PC & 360 Exclusive or not?
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I think this is the point. If you are palying the game on the PC you had to pay for the OS, wich means MS made money on you're gaming exsperience. If you bought a 360, again you are paying MS for the privlage to play games. Lemmings argument is MS is profiting on you playing the games one way or the other so MS wins. I think it is stupid to want a company that has more money then eveyone on this site right now combined to make more money but that is the argument.jbeenPlease don't go on to say that its a Microsoft platform because of this. What about the royalties paid to engine makers from individual purchases or what about the money made by the hardware manufacturers when you purchase their stuff? Does that mean you can infer its their platform as well?
Explain does exclusive Microsoft Sony.Nemme
I've been sitting here trying to wrap my head around what the Hell this post means and I think I broke a blood vessel.
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="shsonline"]OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.vistamanV5
many people choose not to buy a 360 because it shares so many games with the pc. therefore, there is competition.
Lets be real here Casey in the real world, x360 is only in competition PS3 and Wii... If PC was in the mix for competition MS would limit there games on one platform.... Most people (people not on SW) view X360 and PS3 and Wii, as the consoles competition... exactly the competition for PC is linux and mac. their the one that pose a real threat to PC. i have a 360 and i plan on upgrading my PC later on for gaming. my 360 wont stop me from upgrading my PC since some games on pc are coming to 360. so if its ps3 & pc only its exclusive. if its PC & 360 only its Exclusive. If its PS3 & 360 only its multi-plat. if its PC & Mac its multi-plat.a PC doesn't count as a console so the games on it are truly unique. therefore Halo is exclusive to Xbox even though it's still on PC. because Halo on Xbox on PC can be modified and xbox version can not. the Xbox Version will always be the same game but on PC it may change cue to patches. So if there a pc game on mac it would also have to be patched at same time as the windows version. So if you hear a games exclusive you know it's the only for 1 console or PC depending on the game.
[QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="shsonline"]OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.alfy13
many people choose not to buy a 360 because it shares so many games with the pc. therefore, there is competition.
Lets be real here Casey in the real world, x360 is only in competition PS3 and Wii... If PC was in the mix for competition MS would limit there games on one platform.... Most people (people not on SW) view X360 and PS3 and Wii, as the consoles competition... i agree with casey. if it was for gears of war i would not have this white box sitting in my living room collecting dust. And alot of 3rd party that make games for 360 also makes games for pc due to them being mostly FPS games. Even though alot of lemmings feel that Mass Effect will onlyh be for the 360 i beg to differ. When Mass effect was first announced it was annouced for the PC and 360. so i highly doubt that it will be only for the 360. There is not enough 360 1st party exclusives for me to own a 360 any longer. Forza 2 looks good, but i think im better off with getting ps3 and play Gt5. but this is just my opinion. alot of my friends who are pc gamers / ps 3 owners makes fun of me for owing a 360 due to games being pc/360 games. 10 million 360 owners as well as many more to come disagree.... In the real world a PC gamer is a PC gamer and console gamer is a console gamer..... A console gamer in the real world only cares if a games is not on another console.... PS3, Wii.... In summary when someone is considering buying a console, it being on the PC does not matter to them.... Now if was on the PS3 or Wii thats different... They only see as 360 the only console that has it.... This forum is a representation of only the ultra hardcore games, which in fact is the smallest type, therefore some people arent getting the bigger picture...[QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="shsonline"]OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.beldugo
many people choose not to buy a 360 because it shares so many games with the pc. therefore, there is competition.
Lets be real here Casey in the real world, x360 is only in competition PS3 and Wii... If PC was in the mix for competition MS would limit there games on one platform.... Most people (people not on SW) view X360 and PS3 and Wii, as the consoles competition... exactly the competition for PC is linux and mac. their the one that pose a real threat to PC. i have a 360 and i plan on upgrading my PC later on for gaming. my 360 wont stop me from upgrading my PC since some games on pc are coming to 360. so if its ps3 & pc only its exclusive. if its PC & 360 only its Exclusive. If its PS3 & 360 only its multi-plat. if its PC & Mac its multi-plat. No a PC is a personal Computer... Not a Windows Computer. a PC is a Mac, Linux, Windows, Novell, or whatever else you can think of.
