Official Too Human Thread - Keep It Here - Updated

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Previews and Videos

Dyack on 1up Yours "Why Forums Need Reform"

'Why Denis Dyack Never Gave Up On Too Human'

Dyack Playing Too Human Complexity Showcase'

Dyack on Story and Content in Games Part I

Dyack on Story and Content in Games Part II

Worth Playing Preview

The Goblin Man of Norway Videos

Character C1asses Overview

'Climbing the Skill Tree' Video

'Raven's Call' HD Video

'Beast Slayer' HD Video

'Storm the Gate' HD Video

'GRNDL-1' Boss Battle

World of Too Human Part I

World of Too Human Part II

Baldur's Arsenal Preview

'Serving It Up' Video

GameSpot Too Human Preview

Introduction

Too Human opens during the twilight of a centuries long war against the Children of Ymir, a horde of unyielding machines programmed to wipe mankind from the world. ODIN, the leader of the resistance against the machines, has established Midgard, the last stronghold of mankind, and left the Aesir, genetically engineered and cybernetically enhanced gods, to protect this sanctuary. The last anti-matter bombs, dropped hundreds of years ago, failed to seal the soulless machines, and so the Aesir fight on, attempting to carve a home in the ice for what remains of mankind.

The Aesir are the heros of Too Human, the hand created God-like humans who are the last hope of mankind. The player will take control of Baldur, the youngest, and least cybernetically enhanced, of the Aesir. Baldur is beloved amongst mankind, and being the youngest and favorite child of ODIN, the least jaded towards humanity. Baldur is joined by Thor, an utterly fearless, heavily cybernetically-upgraded warrior who carries a sentient warhammer named Mjolnir. Tyr, a centuries-old smith, acts to craft and maintain weapons for Baldur and company, and is as skilled with armors as he is with weapons. Freya acts as the World Tree expert for the Aesir, spending most of her time in cyberspace, studying Yggdrasil (the world tree) - what little time she spends in real-time she spends aiding Baldur and her fellow Aesir. Over-seeing all of the operations of the gods is Heimdall, the watchman, who helps plan and supply each mission.

However, all is not well amongst the Aesir, Loki, a mostly cybernetic being, has defied ODIN and allied with the machines. Hel, Loki's daughter, and administrator of the necropolis Helheim, has joined his cause. Afflicted with a wasting disease, she and her rotting minions represent a great threat to the other Aesir, and mankind.

And what of the machine horde? An army of mechanical goblins, crawling, leaping minions that quickly outnumber the human armies, threaten what little can be eeked out of the ice. Even more threatening, the Dark Elves, wiser, more agile beings lead the goblins in valiant combat. Lumbering forth from the horizon, monstrous trolls, large, powerful, slow engines of war tear the battlefield asunder. These great iron beats must be broken apart before they can be destroyed. And what lies beyond, buried deeper in the wastes? Monstrous creatures even larger and more deadly, clockwork constructs so dangerous they are believed by many to be only legend... alas, if only this were true!

Why Too Human?

He would fights monsters must take care not to become one himself

-Nietzsche

The advancing hordes of Ymir's monsters are harvesting human parts and limbs, attempting to become more human themselves by slapping flesh over their mechanical parts. At the same time, the Aesir are using cybernetic enhancements and sentient weaponry to become stronger, in order to fight the beasts. As the war wages on, Baldur is forced to choose between his own humanity, and the strength he needs to save mankind.

In this way, Baldur is "too human" to fight the beasts. Will Baldur become like Loki, nothing left of his humanity save a few scraps of tattered flesh clinging to metal bones? Who can say, of the events that have yet to pass?

C1asses

Too Human features five c1asses at launch which the player may choose, with more c1asses to be added in the future as downloadable content.

Bioengineer - Bioengineers are capable healers and protectors, able to drop shields to protect the party, and use powerful healing abilities. However, don't be fooled by the passive role of other "priests" or "clerics" in other games, in Too Human the player must fight and build combos in order to unleash powers. In fact, Denis Dyack has stated this c1ass required the most tweaking, because of how powerful certain abilities could become in the right hands. An excellent choice for the first time player.

