PC gamers:U$299 PC vs Xbox One / $198 PC vs past gen console

@leandrro: Well perhaps you may just be blind? Go play Heavenly sword and then try out God of War Ascension and tell me there wasn't massive leaps?

Spend the money elsewhere.

sure there was significant leaps, just play battlefield modern combat on x360 than play battlefield 3, its like ps2 vs ps3

but its software optimization, all the optimization they did in battlefield works the same on PC the same way all improvements in PS3 games would be the same in 7 years old PC hardware if you could run then on pc, hardware optimization is the myth, not software optimization

hardware optimization is a lie created to make you pay for overpriced console hardware and they make you believe it by showing software optimization that benefits both pc and console hardware

tomb raider on ps4 had 50% of all features that made PC version so superior cut because ps4 was too slow for it

r7 260x will run dr3 and it will be much better than on x1, just like it is now with watchdogs and cod ghosts

if youre that strapped for cash, gaming isnt for you

@leandrro: You just randomly make Shit up? It lost tesselation in favor of better lighting, particle effects and dynamic environments.

And if hardware optimization is a myth why do all Assassin Creeds, skyrim, BF3 or any other games that came out in the past 5 years not even run on a 7800gs. Also console hardware is hardly overpriced when they usually take a loss on the hardware.

I hate to sound mean, but please go learn some basic business,finance, or accounting. This price comparison makes NO sense at all and it is hard to get started with breaking down the stupidity or ignorance of your post. You cannot spend near $400 and say well it comes with $99-$150 worth of games so it's really like spending $199-$299. The fact is you're spending $500 regardless of whether it's a good deal or a bad one. You are -500 regardless of the value of the extra content.

On a side topic that is a terrible computer. I'd rather buy an xbox one than own that POS. Even if that POS really sold for 299 and I was on a budget.

you might go argue with digital foundry, they basically said that PC version is superior in all respects

they dont run in 7800gs just because of dx9, but they do on a dx10 card like 8800gs, and it still surpass ps3 1,5 to 1 just like it would do if there was zero optimization on ps3 hardware

to check how consoles are overpriced check the digital foundry pc from 2010/2011

Who the **** would build a $299 PC? People who know how to build them would certainly spend 3-4 times that if not more and for the people who don't, would get something prebuilt that costs more than that too.

Not to mention "this means i did not include a full priced windows 7 licence that would add up to $384"

What a fucking joke.

thats exactly what i said, youre agreeing with me, learn to read please

also calling this build a POS implies youre also calling gamepot's build also a POS, maybe you can present us all with a better performance per dollar build?

$299 PC lolwut

Behold! the glorious PC-master-race 2012's U$300 budget PC build

it was next gen for me in 2012 for only $300, ohh hapiness...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjXGXfc3rbY&list=PLUA_CK7guz95NIdgn4Omh0BniWOxjr2Jj

so you're saying people who have a choice between the 2 should build their own $300 PC? LOL

the 2 what? between x1 and a 299 PC? sure i would go for the PC, battlefield with joysticks is simply stupid

Sorry you spent $300, might as well not even bothered..lol

this is my old and much weaker $300 pc from 2012, this 299 in the topic ir much faster

1gb gpu would stutter like mad on xbone equivalent settings.

Gamespot at least used a cpu that looks to have more longevity than the dual core and they use a 2gb gpu. Even their system will be below min reqs on games soon. Neither pc will have a chance in hell of running the first true next gen multiplat Arkham Knight. I don't count Dead Rising 3 since it was rushed for release and isn't taking full advantage of xbones power.

You get what you pay for... discussion based around building a cheaper/cheaper PC than a console is simply that. No serious gamer who can afford otherwise would willingly limit themselves.

I don't think I have seen another thread with such a high BS/fallacy to logical argument ratio. There are seriously about 2-3 posts in this thread that don't reek of challenged synapses.

When did GS become the next GameFAQs?

Skip the Diablotek PSU. I have a 750w Diablotek PSU. It can handle an HD 5770 just fine. But, it can't handle a GTX 560 Ti or higher. I mean it'll do okay until the action gets heated. Then the PSU gets really hot.