[QUOTE="Nemme"]Explain does exclusive Microsoft Sony.Buff-McBlumpkin
I've been sitting here trying to wrap my head around what the Hell this post means and I think I broke a blood vessel.
Me too...[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="shsonline"]OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.vistamanV5
many people choose not to buy a 360 because it shares so many games with the pc. therefore, there is competition.
Lets be real here Casey in the real world, x360 is only in competition PS3 and Wii... If PC was in the mix for competition MS would limit there games on one platform.... Most people (people not on SW) view X360 and PS3 and Wii, as the consoles competition... i agree with casey. if it was for gears of war i would not have this white box sitting in my living room collecting dust. And alot of 3rd party that make games for 360 also makes games for pc due to them being mostly FPS games. Even though alot of lemmings feel that Mass Effect will onlyh be for the 360 i beg to differ. When Mass effect was first announced it was annouced for the PC and 360. so i highly doubt that it will be only for the 360. There is not enough 360 1st party exclusives for me to own a 360 any longer. Forza 2 looks good, but i think im better off with getting ps3 and play Gt5. but this is just my opinion. alot of my friends who are pc gamers / ps 3 owners makes fun of me for owing a 360 due to games being pc/360 games. 10 million 360 owners as well as many more to come disagree.... In the real world a PC gamer is a PC gamer and console gamer is a console gamer..... A console gamer in the real world only cares if a games is not on another console.... PS3, Wii.... In summary when someone is considering buying a console, it being on the PC does not matter to them.... Now if was on the PS3 or Wii thats different... They only see as 360 the only console that has it.... This forum is a representation of only the ultra hardcore games, which in fact is the smallest type, therefore some people arent getting the bigger picture... No....Im a PC gamer first, and have a PS2....it does take away sales from Sony's platform thouigh because, someone might have a PC that can run it but not have a Xbox 360 but he has a PS3. he may play it on PC and love it and he may even get a 360 since consoles are more user friendly and if you trade in a PS3 you can probally pay for an Xbox 360.peacebringerJust because a person that buys a pc game and ends up loving does not mean he will go buy a 360 due to user friendly. most likely that pc gamer pretty much knows what he is doing with a pc that user firendly does not even matter.
[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="RTweaponchange"]what if they play it on a PC.....[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...cobrax25
doesnt matter, because the pc isnt a platform
yes it is.... you still have not given a valid reason why its not. PC is not a games console its a gaming platform... There for I can say its a console exclusive, because the other consoles. PS3 and Wii cant play them... In that case all multiplats are now PC exclusive as well. Fair enough? (Sorry for ninjaing your amazing idea Casey) does game on pc? yes because Mac and linux dont get them. A PC is a personal computer. Mac's and Linux are both on Personal Computers. exactly read my first post it says microsoft software runs on 360 and pc. i talked about software not hardware.[QUOTE="vistamanV5"]Here is a better way too do this.... Example Bioshock.... Its exclusive too PC... add( exclusive to microsoft ) And its a console exclusive... people dont want to aknowledge this.[QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...cobrax25what if they play it on a PC.....
Most gamers aren't PC gamers. The sales prove that. Just look at NPD's numbers and you'll see console games sales are far greater than PC game sales (save for a WoW game on occassion). Therefore, the vast majority of gamers aren't PC gamers.
Cows like to hide behind the PC when debating x360 vs PS3 and it needs to stop. Most gamers will perceive a game like Bioshock and exclusive to the x360 because it's not on the PS3 (or Wii).
