Ok we get it pc has better graphics but does really have the better games

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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]And it's also undeniable fact that a lot of these expansions are AAA quality.

tagyhag

yes but there not full games. They could be used to argue the greatest of the original game but cant be considered games themselves.

Because there not :x

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[QUOTE="13C"]

And its undeniable fact I see alot of expansions on there.

13C

yes but there not full games. They could be used to argue the greatest of the original game but cant be considered games themselves.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="13C"]

yes but there not full games. They could be used to argue the greatest of the original game but cant be considered games themselves.

13C

Because there not :x

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="13C"]

yes but there not full games. They could be used to argue the greatest of the original game but cant be considered games themselves.

13C

Because there not :x

[QUOTE="13C"]I hear hermits always claiming that pc is better then consoles in every way but all I ever see are graphics. This is to get hermits to prove pc has better games.

R3FURBISHED

One: Better games is up to the person - hermits think their games are better so they say so. Along with controls and whatever else they want to throw in.

Two: Arguing with these fanboys will yield the same result as arguing with this

Not including expansions aaae

GTR 2910/9/2006

Crysis9.511/13/2007

World in Conflict9.59/18/2007

World of Warcraft

Crysis Warhead9

9/17/2008

Sins of a Solar Empire92/13/2008

Company of Heroes99/11/2006

Sins of a Solar Empire92/13/2008

Not including expansions

GTR 2910/9/2006

Crysis9.511/13/2007

World in Conflict9.59/18/2007

World of Warcraft

Crysis Warhead9

9/17/2008

Sins of a Solar Empire92/13/2008

Company of Heroes99/11/2006

Sins of a Solar Empire92/13/2008

13C

and here we go by GS scores, and by GS scores the pc is better.....anything else? (and of course the graphics are undeniably better)

cliff122316

Not including expansions aaae

GTR 2910/9/2006

Crysis9.511/13/2007

World in Conflict9.59/18/2007

World of Warcraft

Crysis Warhead9

9/17/2008

Sins of a Solar Empire92/13/2008

Company of Heroes99/11/2006

Sins of a Solar Empire92/13/2008

13C

360

Forza Motorsport 39.510/27/2009

Halo 39.59/23/2007

Forza Motorsport 29.25/29/2007

Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City910/30/2009

Halo 3: ODST99/22/2009

Gears of War 29

11/7/2008

Perfect Dark Zero911/21/2005

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and here we go by GS scores, and by GS scores the pc is better.....anything else? (and of course the graphics are undeniably better)

R3FURBISHED

Um, no. "Better" in SW isn't a matter of opinion. We go by GS scores and those scores are treated as fact.

[QUOTE="13C"]

Not including expansions aaae

GTR 2910/9/2006

Crysis9.511/13/2007

World in Conflict9.59/18/2007

World of Warcraft

Crysis Warhead9

9/17/2008

Sins of a Solar Empire92/13/2008

Company of Heroes99/11/2006

Sins of a Solar Empire92/13/2008

Wardemon50

Thats the new excuse. Games are games. If they good regardless of system they get could marks. Sure graphics are viewed diff but we already know pc dominates in that field.

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Not including expansions aaae

GTR 2910/9/2006
Crysis9.511/13/2007
World in Conflict9.59/18/2007
World of Warcraft
Crysis Warhead 9/17/2008
Sins of a Solar Empire92/13/2008
Company of Heroes99/11/2006
Sins of a Solar Empire92/13/2008

Silverbond

While we can spin arguments anyway we like, the fact of the matter is that those games are on the spreadsheet, therefore, they count.

Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City910/30/200913C

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Silverbond

The thread is about full games, Therefore in this thread only full games count

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"][QUOTE="cliff122316"]

and here we go by GS scores, and by GS scores the pc is better.....anything else? (and of course the graphics are undeniably better)

Silverbond

Um, no. "Better" in SW isn't a matter of opinion. We go by GS scores and those scores are treated as fact.

[QUOTE="13C"]Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City910/30/2009agentfred

Doesn't require gta4 to play.

Better games is personal opinion.

In System Wars, going by the spreadsheet, it has better, and more games.

The thread is about full games, Therefore in this thread only full games count

13C

[QUOTE="13C"]The thread is about full games, Therefore in this thread only full games count

Silverbond

Its not unfair to not regard full games as full games. I'm sorry you cant get past that.

[QUOTE="13C"]The thread is about full games, Therefore in this thread only full games count

Silverbond

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="13C"]The thread is about full games, Therefore in this thread only full games count

R3FURBISHED

Discounting games on the spreadsheet the same way he did.

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"][QUOTE="Silverbond"] So, I can make a thread discounting all console FPSes to prove the PC's dominance and that would be perfectly ok?

Silverbond

Discounting games on the spreadsheet the same way he did.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]13C

The thread is about full games, Therefore in this thread only full games count

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="13C"]

WotlK has the potential to last alot of WoW players thousands of hours. MGS4 has 10 hours of gameplay in it max. If an expansion is offers more gameplay than any other game on the market, why shouldn't it count? Also, that was one of the few expansions I saw up there. Fact of the matter is PC has 82 AAE+ games this gen, the ps3 has what, 13? 360? wii? Not even all the consoles stacked together hold a candle to the amount of quality titles on the PC, despite the fact that this has been one of the weaker generations for the PC.

