PC to be destroyed next year. Xbox 720 specs= AMD 7990. 16 Core CPU, 4GB Ram

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#201 gamecubepad
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If your calling me a cow I'm afraid your mistaken there sir.

Majistrate

No, man. I'm saying saolin is a f*cking cow fakeboy-ing as a lemming and inciting hermits in order to deflect much-warranted hatred away from the cows.

We have to be condescending and arrogant when such stupid information is posted. Otherwise, what's the fun in it?DragonfireXZ95

:P

Well then, by all means carry on. lol.

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#202 Majistrate
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[QUOTE="Majistrate"]


If your calling me a cow I'm afraid your mistaken there sir.

gamecubepad

No, man. I'm saying saolin is a f*cking cow fakeboy-ing as a lemming and inciting hermits in order to deflect much-warranted hatred away from the cows.

We have to be condescending and arrogant when such stupid information is posted. Otherwise, what's the fun in it?DragonfireXZ95

:P

Well then, by all means carry on. lol.



Fair enough, apologies.

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#203 KiZZo1
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I hear Nextbox will have a NASA supercompurter in it. Is it true?

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#204 parkurtommo
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Nice vids you have in your tabs bro

queen-1980.jpg

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#205 reach3
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Nice vids you have in your tabs bro

queen-1980.jpg

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Yep. Queen is the best :) Although Adam Lambert is touring with them and sucks big time. Freddie is the greatest and cant be replaced :(
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#206 ronvalencia
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sure and it will only cost three-thousand dollars.

Vaasman

The PC based on the following specs would NOT cost $3000 USD

$314.99, AMD Radeon HD 7950 (similar material cost as HD 7970).

$314.99, AMD Radeon HD 7950 (similar material cost as HD 7970).

$453.99, AMD Opteron 6234 (16 cores, Socket G34).

$253.12, Supermicro H8SGL-F Motherboard with Single Socket G34.

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#207 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

Nice vids you have in your tabs bro

queen-1980.jpg

reach3

Yep. Queen is the best :) Although Adam Lambert is touring with them and sucks big time. Freddie is the greatest and cant be replaced :(

Well,at least your music taste doesn't suck.Too bad we cannot say the same for your reasoning,and common sense :(

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#208 tormentos
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So, will have 16 core CPU, 4GB ram, and AMD 7990 plus Kinect V2. All for $300 dollars. With specs like these and throwing the beauty of console optimization on top, the graphcis are going to make PC look like WII U in comparison. No point in building a pc when 720 costs $300 and has betetr hardware than even a $2000 pc will have. I guess AMD stating 720 will have Avatar graphics is true after all.reach3
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29225353/xbox-720-patent. That was an old rumor now this is what MS filed a Paten for... 4 to 6 times the xbox 360 performance,media box integrated with dedicate hardware..
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#209 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

sure and it will only cost three-thousand dollars.

ronvalencia

The PC based on the following specs would NOT cost $3000 USD

$314.99, AMD Radeon HD 7950 (similar material cost as HD 7970).

$314.99, AMD Radeon HD 7950 (similar material cost as HD 7970).

$453.99, AMD Opteron 6234 (16 cores, Socket G34).

$253.12, Supermicro H8SGL-F Motherboard with Single Socket G34.

HDD, Optical drive...? Ram..?
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#210 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

sure and it will only cost three-thousand dollars.

parkurtommo

The PC based on the following specs would NOT cost $3000 USD

$314.99, AMD Radeon HD 7950 (similar material cost as HD 7970).

$314.99, AMD Radeon HD 7950 (similar material cost as HD 7970).

$453.99, AMD Opteron 6234 (16 cores, Socket G34).

$253.12, Supermicro H8SGL-F Motherboard with Single Socket G34.

HDD, Optical drive...? Ram..?

Find it from pcpartpicker.com or similar sites.

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#211 reach3
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[QUOTE="reach3"]So, will have 16 core CPU, 4GB ram, and AMD 7990 plus Kinect V2. All for $300 dollars. With specs like these and throwing the beauty of console optimization on top, the graphcis are going to make PC look like WII U in comparison. No point in building a pc when 720 costs $300 and has betetr hardware than even a $2000 pc will have. I guess AMD stating 720 will have Avatar graphics is true after all.tormentos
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29225353/xbox-720-patent. That was an old rumor now this is what MS filed a Paten for... 4 to 6 times the xbox 360 performance,media box integrated with dedicate hardware..

is from 2010. and most liekly dev kits things have changed for final 720- hardware. :)

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#212 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

sure and it will only cost three-thousand dollars.

parkurtommo

The PC based on the following specs would NOT cost $3000 USD

$314.99, AMD Radeon HD 7950 (similar material cost as HD 7970).