[QUOTE="peacebringer"]it does take away sales from Sony's platform thouigh because, someone might have a PC that can run it but not have a Xbox 360 but he has a PS3. he may play it on PC and love it and he may even get a 360 since consoles are more user friendly and if you trade in a PS3 you can probally pay for an Xbox 360.alfy13Just because a person that buys a pc game and ends up loving does not mean he will go buy a 360 due to user friendly. most likely that pc gamer pretty much knows what he is doing with a pc that user firendly does not even matter. This whole discussion is way too debatable to ever be truely solved...
what if they play it on a PC.....[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...LosDaddie
Most gamers aren't PC gamers. The sales prove that. Just look at NPD's numbers and you'll see console games sales are far greater than PC game sales (save for a WoW game on occassion). Therefore, the vast majority of gamers aren't PC gamers.
Cows like to hide behind the PC when debating x360 vs PS3 and it needs to stop. Most gamers will perceive a game like Bioshock and exclusive to the x360 because it's not on the PS3 (or Wii).
My god my point exactly, some people really dont get that....[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]what if they play it on a PC.....[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...vistamanV5
Most gamers aren't PC gamers. The sales prove that. Just look at NPD's numbers and you'll see console games sales are far greater than PC game sales (save for a WoW game on occassion). Therefore, the vast majority of gamers aren't PC gamers.
Cows like to hide behind the PC when debating x360 vs PS3 and it needs to stop. Most gamers will perceive a game like Bioshock and exclusive to the x360 because it's not on the PS3 (or Wii).
My god my point exactly, some people really dont get that.... PC gaming sales are actually relatively high and match any individual platform. -_-[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="RTweaponchange"]what if they play it on a PC.....[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...beldugo
doesnt matter, because the pc isnt a platform
yes it is.... you still have not given a valid reason why its not. PC is not a games console its a gaming platform... There for I can say its a console exclusive, because the other consoles. PS3 and Wii cant play them... In that case all multiplats are now PC exclusive as well. Fair enough? (Sorry for ninjaing your amazing idea Casey) does game on pc? yes because Mac and linux dont get them. A PC is a personal computer. Mac's and Linux are both on Personal Computers. exactly read my first post it says microsoft software runs on 360 and pc. i talked about software not hardware.[QUOTE="vistamanV5"]Here is a better way too do this.... Example Bioshock.... Its exclusive too PC... add( exclusive to microsoft ) And its a console exclusive... people dont want to aknowledge this. thats where your incorrect.... MS does not run PC software.. It has no control over it.[QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="shsonline"]OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.alfy13
many people choose not to buy a 360 because it shares so many games with the pc. therefore, there is competition.
Lets be real here Casey in the real world, x360 is only in competition PS3 and Wii... If PC was in the mix for competition MS would limit there games on one platform.... Most people (people not on SW) view X360 and PS3 and Wii, as the consoles competition... i agree with casey. if it was for gears of war i would not have this white box sitting in my living room collecting dust. And alot of 3rd party that make games for 360 also makes games for pc due to them being mostly FPS games. Even though alot of lemmings feel that Mass Effect will onlyh be for the 360 i beg to differ. When Mass effect was first announced it was annouced for the PC and 360. so i highly doubt that it will be only for the 360. There is not enough 360 1st party exclusives for me to own a 360 any longer. Forza 2 looks good, but i think im better off with getting ps3 and play Gt5. but this is just my opinion. alot of my friends who are pc gamers / ps 3 owners makes fun of me for owing a 360 due to games being pc/360 games. When my pc is 100x better then my 360 on performance. 360 is only good for ppl who down own a up to par pc. you contradicted yourself by saying i have a high end pc and have a 360. you did that because you know that your pc doesnt have nothing to do with your 360. let me see you get blue dragon or ninja gaiden 2 on pc since your 360 is useless when you have a pc. and in the end the winner will be MS. its exclusive to their OS.what if they play it on a PC.....[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...LosDaddie
Most gamers aren't PC gamers. The sales prove that. Just look at NPD's numbers and you'll see console games sales are far greater than PC game sales (save for a WoW game on occassion). Therefore, the vast majority of gamers aren't PC gamers.
