Ok we get it pc has better graphics but does really have the better games

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#1 13C
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Aside from controls which are subjective to opinion

and mods that only add to a game

Has Pc really put out better games in the past 5 years as opposes to consoles (all consoles but limited to past 5 years)

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#2 WilliamRLBaker
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no...but then again this is all subjective whats better is opinion.

even scores are opinions in the end.

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#3 AAllxxjjnn
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Yeehhhhhh. it has.
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#4 R3FURBISHED
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I think The Witcher: EE is the best RPG since KOTOR II. But that is my oppinion.
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#5 Regisland
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Nope....I will trade Uncharted 2 and Halo for any PC exclusive.

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#6 13C
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Yeehhhhhh. it has. AAllxxjjnn

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#7 Mu5uk0
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175 AAA games. Yes, PC has good games.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Yeehhhhhh. it has. 13C

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http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/thewitcherenhancededition/index.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssimilargames&tag=similargames;title;1

The Witcher

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#9 VendettaRed07
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Idk im not a pc gamer, but thats only because nothing has really jumped out at me enough that I would want to get an awesome gaming rig to play them

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#10 Tannerr33
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IMO the anno series are better games than anything the consoles have. Thats without touching anything else the PC has to offer.

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#11 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Yeehhhhhh. it has. 13C

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World in Conflict, The Witcher, Crysis, STALKER, GTR2, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, etc
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#12 Wardemon50
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Plenty of great games have come out for the PC. If you don't think so, than you obviously aren't a PC gamer and are making attacks on something you don't understand.
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#13 AAllxxjjnn
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Also, what is this 3 on 1? Really?
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#14 Vesica_Prime
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I don't know about you but old games like Doom, Starcraft, Counter Strike 1.6 which are still alive and thriving shows how good they are.

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#15 metroidfood
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Where's CaseyWegner and his giant chart o' ownage?

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#16 Regisland
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[QUOTE="13C"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Yeehhhhhh. it has. AAllxxjjnn

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World in Conflict, The Witcher, Crysis, STALKER, GTR2, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, etc

Just Witcher and Crysis are groundbreaking from that list :S

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#17 agentfred
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All consoles together? Maybe not, but it's easily my favorite system of the last 5 years.

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#18 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="13C"]

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Regisland

World in Conflict, The Witcher, Crysis, STALKER, GTR2, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, etc

Just Witcher and Crysis are groundbreaking from that list :S

HA!

Someone needs to play more Troika.

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#19 agentfred
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Someone needs to play more Troika.tagyhag
I loved Arcanum, but I always felt like Vampire was a bit overhyped by the fans (too limited in terms of scale for me).
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#20 glez13
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A good game is also subjective. If we sum up all consoles together and put them against the PC I'm gonna say yes, in AAA games, but that is a joke. If we take AA games then I'm gonna say no even if you unite all consoles, and then the joke meter explodes.

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#21 Silverbond
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Yes.

Spreadsheet don't lie.

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#22 Sky-
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Yes.

Spreadsheet don't lie.

Silverbond

My hips don't lie either. :P

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#23 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Someone needs to play more Troika.agentfred
I loved Arcanum, but I always felt like Vampire was a bit overhyped by the fans (too limited in terms of scale for me).

That I can agree with, but to me, the game was a vast improvement over Redemption (Even though it technically wasn't a sequel) and just about everything else in the game made it phenomenal. Especially the ability to actually use a REAL vampire clan like Nosferatu and not ones that sparkle in the sunlight. :P
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#24 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Yes.

Spreadsheet don't lie.

Sky-

My hips don't lie either. :P

That completely depends on whether or not your hips agree with the spreadsheet... >_>

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#25 SilverChimera
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Yes. PC "wins" in all categories except sales, and that too because there's no method of calculating the PC sales. PC has best graphics, highest scoring games (on gamespot), best online, free online, best value in the long run, best controls for the most part, etc.
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#26 cliff122316
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your argument is so bad no one even cares about this enough to list games. thats when you know you fail. you dont provide any evidence that it has not been better so why should we prove that it is? and btw whenever you put pc against all of the consoles combined...well i think you have proved its dominance right there
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#27 XEviscerateX
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You also cannot forget that playing FPS on a mouse and keyboard is far superior to controller. No such thing as a flick shot for consoles.

For competitive FPS players like myself the PC is the superior platform.

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#28 agentfred
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"] That I can agree with, but to me, the game was a vast improvement over Redemption (Even though it technically wasn't a sequel) and just about everything else in the game made it phenomenal. Especially the ability to actually use a REAL vampire clan like Nosferatu and not ones that sparkle in the sunlight. :P

Oh yeah, I loved the atmosphere and the RPG system. I thought they made a great game, just not enough of it for me.
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#29 vistamanV5
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Yes.

