PC & 360 Exclusive or not?

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...cobrax25

doesnt matter, because the pc isnt a platform

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...RTweaponchange

doesnt matter, because the pc isnt a platform

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...RTweaponchange

doesnt matter, because the pc isnt a platform

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...RTweaponchange

doesnt matter, because the pc isnt a platform

a rose by any other name...

[QUOTE="jbeen"]

Then why would MS continue to make games for the PC platform then if there is nothing in it for them now that they have the xbox? I gotta figure they are making money somewhere or they would just stop releasing "Games for Windows" all together and consintrate on 360 games.

Hewkii

MS (unlike Sony and Nintendo) made their money, and contiunes to make their money with the PC. They will never turn their backs on the cash cow that is the PC. That is why the line is not as clear between Multi plats that come out on the PC and the 360 and games that come out on the PS3 and the PC or PS3 and the 360. You are right, games that come out on the 360 and the PC are multi plat but it is not as easy to label them as such because the link between the 360 and PC is very strong due to MS presence in both platforms.

[QUOTE="Grive"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Actually, games for windows is a viral marketing campaign PAID FOR by Microsoft. In no way does Microsoft earn royalties from it, and in no way does it make it a Microsoft platform. Vandalvideo

I'm going in an entirely valid direction for my arguement. I'm using Mr. Console's logic here. He says because the operating system is owned by Microsoft its a Microsoft platform. Well....no. You also need the engine and the hardware in it. Theres a huge difference between consoles and PCs. The console is manufactured by the actual company, while the PC IS NOT MANUFACTURED BY MICROSOFT. The PC is a collaboration of many different companies. Vandalvideo

• By and large, MS has been influencing the path of PC gaming on a technical level (DirectX, XNA)
• Most PC gaming occurs under a ms platform (windows) regardless of who made the actual chip.
• MS is developing the main cohesive marketing strategy for the medium

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...cobrax25

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="jbeen"]

Then why would MS continue to make games for the PC platform then if there is nothing in it for them now that they have the xbox? I gotta figure they are making money somewhere or they would just stop releasing "Games for Windows" all together and consintrate on 360 games.

jbeen

MS (unlike Sony and Nintendo) made their money, and contiunes to make their money with the PC. They will never turn their backs on the cash cow that is the PC. That is why the line is not as clear between Multi plats that come out on the PC and the 360 and games that come out on the PS3 and the PC or PS3 and the 360. You are right, games that come out on the 360 and the PC are multi plat but it is not as easy to label them as such concidering the link between the 360 and PC is very strong due to MS.

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...cobrax25

it is not as easy to label them as such concidering the link between the 360 and PC is very strong due to MS.

jbeen

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Grive"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Actually, games for windows is a viral marketing campaign PAID FOR by Microsoft. In no way does Microsoft earn royalties from it, and in no way does it make it a Microsoft platform. beldugo

I'm going in an entirely valid direction for my arguement. I'm using Mr. Console's logic here. He says because the operating system is owned by Microsoft its a Microsoft platform. Well....no. You also need the engine and the hardware in it. Theres a huge difference between consoles and PCs. The console is manufactured by the actual company, while the PC IS NOT MANUFACTURED BY MICROSOFT. The PC is a collaboration of many different companies. Vandalvideo

• By and large, MS has been influencing the path of PC gaming on a technical level (DirectX, XNA)
• Most PC gaming occurs under a ms platform (windows) regardless of who made the actual chip.
• MS is developing the main cohesive marketing strategy for the medium

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...cobrax25

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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...cobrax25

doesnt matter, because the pc isnt a platform

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...vistamanV5

OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.shsonline

[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Grive"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Actually, games for windows is a viral marketing campaign PAID FOR by Microsoft. In no way does Microsoft earn royalties from it, and in no way does it make it a Microsoft platform. cobrax25

I'm going in an entirely valid direction for my arguement. I'm using Mr. Console's logic here. He says because the operating system is owned by Microsoft its a Microsoft platform. Well....no. You also need the engine and the hardware in it. Theres a huge difference between consoles and PCs. The console is manufactured by the actual company, while the PC IS NOT MANUFACTURED BY MICROSOFT. The PC is a collaboration of many different companies. Vandalvideo

• By and large, MS has been influencing the path of PC gaming on a technical level (DirectX, XNA)
• Most PC gaming occurs under a ms platform (windows) regardless of who made the actual chip.
• MS is developing the main cohesive marketing strategy for the medium

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...cobrax25

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="RTweaponchange"]

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...vistamanV5

doesnt matter, because the pc isnt a platform

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="RTweaponchange"]

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...vistamanV5

doesnt matter, because the pc isnt a platform

Console Exclusive?  Your kidding now right?  What about FF XI, is that an exclusive title?