Cows like to hide behind the PC when debating x360 vs PS3 and it needs to stop. Most gamers will perceive a game like Bioshock and exclusive to the x360 because it's not on the PS3 (or Wii).
you can't assume that because games sell well there more gamers. it's the same gamers buying the games. Console player buy more games. Mostly because console games can be short. a PC game you will play for months and months because of Online. not 100% of titles on Consoles are online and even if it is doesn't mean it's fun. games like Half Life never end and i just downloaded golden EYE source and it's fun and it was free so why would PC gamers go everygame when 1 or 2 is good enough.you know hw much money these developers make off of expansions selling random games on steam ???
10 million 360 owners as well as many more to come disagree.... In the real world a PC gamer is a PC gamer and console gamer is a console gamer..... A console gamer in the real world only cares if a games is not on another console.... PS3, Wii.... In summary when someone is considering buying a console, it being on the PC does not matter to them.... Now if was on the PS3 or Wii thats different... They only see as 360 the only console that has it.... This forum is a representation of only the ultra hardcore games, which in fact is the smallest type, therefore some people arent getting the bigger picture...[QUOTE="vistamanV5"] i agree with casey. if it was for gears of war i would not have this white box sitting in my living room collecting dust. And alot of 3rd party that make games for 360 also makes games for pc due to them being mostly FPS games. Even though alot of lemmings feel that Mass Effect will onlyh be for the 360 i beg to differ. When Mass effect was first announced it was annouced for the PC and 360. so i highly doubt that it will be only for the 360. There is not enough 360 1st party exclusives for me to own a 360 any longer. Forza 2 looks good, but i think im better off with getting ps3 and play Gt5. but this is just my opinion. alot of my friends who are pc gamers / ps 3 owners makes fun of me for owing a 360 due to games being pc/360 games. LosDaddie
Awesome post! I completely agree.
The console and PC gamers are different "animals." It's really a seperate market.
Microsoft said there was 200 million PC gamers. Who do I listen to?[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="shsonline"]OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.beldugo
many people choose not to buy a 360 because it shares so many games with the pc. therefore, there is competition.
Lets be real here Casey in the real world, x360 is only in competition PS3 and Wii... If PC was in the mix for competition MS would limit there games on one platform.... Most people (people not on SW) view X360 and PS3 and Wii, as the consoles competition... i agree with casey. if it was for gears of war i would not have this white box sitting in my living room collecting dust. And alot of 3rd party that make games for 360 also makes games for pc due to them being mostly FPS games. Even though alot of lemmings feel that Mass Effect will onlyh be for the 360 i beg to differ. When Mass effect was first announced it was annouced for the PC and 360. so i highly doubt that it will be only for the 360. There is not enough 360 1st party exclusives for me to own a 360 any longer. Forza 2 looks good, but i think im better off with getting ps3 and play Gt5. but this is just my opinion. alot of my friends who are pc gamers / ps 3 owners makes fun of me for owing a 360 due to games being pc/360 games. When my pc is 100x better then my 360 on performance. 360 is only good for ppl who down own a up to par pc. you contradicted yourself by saying i have a high end pc and have a 360. you did that because you know that your pc doesnt have nothing to do with your 360. let me see you get blue dragon or ninja gaiden 2 on pc since your 360 is useless when you have a pc. and in the end the winner will be MS. its exclusive to their OS. No, for the last time MS does not profit from PC software sales. they do not profit from Games sold on the PC. they do not control them. they do not regulate them.[quote="alfy13"]i agree with casey. if it was for gears of war i would not have this white box sitting in my living room collecting dust. And alot of 3rd party that make games for 360 also makes games for pc due to them being mostly FPS games. Even though alot of lemmings feel that Mass Effect will onlyh be for the 360 i beg to differ. When Mass effect was first announced it was annouced for the PC and 360. so i highly doubt that it will be only for the 360. There is not enough 360 1st party exclusives for me to own a 360 any longer. Forza 2 looks good, but i think im better off with getting ps3 and play Gt5. but this is just my opinion. alot of my friends who are pc gamers / ps 3 owners makes fun of me for owing a 360 due to games being pc/360 games. vistamanV510 million 360 owners as well as many more to come disagree.... In the real world a PC gamer is a PC gamer and console gamer is a console gamer..... A console gamer in the real world only cares if a games is not on another console.... PS3, Wii.... In summary when someone is considering buying a console, it being on the PC does not matter to them.... Now if was on the PS3 or Wii thats different... They only see as 360 the only console that has it.... This forum is a representation of only the ultra hardcore games, which in fact is the smallest type, therefore some people arent getting the bigger picture...