$314.99, AMD Radeon HD 7950 (similar material cost as HD 7970).

$453.99, AMD Opteron 6234 (16 cores, Socket G34).

$253.12, Supermicro H8SGL-F Motherboard with Single Socket G34.

HDD, Optical drive...? Ram..?

Is there a point in asking for those components?

He made his point,HDD,ODD,RAM,PSU and chassis won't skyrocket the price,that's for sure,they're generally among cheaper components...

Even with them,you're well under $3000.Chances are,you won't even cross the $2000 price...

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#213 reach3
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I like ron he knows a lot about tech :) but he is wrong on 720 unfortunately.
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#214 ronvalencia
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I like ron he knows a lot about tech :) but he is wrong on 720 unfortunately.reach3

My assumptions are based on GoFlo/TSMC's process tech road map and semi-static PCB prices.

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#215 tormentos
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[QUOTE="MlauTheDaft"]

This thread confirmed it.

The 720 will contain a 1000$ PC along with everything else, for the price of 300$

reach3
why not? 360 did when it released and beat the most powerful pc.

Oh please for a month and it wasn't the most powerful PC either. But the xbox 360 was gimped to hell in other parts,and MS abused their costumers for the extra money they loss on the hardware on launch,$125 dollar loss per unit,which translated into $99 dollar wifi adapters,and other over priced peripherals. Only a true fanboy will think MS will release a console like that and cheap,the xbox 360 as it is cost $300 dollars and is 7 years old tech with no blu-ray,imaging how expensive it would be with a new card and a top of the line one.
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#216 reach3
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[QUOTE="reach3"]I like ron he knows a lot about tech :) but he is wrong on 720 unfortunately.ronvalencia
My assumptions are based on GoFlo/TSMC's process tech road map.

Thats the problem though. You are assuming that are going that direction and they aren't because they won't be able to continue the history of xbox being the strongest on launch.
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#217 reach3
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[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="MlauTheDaft"]

This thread confirmed it.

The 720 will contain a 1000$ PC along with everything else, for the price of 300$

tormentos
why not? 360 did when it released and beat the most powerful pc.

Oh please for a month and it wasn't the most powerful PC either. But the xbox 360 was gimped to hell in other parts,and MS abused their costumers for the extra money they loss on the hardware on launch,$125 dollar loss per unit,which translated into $99 dollar wifi adapters,and other over priced peripherals. Only a true fanboy will think MS will release a console like that and cheap,the xbox 360 as it is cost $300 dollars and is 7 years old tech with no blu-ray,imaging how expensive it would be with a new card and a top of the line one.

I remember before 360 came out people saying it wouldnt be strong. and yet it was. You guys are doing it again, why dont you get this?
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#218 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

The PC based on the following specs would NOT cost $3000 USD

$314.99, AMD Radeon HD 7950 (similar material cost as HD 7970).

$314.99, AMD Radeon HD 7950 (similar material cost as HD 7970).

$453.99, AMD Opteron 6234 (16 cores, Socket G34).

$253.12, Supermicro H8SGL-F Motherboard with Single Socket G34.

Rocker6

HDD, Optical drive...? Ram..?

Is there a point in asking for those components?

He made his point,HDD,ODD,RAM,PSU and chassis won't skyrocket the price,that's for sure,they're generally among cheaper components...

Even with them,you're well under $3000.Chances are,you won't even cross the $2000 price...

No one is going to by a console that costs more than 600$ I think that's implied. And who knows, it might have a blu ray optical drive, and a large harddrive (300+ gb)
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#219 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="reach3"]I like ron he knows a lot about tech :) but he is wrong on 720 unfortunately.reach3
My assumptions are based on GoFlo/TSMC's process tech road map.

Thats the problem though. You are assuming that are going that direction and they aren't because they won't be able to continue the history of xbox being the strongest on launch.

Hasn't he already explained you earlier?

