month on the market, Metroid Prime 3 has sold under 400k. How is it that the game sells 219k within four days in August, but sells only 167k over the span of an ENTIRE MONTH in September? I mean, it's great that Wii Play is selling so much, but I think we all know why people buy it...
On a different note, would someone mind clearing up for me how Phantom Hourglass sold 200,000+ in September considering it didn't come out until October 1st? Was there an early launch or something?
Kudos to Halo 3, btw; that's what $10 Million spent on advertising gets you. That series gets a lot of flak for being so hyped, but it deserves it. I mean, come on, they PAY for it. I have to wonder, if the Halo 3 commercials were people playing on a big screen while delayed at an airport, do you think it would have been as effective? Hmmm... probably not...
[QUOTE="-Renegade"]sales matter now? :roll:
Blackbond
sales always matter to me no matter who's winning.
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-Renegade
You've always cared about sales. Stop owning yourself. Oh and don't make me find that Spain Sales BS either.
I brought that up because two months ago it was "all about the games" now that 360 has the sales sales all of a sudden matter again.
Ack! That sucks that even with over a month on the market, Metroid Prime 3 has sold under 400k. How is it that the game sells 219k within four days in August, but sells only 167k over the span of an ENTIRE MONTH in September? I mean, it's great that Wii Play is selling so much, but I think we all know why people buy it...
On a different note, would someone mind clearing up for me how Phantom Hourglass sold 200,000+ in September considering it didn't come out until October 1st? Was there an early launch or something?
Kudos to Halo 3, btw; that's what $10 Million spent on advertising gets you. That series gets a lot of flak for being so hyped, but it deserves it. I mean, come on, they PAY for it. I have to wonder, if the Halo 3 commercials were people playing on a big screen while delayed at an airport, do you think it would have been as effective? Hmmm... probably not...
luzer7072
Was a 5 week month that ended Oct 5th I believe.
Games always sell a bunch at first then quickly taper off.
And for those who don't know, WiiPlay is a $10 crappy mini game, but it sells because it's $10 bundled with a remote. They shouldn't even list it there, or at least divide it by 5 or 6 when comparing it to the 50 and 60 dollar games.
[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]sales matter now? :roll:
-Renegade
sales always matter to me no matter who's winning.
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-Renegade
You've always cared about sales. Stop owning yourself. Oh and don't make me find that Spain Sales BS either.
I brought that up because two months ago it was "all about the games" now that 360 has the sales sales all of a sudden matter again.
But the 360 has always been outselling the ps3, so what's the point?
Why hide behind PCs and the Wii to make yourself feel better?
Don't you love Sony, can't you stand behind them off their own merits? Somehow I don't think that your love is real.
[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]sales matter now? :roll:
-Renegade
sales always matter to me no matter who's winning.
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-Renegade
You've always cared about sales. Stop owning yourself. Oh and don't make me find that Spain Sales BS either.
I brought that up because two months ago it was "all about the games" now that 360 has the sales sales all of a sudden matter again.
Saying sales matter again implies that Lemmings claimed sales mattered before in which they still do now. Come on man don't you have anything to say like Spain is winning it for the PS3 or something? Bottom line is you always preach sales in favor of Sony and you just got served.
Oh and its about sales and games. Halo 3 sales and 360 sales. Lemmings are always bragging about software sales man.
Ack! That sucks that even with over a month on the market, Metroid Prime 3 has sold under 400k. How is it that the game sells 219k within four days in August, but sells only 167k over the span of an ENTIRE MONTH in September?
luzer7072
It was only released in the USA. THAT is why the numbers are so "low".
Did Ps3 just get outsold 5 to 1 by the 360, Hilarious, bu bu but the price drop and heavenly sword.Cubs360
bu bu the 360 just released the biggest game it has to offer. Sorry dude, 360 sales can only go in a downward trend from here. In fact, by 09' I wouldn't be suprised if Microsoft had to make a new console cause 360 lifespan is done. Let's hope Mass Effect is good. It might be the last great title for x-box...well NG2 too i suppose. I'm not saying PS3 will catch up, just saying trend is going down in the coming months...way down.