Awesome post! I completely agree.
The console and PC gamers are different "animals." It's really a seperate market.
[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="shsonline"]OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.beldugo
many people choose not to buy a 360 because it shares so many games with the pc. therefore, there is competition.
Lets be real here Casey in the real world, x360 is only in competition PS3 and Wii... If PC was in the mix for competition MS would limit there games on one platform.... Most people (people not on SW) view X360 and PS3 and Wii, as the consoles competition... i agree with casey. if it was for gears of war i would not have this white box sitting in my living room collecting dust. And alot of 3rd party that make games for 360 also makes games for pc due to them being mostly FPS games. Even though alot of lemmings feel that Mass Effect will onlyh be for the 360 i beg to differ. When Mass effect was first announced it was annouced for the PC and 360. so i highly doubt that it will be only for the 360. There is not enough 360 1st party exclusives for me to own a 360 any longer. Forza 2 looks good, but i think im better off with getting ps3 and play Gt5. but this is just my opinion. alot of my friends who are pc gamers / ps 3 owners makes fun of me for owing a 360 due to games being pc/360 games. When my pc is 100x better then my 360 on performance. 360 is only good for ppl who down own a up to par pc. you contradicted yourself by saying i have a high end pc and have a 360. you did that because you know that your pc doesnt have nothing to do with your 360. let me see you get blue dragon or ninja gaiden 2 on pc since your 360 is useless when you have a pc. and in the end the winner will be MS. its exclusive to their OS. taht is my point. BLue Dragon is not enough for me to keep my 360, and ninja gaiden is not a game i really care for. i mean if i didnt care for it when i had it on the xbox, why would i care for iit now? Lost Odessey looks way to boring to even consider. but like hey if those games make you happy /clap for you. but those games are not enough for me to keep my 360 when 90% of them games for the 360 is pretty much pc /360.bottom line is, my 360 collects dust. until MS comes out with only 360 games not pc /360 games, then my 360 will contiunue to collect dust. I only own 3 games, Lost Planet, Gears of War and Dead rising. Now im sorry but 400 dollars for 3 games is pretty much paper weight in my eyes. Now do not get me wrong, 360 is a good system. but if i have a pc that is 100x better then my 360 i think im better off wiht out it, and get something else as a console.
[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]10 million 360 owners as well as many more to come disagree.... In the real world a PC gamer is a PC gamer and console gamer is a console gamer..... A console gamer in the real world only cares if a games is not on another console.... PS3, Wii.... In summary when someone is considering buying a console, it being on the PC does not matter to them.... Now if was on the PS3 or Wii thats different... They only see as 360 the only console that has it.... This forum is a representation of only the ultra hardcore games, which in fact is the smallest type, therefore some people arent getting the bigger picture...[QUOTE="vistamanV5"] i agree with casey. if it was for gears of war i would not have this white box sitting in my living room collecting dust. And alot of 3rd party that make games for 360 also makes games for pc due to them being mostly FPS games. Even though alot of lemmings feel that Mass Effect will onlyh be for the 360 i beg to differ. When Mass effect was first announced it was annouced for the PC and 360. so i highly doubt that it will be only for the 360. There is not enough 360 1st party exclusives for me to own a 360 any longer. Forza 2 looks good, but i think im better off with getting ps3 and play Gt5. but this is just my opinion. alot of my friends who are pc gamers / ps 3 owners makes fun of me for owing a 360 due to games being pc/360 games. Vandalvideo
Awesome post! I completely agree.