Spreadsheet don't lie.

Silverbond
A bunch of expansion packs and some RTS is far from ownage..... But then again when my new 9800GT gets here Sat my opinion might change...
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#30 13C
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your argument is so bad no one even cares about this enough to list games. thats when you know you fail. you dont provide any evidence that it has not been better so why should we prove that it is? and btw whenever you put pc against all of the consoles combined...well i think you have proved its dominance right therecliff122316

Evidence, why should I provide evidence Im not the one saying pc games are better then console games.

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#31 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Take a look at the spreadsheet, whoever happens to have it.
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#32 13C
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You also cannot forget that playing FPS on a mouse and keyboard is far superior to controller. No such thing as a flick shot for consoles.

For competitive FPS players like myself the PC is the superior platform.

XEviscerateX

Controls are opinion and there are many types of games out there other then shooters.

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[QUOTE="cliff122316"]your argument is so bad no one even cares about this enough to list games. thats when you know you fail. you dont provide any evidence that it has not been better so why should we prove that it is? and btw whenever you put pc against all of the consoles combined...well i think you have proved its dominance right there13C

Evidence, why should I provide evidence Im not the one saying pc games are better then console games.

There's a link to a spreadsheet at the top of the page. PC has the most AAAE out of all the systems going by Gamespot.

Now you have to back up your argument.

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#34 Wardemon50
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[QUOTE="XEviscerateX"]

You also cannot forget that playing FPS on a mouse and keyboard is far superior to controller. No such thing as a flick shot for consoles.

For competitive FPS players like myself the PC is the superior platform.

13C

Controls are opinion and there are many types of games out there other then shooters.

I can click a link on a website without even thinking twice. On a console, I have to adjust the cursor position when web-browsing. Simple example, but it applies to all sorts of games. Plus, PCs can use a variety of gamepads while consoles can't use kb&m (except unreal 3)
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[QUOTE="cliff122316"]your argument is so bad no one even cares about this enough to list games. thats when you know you fail. you dont provide any evidence that it has not been better so why should we prove that it is? and btw whenever you put pc against all of the consoles combined...well i think you have proved its dominance right there13C

Evidence, why should I provide evidence Im not the one saying pc games are better then console games.

You are here to claim consoles are better than pc's. you specifically made a thread to make that claim. you made your claim first. so you should back it up first.
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#36 13C
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[QUOTE="13C"]

[QUOTE="cliff122316"]your argument is so bad no one even cares about this enough to list games. thats when you know you fail. you dont provide any evidence that it has not been better so why should we prove that it is? and btw whenever you put pc against all of the consoles combined...well i think you have proved its dominance right therecliff122316

Evidence, why should I provide evidence Im not the one saying pc games are better then console games.

You are here to claim consoles are better than pc's. you specifically made a thread to make that claim. you made your claim first. so you should back it up first.

I never made a claim I asked a question.

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#37 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Yes.

Spreadsheet don't lie.

vistamanV5

A bunch of expansion packs and some RTS is far from ownage..... But then again when my new 9800GT gets here Sat my opinion might change...

You should be informed that your opinion actually doesn't mean much. That spreadsheet is undeniable fact hence, "Spreadsheet don't lie."

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#38 13C
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That list has quite a lot of expansions on it.

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#39 13C
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[QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Yes.

Spreadsheet don't lie.

Silverbond

A bunch of expansion packs and some RTS is far from ownage..... But then again when my new 9800GT gets here Sat my opinion might change...

You should be informed that your opinion actually doesn't mean much. That spreadsheet is undeniable fact hence, "Spreadsheet don't lie."

And its undeniable fact I see alot of expansions on there.

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[QUOTE="cliff122316"][QUOTE="13C"]

Evidence, why should I provide evidence Im not the one saying pc games are better then console games.

13C

You are here to claim consoles are better than pc's. you specifically made a thread to make that claim. you made your claim first. so you should back it up first.

I never made a claim I asked a question.

Who are you kidding... The question was "does it have better games?". Better games than the consoles is what gets extrapolated from that title. Unless you are truly curious for research purposes (which I doubt you were, setting parameters to give the consoles a handicap), this is clearly I thread about "consoles are better than PC"

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[QUOTE="cliff122316"][QUOTE="13C"]

Evidence, why should I provide evidence Im not the one saying pc games are better then console games.

13C

You are here to claim consoles are better than pc's. you specifically made a thread to make that claim. you made your claim first. so you should back it up first.

