PC & 360 Exclusive or not?

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#201 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="beldugo"]

both run microsoft software.
one is game console or enterntainment system, the other is a Personal computer (PC).

if lets say Halo 3 releases for PC and 360. who is the one at lose? the 360 or pc? or the other console that will never get it? like Sony, NES and Mac.

its funny when people dont call does game exclusive when their both running on microsoft software not on sony, nintendo, linux, or mac software.

if you dont think does are call exclusive explain.

Illumination77



If a game come sout on 360 AND PC it is still 360 exclusive because the PC market has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the console market. They are 2 COMPLETELY Different audiences. Why do you think all sales charts are top 10 all formats & then  top 10 PC seperatly? Besides PC gamers look down on ALL consoles as dumbed down kiddy crap, even xbox.



Besides if 360 & PC no longer counts as 360 exclusive then Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid & Devil May Cry can no longer be called playstation exclusives because they have ALL seen pc releases so you can no logner sure that ps3 is the ONLY place to play those games because many past, playstation exclusive, entires in those serieses are also available on PC. Now should I buy DMC3 for $29.99 on ps2 or $14.99 on PC? MGS2:subsistence DVD-rom only on PC, $14.99 new. Just some examples.

In that case its also PC exclusive.
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#202 beldugo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Beldugo: So you just acknowledged your logic was flawed saying that just because you play on Microsoft software its a microsoft platform?

how can my logic be flawed if i said the same thing i said on my 1st post kinda only different wording. i still said its exclusive to MS. the only way your gonna play bioshock is if you pay microsoft. or proove me wrong by playing it on Wii, ps3 as of now :b, and mac.
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#203 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="RTweaponchange"]

the pc is not a platform

games like Bioshock are exclusive in my eyes and their is nothing you can do that will change my mind. Reality is whatever a person conceives it to be, even if that reality is a false illusion. You guys are just wasting your time with this

RTweaponchange

yes it is. i played on one this morning. :|

platform : a group of compatible computers that can run the same software.

sorry, but not all computers can run the same software. Thats why the pc isnt a platform but the xbox 360 is

i just closed this thread

Fine. The 360 isn't a platform either. I can't run the same software on any 360, since there's region locking. Do you see how stupid this is?
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#204 Hewkii
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Besides if 360 & PC no longer counts as 360 exclusive then Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid & Devil May Cry can no longer be called playstation exclusives because they have ALL seen pc releases so you can no logner sure that ps3 is the ONLY place to play those games because many past, playstation exclusive, entires in those serieses are also available on PC. Now should I buy DMC3 for $29.99 on ps2 or $14.99 on PC? MGS2:subsistence DVD-rom only on PC, $14.99 new. Just some examples.

Illumination77
the latest FFs (bar XI) haven't been on the PC, neither has MGS3.
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#205 Teuf_
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If a game come sout on 360 AND PC it is still 360 exclusive because the PC market has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the console market. They are 2 COMPLETELY Different audiences. Why do you think all sales charts are top 10 all formats & then top 10 PC seperatly? Besides PC gamers look down on ALL consoles as dumbed down kiddy crap, even xbox.

Illumination77


Your attempt at a counter-argument is merely a few generalizations lumped together.   A game can't be exclusive and be on multiple platforms, regardless of what overlap there is between the audiences.

Besides if 360 & PC no longer counts as 360 exclusive then Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid & Devil May Cry can no longer be called playstation exclusives because they have ALL seen pc releases so you can no logner sure that ps3 is the ONLY place to play those games because many past, playstation exclusive, entires in those serieses are also available on PC. Now should I buy DMC3 for $29.99 on ps2 or $14.99 on PC? MGS2:subsistence DVD-rom only on PC, $14.99 new. Just some examples.

Illumination77


You're right, they're not exclusives.  And one of your examples, MGS2, isn't even exclusive as far as consoles are concerned.
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#206 Vandalvideo
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Beldugo: You do realize by saying its "exclusive to microsoft" using your logic I can say its "exclusive to ID/EPIC/CREATIVE/NVIDIA and about twenty other companies" right? In such a case, wouldn't that mean it really isn't "exclusive to microsoft" but "exclusive to about twenty companies"?
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#207 Ezgam3r
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[QUOTE="RTweaponchange"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="RTweaponchange"]

the pc is not a platform

games like Bioshock are exclusive in my eyes and their is nothing you can do that will change my mind. Reality is whatever a person conceives it to be, even if that reality is a false illusion. You guys are just wasting your time with this

Danm_999

yes it is. i played on one this morning. :|

platform : a group of compatible computers that can run the same software.

sorry, but not all computers can run the same software. Thats why the pc isnt a platform but the xbox 360 is

i just closed this thread

Fine. The 360 isn't a platform either. I can't run the same software on any 360, since there's region locking. Do you see how stupid this is?

I didn't even think of that. Nice :)
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#208 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Beldugo: So you just acknowledged your logic was flawed saying that just because you play on Microsoft software its a microsoft platform? beldugo
how can my logic be flawed if i said the same thing i said on my 1st post kinda only different wording. i still said its exclusive to MS. the only way your gonna play bioshock is if you pay microsoft. or proove me wrong by playing it on Wii, ps3 as of now :b, and mac.

why do you keep talking about who gets paid? it's 100% irrelevent.