The console and PC gamers are different "animals." It's really a seperate market.
Microsoft said there was 200 million PC gamers. Who do I listen to? but what do you think of what he said though? "In the real world a PC gamer is a PC gamer and console gamer is a console gamer." dont you agree with this? this is like the base of my argument.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] PC gaming sales are actually relatively high and match any individual platform. -_-LosDaddie
Other than WoW, was there any PC game that matched Gears' sales?
In fact, I'd love for you post some PC game sales chart in comparison to console game sales.
You don't seem to be understanding something though. The attach ratio for a console is much higher. Just because more units were pushed does not mean that there are more console gamers by any stretch of imagination. PC games last longer than the average console game, and PC gamers tend to not buy as many titles as console gamers do because of this. PC sales are not indicative of the overall PC market by any stretch of the imagination as you so casually prcolaimed.bottom line is, my 360 collects dust. until MS comes out with only 360 games not pc /360 games, then my 360 will contiunue to collect dust. alfy13
Bottom line is that I own the PSWii60 and my PS3 collects dust. The x360 is a far more capable gaming machine.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] PC gaming sales are actually relatively high and match any individual platform. -_-LosDaddie
Other than WoW, was there any PC game that matched Gears' sales?
In fact, I'd love for you post some PC game sales chart in comparison to console game sales.
reasonably hard, seeing as digital distribution is hard to count.[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]what if they play it on a PC.....[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...peacebringer
Most gamers aren't PC gamers. The sales prove that. Just look at NPD's numbers and you'll see console games sales are far greater than PC game sales (save for a WoW game on occassion). Therefore, the vast majority of gamers aren't PC gamers.
Cows like to hide behind the PC when debating x360 vs PS3 and it needs to stop. Most gamers will perceive a game like Bioshock and exclusive to the x360 because it's not on the PS3 (or Wii).
you can't assume that because games sell well there more gamers. it's the same gamers buying the games. Console player buy more games. Mostly because console games can be short. a PC game you will play for months and months because of Online. not 100% of titles on Consoles are online and even if it is doesn't mean it's fun. games like Half Life never end and i just downloaded golden EYE source and it's fun and it was free so why would PC gamers go everygame when 1 or 2 is good enough.you know hw much money these developers make off of expansions selling random games on steam ???
Thanks for backing up my argument! :D
Console games have far greater sales than PC games. Just look at any NPD figure.
[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="shsonline"]OK, here's the ONLY thing that matters. The PC is not in competition with the 360, or any other console for that matter. Maybe here in system wars, but not outside in the real world. Outside in the real world, if a game is on one console but not the others, it is an exclusive. Until someone can tell me how being on PC and 360 diminishes its importance with being on only ONE console, then arguing about a game being available on PC is like arguing about a game being available on cell phone.alfy13
many people choose not to buy a 360 because it shares so many games with the pc. therefore, there is competition.
Lets be real here Casey in the real world, x360 is only in competition PS3 and Wii... If PC was in the mix for competition MS would limit there games on one platform.... Most people (people not on SW) view X360 and PS3 and Wii, as the consoles competition... i agree with casey. if it was for gears of war i would not have this white box sitting in my living room collecting dust. And alot of 3rd party that make games for 360 also makes games for pc due to them being mostly FPS games. Even though alot of lemmings feel that Mass Effect will onlyh be for the 360 i beg to differ. When Mass effect was first announced it was annouced for the PC and 360. so i highly doubt that it will be only for the 360. There is not enough 360 1st party exclusives for me to own a 360 any longer. Forza 2 looks good, but i think im better off with getting ps3 and play Gt5. but this is just my opinion. alot of my friends who are pc gamers / ps 3 owners makes fun of me for owing a 360 due to games being pc/360 games. When my pc is 100x better then my 360 on performance. 360 is only good for ppl who down own a up to par pc. you contradicted yourself by saying i have a high end pc and have a 360. you did that because you know that your pc doesnt have nothing to do with your 360. let me see you get blue dragon or ninja gaiden 2 on pc since your 360 is useless when you have a pc. and in the end the winner will be MS. its exclusive to their OS. taht is my point. BLue Dragon is not enough for me to keep my 360, and ninja gaiden is not a game i really care for. i mean if i didnt care for it when i had it on the xbox, why would i care for iit now? Lost Odessey looks way to boring to even consider. but like hey if those games make you happy /clap for you. but those games are not enough for me to keep my 360 when 90% of them games for the 360 is pretty much pc /360.bottom line is, my 360 collects dust. until MS comes out with only 360 games not pc /360 games, then my 360 will contiunue to collect dust.