360 managed to rival high-end PCs on release due to jump to unified shader model,which gave it an advantage...

This time,nothing similiar won't happen.Also,his predictions about next consoles are solid,he takes a lot of things into the account,costs,power consumption,TDP,performance,etc...

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#220 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

Just read the title. No, just from the title, the BS is obvious. Try putting a 7990, a 16 core cpu and an adequate power supply (at least 750w for the 7990) in a console sized box. Not even gonna talk about price, just try that, see what happens. Make sure to have a fire extinguisher nearby.

loosingENDS

Xbox 360 put 3 CPUs (when PC had only one) and Xenos that was 10x better than the best in 2005 (7800GTX)

So, these specs are probably the very early dev kits, the 720 will be far more powerful lthan these

Intel Atom X3 ~= IBM PPE X3 i.e. both are in-order dual instruction issue CPU cores with SMT. IBM PPE X3 has half clock speed L2 cache i.e. 1.6Ghz. It's designed to be cheap like a netbook.

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#221 GamerwillzPS
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Lol no.

The PC will never get destroyed by consoles, ever. The Nvidia GTX 690 destroys everything that consoles can offer. The PC is like 2 generations ahead.

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#222 Majistrate
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="reach3"]I like ron he knows a lot about tech :) but he is wrong on 720 unfortunately.reach3
My assumptions are based on GoFlo/TSMC's process tech road map.

Thats the problem though. You are assuming that are going that direction and they aren't because they won't be able to continue the history of xbox being the strongest on launch.



They don't care about it being the strongest anymore, they care about kinect, and shafting their customers at every oppurtunity.

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#223 tormentos
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="reach3"]So, will have 16 core CPU, 4GB ram, and AMD 7990 plus Kinect V2. All for $300 dollars. With specs like these and throwing the beauty of console optimization on top, the graphcis are going to make PC look like WII U in comparison. No point in building a pc when 720 costs $300 and has betetr hardware than even a $2000 pc will have. I guess AMD stating 720 will have Avatar graphics is true after all.reach3

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29225353/xbox-720-patent. That was an old rumor now this is what MS filed a Paten for... 4 to 6 times the xbox 360 performance,media box integrated with dedicate hardware..

is from 2010. and most liekly dev kits things have changed for final 720- hardware. :)

Yeah and Cell was from 2001 and ended 5 years latter on the PS3,you don't make a route map in 8 months,it takes times and planning,you don't create a console in 8 months or change specs on the fly it doesn't work that way. 2010 sound about right,considering the xbox was 5 years old already by that time,the 360 is 7 years old now dude,MS need to release of fall behind,and i don't think they will pack a GPU like that,plus all the components included on that patent. Oh and that patent which look very similar to the leak isn't old it was patent on June 21 2012...This year dude..So you can erase the whole 16 cores top of the line GPU out of your mind,at least click on the link before replaying.
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#224 gpuking
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Er, old news is old. Where exactly does the rumor article indicates a 7990? It only states 7000series so it could be a pi$$ poor 7760. And do you even know what a 7990 is and how much heat it dissipates? Reach, you're gonna be sorely disappointed when the real spec hits lol.
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#225 reach3
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[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] My assumptions are based on GoFlo/TSMC's process tech road map.Majistrate

Thats the problem though. You are assuming that are going that direction and they aren't because they won't be able to continue the history of xbox being the strongest on launch.



They don't care about it being the strongest anymore, they care about kinect, and shafting their customers at every oppurtunity.

that is you opinion, not fact. not gonan happen

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#226 tormentos
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[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="reach3"] why not? 360 did when it released and beat the most powerful pc.

Oh please for a month and it wasn't the most powerful PC either. But the xbox 360 was gimped to hell in other parts,and MS abused their costumers for the extra money they loss on the hardware on launch,$125 dollar loss per unit,which translated into $99 dollar wifi adapters,and other over priced peripherals. Only a true fanboy will think MS will release a console like that and cheap,the xbox 360 as it is cost $300 dollars and is 7 years old tech with no blu-ray,imaging how expensive it would be with a new card and a top of the line one.

I remember before 360 came out people saying it wouldnt be strong. and yet it was. You guys are doing it again, why dont you get this?

