seems like fanboys are using "rumours" to spam wheatever stupidity comes to their minds. gl with that 7990 reach xD
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seems like fanboys are using "rumours" to spam wheatever stupidity comes to their minds. gl with that 7990 reach xD
From what I saw from the recently revealed rumored specs that console will be a nightmare to program for because of the multiple CPU's and GPU's.Make your hardware simple and easy to program for MS.Don;t make a convoluted mess like this.It will piss of any dev that is not good at undrstading hardware.
[QUOTE="James161324"][QUOTE="reach3"] these specs are 99% going to be in 720reach3
rofl, please can you be the on to tell the investors of the 500 dollars loss per unit. Yea guys we are going to loose 2.5 billion in the first week
they will make it all back with contract deal, xbox live revenue and software revenue easily, YOU are the one who needs to do research my friend.The Sub moddle works for cell phones as they are cheap as hell to make. Consoles are not
I have no worries. The 7990 for 720 will be customized for it. Even stronger, with less power used. I cant wait to say i told you so when they announce specs :)seems like fanboys are using "rumours" to spam wheatever stupidity comes to their minds. gl with that 7990 reach xD
Krelian-co
This thread confirmed it.
The 720 will contain a 1000$ PC along with everything else, for the price of 300$
[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]I have no worries. The 7990 for 720 will be customized for it. Even stronger, with less power used. I cant wait to say i told you so when they announce specs :)seems like fanboys are using "rumours" to spam wheatever stupidity comes to their minds. gl with that 7990 reach xD
reach3
they will probably end up with a medium spec video card and you will hype it to no end saying that since its for consoles it will magically have the performance of a real 7990. Can't wait to say i told you
[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]I have no worries. The 7990 for 720 will be customized for it. Even stronger, with less power used. I cant wait to say i told you so when they announce specs :)seems like fanboys are using "rumours" to spam wheatever stupidity comes to their minds. gl with that 7990 reach xD
reach3
You realize that the 7990 is a dual GPU with a 300 watt power draw. You cant really cut it down that much. It would be more likely that the GPU will be related to a APU or mobile graphics card
This thread confirmed it.
The 720 will contain a 1000$ PC along with everything else, for the price of 300$
MlauTheDaft
and reach will be fired and sued for reveling company secrets. Also if he is lucky the feds will try to get him for insider trading
[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]I have no worries. The 7990 for 720 will be customized for it. Even stronger, with less power used. I cant wait to say i told you so when they announce specs :)seems like fanboys are using "rumours" to spam wheatever stupidity comes to their minds. gl with that 7990 reach xD
reach3
Can I take a look into that crystal ball of yours? I'd like to know what the next lottery numbers are going to be.
I have no worries. The 7990 for 720 will be customized for it. Even stronger, with less power used. I cant wait to say i told you so when they announce specs :)[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]
seems like fanboys are using "rumours" to spam wheatever stupidity comes to their minds. gl with that 7990 reach xD
YearoftheSnake5
Can I take a look into that crystal ball of yours? I'd like to know what the next lottery numbers are going to be.
Not the same thing. Its common sense. 360 matched and beat the best pc on release day. 720 will do the same. Xbox has always been the strongest console each gen and will continue that with 720.[QUOTE="YearoftheSnake5"][QUOTE="reach3"] I have no worries. The 7990 for 720 will be customized for it. Even stronger, with less power used. I cant wait to say i told you so when they announce specs :)reach3
Can I take a look into that crystal ball of yours? I'd like to know what the next lottery numbers are going to be.
Not the same thing. Its common sense. 360 matched and beat the best pc on release day. 720 will do the same. Xbox has always been the strongest console each gen and will continue that with 720.I doubt it beat the "best" PC
[QUOTE="YearoftheSnake5"][QUOTE="reach3"] I have no worries. The 7990 for 720 will be customized for it. Even stronger, with less power used. I cant wait to say i told you so when they announce specs :)reach3
Can I take a look into that crystal ball of yours? I'd like to know what the next lottery numbers are going to be.
Not the same thing. Its common sense. 360 matched and beat the best pc on release day. 720 will do the same. Xbox has always been the strongest console each gen and will continue that with 720.Cool bro, then you need to get your stuff straight to be the best right now you need 32 gb of ram, a thousand dollar cpu, and about 2 grand worth of gpus. plus another grand in sometype of thousand dollar ssd raid. Plus about 500 dollars to run a custom water cooling system
[QUOTE="YearoftheSnake5"][QUOTE="reach3"] I have no worries. The 7990 for 720 will be customized for it. Even stronger, with less power used. I cant wait to say i told you so when they announce specs :)reach3
Can I take a look into that crystal ball of yours? I'd like to know what the next lottery numbers are going to be.