I never made a claim I asked a question.

the way you asked the question implied that you do not agree with the fact that pc gaming does have better games as referenced by the spreadsheet. if you agreed with this you would not have made the thread in this way. just because you didnt outright say it doesnt mean you didnt give away your position on the matter. When you ask if pc gaming really has better games than consoles you are doubting what you yourself are positioning as the more popular belief.
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#42 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"] A bunch of expansion packs and some RTS is far from ownage..... But then again when my new 9800GT gets here Sat my opinion might change...13C

You should be informed that your opinion actually doesn't mean much. That spreadsheet is undeniable fact hence, "Spreadsheet don't lie."

And its undeniable fact I see alot of expansions on there.

And it's also undeniable fact that a lot of these expansions are AAA quality.

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#43 13C
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[QUOTE="13C"]

[QUOTE="cliff122316"] You are here to claim consoles are better than pc's. you specifically made a thread to make that claim. you made your claim first. so you should back it up first. Wardemon50

I never made a claim I asked a question.

Who are you kidding... The question was "does it have better games?". Better games than the consoles is what gets extrapolated from that title. Unless you are truly curious for research purposes (which I doubt you were, setting parameters to give the consoles a handicap), this is clearly I thread about "consoles are better than PC"

I hear hermits always claiming that pc is better then consoles in every way but all I ever see are graphics. This is to get hermits to prove pc has better games.

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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"] A bunch of expansion packs and some RTS is far from ownage..... But then again when my new 9800GT gets here Sat my opinion might change...13C

You should be informed that your opinion actually doesn't mean much. That spreadsheet is undeniable fact hence, "Spreadsheet don't lie."

And its undeniable fact I see alot of expansions on there.

Ah damn, I forgot expansions were unplayable, what were those developers THINKING?
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#45 Wardemon50
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[QUOTE="Wardemon50"]

[QUOTE="13C"]

I never made a claim I asked a question.

13C

Who are you kidding... The question was "does it have better games?". Better games than the consoles is what gets extrapolated from that title. Unless you are truly curious for research purposes (which I doubt you were, setting parameters to give the consoles a handicap), this is clearly I thread about "consoles are better than PC"

I hear hermits always claiming that pc is better then consoles in every way but all I ever see are graphics. This is to get hermits to prove pc has better games.

Well, there's proof in all the posts preceding this one. So yeah, there are more "better games" on PC. Done.
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#46 Masculus
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Maybe, maybe not. The thing about PC is that you can have it all (or most of it).

Yesterday i was playing Streets of Rage 3 and MetalSlug Xwith my brother, andi am right now playing Icewind Dale (and still looks good). Making a contest out of those last five years is a bit unfair since the PC is not limited to such - in comparison if i had a PS3I probably wouldn't be able to play GTA 3. So you see, what makes PC great is that you are not limited to these years in game, hell I could install my Diablo 2 right now and play with 1000's of peoples wich is more people than Gears of War 2 or Resistance after 14 months have playing right now.

As to your question I believe is probably a tie, PC has its exclusives, 360 theirs, PS3 theirs. PS3 got the hottest exclusive these days, but the amount of great X360/PC games that it lacks can be punishing. The 360... well, ain't looking very hot now. The PC got cheaper and better performing multiplats while the future is kinda uncertain.

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#47 13C
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[QUOTE="13C"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

You should be informed that your opinion actually doesn't mean much. That spreadsheet is undeniable fact hence, "Spreadsheet don't lie."

Silverbond

And its undeniable fact I see alot of expansions on there.

And it's also undeniable fact that a lot of these expansions are AAA quality.

yes but there not full games. They could be used to argue the greatest of the original game but cant be considered games themselves.

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#48 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="13C"]

And its undeniable fact I see alot of expansions on there.

13C

And it's also undeniable fact that a lot of these expansions are AAA quality.

yes but there not full games. They could be used to argue the greatest of the original game but cant be considered games themselves.

Why can they not be considered full games?
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I hear hermits always claiming that pc is better then consoles in every way but all I ever see are graphics. This is to get hermits to prove pc has better games.

13C

One: Better games is up to the person - hermits think their games are better so they say so. Along with controls and whatever else they want to throw in.

Two: Arguing with these fanboys will yield the same result as arguing with this
[spoiler] [/spoiler]

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#50 13C
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[QUOTE="13C"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

You should be informed that your opinion actually doesn't mean much. That spreadsheet is undeniable fact hence, "Spreadsheet don't lie."

tagyhag

And its undeniable fact I see alot of expansions on there.

Ah damn, I forgot expansions were unplayable, what were those developers THINKING?

Say what you want but expansions are expansions not full games. So pc has the better expansions but dont use them as games in a game vs game comparison