Official Starcraft 2 Discussion Thread

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#1 CaseyWegner
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keep it here. you know the drill.

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#2 RagedRaldo54
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Casey, please unfloat some of this junk:(
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#3 Sony_Casual
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Game of the year 200x.
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#4 DA_B0MB
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I'm not even a hermit and I will upgrade my PC to run SC2. Even though I have no idea how. :P
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#5 project343
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We needed this. :)

And Starcraft II looks fine, if you ask me. Blizzard has always put gameplay before graphics, and they never take the lower-end PC out of the equation when developing games.
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#6 loco145
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The best game of this generation. /thread
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#7 musicalmac  Moderator
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Kind of what I expected from Starcraft 2. It's Starcraft... only, Starcraft 2. I hope it's as easy to get into as the original. Its' beauty was its' simplicity.
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#8 DA_B0MB
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Does anyone know if any of the guys that made the first SC are contributing to SC2?
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#9 zerooslo7990
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Now I defenatly need to upgrade my computer.
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#10 RahnAetas
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Another step Blizzard takes towards global domination!  Just crazy, just crazy.

Anyways, when it comes to what's shown so far, Blizzard has always traditionally built games in where they were not graphically intensive.  Rich detailed textures, as well as a strong sense of art style and direction has always taken precident over how many polygons they can fit on screen.  This is a smart move on all sides because they can create a pretty game which is accessable to anyone with even an old computer.  A lot of people have PCs and the more people who can buy the game and play it straight away, without buying upgrades or even a whole new computer is all the better for them.  Odds are you won't need a powerful PC that can play Supreme Commander to play Starcraft 2.  Starcraft is still a rather pretty game, even if extreamly updated.  A facelift was needed, and so that's what it got.  A lot of people still would buy Starcraft 2 if the only thing that was changed was graphics.

In terms of a storyline, Blizzard games also do a better job than most in getting people involved in it.  It's not only about the graphics or even gameplay, it's about telling an engaging story.  When it comes to StarCraft a story has been woven in where a lot of people want to know the aftermath, to know what happens to everyone.  This is also true of WarCraft and Diablo.  Blizzard is rather notorious for creating open ended... well endings, in where more can happen.

Finally, the gameplay.  For many people StarCraft is pretty close to perfect as it can get.  It's hard to improve on perfection, and for me it doesn't matter if it's more of the same.  It's been more of the same since the orginal WarCraft.  All modern day RTS games play in pretty much the same manner, and anyone who has attempted to break the mold have not done it and replicated the level of success Blizzard has had with its RTS games.

In the end people will get StarCraft 2.  Though I think people will get it because it's another great Blizzard game, not because it's just a Blizzard game, or because it's a StarCraft game.  They have created a market in where they are king, and unlike many others around them, blind arrogence has yet to rear its ugly head and turn something great, into something mediocre.  Blizzard has never sold a game on its brand name alone, afterall, it is the company that axes games in any stage of development if they think it's not a great game.

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#11 PeterTimpa
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I am really pumped up about this game I have always loved starcraft so i know this will be just as good or if not better. however i was really hoping for starcraft ghost who knows if or when it will be out
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#12 axt113
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I'm more concerned about the game interfereing with my studies, the last one caused me to have to drop all but one class one semester, playing LAN games all night, have to be careful with this one
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#13 Iyethar
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I'm so happy.  Starcraft is one of my all time favorite games, but its presentation and engine had become severely antiquated.

This sequel serves to reawaken my interest and provides a necessary technological update for current and future PC resolutions.

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#14 XaosII
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Invariably, some people say it doesnt look very good graphically. Its those same people who will then say you'll need $2,000 worth of upgrades to play Crysis because they cant put down the graphics.

If it advanced technical graphics, its the upgrades argument. If its just highly artistic, its the poor graphics argument.

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#15 CaseyWegner
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Casey, please unfloat some of this junk:(RagedRaldo54

i took down the halo thread. 

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#16 TheSystemLord1
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lame, I had a good thread going...oh well...the game is fugly.
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#17 thinicer
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lame, I had a good thread going...oh well...the game is fugly.TheSystemLord1

There is nothing wrong with the way it looks. 

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#18 NorthlandMan
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Beautiful looking game, long awaited sequel to the best strategy game ever
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#19 phatkav
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Can't wait for the game.

Anyone knows if the original crew who worked on Starcraft is still working at Blizzard? 