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#209 beldugo
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[QUOTE="Illumination77"][QUOTE="beldugo"]

both run microsoft software.
one is game console or enterntainment system, the other is a Personal computer (PC).

if lets say Halo 3 releases for PC and 360. who is the one at lose? the 360 or pc? or the other console that will never get it? like Sony, NES and Mac.

its funny when people dont call does game exclusive when their both running on microsoft software not on sony, nintendo, linux, or mac software.

if you dont think does are call exclusive explain.

Vandalvideo



If a game come sout on 360 AND PC it is still 360 exclusive because the PC market has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the console market. They are 2 COMPLETELY Different audiences. Why do you think all sales charts are top 10 all formats & then  top 10 PC seperatly? Besides PC gamers look down on ALL consoles as dumbed down kiddy crap, even xbox.



Besides if 360 & PC no longer counts as 360 exclusive then Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid & Devil May Cry can no longer be called playstation exclusives because they have ALL seen pc releases so you can no logner sure that ps3 is the ONLY place to play those games because many past, playstation exclusive, entires in those serieses are also available on PC. Now should I buy DMC3 for $29.99 on ps2 or $14.99 on PC? MGS2:subsistence DVD-rom only on PC, $14.99 new. Just some examples.

In that case its also PC exclusive.

woooooooo now he understand. we have to kill 2 cows (real animal cows) to celebrate.
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#210 Hewkii
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they should call higher rated multiplat games on certain consoles AAA! instead of AAA, to differentiate the twoskixwolf
that is similar to what lemmings tried last year, it was the higher scoring one was exclusive.
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#211 beldugo
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="RTweaponchange"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="RTweaponchange"]

the pc is not a platform

games like Bioshock are exclusive in my eyes and their is nothing you can do that will change my mind. Reality is whatever a person conceives it to be, even if that reality is a false illusion. You guys are just wasting your time with this

Ezgam3r

yes it is. i played on one this morning. :|

platform : a group of compatible computers that can run the same software.

sorry, but not all computers can run the same software. Thats why the pc isnt a platform but the xbox 360 is

i just closed this thread

Fine. The 360 isn't a platform either. I can't run the same software on any 360, since there's region locking. Do you see how stupid this is?

I didn't even think of that. Nice :)

but you can with does region unlock cds forgot their name. i played japanese games and european games on my ps2 and gamecube even though they have region lock.

[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Beldugo: So you just acknowledged your logic was flawed saying that just because you play on Microsoft software its a microsoft platform? CaseyWegner

how can my logic be flawed if i said the same thing i said on my 1st post kinda only different wording. i still said its exclusive to MS. the only way your gonna play bioshock is if you pay microsoft. or proove me wrong by playing it on Wii, ps3 as of now :b, and mac.

why do you keep talking about who gets paid? it's 100% irrelevent.

i know its irrelevant but it had to be in order to answer his question. point is it still exclusive to microsoft aslong as when it comes to windows, linux and mac dont get it. and when it comes to consoles ps3 and wii dont get it.
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#212 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="beldugo"] but you can with does region unlock cds forgot their name. i played japanese games and european games on my ps2 and gamecube even though they have region lock. .

And with just as much effort (probably less since it's legal), I can have any software on my PC. So we remain at the junction either both PC and 360 are platforms, or neither are platforms.
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#213 Vandalvideo
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Beldugo: Stop ignoring the faults of that logic. By saying its Microsoft exclusive because you use the OS you have to say its ID/EPIC/VALVE/CREATIVE/NVIDIA exclusive as well because it uses their software to run too. In which case, its not realyl exclusive to Microsoft anymore IS IT?! Its exclusive to about twenty companies.
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#214 dru26
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[QUOTE="dru26"]The Vista/Xbox Live connection will I gather ,erase all exclusives to the Xbox 360, in the future? I always thought the system war was designated between Sony, MS, and Nintendo.. I want to play games in my living room, not behind a monitor in my office. Is this rediculous thread just to prove that Sony has more "exclusives" ?Vandalvideo
Please don't be implying that the PC can't be hooked up to a TV and played from a couch with a gamepad, because it sure can.

Lol no, I know you can play PC games in the living room, but it isn't an option everyone has access to.
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#215 beldugo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Beldugo: You do realize by saying its "exclusive to microsoft" using your logic I can say its "exclusive to ID/EPIC/CREATIVE/NVIDIA and about twenty other companies" right? In such a case, wouldn't that mean it really isn't "exclusive to microsoft" but "exclusive to about twenty companies"?

yea then its exclusive to 20 different companies. only thing is the rival plataform wont get it and in the end microsoft wins. you get it too?
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#216 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Beldugo: You do realize by saying its "exclusive to microsoft" using your logic I can say its "exclusive to ID/EPIC/CREATIVE/NVIDIA and about twenty other companies" right? In such a case, wouldn't that mean it really isn't "exclusive to microsoft" but "exclusive to about twenty companies"?

yea then its exclusive to 20 different companies. only thing is the rival plataform wont get it and in the end microsoft wins. you get it too?

