PC gamers:U$299 PC vs Xbox One / $198 PC vs past gen console

Most last gen games I played used around 700-850 MB of RAM at their peak.

The higher end games usually used 1.5GB of RAM with the highest I have seen unmodded was around 2.4GB.

My older PC build with only 4GB of RAM still has not run into a game that needs more.

vRAM requirements are jumping though.

so where does it leave the Xbox One? this PC being vastly superior to it, by your logic they will build a special kind of "under low settings" to run the next batman on the console

Dead Rising 3's min reqs are proof that this build is a total fail in all aspects.

@RyviusARC: Except a PS3 never used a unified shader architecture. It had the same problems the 7800 gt did. And both a PS3 and 360 beat a 8600 on most games. The 8800 gtx beat both consoles because it was a top of the line card that retailed at around $600 by itself.

It's not about new powerful tech in the consoles it's about how the use it far more efficiently then any pc.

Exactly. I don't see what TC is trying to prove. That you can make a hobo build?

youre doing something wrong bro, this old PC was phenom x4 850 (slower than most phenoms) and a $70 HD7750, and i could run it with improved texture filtering and 2x resolution all the way to the end, much better than my original experience with it on the PS2

the native frame rate in SOTC on the PS2 was 30fps on most of the game and only 20fps on bosses, maybe youre trying to get real 60fps?

this PC cant run Wii 3d games like mario galaxy, but i can run NSMB and Kirby

you mean the ones for BF4 which this $299 PC can't play?

...i feel like you're misusing the word "vastly"

That R260 BF 4 bench is with the 2gb version using an I7-3770k at 4.3GHz. The build in this thread is a 1gb gpu lol.

hobo build >>>xbox one, agreed

Agreed.

Wut? You can't even play games on it.....

oh yeah...sure....

I'm really curious why anyone in their right mind would want to use such a build. You're better off saving up a few hundred more and getting something that will actually last.

maybe in some distant place some people might not have those extra $ to save, and maybe this is the reason there is still millions of under $400 consles being sold every day

"On to the tests, and Battlefield 4 is our very first stop when putting the 260X through its paces. Installed in a PC featuring an Intel i7-3770k processor clocked at 4.3GHz per core, and 16GB of DDR3 RAM, most bottlenecks are removed here when running the Frostbite 3 engine. This should, in theory, give us a clear picture of what this card can pull off."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-r7-260x-vs-next-gen-console

So, not only have you made an idiot of yourself in the OP, you do it here as well. That setup is using a high end Intel quad core with hyperthreading and its overclocked. Not to mention its got 16GB of RAM.

A $400 dollar PC does sh** to the PS4..lol

I have one it cost me $600+ has a R9 270 and yes it beat the PS4 but destroying it no chance in hell troll..

So what is next.?

You don't need a case you install all the components on a piece of plastic.?

You don't need a power supply batteries will do.?

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

And that PSU as well...lol

Hell can you find if the dumb moron who make the thread at least checked this time if the PSU was enough to power its GPU.? Because last time he made a thread like this vs the PS4,he chose that same diablotek PSU,but pair with a GPU that demanded a 500 watts PSU an R9 270 ..lol

I laughed so hard at him,he had a 400 watts cheap PSU which was probably like 380 peak and his card demanded a 500 watts PSU..hahahaha

That is what happen when you build like a moron..

Oh wait the sad fellow did it again...hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

ANALOG: 2048 x 1536
DIGITAL: 2560 x 1600(DVI);4096 x 2160(HDMI;DP)

Eyefinity Support

Yes

CrossFireX Support

No

Cooler

With Fan

Slot Width

Dual Slot

System Requirements

500 watt (minimum)

Power Connector

6-Pin

Dual-Link DVI Supported

Yes

Card Dimensions (L x H)

6.6" x 4.4"

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150688&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

That R260X requires minimum a 500 watts PSU and his PSU is 400 watts..hahahahaahaaaaaaaaaaaa

Holy sh** hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa he still builds like a moron..