Commando - Commandos are skilled with explosives and long-range weapons, able to pick off dangerous foes from a distance. Capable of dual-wielding guns, and using the most powerful long-range weapons in the game, Commandos are an excellent choice for those who prefer the warm barrel of a gun to a cold-steel sword.

Champion - Champions favor aerial combat and "juggling", able to hit foes in the air with a combination of gunplay and sword slashes. Champions are the most balanced of the c1asses in combat, equally skilled in ranged and close combat.

Defender - Defenders are the tanks of the Aesir army, able to absorb even the most devastating blows without flinching. This makes them ideal party members in any group, as they wield their powerful hammer and valiantly protect their teammates from attack after attack.

Berserker - Berserkers are all-out close combat addicts. The only c1ass able to dual-wield close combat weapons, they fly from enemy to enemy, building up massive combos, and dealing crippling amounts of damage to their foes. They monstrous speed and combat prowess come at a price, however, as the fragile Berserker's spree can come to a painful halt. One misstep may place them squarely in the path of devastating machine brutality - a grim reminder that they are still, after all, all too human.

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The Too Human demo is now available on Xbox LIVE. If you need it, there is a manual available online as well.

Video Footage - Too Human Demo - Defender Arena Battle

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The Too Human demo takes the player through an hour long section of gameplay as the Champion c1ass. The experience showcases the fast-paced combat, enjoyable leveling system, cybernetic world puzzles, gear, and the seamless cutscenes. The demo maintains a brisk framerate, demonstrates the game's lack of loading (beyond the initial load) and gives players an opportunity to experiment with the unique controls.

The demo also demonstrates the epic scale of battle - with swarms of close combat eneimes, long ranged missile attacks, and larger "boss creatures" frequently dropping simultaneously to threaten Baldur. It should be noted that while the demo does not represent final gameplay, it serves as a solid indicator of the near-final product's quality

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Why is Too Human the "Game to Beat?"

Too Human sets the bar for next-gen gameplay with seamless storytelling, intuitive right-stick combat, and brisk co-op gameplay. It's online system acts to showcase the integration of LIVE's feature set, offering up an enjoyable experience in both solo or co-op play. Too Human has been hyped as a "love / hate" title, a game that will challenge reviewers, and likely create a cult following in its wake.

A great deal of controversy has arisen surrounding Too Human due in part to its creator, Denis Dyack, and his drive for improvements in the gaming industry. Many Sony fans, eager for "retribution" for the perceived failures of Haze and Lair, have been hoping for this to be the "exclusive that got away". Too Human's demo has finally been released, and E3 is upon us. Will Too Human be the 360's fun online game? As Dyack himself has said - the proof is in the game.

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So download the demo, make a post, and take up arms - the Electronic Renaissance is again upon us - where do you stand?

Character Builds

"The Trench Warrior"

Defender - Cybernetic Alignment

Defender Skills

Defender's Resilience (10 points): 5% reduction to all damage taken (applies to teammates as well)
The Berserker's Grief (6 points): 6% chance to reflect all damage taken from an attack
Tree of Scorching Light (10 points): Spider - deploys a laser turret
Egil's Blessing (6 points): Battle Cry - draws all enemies aggro onto you
Warrior of the Iron Fist (10 points): increases damage dealt by hammers by 30%
Spirit of Fenrir (6 points): Unleashes Fenrir on nearby enemies

Cybernetic Skills

Augmented Musculature (5 points): 5% bonus to damage dealt, plus bonuses granted based on combo multiplier
Enhanced Mobility Actuators (10 points): 10% bonus to slide attack damage
Spreader of Ruin (6 points): 6% bonus to ruiner range
Submunition Distributor (6 points): 3% bonus to chance to inflict weapon status-based abilities
Everflowing Source (10 points): 50% bonus to spider deployment time
Hardened Carbotanium Chasis (10 points): 10% armor bonus to each equipped armor piece