Microsft....................and twenty other companies win. SO its not really "Exclusive to microsoft" is it? Its an entirely seperate platform.
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#217 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="dru26"]The Vista/Xbox Live connection will I gather ,erase all exclusives to the Xbox 360, in the future? I always thought the system war was designated between Sony, MS, and Nintendo.. I want to play games in my living room, not behind a monitor in my office. Is this rediculous thread just to prove that Sony has more "exclusives" ?dru26
Please don't be implying that the PC can't be hooked up to a TV and played from a couch with a gamepad, because it sure can.

Lol no, I know you can play PC games in the living room, but it isn't an option everyone has access to.

Its extermely easy to do so. -_- Eveyone can easily do it.
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#218 Hewkii
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[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Beldugo: You do realize by saying its "exclusive to microsoft" using your logic I can say its "exclusive to ID/EPIC/CREATIVE/NVIDIA and about twenty other companies" right? In such a case, wouldn't that mean it really isn't "exclusive to microsoft" but "exclusive to about twenty companies"?

yea then its exclusive to 20 different companies. only thing is the rival plataform wont get it and in the end microsoft wins. you get it too?

the rival platform will get it. for example, if you use an 8800 GTX, you will be aiding Nvidia, and the PS3. if you use a x1900xtx, you will be supporting ATI, and therefore the Wii.
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#219 Ezgam3r
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beldugo: You've back yourself into a corner and your only choices are to accept that 1+1=/= 1 and that a 360/PC game isn't a 360 or microsoft exclusive or wallow in your own ignorance. Your choice
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#220 beldugo
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="beldugo"] but you can with does region unlock cds forgot their name. i played japanese games and european games on my ps2 and gamecube even though they have region lock. .

And with just as much effort (probably less since it's legal), I can have any software on my PC. So we remain at the junction either both PC and 360 are platforms, or neither are platforms.

can you play 360 games on xbox with an emulator? can you burn a cd on 360? pc are not consoles hehe. i think thats the confusion we are having on this thread. if we can agree that PC are not console everyone would understand. anyways i have to go (am at work). anyone want to discuss some more you can get me on xbox live :b . i wont check thread till tomorrow.
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#221 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="beldugo"] but you can with does region unlock cds forgot their name. i played japanese games and european games on my ps2 and gamecube even though they have region lock. .

And with just as much effort (probably less since it's legal), I can have any software on my PC. So we remain at the junction either both PC and 360 are platforms, or neither are platforms.

can you play 360 games on xbox with an emulator? can you burn a cd on 360? pc are not consoles hehe. i think thats the confusion we are having on this thread. if we can agree that PC are not console everyone would understand. anyways i have to go (am at work). anyone want to discuss some more you can get me on xbox live :b . i wont check thread till tomorrow.

My only issue was to a guy saying that since you cannot use every piece of PC software on a PC, it's not a platform. I was only pointing out, despite being a blantantly wrong way to classify a system it can be levelled in a stupid manner against consoles too.
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#222 beldugo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Beldugo: You do realize by saying its "exclusive to microsoft" using your logic I can say its "exclusive to ID/EPIC/CREATIVE/NVIDIA and about twenty other companies" right? In such a case, wouldn't that mean it really isn't "exclusive to microsoft" but "exclusive to about twenty companies"?

yea then its exclusive to 20 different companies. only thing is the rival plataform wont get it and in the end microsoft wins. you get it too?

Microsft....................and twenty other companies win. SO its not really "Exclusive to microsoft" is it? Its an entirely seperate platform.

seperate plataform called windows. get me on xbox live if you have im gone for the day.
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#223 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Beldugo: You do realize by saying its "exclusive to microsoft" using your logic I can say its "exclusive to ID/EPIC/CREATIVE/NVIDIA and about twenty other companies" right? In such a case, wouldn't that mean it really isn't "exclusive to microsoft" but "exclusive to about twenty companies"?

yea then its exclusive to 20 different companies. only thing is the rival plataform wont get it and in the end microsoft wins. you get it too?

Microsft....................and twenty other companies win. SO its not really "Exclusive to microsoft" is it? Its an entirely seperate platform.

seperate plataform called windows. get me on xbox live if you have im gone for the day.

Seperate platform called Nvidia, seperate platform called craetive, seperate platform called kingston, seperate platform called source, seperate paltform called epic, seperate platform called ID. Same logic.
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#224 peacebringer
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[QUOTE="peacebringer"] [QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Console games have far greater sales than PC games. Just look at any NPD figure.

LosDaddie

but Theres still more PC gamers. 10 million xbox 360 sold. over 250 million pc worldwide capable of Half Life 2

And just how many copies of HL2 have been sold?

over 15 million and the majority were PC platform because the number 1  game to mod on your PC is half Life. Golden Eye source wich was a free mod is really cool but will never see a console because the mod was made by fans at home. so who wins? me and my PC