Its superior because they don't run the games on hobo builds like this!

You can build a PC for same price (or even lower) than that of PS4 and X1 and it can still outperform both of them . However , it is not a smart move to do so . If you want to enter PC gaming , try spending at least 700-800$ for kickass PC that can last for 5+ years .

There is no comparison between PC and consoles , and there is no reason for PC to be cheap like consoles , since it offers way more than what other platforms do . It is going to save you more money in the long run anyway .

PC gaming is expensive, that pc is not able to properly game on high settings, so stop this bs threads.

Loss the argument against the PS4 so now you pick on the xbox one...

I tell you the same,drop that dual core,include Blu-ray which the xbox one has and allows for high quality 1080p movies,add windows and drop that sorry ass power supply.

And that thing uses 4gb to do everything including running your OS so what's your point? $50 more you can buy premade laptops more powerful than that.

Never mind high settings, it may not run upcoming games like Dead Rising 3 and Arkham Knight on low settings.

What a dumb thread....

and diablotek PSUs

I didn't see any benchmarks showing this build beating anything.

yeah, but i dont have $800, my wife would kill me, i'll stick with a $400 one and upgrade it to $800 equivalent parts, when their price s down to $150

my 7870 is equivalent to a gtx580, in 2011 a gtx580 used to cost $450, now my 7870 costs only $130, im not sure its smart to buy a future proof machine

my $400 PC destroys the PS4, its ultra vs medium

Well, this thread backfired HARD. LOL

I love how you find the cheapest peripherals possible, and lie about a $10 "xbox" controller(it's a cheap knock off), yet don't look for any deals for xbox live, just post the retail price. Are you even trying? This is embarrassing.

Since you are adding savings from games on PC(a limited selection comes with cards, because of deals with publishers) I'll add all the savings on the xbox I will make over the years because I'm able to rent games and pick the ones I want. I can beat the game the week it launches for a fraction of the cost. No waiting a year for steam sale.

Over a generation, that'll add up to negative thousands of dollars, they're basically paying me to play games by your logic. I don't think even the Hermies are claiming you anymore, this is just sad...

The ram, gpu and cpu are below min req of next gen multiplats which is what this build is supposed to be all about.

i like the idea of having 4 cores/treads, but benchmarks show this little thing beating 740k, not sure of what is best, this one uses less Watts so you can plug it in a shittier PSU

I stand corrected, hermies are claiming this guy.

Most hermits on SW wont even agree with these guys. This thread being perfect evidence of that

so you think games on xbox are cheaper than on PC? nice...

please read the begnning of the tread, its for PC gamers, get out please

But it's up to the TC to prove it's true...

Or are you saying that since Cranler can't prove it false, it's true?

We don't need more people joining the PC crowd, there's enough retards as it is.

The only reason the PS3 and 360 were able to later beat a 7800gtx was because of unified shaders tech.

The 7800gtx lacked this tech. If the game was not shader intensive then it would win against the 360/PS3.

Most early games were not anything shader intensive so that is why the 7800gtx held the lead.

This gen consoles don't have any spec tech that is also not present on PC.

There won't be any big jump like last gen and your view of optimization is a myth.

I know this because an old 8600gts and overclocked 8600gt (both similar in power to consoles) can still match last gen consoles if not exceed them at times.

The 8800gtx doesn't just beat the PS3 and Xbox 360 it trashes it just like it did at release.

It can run Bioshock Infinite smoothly at the highest directx 10 settings at 1600x900.

The consoles could only run it at a mix of mostly medium with some low settings at 1280x720.

$350 notebook with a GPU more powerfull than R7 260X? show me that please, closest thing ive seen was a razer with 7970M wich is a downcloked 7870 at $2500

then you probably should have posted it in the PC gaming board

Its for PC gamers? No self respecting PC gamer would be seen dead with this "rig".

why you keep repeating that? im sure you know that those minimum requirements are BS and you still keep pretending that this PC will not run those games