[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]Also, I noticed that a lot more people are in the NPD thread this time around. I wonder why ;)JandurinYou know Lemmings... if there's one... Because cows said Halo wouldn't sell consoles. So, it's a retaliatory sort of presence.
Retaliation? PS3 has been beat every month since launch, if anything the cows were trying to retaliate from that by stateming misinformation about Halo 3 and 360:)
..the bad cows that is:) I realize not all cows suffer from the hoof and mouth disease. Some are pure grade A beef.
[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]I doubt it considering the 80gb just got a price drop today.
-Renegade
But who the hell is going to buy it when they can just wait another week for the 40gb in Nov?
It ain't rocket surgery. ;)
PS3 60gb Slashed To 479$ And Is Sold Out At Futureshop
Just so you know they are also sold out of the 360 elite :lol:http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10087206&catid=23363
[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]I doubt it considering the 80gb just got a price drop today.
Eltroz
But who the hell is going to buy it when they can just wait another week for the 40gb in Nov?
It ain't rocket surgery. ;)
PS3 60gb Slashed To 479$ And Is Sold Out At Futureshop
Just so you know they are also sold out of the 360 elite :lol:http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10087206&catid=23363
Owned.
COME ON!
Only an extra 3.5 million and the House of Mario would have moved 1 million console units last month .... sooo close ...
daqua_99
Thousand right?;)
But it easily cleared that once you add GBA and GC anyway.
Xbox 360 outsold ps3 5-1 :| i thought ps3 and 360 were close with ps3 outselling 360 in some placesmingo123
well in Japan PS3 outsells X360 easily.
in Europe its closer- sometimes X360 outsells PS3- sometimes its the other way round. Halo3 has helped X360 tho- but Sony have countered by a new cheap PS3 SKU which boosted sales 178%.
[QUOTE="mingo123"]Xbox 360 outsold ps3 5-1 :| i thought ps3 and 360 were close with ps3 outselling 360 in some placesCwlHeddwyn
well in Japan PS3 outsells X360 easily.
in Europe its closer- sometimes X360 outsells PS3- sometimes its the other way round. Halo3 has helped X360 tho- but Sony have countered by a new cheap PS3 SKU which boosted sales 178%.
The 360 sold 400k more then the PS3 in the USA. The difference between PS3 and 360 in Japan will not come close to 400k. Also 360 sold around 40k more then PS3 in Canada. Japan will not be enough to help PS3.So how does it feel to be on the top, lemmings? :P
Eponique
you know what? At the moment im gonna have to say that with all this pro 360 stuff going on...im feeling rather lemmingish...so ill tell you it feels rather good to be on top, nintendo will probably take back the margin soon, and honestly i say more power to them, they were in the @##%s last gen, they took a risk with the WII and DSit paid off.
good on them, NINTENDO deserve the success that they get, and anyone on there boat should be proud that they have done so much for the videogame industry, saved itin the 80s, brought new audeinces into the industry. good on them for being the fathers of video games, AND not being cocky about there success......(wips away a tear)
if i remember correctly sales difference in Japan between PS3 & X360 is about 12k this monthor something like that- X360 is selling badly- but the PS3 isnt doing that good itself.
like i said about EU- it swings back & forth- but the X360 still maintains its headstart.
in America you are right- the sales difference is so huge that if anything the userbase difference is actually widening.
so to conclude- if PS3 wants to beat X360 their gonna have to start outselling X360 month by month in most regions particularly USA just to close the gap.
[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]sales matter now? :roll:
Blackbond
sales always matter to me no matter who's winning.
LINK
-Renegade
You've always cared about sales. Stop owning yourself. Oh and don't make me find that Spain Sales BS either.
I brought that up because two months ago it was "all about the games" now that 360 has the sales sales all of a sudden matter again.
Saying sales matter again implies that Lemmings claimed sales mattered before in which they still do now. Come on man don't you have anything to say like Spain is winning it for the PS3 or something? Bottom line is you always preach sales in favor of Sony and you just got served.