Odd because on this test that CPU prove to be a bottle neck,in fact it does 31FPS less using the same GPU than the i5,and 29 less than AMD 8 core CPU,hell it does 25 FPS less than my 6350....lol

You wonder why it did this bad on this game.? Because watchdogs requires a quad core and this one bottleneck the sh** out of a strong GPU.

Maybe this one will do it,..lol

You are bottleneck,not that you were not before you even mount your PC you silly troll,you again chose a PSU that is 400 watts with a GPU that requires minimum a 500 watts PSU have a nice time setting your house on fire..hahahahaaaaa

@tormentos: I highly doubt that PSU has enough juice on the 12V rail.

If you have $400 saved then you are more than likely capable of waiting a bit longer and saving up more. Also, in such places that hardware will cost a lot more. Consoles are irrelevant to my comment, not to mention that train of thought it completely flawed since the console market and the PC market aren't run in the same way.

r7 260x 1gb >>> x1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiijsQJRPmM

where i live i must spend $600 for those $400 parts, but the PS4 costs at least $750 here, and PC games are $40 while PS4 games are $80-90

Well that one is true the R7 260X is basically a refresh 7790,which does have more power and speed than the xbox one.

At least in something you are right.

Is the reason i told him that he builds like a moron,it was the first thing i check when i got a R9 270 as gift what power supply goes with it,i got a 500 watts ultra one.

The PS3's Cell could handle the tasks that it's GPU couldn't do.

The Cell itself help boost the GPU performance.

And actually an 8600gts or oced 8600gt could match last gen console in most games and sometimes exceed them.

The 8800gtx is more than 3x the power of consoles in specs and it still holds that gap despite what you say about optimizations.

Most of the performance gained is from the CPU side as that is where an api has the largest affect on.

It's the same for AMD's new mantle which only shows a huge benefit on PC builds where the CPU is bottlenecking the GPU.

GPUs are largely unaffected by this.

LOL! that bench is with a 2gb r7 260 with a I7-3770k at 4.3GHz.

@tormentos said:

@leandrro said:

my $400 PC destroys the PS4, its ultra vs medium

A $400 dollar PC does sh** to the PS4..lol

I have one it cost me $600+ has a R9 270 and yes it beat the PS4 but destroying it no chance in hell troll..

So what is next.?

You don't need a case you install all the components on a piece of plastic.?

You don't need a power supply batteries will do.?

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

@farrell2k said:

The only thing that starts house fires is Sony batteries, laptop power supplies, and Xbox power cables...

So now $300 pc hardware outperforms the XB1. Did consolites expect this not to happen? I'd probably bump it up $20 and get an athlon 740k

And that PSU as well...lol

Hell can you find if the dumb moron who make the thread at least checked this time if the PSU was enough to power its GPU.? Because last time he made a thread like this vs the PS4,he chose that same diablotek PSU,but pair with a GPU that demanded a 500 watts PSU an R9 270 ..lol

I laughed so hard at him,he had a 400 watts cheap PSU which was probably like 380 peak and his card demanded a 500 watts PSU..hahahaha

That is what happen when you build like a moron..

Oh wait the sad fellow did it again...hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

ANALOG: 2048 x 1536
DIGITAL: 2560 x 1600(DVI);4096 x 2160(HDMI;DP)

Eyefinity Support

Yes

CrossFireX Support

No

Cooler

With Fan

Slot Width

Dual Slot

System Requirements

500 watt (minimum)

Power Connector

6-Pin

Dual-Link DVI Supported

Yes

Card Dimensions (L x H)

6.6" x 4.4"

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150688&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

That R260X requires minimum a 500 watts PSU and his PSU is 400 watts..hahahahaahaaaaaaaaaaaa

Holy sh** hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa he still builds like a moron..

@leandrro said:

i like the idea of having 4 cores/treads, but benchmarks show this little thing beating 740k, not sure of what is best, this one uses less Watts so you can plug it in a shittier PSU

Odd because on this test that CPU prove to be a bottle neck,in fact it does 31FPS less using the same GPU than the i5,and 29 less than AMD 8 core CPU,hell it does 25 FPS less than my 6350....lol

You wonder why it did this bad on this game.? Because watchdogs requires a quad core and this one bottleneck the sh** out of a strong GPU.