Where because i don't one of the things expected for the xbox 360 was to be the most powerful,given the fact that the xbox was more powerful than the PS2.
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#227 tormentos
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that is you opinion, not fact. not gonan happenreach3
Dude the patent link i gave you was done on Jun 21 2012 last month to be more accurate,the xbox 720 will not have a 16 core CPU or a top of the line card,not with all the crap that is packing inside.
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#228 reach3
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[QUOTE="reach3"] that is you opinion, not fact. not gonan happentormentos
Dude the patent link i gave you was done on Jun 21 2012 last month to be more accurate,the xbox 720 will not have a 16 core CPU or a top of the line card,not with all the crap that is packing inside.

I cannot wait until e3 to bump this thread and laugh at all of you while you all damage control your way out of it and try to delete your posts
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="reach3"] that is you opinion, not fact. not gonan happenreach3
Dude the patent link i gave you was done on Jun 21 2012 last month to be more accurate,the xbox 720 will not have a 16 core CPU or a top of the line card,not with all the crap that is packing inside.

I cannot wait until e3 to bump this thread and laugh at all of you while you all damage control your way out of it and try to delete your posts

e3 2015? I guess they may announce something by then. doubt it though.

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#230 SecretPolice
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This is just too legit to quit :shock: launch games Banjo Threeie / Kameo 2 / PGR5 as grx kings confirmed :cool: :twisted:

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#231 AndersK
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Even if the Xbox did use that hardware, you do realize that by the time the console hit the streets, Nvidia, Intel and AMD will have released several faster and much better parts? By the time it's out, it's already old. You are living in a dream, if you ever think that an entire console, which by the way costs less than a current high end graphics card, will leave a PC in the dust.

Do you honestly think you are getting an insane beast of a machine, for 300 dollars?

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I have set the correct size and added the cinematic blur, sorry no god rays as I couldnt find lens flare in paint.net. Still this is how it will actually look

asd

Rocker6

You'd make a fine console game developer :)

I'm a bit late to getting to this, But I think I've refined the 'look'

lens_ray_grain

desaturated, lens flare, film grain, changed the color curve to make it a bit darker.

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#233 tormentos
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="reach3"] that is you opinion, not fact. not gonan happenreach3
Dude the patent link i gave you was done on Jun 21 2012 last month to be more accurate,the xbox 720 will not have a 16 core CPU or a top of the line card,not with all the crap that is packing inside.

I cannot wait until e3 to bump this thread and laugh at all of you while you all damage control your way out of it and try to delete your posts

Well lets hope that you are not the one who has to delete the thread.
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#234 Tessellation
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not saying this is true,but probably it can happen considering that kinect uses lot of CPU power n yet most of the games are very simple adding more cores can make the games more responsive as well.
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#235 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I have set the correct size and added the cinematic blur, sorry no god rays as I couldnt find lens flare in paint.net. Still this is how it will actually look

asd

Inconsistancy

You'd make a fine console game developer :)

I'm a bit late to getting to this, But I think I've refined the 'look'

lens_ray_grain

desaturated, lens flare, film grain, changed the color curve to make it a bit darker.

Hahaha,nice one,you two would make great 3D "artists" for many modern games,it seems ;)

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#236 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I have set the correct size and added the cinematic blur, sorry no god rays as I couldnt find lens flare in paint.net. Still this is how it will actually look

asd

Inconsistancy

You'd make a fine console game developer :)

I'm a bit late to getting to this, But I think I've refined the 'look'

lens_ray_grain

desaturated, lens flare, film grain, changed the color curve to make it a bit darker.

That actually looks very convincing!
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#237 humpmasterflex
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more console peasant filth dreaming and make believing, lmao

SONY.MAKE believe

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#238 tormentos
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not saying this is true,but probably it can happen considering that kinect uses lot of CPU power n yet most of the games are very simple adding more cores can make the games more responsive as well.Tessellation
Well the most recent patent don't basically show that.
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#239 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]not saying this is true,but probably it can happen considering that kinect uses lot of CPU power n yet most of the games are very simple adding more cores can make the games more responsive as well.tormentos
Well the most recent patent don't basically show that.

i haven't see them,what patents?

*edit*

that still adds to the 'lot of cores'' theory.. if you want to do many things at the same time like,gaming,media,apps etc working at the same time you need lot of power to do that...