Oh and its about sales and games. Halo 3 sales and 360 sales. Lemmings are always bragging about software sales man.
GOOOO!!!! BLACKBOND!!!!!!!!!!!
ownage of the day! seriously renegade, just stop, everytime you say something you just get owed, i mean i know your probably used to it by now with the PS3 and all, but come on everyone gets sick of failure once and a while
So 3.5 million halo 3's sold and only half a million 360's.That's a shame that most of halo lovers already had a 360.You can attribute around 300k of 360's sold to halo 3 cuz 200k is what 360 normally sells.
Sorry lems this is not what you call a mega system seller.The game itself is a super duper seller but just like the previous halo's,it aint winning the war for MS unfortunately.
Xbox 360 outsold ps3 5-1 :| i thought ps3 and 360 were close with ps3 outselling 360 in some placesmingo123
Only in Japan where the sales aren't even close to off setting anything. Hell even the Wii is selling like crap over there now. It seems like Japan has gotten away from buying consoles and are now considered a handheld region.
The 360 continues to outsell the PS3 every where else and by hundreds of thousands of units.
[QUOTE="mingo123"]Xbox 360 outsold ps3 5-1 :| i thought ps3 and 360 were close with ps3 outselling 360 in some placesRonnieLottinSF
Only in Japan where the sales aren't even close to off setting anything. Hell even the Wii is selling like crap over there now. It seems like Japan has gotten away from buying consoles and are now considered a handheld region.
The 360 continues to outsell the PS3 every where else and by hundreds of thousands of units.
Even the DS is selling like crap. It fell from its high 160,000 a week to new lows of 70,000 a week. It's just a slow time in Japan. They will jump back up in November, and then comes the holidays in December.
So 3.5 million halo 3's sold and only half a million 360's.That's a shame that most of halo lovers already had a 360.You can attribute around 300k of 360's sold to halo 3 cuz 200k is what 360 normally sells.
Sorry lems this is not what you call a mega system seller.The game itself is a super duper seller but just like the previous halo's,it aint winning the war for MS unfortunately.
Thinker_145
Yes because doubling the sales from the previous month in NA and tripling the sales WW doesn't = system seller, LOL!!! :lol:
Any way, the 360 is still outselling the Wii in NA and has been for about 5 weeks now. The PS3 isn't even in the equation considering it is so far behind. It would be crazy if the 360 outsells the DS again in NA for October. No doubt it will outsell the Wii and PS3 again.
[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="mingo123"]Xbox 360 outsold ps3 5-1 :| i thought ps3 and 360 were close with ps3 outselling 360 in some placesEponique
Only in Japan where the sales aren't even close to off setting anything. Hell even the Wii is selling like crap over there now. It seems like Japan has gotten away from buying consoles and are now considered a handheld region.
The 360 continues to outsell the PS3 every where else and by hundreds of thousands of units.
Even the DS is selling like crap. It fell from its high 160,000 a week to new lows of 70,000 a week. It's just a slow time in Japan. They will jump back up in November, and then comes the holidays in December.
I don't consider that selling like crap. I consider selling like crap when one handheld outsells the entire console lineup for the region. The DS for the last 2 months has pretty much been outselling the Wii, PS3, 360, PS2 and GCN combined week to week. Consoles = dead in Japan and have been for a while.
[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="mingo123"]Xbox 360 outsold ps3 5-1 :| i thought ps3 and 360 were close with ps3 outselling 360 in some placesRonnieLottinSF
Only in Japan where the sales aren't even close to off setting anything. Hell even the Wii is selling like crap over there now. It seems like Japan has gotten away from buying consoles and are now considered a handheld region.
The 360 continues to outsell the PS3 every where else and by hundreds of thousands of units.
Even the DS is selling like crap. It fell from its high 160,000 a week to new lows of 70,000 a week. It's just a slow time in Japan. They will jump back up in November, and then comes the holidays in December.