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#20 Blitz_Nemesis
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Havent done any pc gaming since i got my ps2 years ago but when i was playing on pc SC was the game. SC2 is gonna have my ps3 collecting dust.
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#21 darklord888
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lame, I had a good thread going...oh well...the game is fugly.TheSystemLord1


I think it's funny people are complaining about the graphics. They obviously have never played a Blizzard game before. Also it could be 2 years away for all we know the graphics will get a LOT better, hell it's not even near alpha stages yet.

I can't wait to play it though! I love Blizzard RTS's! They have a lot to live up to but they can pull it off. They did with all their other games.
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#22 shungokustasu
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Damn........I'm upgrading to a mac. I hope Starcraft 2 shows some mac love!

 

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#23 NorthlandMan
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We needed this. :)

And Starcraft II looks fine, if you ask me. Blizzard has always put gameplay before graphics, and they never take the lower-end PC out of the equation when developing games.
project343
That's why they're the pantheons of strategy game developers. Alot of people are brea\thing a sigh of relief they wont need a new PC to play this game Gameplay is always more imporant than graphics.
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#24 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]lame, I had a good thread going...oh well...the game is fugly.darklord888


I think it's funny people are complaining about the graphics. They obviously have never played a Blizzard game before. Also it could be 2 years away for all we know the graphics will get a LOT better, hell it's not even near alpha stages yet.

I can't wait to play it though! I love Blizzard RTS's! They have a lot to live up to but they can pull it off. They did with all their other games.

I only saw the CGI trialer. Is there gameplay footage? 

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#25 thinicer
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I took a look at the screen shots, and I think the graphics look very good. I'm looking more at the particle & lighting effects, explosions, smoke, and they all look outstanding and will probably get better by the time this game is released.

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#26 DA_B0MB
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[QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]lame, I had a good thread going...oh well...the game is fugly.shungokustasu



I think it's funny people are complaining about the graphics. They obviously have never played a Blizzard game before. Also it could be 2 years away for all we know the graphics will get a LOT better, hell it's not even near alpha stages yet.

I can't wait to play it though! I love Blizzard RTS's! They have a lot to live up to but they can pull it off. They did with all their other games.

I only saw the CGI trialer. Is there gameplay footage? 

Ummm yes. Check out the second official trailer, near the end they show some gameplay. It looks awesome.

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#27 NorthlandMan
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taken from my earlier thread First let's start off with the new Protoss powers of warping units anywhere on the field or creating them anwywhere where there is a Pylon. It seems very useful (Especially the Pylon thing) but from the screenshots it seems that warping units to other parts of the map takes a little time giving the enemy time to launch an attack or destrioy units before they warp in. It should also ensure that the Zerg have an advantage with their new Worm unit that can drop zerglings anywhere within an enemy base. Next the Units. The Protoss Motherships look Awesome (and practically invincible), and the improvments made to Zealots and Dragoons (immortals) seem excellent. But i'm a bit worried about the noteable absence of Protoss carriers which were one of my favourite units in the game. I don't mind the absence of Arbiters and Scouts though (the former of which was a bit overpowered). and the Phoenix and Warprey seem to be worthy additions to the fleet with each unit having distinct advantages and abilities. I love the new stalker units as they seem to have stolen the movements from Dragoons/Immortals (which now move in a more standardised way). Their ability to "Blink" across the map could be amazingly useful, especially against the Zerg. It looks to be one of the most unpredictable units in the game. I think the Colossi look great as well, but i hope that the addition of this new Tank type unit doesn't mean that the Reavers have been removed. Those slow moving artillery unis were incredibly useful in a jam. In closing, i like pretty much everything i see. But i still want carriers, Reavers and Archons. Everything else can be removed your thoughts?
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#28 Krazy_duck
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Get over the initial shock, and u realize it is just Starcraft with a graphical facelift

 

ADD Something to it!

 

 

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#29 greenleaf2000
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I hope my 256 mb Nvidia graphics card will be able to run this game well enough. Its gonna be so awesome.
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#30 DA_B0MB
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Get over the initial shock, and u realize it is just Starcraft with a graphical facelift

 

ADD Something to it!

 

 

Krazy_duck

Stupidest thing I've heard all day. Did you not see the gameplay? There's several new units and structures etc. added to the game. Honestly, how can anyone hate on a BLIZZARD game?

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#31 Zero_Fate_
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Get over the initial shock, and u realize it is just Starcraft with a graphical facelift

 

ADD Something to it!

Krazy_duck

Nice for you to comment on a game that we know nothing about.