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...cobrax25

Really good point, if you go into Bestbuy, most people have a 360 over a high powered gameing PC therefor they would choose the 360 version...vistamanV5

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...vistamanV5

[QUOTE="jbeen"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="jbeen"]

Then why would MS continue to make games for the PC platform then if there is nothing in it for them now that they have the xbox? I gotta figure they are making money somewhere or they would just stop releasing "Games for Windows" all together and consintrate on 360 games.

cobrax25

MS (unlike Sony and Nintendo) made their money, and contiunes to make their money with the PC. They will never turn their backs on the cash cow that is the PC. That is why the line is not as clear between Multi plats that come out on the PC and the 360 and games that come out on the PS3 and the PC or PS3 and the 360. You are right, games that come out on the 360 and the PC are multi plat but it is not as easy to label them as such concidering the link between the 360 and PC is very strong due to MS.

I find it hard to belive that MS does not make money by third party (or second Party) developers making games that play on their operating system but I will take you're word for it as I am not a PC gamer. But I still think MS has muddied the waters of the PC/360 mulit plat thing. I also think it will get even muddier once MS brings the Live anywhere concept where PC and 360 gamers can play "Games for Windows" together online. But for the sake of this argument you are right.

OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.shsonline

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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...vistamanV5

doesnt matter, because the pc isnt a platform

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="jbeen"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="jbeen"]

Then why would MS continue to make games for the PC platform then if there is nothing in it for them now that they have the xbox? I gotta figure they are making money somewhere or they would just stop releasing "Games for Windows" all together and consintrate on 360 games.

jbeen

MS (unlike Sony and Nintendo) made their money, and contiunes to make their money with the PC. They will never turn their backs on the cash cow that is the PC. That is why the line is not as clear between Multi plats that come out on the PC and the 360 and games that come out on the PS3 and the PC or PS3 and the 360. You are right, games that come out on the 360 and the PC are multi plat but it is not as easy to label them as such concidering the link between the 360 and PC is very strong due to MS.

I find it hard to belive that MS does not make money by third party (or second Party) developers making games that play on their operating system but I will take you're word for it as I am not a PC gamer. But I still think MS has muddied the waters of the PC/360 mulit plat thing. I also think it will get even muddier once MS brings the Live anywhere concept where PC and 360 gamers can play "Games for Windows" together online. But for the sake of this argument you are right.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="RTweaponchange"]

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...vistamanV5

doesnt matter, because the pc isnt a platform

If its available on any another platform, its not exclusive.  Console Exclusive is meaningless.  Its like saying Virtua Fighter  is Next gen graphics exclusive since it can only appear on the PS3 and 360 and not the Wii.  Its not exclusive in any way, shape or form.  Its Multiplat.

OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.shsonline

many people choose not to buy a 360 because it shares so many games with the pc. therefore, there is competition.

Bottom line is..... Games on PC and 360 are only on that system therefore it cant be called a exclusive, but its still a great game that is only on those 2 platforms, therefor if you dont own both of these platforms your owned...vistamanV5

Remember that a PC gamer like myself has no reasons to buy an Xbox360...because of the fact that most of its games are or will be on PC...

That is true and again you are not wrong. The only really difference is if you are playing a game on a PC with Windows then MS has already made their money on you whether they make a dime on the game or not. Lemmings argument is MS turned a profit on you're PC gaming exsperience while Sony and Nintendo did not. I also think the Lemmings and Hermits will grow closer toghether over the next few years, but that is just a hunch.

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="Shirley_Temple"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="RTweaponchange"]

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...Shirley_Temple

doesnt matter, because the pc isnt a platform

Console Exclusive?  Your kidding now right?  What about FF XI, is that an exclusive title?

Forgot about the 360 version.  Nevermind, I need a more solid example.

[QUOTE="Shirley_Temple"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="RTweaponchange"]

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...vistamanV5

doesnt matter, because the pc isnt a platform

If its available on any another platform, its not exclusive.  Console Exclusive is meaningless.  Its like saying Virtua Fighter  is Next gen graphics exclusive since it can only appear on the PS3 and 360 and not the Wii.  Its not exclusive in any way, shape or form.  Its Multiplat.

[QUOTE="shsonline"]OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.CaseyWegner

many people choose not to buy a 360 because it shares so many games with the pc. therefore, there is competition.

[QUOTE="shsonline"]OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.CaseyWegner

many people choose not to buy a 360 because it shares so many games with the pc. therefore, there is competition.

Lets be real here Casey in the real world, x360 is only in competition PS3 and Wii... If PC was in the mix for competition MS would limit there games on one platform.... Most people (people not on SW) view X360 and PS3 and Wii, as the consoles competition...vistamanV5

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[QUOTE="shsonline"]OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.vistamanV5

many people choose not to buy a 360 because it shares so many games with the pc. therefore, there is competition.

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="shsonline"]OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.cobrax25

many people choose not to buy a 360 because it shares so many games with the pc. therefore, there is competition.

Who is in charge of the games division for Microsoft. Is it the same man in charge of 360.ps3-nikita

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[QUOTE="shsonline"]OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.vistamanV5

many people choose not to buy a 360 because it shares so many games with the pc. therefore, there is competition.