I don't consider that selling like crap. I consider selling like crap when one handheld outsells the entire console lineup for the region. The DS for the last 2 months has pretty much been outselling the Wii, PS3, 360, PS2 and GCN combined week to week. Consoles = dead in Japan and have been for a while.
The usual Japan week is like this:
DS- 160,000
Wii-70,000
PSP - 30,000
PS3 -15,000
PS2 - 10,000
360 - 3,000
GBA - 70
GCN - 20
Now it's like:
DS- 80,000
PSP- 70,000 (Slim)
Wii- 20,000
PS2- 10,000
PS3- 10,000
360- 1,500
Seriously, it's just a slow period. Most Japanese school-children, are studying and don't have time for videogames. At around November/December, they'll all go back up again.
[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]same reason ppl are still buying ps2s its cheaper then its younger brother.[QUOTE="munsoned"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Why the hell are people still buying a GBA...?kryloc
How much is a GBA? Why would they buy that system when for a few more you can have a DS Lite? The screen on the GBA is way too dark
The screen isn't dark on the newer ones. Some people buy them for young kids, smaller, cheaper and simpler/cheaper games.
I'm sure the GBC game compatability has nothing to do with it.Note that I actually believe that has everything to do with it.
Will the 360 keep it up ?ma7moud93
So far, yes. The 360 has continued to outsell the Wii in NA for the entire month of October week to week. The PS3 of course continues to bring up the rear, battling it out with the GBA.
[QUOTE="ma7moud93"]Will the 360 keep it up ?RonnieLottinSF
So far, yes. The 360 has continued to outsell the Wii in NA for the entire month of October week to week. The PS3 of course continues to bring up the rear, battling it out with the GBA.
Really? that's impressive. What's your source.
If that's true then the 360 will likely lead all through Xmas (largely due to Wii stock issues)
[QUOTE="kryloc"][QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]same reason ppl are still buying ps2s its cheaper then its younger brother.[QUOTE="munsoned"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Why the hell are people still buying a GBA...?Jandurin
How much is a GBA? Why would they buy that system when for a few more you can have a DS Lite? The screen on the GBA is way too dark
The screen isn't dark on the newer ones. Some people buy them for young kids, smaller, cheaper and simpler/cheaper games.
I'm sure the GBC game compatability has nothing to do with it.Note that I actually believe that has everything to do with it.
But the GBA Micro looks so awesome.
But the GBA Micro looks so awesome.EponiqueProhibitively small. I had a chance to get one free, and I passed it up due to its smallness. I would just lose it.
3.3 million for halo 3 is nothing short of phenomanalsamusarmada
simply stunning sales
considering as well that 2) sales is 280k sales or so. 3 million more sold then any other game that month.
good on the 360 just hope they can keep it up over the xmas period and beyond
[QUOTE="-Renegade"]sales matter now? :roll:
Blackbond
sales always matter to me no matter who's winning.
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-Renegade
You've always cared about sales. Stop owning yourself. Oh and don't make me find that Spain Sales BS either.
By god sir, you make sherlock holmes look like nancy drew!3.3 million for halo 3 is nothing short of phenomanalsamusarmadaNow if they just release a new Halo every 6 months they're set :)
[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="ma7moud93"]Will the 360 keep it up ?cakeorrdeath
So far, yes. The 360 has continued to outsell the Wii in NA for the entire month of October week to week. The PS3 of course continues to bring up the rear, battling it out with the GBA.
Really? that's impressive. What's your source.
If that's true then the 360 will likely lead all through Xmas (largely due to Wii stock issues)
VGchartz.
[QUOTE="samusarmada"]3.3 million for halo 3 is nothing short of phenomanalbonethug1213Now if they just release a new Halo every 6 months they're set :)
Halo Wars is coming out early 2008 and in 2009 the 360 will have Gears of War 2. Two more system selling games for the 360. :)
Seriously, it's just a slow period. Most Japanese school-children, are studying and don't have time for videogames. At around November/December, they'll all go back up again.