thats your opinion. your entitle to say your opinion but not the others. you and your friends are saying others opinion by saying if you have pc, 360 is useless when thats not the case. they are not a direct competitor if anything they are more attach to each other than ps3 and nintendo. last time i check my windows media center can connect to my 360. and i use windows media center to play games. my 360 is great and my pc is great if PC gets Halo 3 i wont care.. if final fantasy 13 makes it to 360 i would care :D .[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] PC gaming sales are actually relatively high and match any individual platform. -_-LosDaddie
Other than WoW, was there any PC game that matched Gears' sales?
In fact, I'd love for you post some PC game sales chart in comparison to console game sales.
Here you go: http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] PC gaming sales are actually relatively high and match any individual platform. -_-LosDaddie
Other than WoW, was there any PC game that matched Gears' sales?
In fact, I'd love for you post some PC game sales chart in comparison to console game sales.
Adventure - Myst (6 million)
FPS - Half-Life (8 million)
RPG - Diablo II (15 million)
RTS - Starcraft (9.5 million)
Simulation - The Sims (16 million)
http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.phpEzgam3r
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] PC gaming sales are actually relatively high and match any individual platform. -_-Vandalvideo
Other than WoW, was there any PC game that matched Gears' sales?
In fact, I'd love for you post some PC game sales chart in comparison to console game sales.
You don't seem to be understanding something though. The attach ratio for a console is much higher. Just because more units were pushed does not mean that there are more console gamers by any stretch of imagination. PC games last longer than the average console game, and PC gamers tend to not buy as many titles as console gamers do because of this. PC sales are not indicative of the overall PC market by any stretch of the imagination as you so casually prcolaimed.SAles do show what platform gamers are likely to buy a game for though. That's the point you fail to understand.
Any game released on both the console & PC will have far greater sales on the console.
[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] PC gaming sales are actually relatively high and match any individual platform. -_-Ezgam3r
Other than WoW, was there any PC game that matched Gears' sales?
In fact, I'd love for you post some PC game sales chart in comparison to console game sales.
Here you go: http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php lol you just prove his point. look at the #1 game its a console game. now which game sold more than super mario bros?his point is that console sell more games and he is right.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] PC gaming sales are actually relatively high and match any individual platform. -_-LosDaddie
Other than WoW, was there any PC game that matched Gears' sales?
In fact, I'd love for you post some PC game sales chart in comparison to console game sales.
You don't seem to be understanding something though. The attach ratio for a console is much higher. Just because more units were pushed does not mean that there are more console gamers by any stretch of imagination. PC games last longer than the average console game, and PC gamers tend to not buy as many titles as console gamers do because of this. PC sales are not indicative of the overall PC market by any stretch of the imagination as you so casually prcolaimed.SAles do show what platform gamers are likely to buy a game for though. That's the point you fail to understand.
Any game released on both the console & PC will have far greater sales on the console.
Yes, and your point is? How is this even relevant to the discussion at hand?[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] PC gaming sales are actually relatively high and match any individual platform. -_-gmastersexay
Other than WoW, was there any PC game that matched Gears' sales?
In fact, I'd love for you post some PC game sales chart in comparison to console game sales.
Adventure - Myst (6 million)
FPS - Half-Life (8 million)
RPG - Diablo II (15 million)
RTS - Starcraft (9.5 million)
Simulation - The Sims (16 million)
I meant in 2006.