"The Human Pinball"

Berserker - Human Alignment

Berserker Skills

A Capacity for Rage (10 points): Combo growth +110%, adds one level to combo meter
A Bear's Boiling Blood (10 points): Increases attack speed by 10% , plus combo bonuses
Loki's Kiss (5 points): spider: deploys a powerful homing mine
Swift of Claw (10 points): Battle Cry: greatly increases attack speed
Unrelenting Blades (10 points): 30% dual-wield attack speed increase
Fenrir (10 points): unleashes Fenrir on nearby enemies

Human Skills

The Everburning Heart (2 points): Decreases cost of combo-use abilities 4%
Hero's Heart (10 points): increases melee attack speed 20%
Desire to Overcome (6 points): increases fierce attack range 12%
Call of Ruin (6 points): increases ruiner attack damage 12%
Spirit Renewal (6 points): decreases spider recharge time 30%
Quick to Anger (10 points): combo growth +110%, adds one level to combo meter

I downloaded the demo and loved it. May have to pick this game up when it comes out, I really loved the combat.

Nicely done and much appreciated.

By the way, Howdy Dennis and we got your back. :) :)

I'll download the demo when I get home. I expect very little.

I hate official threads. They can obscure m ultiple views. But lets face it, in SW's there is not multiple views anyway. On to the subject. TOO HUMAN looks really cool. I have seen alot of vids. The enemy's floating when they sound like solid metal when you hit them worries me. But it looks amazing. Perhaps this official thread will change my mind when its all said and done?? 360-ps3-wii-pc

I'm not a fan of them myself, but unfortunately because of how much controversy surrounds Too Human it's the kind of game that will flood boards from today (when the demo and E3 news drops) until post-release (August 17th). Given the choice between letting a random moderator or poster create the thread, and getting something up there for the fans, I figured, well, lesser of two evils.

I don't think this thread is aloud on this forum.

In the System Wars Rules thread, it says that threads solely about information and discussion of one game only are not aloud on System Wars and are considered off-topic.

Is this thread a good idea?

Demo was fun

I said it will get an 8.0

I said it would be a sleeper hit.

And IMO it will deliver on my expectations.

I don't think this thread is aloud on this forum.

In the System Wars Rules thread, it says that threads solely about information and discussion of one game only are not aloud on System Wars and are considered off-topic.

Is this thread a good idea?

Willy105

Moderator approved by both CaseyWegner and MusicalMac. It's a genuine official, mod-approve, GS-backed hype thread. In all honestly, I think SoulReaverCross' latest rules revision simply contains some wording that is a bit confusing. I do not believe the mods intended to ban the normal stickies / hype threads / etc...

I'm guessing they'll get that reworded at some point in the future.

I don't think this thread is aloud on this forum.

In the System Wars Rules thread, it says that threads solely about information and discussion of one game only are not aloud on System Wars and are considered off-topic.

Is this thread a good idea?

Willy105

[QUOTE="Willy105"]

I don't think this thread is aloud on this forum.

In the System Wars Rules thread, it says that threads solely about information and discussion of one game only are not aloud on System Wars and are considered off-topic.

Is this thread a good idea?

subrosian

Moderator approved by both CaseyWegner and MusicalMac. It's a genuine official, mod-approve, GS-backed hype thread. In all honestly, I think SoulReaverCross' latest rules revision simply contains some wording that is a bit confusing. I do not believe the mods intended to ban the normal stickies / hype threads / etc...

I'm guessing they'll get that reworded at some point in the future.

Ok.

[QUOTE="360-ps3-wii-pc"]I hate official threads. They can obscure m ultiple views. But lets face it, in SW's there is not multiple views anyway. On to the subject. TOO HUMAN looks really cool. I have seen alot of vids. The enemy's floating when they sound like solid metal when you hit them worries me. But it looks amazing. Perhaps this official thread will change my mind when its all said and done?? subrosian

I'm not a fan of them myself, but unfortunately because of how much controversy surrounds Too Human it's the kind of game that will flood boards from today (when the demo and E3 news drops) until post-release (August 17th). Given the choice between letting a random moderator or poster create the thread, and getting something up there for the fans, I figured, well, lesser of two evils.