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#240 tormentos
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Tessellation"]not saying this is true,but probably it can happen considering that kinect uses lot of CPU power n yet most of the games are very simple adding more cores can make the games more responsive as well.Tessellation

Well the most recent patent don't basically show that.

i haven't see them,what patents?

*edit*

that still adds to the 'lot of cores'' theory.. if you want to do many things at the same time like,gaming,media,apps etc working at the same time you need lot of power to do that...

The 720 patent show a mixture of console and media box,apparently MS will be pushing multi media allot,so they have several CPU to handle different things,everything you add to the console add on cost. Is the reason the PS3 loss backward compatibility with the PS2,and putting a PS2 late gen chip inside the PS3 wasn't all that costly.
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#241 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Well the most recent patent don't basically show that.tormentos

i haven't see them,what patents?

*edit*

that still adds to the 'lot of cores'' theory.. if you want to do many things at the same time like,gaming,media,apps etc working at the same time you need lot of power to do that...

The 720 patent show a mixture of console and media box,apparently MS will be pushing multi media allot,so they have several CPU to handle different things,everything you add to the console add on cost. Is the reason the PS3 loss backward compatibility with the PS2,and putting a PS2 late gen chip inside the PS3 wasn't all that costly.

Consoles CPU are heavily modified to also reduce cost..just like the ones you find on ps3 and xbox 360...i don't think is going to be 16 cores but about half of that or close to it..
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#242 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

Just read the title. No, just from the title, the BS is obvious. Try putting a 7990, a 16 core cpu and an adequate power supply (at least 750w for the 7990) in a console sized box. Not even gonna talk about price, just try that, see what happens. Make sure to have a fire extinguisher nearby.

QQabitmoar

Xbox 360 put 3 CPUs (when PC had only one) and Xenos that was 10x better than the best in 2005 (7800GTX)

So, these specs are probably the very early dev kits, the 720 will be far more powerful lthan these

TDP of 360: around 250w

TDP of a 7990: gonna be around 300w

Also, you do realise the 360's RROD problems were because of overheating....right?

Sure, but the problem was in the chip attachment to the board than heat itself

Same heat as most chip resulted in disconnection from the motherboard, it was not the heat itself that was the problem

I know because i have fixed my 360 by just attaching the chip firmer to the board and then it worked fine

A heat problem is when the chip breaks or does not work due to heat, that is an actual heat problem and 360 never had such an issue

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#244 XenoNinja
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ok, so it will be more powerful that the pc for 1 week. cool
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#245 Tessellation
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ok, so it will be more powerful that the pc for 1 week. coolXenoNinja
probably few months.
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#246 PcGamingRig
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That would cost quite a bit of money if you were building a PC, I would hate to see what MS would charge for it...

Which would completely invalidate the, "PC gaming is too expensive" argument that a lot of people on this forum use.

You may aswell just buy a PC now if that is the case... as you get the upgrade room aswell.

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#247 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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can't wait ...:?

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OMG this is brilliant :lol:
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#249 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

kinect_future.png

can't wait ...:?

sts106mat

OMG this is brilliant :lol:

haha, that is quality (and quite close to reality)

It's not quality!

There is no RRoD on the Xbox.Attention to details is abysmal :P

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#250 tormentos
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Sure, but the problem was in the chip attachment to the board than heat itselfSame heat as most chip resulted in disconnection from the motherboard, it was not the heat itself that was the problemI know because i have fixed my 360 by just attaching the chip firmer to the board and then it worked fineA heat problem is when the chip breaks or does not work due to heat, that is an actual heat problem and 360 never had such an issueloosingENDS
No RROD was multiple problems,there are codes list that go from overheating to ram,CP,GPU, you name it. Heat has cause problems,the GPU got so hot that it basically dislodge from the mother board,it also happen with the CPU as well,but all those problems were cause because the xbox 360 generated allot of heat,in fact games like Gears the first one send many units to MS costumer center,because it pushed the 360 in a way other games did not,it pushed more the GPU and CPU and generated more heat. All this while the xbox 360 didn't even feature a build in power supply like the PS3 but a power brick,heat still so much of a problem on the slim that the power supply still it a power brick and not build in like in every model of the PS3,imagine how worse the problem would have been for MS if the units had a build in power supply. Hell i think MS learn a valuable lesson with the 360,R&D is crucial even with part that work fine on PC,i think MS will build the 720 much better in that regard.