Not the same thing. Its common sense. 360 matched and beat the best pc on release day. 720 will do the same. Xbox has always been the strongest console each gen and will continue that with 720.No, it's not common sense. You are making assumptions, and the only thing you are referencing is history. Once upon a time, Nintendo made more powerful consoles than Sony. Things change.
Not the same thing. Its common sense. 360 matched and beat the best pc on release day. 720 will do the same. Xbox has always been the strongest console each gen and will continue that with 720.[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="YearoftheSnake5"]
Can I take a look into that crystal ball of yours? I'd like to know what the next lottery numbers are going to be.
YearoftheSnake5
No, it's not common sense. You are making assumptions, and the only thing you are referencing is history. Once upon a time, Nintendo made more powerful consoles than Sony. Things change.
well I think we can agree on one thing at least. Dio kicks ass :)both suck xbox>360/720 no kinect casualsI love how reach3 is still being delusional and wishing for more powerful hardware.720 will only be 4X-8X more powerful then the 360.
super600
[QUOTE="James161324"]They are taking a loss. So they can have 7990, 4GB ram, and 3 cpus for $300 plus contract options Then why did sony have to sell the PS3 for $599? If they take TOO big a loss, they will probably drive themselves bankrupt.299.99 does not equal 7990, 7990 will cost about a grand. If they want a 300 dollar system, quad core, 4 gb of ram, 250 gb hd, and some like a 6850/460
reach3
[QUOTE="MlauTheDaft"]why not? 360 did when it released and beat the most powerful pc. No it didnt? I had a last gen 7000 series card. Taht being said it was also a cut down lower power version of the PC cardThis thread confirmed it.
The 720 will contain a 1000$ PC along with everything else, for the price of 300$
reach3
4X to 6X indicates Radeon HD 7770 level GPU.So, 3 CPUS, 4GB ram, and Kinect v2. Still no definite GPU. It will be very powerful of course. I am guessing AMD 7990.
Will be $300 or $99+contract. Microsoft kicking ass. Easily will last 10 years with these specs :)
reach3
4X to 6X indicates Radeon HD 7770 level GPU. That estimate is based on CPU alone.[QUOTE="reach3"]
So, 3 CPUS, 4GB ram, and Kinect v2. Still no definite GPU. It will be very powerful of course. I am guessing AMD 7990.
Will be $300 or $99+contract. Microsoft kicking ass. Easily will last 10 years with these specs :)
ronvalencia
[QUOTE="YearoftheSnake5"][QUOTE="reach3"] I have no worries. The 7990 for 720 will be customized for it. Even stronger, with less power used. I cant wait to say i told you so when they announce specs :)reach3
Can I take a look into that crystal ball of yours? I'd like to know what the next lottery numbers are going to be.
Not the same thing. Its common sense. 360 matched and beat the best pc on release day. 720 will do the same. Xbox has always been the strongest console each gen and will continue that with 720.1. Radeon 8500 was release before Xbox 1
2. Radeon 8500 already has dual vertex shader units before Xbox 1's NV2A.
[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]7990? The screenshot says only 4x-6x more powerful than the Xbox 360.reach3That is only accounting for the cpus. They dont know gpu. I am guessing 7990 which will be 15x 360 at elast combined with cpus and ram. The 7990 would be like 36 times more powerful than an xbox 360. A Single 7970 is around 20 times the power of an xbox 360.
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]4X to 6X indicates Radeon HD 7770 level GPU. That estimate is based on CPU alone. Wrong again , its the whole system.[QUOTE="reach3"]
So, 3 CPUS, 4GB ram, and Kinect v2. Still no definite GPU. It will be very powerful of course. I am guessing AMD 7990.
Will be $300 or $99+contract. Microsoft kicking ass. Easily will last 10 years with these specs :)
reach3
[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]7990? The screenshot says only 4x-6x more powerful than the Xbox 360.RyviusARCThat is only accounting for the cpus. They dont know gpu. I am guessing 7990 which will be 15x 360 at elast combined with cpus and ram. The 7990 would be like 36 times more powerful than an xbox 360. A Single 7970 is around 20 times the power of an xbox 360. Which is great news for 720 owners
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]4X to 6X indicates Radeon HD 7770 level GPU. That estimate is based on CPU alone.[QUOTE="reach3"]
So, 3 CPUS, 4GB ram, and Kinect v2. Still no definite GPU. It will be very powerful of course. I am guessing AMD 7990.