Maybe this one will do it,..lol

You are bottleneck,not that you were not before you even mount your PC you silly troll,you again chose a PSU that is 400 watts with a GPU that requires minimum a 500 watts PSU have a nice time setting your house on fire..hahahahaaaaa

i have the same card as you but my $600 PC cost me only $400

R7260x needs 500W PSU LOL, you know Sh*** about PSUs do you?

do you even know what is TDP? what is a 12v rail?

this build need 115W for GPU and 54W for CPU + ABOUT 20W for the rest = 179W youre safe with a $10 250W PSU, 400W PSU is a big waste

Cool, that doesn't really have anything to do with what I was saying.

@leandrro: It seems you don't understand PSU's.

I don't get the point of such poor-man's builds. They are severely limited and will probably not last long.

Might as well shell out some more and save in the long run.

you believe the manufacturers specifications for wattage and 12v rail?

this 260X is 115W tdp it means less than 10A on 12v rail, the CPU is 54W tdp, combined they require 169W and if all the power where coming from the 12v rail alone, it would use 14A, the shittiest PSU on newegg has a 16A 12V rail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817170014&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=psu-_-17-170-014-_-Product

A video with no frame counter proves what?

proves that i am part of a big youtube conspiracy of fake benchmarks?

Do you really just go on what the manufactures say? Are you going to ignore thousands of seasoned PC builders telling you to avoid PSU's like this one? There is a reason its so cheap.... its not built to provide that power output and the parts inside will certainly not be industry standard.

you need a certified PSU for 300 400 or 500W build, but you dont need to avoid cheap PSUs for a 180W build, saying that you cant use a cheap 250W PSU in a 180W PC is like saying that 90% of worlds PCs should be shut off because they will soon explode, because most of them are using cheap 250W PSUs in 180W configurations

Seriously, I would never recommend such a build.

Yes it is possible to build a machine(without the OS) for 300$,is it any good? Nope.

You are a true moron,what your CPU draws no power.? How about your mother board and your HDD do those run on batteries you stupid fu**? Why do you think they say minimum 500 watts,because your whole system runs on power,and everything connected including your freaking mother board draw power from then power supply..lol

My god how the fu** can you even claim that you know how to build a damn PC.?

Please reference your selected motherboard form factor to ensure power supply compatibility. The system builder must ensure that the total combined wattage for the system configuration must be less than the output of the power supply used. Overall current usage limitation on the power supply should not exceed a combined system power output for the +5V and +3.3V outputs.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/recommended/system-building/power-supply-guidelines

From AMD it self you sad troll.

He did the same with another system already but using a R9 270 as base that is the same fu**ing card i have on my PC and requires a 500 watts minimum PSU,and in fact it tells you if you want cross fire make it 600 watts..lol

I am starting to think that the sad dude if your alter ego or the other way around,because it can't be a coincidence that 2 so call PC gamers build PC in the same sh** way.

Thanks for that irrelevant information

In that case , you have every right to go for cheaper build . Lol .

which your $299 build can't play

You just don't get it do you.

Sure enough, after a few minutes of test one, we got an electrical zzzt sound and the unit was dead. At 184 watts, it died. Seems a long way from 650 watts, doesn't it? We didn't even get a chance at using the scope on this one, it went out that soon.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=71

A 650W rated PSU that died failing to provide less than 200W... Let me say that again to reenforce the point. It died failing to provide less than 50% of what its rated at.... Now you say that the world is running on sub-par PSU's which is true i'll give you that but those people are not putting in dedicated video cards, they aren't pushing those PSU's at all. Lets look at what the inside of the 650W PSU looked like.

Do you really think that stuff is going to made of good quality materials? Do you think that cooling is suitable?

Lets get to the point here, this build you cooked up is nothing but a deathtrap. It fails to meet current game standards and it certainly won't be playing anything that comes out in 2015. If you have saved $300 for something to play games on, play a 3DS and a stack of games rather then this POS.

Because not everyone has a Windows license to transfer...