The game REALLY exceeded my expectations. They were pretty high to begin with,now I just can't wait for the game. I'm gonna save the 5 paragraph review untill after I beat the retail game. :DSo Denis was telling the truth when he said this is a game like no other. I personally give the demo a 8.5. Great game!To sum it up...
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Graphics:8;They really compliment the atmosphere of the game.Gameplay:9;There is a LOT of depth to the controls and gameplay mechanics. The loot system,upgrades,runes...etc. are well implemented.
Story:N/A
Tilt:9;The game is just plain fun and addictive.
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P.S.-Wussup to Denis!Where ever he may be.

Additionally, the honorable Mr. Dyack is a member of GameSpot, so trolling him is equivalent to trolling any other user and will be enforced as such. subrosian

so you guys are still sticking to your predictions?vicmackey39

Yes, we're predicting reviewers will fail to score the game as highly as we'd like, and that haters will say nasty things about the game :P

[QUOTE="subrosian"]Additionally, the honorable Mr. Dyack is a member of GameSpot, so trolling him is equivalent to trolling any other user and will be enforced as such. Jandurin

You'll see if he ever decides to come on and post himself. After the NeoGAF... incident... I'm not certain that he will choose to come on a forum. Dyack has made comments suggesting that it's not all that useful to do so, because even though fans enjoy it, you get a lot of people who just want to attack a developer, and a big media frenzy around it. I also think he'd like the focus to be on the game and not him, if that makes sense?

My mini review of the demo;

http://uk.gamespot.com/users/nicenator/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25471825

Bear in mind that this is both my own opinion, and only based on the demo.

I also think he'd like the focus to be on the game and not him, if that makes sense?

subrosian

[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]so you guys are still sticking to your predictions?subrosian

Yes, we're predicting reviewers will fail to score the game as highly as we'd like, and that haters will say nasty things about the game :P

It's funny. You're always going on at us for making fun of the piece of crap based on what we have seen so far yet you have your own preconceptions about the game. You have already decided it's a AAA classic

before anyone says the game was hyped AAA by everyone let me just say:

I hyped the game AAA, but most people didnt

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26463960&page=1

in this thread we see that the hyped ranged mostly from AA, A to B

It's funny. You're always going on at us for making fun of the piece of crap based on what we have seen so far yet you have your own preconceptions about the game. You have already decided it's a AAA classic

vicmackey39

[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

It's funny. You're always going on at us for making fun of the piece of crap based on what we have seen so far yet you have your own preconceptions about the game. You have already decided it's a AAA classic

Jandurin

i think alot of people are making fun of it because of how it's been developed (after 10 years this is what we get). genre has nothing to do with how good a game is, nor does the idea. however, gameplay videos are a great way of telling how good a game will be IMO soo....

genre has nothing to do with how good a game is, nor does the idea.Heydanbud92

im still downloading it... its at 33%... I hope to do a complete playthrough before the press conference... how long is it?wolverine4262

im still downloading it... its at 33%... I hope to do a complete playthrough before the press conference... how long is it?wolverine4262

im still downloading it... its at 33%... I hope to do a complete playthrough before the press conference... how long is it?wolverine4262

I'm at 3% :cry:

For!

[QUOTE="Heydanbud92"] genre has nothing to do with how good a game is, nor does the idea.Jandurin

i'm just referring to when you said he likes the genre and the idea, and how irrelevant that is to how good a game is. looking at videos is a better way of telling how good a game will be.

for instance haze is in a genre with alot of great games, and it had a pretty cool idea (to alot of people) but it flopped horribly. not to mention it had great developers too. on the other hand whenever a video was released people saw it for what it was (mostly)... a mediocre boring game.