Will be $300 or $99+contract. Microsoft kicking ass. Easily will last 10 years with these specs :)
reach3
Not with Microsoft's takedown notice leak http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=24987
"6X" refers to the entire Xbox 720 console.
My "4X to 6X indicates Radeon HD 7770 level GPU" statement refers to the basic GFLOPs comparison with the GPU.
With VRAM, 4X over Xbox 360 points to Radeon HD 7770 level GPU.
PS; Picture from dailytech.com
That estimate is based on CPU alone.[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] 4X to 6X indicates Radeon HD 7770 level GPU.
ronvalencia
Not with Microsoft's takedown notice leak http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=24987
"6X" refers to the entire Xbox 720 console.
My "4X to 6X indicates Radeon HD 7770 level GPU" statement refers to the basic GFLOPs comparison with the GPU.
With VRAM, 4X over Xbox 360 points to Radeon HD 7770 level GPU.
PS; Picture from dailytech.com
But that document was from 2010. They surely have upgraded to 7970 since then to repeat history as being the strongest system on release. SO final specs will be 7970 4gb ram and high end cpu[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="reach3"] That estimate is based on CPU alone.reach3
Not with Microsoft's takedown notice leak http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=24987
"6X" refers to the entire Xbox 720 console.
My "4X to 6X indicates Radeon HD 7770 level GPU" statement refers to the basic GFLOPs comparison with the GPU.
With VRAM, 4X over Xbox 360 points to Radeon HD 7770 level GPU.
PS; Picture from dailytech.com
But that document was from 2010. They surely have upgraded to 7970 since then to repeat history as being the strongest system on release. SO final specs will be 7970 4gb ram and high end cpu Again you have no idea what your talking about.... stop being like loosingends o wait......It's believable..........but with a 4 gig RAM?? :lol:-Radeon 7990
-300 bucks system
This is the worst rumor yet.:|
mitu123
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="reach3"] That estimate is based on CPU alone.reach3
Not with Microsoft's takedown notice leak http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=24987
"6X" refers to the entire Xbox 720 console.
My "4X to 6X indicates Radeon HD 7770 level GPU" statement refers to the basic GFLOPs comparison with the GPU.
With VRAM, 4X over Xbox 360 points to Radeon HD 7770 level GPU.
PS; Picture from dailytech.com
But that document was from 2010. They surely have upgraded to 7970 since then to repeat history as being the strongest system on release. SO final specs will be 7970 4gb ram and high end cpu1. 100 watts 7970 is not possible beyond 2015, unless they clock it to 450Mhz (from 925 Mhz or 1050Mhz).
2. AMD Xenos was gimped to 8 ROPs/128bit wired VRAM compared 16 ROPs/256bit wired VRAM enabled AMD Radeon X1900XT.
3. What's after unified shader design shift?
God this is priceless you cannot honestly believe it'll have a 7990?:lol:. Personally i cannot see them selling a console at a loss, not after how well the 360 is selling at a profit.
People couldn't believe 360 could have GPU with more shaders than even PCs, yet it did.God this is priceless you cannot honestly believe it'll have a 7990?:lol:. Personally i cannot see them selling a console at a loss, not after how well the 360 is selling at a profit.
TwistedShade
But that document was from 2010. They surely have upgraded to 7970 since then to repeat history as being the strongest system on release. SO final specs will be 7970 4gb ram and high end cpu[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
Not with Microsoft's takedown notice leak http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=24987
"6X" refers to the entire Xbox 720 console.
My "4X to 6X indicates Radeon HD 7770 level GPU" statement refers to the basic GFLOPs comparison with the GPU.
With VRAM, 4X over Xbox 360 points to Radeon HD 7770 level GPU.