[QUOTE="13C"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="13C"]The thread is about full games, Therefore in this thread only full games count

13C

Its not unfair to not regard full games as full games. I'm sorry you cant get past that.

What do you define as a full game? MW2 :lol:

The Best of the best games are no longer on PC anymore. Developers are eschewing PC more and more with each passing year.

PC development used to be where the game indutries best games could be found, and it would be quite a regular thing to see.

For instance, PC hasn't had an AIAS GAME OF THE YEAR game since Half Life 2 in 2004. Since then, it's been God Of War (PS3, 2005), Gears Of War (XBOX 360 2006), CALL Of Duty 4 (multiplatform 2007), Little Big Planet (PS3 2008),

and next...we all know that Uncharted 2 is going to win for 2009.

PC isn't dead or anything like that, but it certainly isn't what it used to be.

The Best of the best games are no longer on PC anymore. Developers are eschewing PC more and more with each passing year.

PC development used to be where the game indutries best games could be found, and it would be quite a regular thing to see.

For instance, PC hasn't had an AIAS GAME OF THE YEAR game since Half Life 2 in 2004. Since then, it's been God Of War (PS3, 2005), Gears Of War (XBOX 360 2006), CALL Of Duty 4 (multiplatform 2007), Little Big Planet (PS3 2008),

and next...we all know that Uncharted 2 is going to win for 2009.

PC isn't dead or anything like that, but it certainly isn't what it used to be.

Persistantthug

Developers aren't ditching any platform, they are going multiplat instead because staying exclusive to one platform is plain stupid business wise. There are more console devs going PC than there are pc devs going console.

How about enjoying what ever console or PC you've got instead of making this poll.

Best, Better are subjective terms. Everyone has different opinions.

Developers aren't ditching any platform, they are going multiplat instead because staying exclusive to one platform is plain stupid business wise. There are more console devs going PC than there are pc devs going console.

shakmaster13

Yes they are. EA doesn't even bother bringing Madden to the PC. NBA LIVE did go, but not 2K10 which is considered the better basketball.

You want to know the most craziest thing? Baseball, because it's such a stat driven sport, is supposed to be tailor made for PC. If there's anything PC is supposed to own and/or have, it would be Baseball, right? The best baseball doesn't even exist on PC, unfortunately...MLB THE SHOW 09.

PC mainstays though, they are going to Consoles. Valve, Bioware (long ago), and even Blizzard, because Diablo 3 is rumored to be on consoles.

Again, PC gaming still has its place, but its place isn't as glorious as it once was...not by a longshot.

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

Developers aren't ditching any platform, they are going multiplat instead because staying exclusive to one platform is plain stupid business wise. There are more console devs going PC than there are pc devs going console.

Persistantthug

Yes they are. EA doesn't even bother bringing Madden to the PC. NBA LIVE did go, but not 2K10 which is considered the better basketball.

You want to know the most craziest thing? Baseball, because it's such a stat driven sport, is supposed to be tailor made for PC. If there's anything PC is supposed to own and/or have, it would be Baseball, right? The best baseball doesn't even exist on PC, unfortunately...MLB THE SHOW 09.

PC mainstays though, they are going to Consoles. Valve, Bioware (long ago), and even Blizzard, because Diablo 3 is rumored to be on consoles.

Again, PC gaming still has its place, but its place isn't as glorious as it once was...not by a longshot.

EA is a horrible example, considering they published PC exclusive games like Crysis, Battlefield, Hellgate London, and so on. That all being said, anyone knows Valve is giving a LOT more support to PC over consoles, same as BioWare and Blizzard. What does that prove? They're expanding their market, but keeping their best on the PC. How is the PC losing out here?Skittles_McGee

EA's a great example. They are an example of a dev who's allowed Console development to encroach upon the PC market's games. The newest Crysis is certainly going multi, Battlefield is multi....in fact the 2 most previous Battlefield games (Bad Company 1 and 1943) didn't even go to PC's.

But really, that's getting off the point a bit, the point is, the industry's BEST OF THE BEST games over the last 4-5 years have not been for PC...unfortunately.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] EA is a horrible example, considering they published PC exclusive games like Crysis, Battlefield, Hellgate London, and so on. That all being said, anyone knows Valve is giving a LOT more support to PC over consoles, same as BioWare and Blizzard. What does that prove? They're expanding their market, but keeping their best on the PC. How is the PC losing out here?Persistantthug

EA's a great example. They are an example of a dev who's allowed Console development to encroach upon the PC market's games. The newest Crysis is certainly going multi, Battlefield is multi....in fact the 2 most previous Battlefield games (Bad Company 1 and 1943) didn't even go to PC's.

But really, that's getting off the point a bit, the point is, the industry's BEST OF THE BEST games over the last 4-5 years have not been for PC...unfortunately.

It's funny how fanboys dismiss PC exclusives so consoles can have the upper hand. "But they don't count! :cry:". I've heard that argument before, and it doesn't stop sounding ridiculous. Especially after all the 360 fanboys were raving about how great EFLC was. It's also funny that even if we dismiss expansions the PC would still have the most high scoring exclusives this generation.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Yeehhhhhh. it has. 13C

Like ?

is slightly better for FPS's. wooooode