Eponique
while many there indeed celebrate x-mas. it's the lunar new year that is the biggest holiday of the year in most asian countries. that's usually in late jan and early feb. that's were most give money and presents to eachother and go on vacation.
Now if they just release a new Halo every 6 months they're set :)[QUOTE="bonethug1213"][QUOTE="samusarmada"]3.3 million for halo 3 is nothing short of phenomanalRonnieLottinSF
Halo Wars is coming out early 2008 and in 2009 the 360 will have Gears of War 2. Two more system selling games for the 360. :)
I dont see Halo Wars being a system seller. I think Fable 2 will sell consoles since its the first one on the 360, same with banjo.[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]Now if they just release a new Halo every 6 months they're set :)[QUOTE="bonethug1213"][QUOTE="samusarmada"]3.3 million for halo 3 is nothing short of phenomanalbonethug1213
Halo Wars is coming out early 2008 and in 2009 the 360 will have Gears of War 2. Two more system selling games for the 360. :)
I dont see Halo Wars being a system seller. I think Fable 2 will sell consoles since its the first one on the 360, same with banjo.um anything with Halo in it will sell. Maybe not at a Halo 3 clip, but it will be a system seller.
Informational nuggets:
According to the world-wide authority in entertainment reviews, Metacritic, Xbox 360 has 80 titles with a Metacritic review score of 80 or higher compared to just 31 for PS3 and 11 for Wii.
Since November, third party partners have seen their titles hit the top ten 27 times for Xbox 360, compared to 2 for PS3 and 1 for Wii.
The $130 "Halo 3: Legendary Edition" alone sold twice as many units as the top title for PS3 "Heavenly Sword" (SCE); the helmet is mightier than the sword.
Rounding out the top titles for Xbox 360, "Skate" (EA) came in at #6. The Xbox 360 version of the innovative titles outsold the PS3 version 6:1.
Proving that Xbox 360 is the new home for sports gamers, "Madden NFL '08" (EA) on Xbox 360 was again the leading next gen platform with 173,000 units sold, compared to the PS3 at 62,000 and Wii at 58,000. To date, "Madden NFL '08" has sold 1.1 million units on Xbox 360, 87 percent more than other next-gen platforms combined.
Sigh, I guess the 360 being the sports console can't hurt me. But I don't really want those sports people on my system :cry:.
I'm kidding, btw.
"Madden NFL '08" (EA) on Xbox 360 was again the leading next gen platform with 173,000 units sold, compared to the PS3 at 62,000 and Wii at 58,000. To date, "Madden NFL '08" has sold 1.1 million units on Xbox 360, 87 percent more than other next-gen platforms combined.Dreams-Visions
That is key, it shows where traditional games are selling the most, and where resources targeted at people in this forum are likely to be focused.
MS has a very focused demographic which makes it easy for publishers to target games trhat will sell well. PS3 and Wii have much broader appeal which in many ways is a positive, but it means that individual games are less likely to sell as well.
Going by hardware, Wii is doing great pretty much everywhere, 360 doing well in US, ok in UK (not sure about Europe) and crappy in Japan, and PS3 is doing ok in Europe and pretty much sloppy everywhere else.
Software-wise, Wii mostly doing well-great worldwide, 360 doing great worldwide (crappy in Japan, selling a lot in the US, doing great in other countries such as UK and etc), and the PS3 is doing crappy pretty much everywhere... people make fun of Nintendo's first-party games, but if you look at the PS3 I can't remember of one third-party game that did too well.
[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="ma7moud93"]Will the 360 keep it up ?cakeorrdeath
So far, yes. The 360 has continued to outsell the Wii in NA for the entire month of October week to week. The PS3 of course continues to bring up the rear, battling it out with the GBA.
Really? that's impressive. What's your source.
If that's true then the 360 will likely lead all through Xmas (largely due to Wii stock issues)
Actually in my area Nintendo has been pumping out quite a bit of Wiis this month.
Sometimes you wonder if they want the Wii to be in short supply, like the Ipod.
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