[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]what if they play it on a PC.....[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]While its not literal exclusive, it still can be used as "ownage" to sheep and cows cause they in no way shape or form play it on there console of choice...LosDaddie
Most gamers aren't PC gamers. The sales prove that. Just look at NPD's numbers and you'll see console games sales are far greater than PC game sales (save for a WoW game on occassion). Therefore, the vast majority of gamers aren't PC gamers.
Cows like to hide behind the PC when debating x360 vs PS3 and it needs to stop. Most gamers will perceive a game like Bioshock and exclusive to the x360 because it's not on the PS3 (or Wii).
you can't assume that because games sell well there more gamers. it's the same gamers buying the games. Console player buy more games. Mostly because console games can be short. a PC game you will play for months and months because of Online. not 100% of titles on Consoles are online and even if it is doesn't mean it's fun. games like Half Life never end and i just downloaded golden EYE source and it's fun and it was free so why would PC gamers go everygame when 1 or 2 is good enough.you know hw much money these developers make off of expansions selling random games on steam ???
Thanks for backing up my argument! :D
Console games have far greater sales than PC games. Just look at any NPD figure.
but Theres still more PC gamers. 10 million xbox 360 sold. over 250 million pc worldwide capable of Half Life 2[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] PC gaming sales are actually relatively high and match any individual platform. -_-beldugo
Other than WoW, was there any PC game that matched Gears' sales?
In fact, I'd love for you post some PC game sales chart in comparison to console game sales.
Here you go: http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php lol you just prove his point. look at the #1 game its a console game. now which game sold more than super mario bros?his point is that console sell more games and he is right. Do I care? No. He asked for a list and I gave it to him. W/E you guys are rambling about is your business.[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] PC gaming sales are actually relatively high and match any individual platform. -_-Vandalvideo
Other than WoW, was there any PC game that matched Gears' sales?
In fact, I'd love for you post some PC game sales chart in comparison to console game sales.
You don't seem to be understanding something though. The attach ratio for a console is much higher. Just because more units were pushed does not mean that there are more console gamers by any stretch of imagination. PC games last longer than the average console game, and PC gamers tend to not buy as many titles as console gamers do because of this. PC sales are not indicative of the overall PC market by any stretch of the imagination as you so casually prcolaimed.SAles do show what platform gamers are likely to buy a game for though. That's the point you fail to understand.
Any game released on both the console & PC will have far greater sales on the console.
Yes, and your point is? How is this even relevant to the discussion at hand?:lol:
Have you even been following the discussion? :roll: Pay attention.
The point that gamers are far more likely to buy the console version than the PC version. The sales prove that.
Therefore, the PC has no relevance in an x360 vs PS3 debates.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] PC gaming sales are actually relatively high and match any individual platform. -_-LosDaddie
Other than WoW, was there any PC game that matched Gears' sales?
In fact, I'd love for you post some PC game sales chart in comparison to console game sales.
You don't seem to be understanding something though. The attach ratio for a console is much higher. Just because more units were pushed does not mean that there are more console gamers by any stretch of imagination. PC games last longer than the average console game, and PC gamers tend to not buy as many titles as console gamers do because of this. PC sales are not indicative of the overall PC market by any stretch of the imagination as you so casually prcolaimed.SAles do show what platform gamers are likely to buy a game for though. That's the point you fail to understand.
Any game released on both the console & PC will have far greater sales on the console.
HL2 is on both PC and Consoles. HL2 sold more on the consoles? I don't think so.[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]but Theres still more PC gamers. 10 million xbox 360 sold. over 250 million pc worldwide capable of Half Life 2Console games have far greater sales than PC games. Just look at any NPD figure.
peacebringer
And just how many copies of HL2 have been sold?
This argument is why I like the term console exclusive. IMO, even after playing HL2, FFXI, EQ, and EQII the PC is a non entitiy. dru26Then all multiplats are PC exclusive as well.
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