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#32 Infernal246
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Damn........I'm upgrading to a mac. I hope Starcraft 2 shows some mac love!

 

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#33 mikemil828
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Get over the initial shock, and u realize it is just Starcraft with a graphical facelift

 

ADD Something to it!

 

 

Krazy_duck

Have you even been paying attention? 

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#34 darklord888
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[QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]lame, I had a good thread going...oh well...the game is fugly.shungokustasu



I think it's funny people are complaining about the graphics. They obviously have never played a Blizzard game before. Also it could be 2 years away for all we know the graphics will get a LOT better, hell it's not even near alpha stages yet.

I can't wait to play it though! I love Blizzard RTS's! They have a lot to live up to but they can pull it off. They did with all their other games.

I only saw the CGI trialer. Is there gameplay footage? 



Yeah like 21 mins worth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1RxXko-AnM&NR=1 The graphics remind me of Wc3 but better(which is a good thing imo).

I just thought seeing as I've never played SC1 I hope they change it enough to newbies can play alright. I don't wanna get my arse kicked every game by gamers who have been playing for 11 years.
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I'm gonna cry. 

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My most anticipated PC game......even more than Crysis.
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#37 kulmiye
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Never played Starcraft and I am not a fan of World of Warcraft but might try the new Starcraft if I get a new computer. Could someone give me a link or a lightly detailed essay describing and explaining the features of the game.
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#38 Infernal246
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Does anyone know if any of the guys that made the first SC are contributing to SC2?DA_B0MB

Morhaime, Metzen, and Pardo at least.

Bill Roper isn't around anymore though. :( 

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#39 cobrax75
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Never played Starcraft and I am not a fan of World of Warcraft but might try the new Starcraft if I get a new computer. Could someone give me a link or a lightly detailed essay describing and explaining the features of the game.
kulmiye

 

Just get the original starcraft....Its like $5 and tons of people play it online. 

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#40 Vandalvideo
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Welcome to the reason Starcraft became such a big hit and has entire television channels devoted to it. It can run on almost any machine. The graphics got a significant facelift, but seem to be easily handled on your every day machine.
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#41 SemiMaster
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I am going to have to get back into PC gaming, if only for this reason...

Starcraft = God RTS of all time. Today was a good day after hearing that news. 

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#42 blizzvalve
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This game is added to my most wanted list.
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#43 axt113
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I hope they're going to add more terran and Zerg units, because right now it looks like only the Protoss are getting an overhaul
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I'm not even a hermit and I will upgrade my PC to run SC2. Even though I have no idea how. :PDA_B0MB

Same. 

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#45 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]I'm not even a hermit and I will upgrade my PC to run SC2. Even though I have no idea how. :Pwaynehead895

Same. 

Unscrew the two screws for your PC's side panel. Use an anti static wirst wrap. Unscrew the single screw keeping your graphics card in place. Pop out. Easy as that. People only make it sound insanely hard. Its as easy as putting a hotdog in a bun and putting it in the microwave.
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#46 darklord888
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I hope they're going to add more terran and Zerg units, because right now it looks like only the Protoss are getting an overhaulaxt113


They all will be getting plenty of units. They just picked protoss to show off for now.
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#47 SemiMaster
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[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]I'm not even a hermit and I will upgrade my PC to run SC2. Even though I have no idea how. :Pwaynehead895

Same.

Heh, that's why I'm just gonna buy a new one if need be.

But fear not good sirs, chances are what you are typing this on (unless it's the Wii or PS3) will be able to play the game anyways. Blizzard is notorious in making their games accessible to the masses in terms of requirements. 

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#48 RahnAetas
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[QUOTE="waynehead895"]

[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]I'm not even a hermit and I will upgrade my PC to run SC2. Even though I have no idea how. :PSemiMaster

Same.

Heh, that's why I'm just gonna buy a new one if need be.

But fear not good sirs, chances are what you are typing this on (unless it's the Wii or PS3) will be able to play the game anyways. Blizzard is notorious in making their games accessible to the masses in terms of requirements. 

Quite, odds are if your computer can run WarCraft 3, you'll be able to run StarCraft 2 when it's released.

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#49 _Pedro_
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STARCRAFT 2!!!!!

The end of console gaming has come.  Blizzard alone is more powerful than every next gen console!

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#50 Rougehunter
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Damn........I'm upgrading to a mac. I hope Starcraft 2 shows some mac love!

 

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Most if not all blizzard games run on a mac