PS; Picture from dailytech.com
ronvalencia
1. AMD Xenos was gimped to 8 ROPs/128bit wired VRAM compared 16 ROPs/256bit wired VRAM enabled AMD Radeon X1900XT.
2. What's after unified shader design shift?
360 had more shaders and was better than any pc gpu. Stop the damage control please[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="reach3"] But that document was from 2010. They surely have upgraded to 7970 since then to repeat history as being the strongest system on release. SO final specs will be 7970 4gb ram and high end cpureach3
1. AMD Xenos was gimped to 8 ROPs/128bit wired VRAM compared 16 ROPs/256bit wired VRAM enabled AMD Radeon X1900XT.
2. What's after unified shader design shift?
360 had more shaders and was better than any pc gpu. Stop the damage control pleaseOnly due to "one shot" unified shader design shift.
Radeon X1900XT has 48 PS+ 8 VS i.e. a total of 58 shader units.
Xenos's unified shaders works in the following modes i.e. (shader units are organized in three SIMD groups with 16 shader unit)
1. 16 VS + 32 PS
2. 32 VS + 16 PS
3. 0 VS + 48 PS
4. 48 PS + 0 PS
360 had more shaders and was better than any pc gpu. Stop the damage control pleasereach3
"Had more shaders"
I'm assuming you mean shader units. Even then, no it didn't. PC's in 2005 were more powerful than the 360. Of course you'll deny it though, you're a troll who really has nothing better to do with your life.
[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]360 had more shaders and was better than any pc gpu. Stop the damage control please Only due to "one shot" unified shader design shift.1. AMD Xenos was gimped to 8 ROPs/128bit wired VRAM compared 16 ROPs/256bit wired VRAM enabled AMD Radeon X1900XT.
2. What's after unified shader design shift?
ronvalencia
it was the first GPU on the market with the unified shaders, as it launched before ATI's PC versions of the same architecture (at least that's what I believe). However, it was out muscled by existing PC GPUs.
[QUOTE="reach3"]360 had more shaders and was better than any pc gpu. Stop the damage control pleaseWasdie
"Had more shaders"
I'm assuming you mean shader units. Even then, no it didn't. PC's in 2005 were more powerful than the 360. Of course you'll deny it though, you're a troll who really has nothing better to do with your life.
No they weren't. I cannot believe a mod is allowed to insult others.[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="reach3"]360 had more shaders and was better than any pc gpu. Stop the damage control pleasereach3
"Had more shaders"
I'm assuming you mean shader units. Even then, no it didn't. PC's in 2005 were more powerful than the 360. Of course you'll deny it though, you're a troll who really has nothing better to do with your life.
No they weren't. I cannot believe a mod is allowed to insult others.I can insult you for being an idiot whenever I want. Everybody here already knows it. You prove it to us almost every day.
I did really like your rage quit post awhile back. I knew you were just kidding yourself, but you did give this community a slight silver lining that maybe you would stop infecting the board with your worthless posts.
I'm not going to bother arguing with a blatent troll. Just going to point it out.
No they weren't. I cannot believe a mod is allowed to insult others.[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]
"Had more shaders"
I'm assuming you mean shader units. Even then, no it didn't. PC's in 2005 were more powerful than the 360. Of course you'll deny it though, you're a troll who really has nothing better to do with your life.
Wasdie
I can insult you for being an idiot whenever I want. Everybody here already knows it.
but you are a hermit, who refuses to admit 360 gpu was better than anything on release day. There was no outmuscling it. thats just fanboy nonsense. But lets SAY it didn't to please you. Lets say it came close to pc gpu. Well 720 will repeat that and come close or surpass pc best gpu on release. For you to completely rule it out that 720 will have 7990 when you dont know anything about 720, is a joke and shows the bias of you[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="reach3"] No they weren't. I cannot believe a mod is allowed to insult others. reach3
I can insult you for being an idiot whenever I want. Everybody here already knows it.
but you are a hermit, who refuses to admit 360 gpu was better than anything on release day. There was no outmuscling it. thats just fanboy nonsense. But lets SAY it didn't to please you. Lets say it came close to pc gpu. Well 720 will repeat that and come close or surpass pc best gpu on release. For you to completely rule that out when histyory proves im right, your your too biased to really grasp the facts in console historyThe reason I'm responding is because I know somebody out there is going to believe your sh!t.
People, don't believe him. Just please, don't believe a guy who has spammed this forum for months with nonsense. The stuff he says is not factual no matter what he says.
I know a lot of people around here have a bias to one console or another. Just because somebody is saying stuff that backs the console of your choice does not make it right. Reach3 is a very influential guy because he says what Xbox fans what to hear. Just don't believe him. You're just setting yourself up for disappointment.
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