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]im still downloading it... its at 33%... I hope to do a complete playthrough before the press conference... how long is it?SSCyborg

I'm at 3% :cry:

For!

It was pretty good, however the camera could get in the way, 4/5 different camera angles and none of them useful, and the graphics were sub-par. And it was a bit on the easy side, but I guess that's the first level.thrones

What's the hit detection like? and how "rich" is the story?

How do you play as other classes?

I really wanna play as a defender. I heard people saying they have played as the other classes, but they're locked. I thought i would get to play as them after finishing the demo, but i think it just went straight back to the dashboard.

[QUOTE="thrones"]It was pretty good, however the camera could get in the way, 4/5 different camera angles and none of them useful, and the graphics were sub-par. And it was a bit on the easy side, but I guess that's the first level.vicmackey39

What's the hit detection like? and how "rich" is the story?

How do you play as other classes?

I really wanna play as a defender. I heard people saying they have played as the other classes, but they're locked. I thought i would get to play as them after finishing the demo, but i think it just went straight back to the dashboard.

SSJ_Nega

[QUOTE="thrones"]It was pretty good, however the camera could get in the way, 4/5 different camera angles and none of them useful, and the graphics were sub-par. And it was a bit on the easy side, but I guess that's the first level.vicmackey39

What's the hit detection like? and how "rich" is the story?

You don't get much of the story yet so I don't think anyone can make an assumtion about it based off the demo.

The hit detection is pretty good for the most part, sometimes you swing your melee weapon all the way around and it missed 2 NPC but it isn't too big of a deal since most of them die in 1 or 2 hits right now.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Heydanbud92"] genre has nothing to do with how good a game is, nor does the idea.Heydanbud92

i'm just referring to when you said he likes the genre and the idea, and how irrelevant that is to how good a game is. looking at videos is a better way of telling how good a game will be.

for instance haze is in a genre with alot of great games, and it had a pretty cool idea (to alot of people) but it flopped horribly. not to mention it had great developers too. on the other hand whenever a video was released people saw it for what it was (mostly)... a mediocre boring game.

[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

[QUOTE="thrones"]It was pretty good, however the camera could get in the way, 4/5 different camera angles and none of them useful, and the graphics were sub-par. And it was a bit on the easy side, but I guess that's the first level.thrones

What's the hit detection like? and how "rich" is the story?

You can easily fix that with a quick flick of the right thumb stick, but I agree it does get annoying. I was trying out commando and I was trying to pull back so I could use my guns but the problem I had was turning around to shoot the enemy without taking hits. I came to the conclusion you have to start firing first then flick the right thumb stick to aim at on enemy. I don't think I will be playing Commando when retail version hits. Was too frustrating with the guns.

[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

[QUOTE="thrones"]It was pretty good, however the camera could get in the way, 4/5 different camera angles and none of them useful, and the graphics were sub-par. And it was a bit on the easy side, but I guess that's the first level.thrones

What's the hit detection like? and how "rich" is the story?

How do you play as other classes?

I really wanna play as a defender. I heard people saying they have played as the other classes, but they're locked. I thought i would get to play as them after finishing the demo, but i think it just went straight back to the dashboard.

SSJ_Nega

Hmm... That's odd. I've heard people say they've played as a Berserker and a defender.

[QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Heydanbud92"] genre has nothing to do with how good a game is, nor does the idea.Jandurin

i'm just referring to when you said he likes the genre and the idea, and how irrelevant that is to how good a game is. looking at videos is a better way of telling how good a game will be.

for instance haze is in a genre with alot of great games, and it had a pretty cool idea (to alot of people) but it flopped horribly. not to mention it had great developers too. on the other hand whenever a video was released people saw it for what it was (mostly)... a mediocre boring game.

I know. I'm just saying my main point is that gameplay videos are better then the things you listed for making judgments about how good you think a game will be IMO. that's all.

the demo was okay .. a bit boring

not my type of game so i won't be getting it, but it wasn't bad