PC to be destroyed next year. Xbox 720 specs= AMD 7990. 16 Core CPU, 4GB Ram

[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I can insult you for being an idiot whenever I want. Everybody here already knows it.

Wasdie

The reason I'm responding is because I know somebody out there is going to believe your sh!t.

People, don't believe him. Just please, don't believe a guy who has spammed this forum for months with nonsense. The stuff he says is not factual no matter what he says.

I know a lot of people around here have a bias to one console or another. Just because somebody is saying stuff that backs the console of your choice does not make it right. Reach3 is a very influential guy because he says what Xbox fans what to hear. Just don't believe him. You're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="reach3"] No they weren't. I cannot believe a mod is allowed to insult others. reach3

I can insult you for being an idiot whenever I want. Everybody here already knows it.

Kind of shot yourself in the foot there

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="reach3"] No they weren't. I cannot believe a mod is allowed to insult others. reach3

I can insult you for being an idiot whenever I want. Everybody here already knows it.

If you believe what you post, you really need to be commited for crimes againist common sense.

The 360's gpu was not clearly faster/better then anything out at its time of release. Lets compare

Xenos has less then 512mb(averages 256mb) of video memory at 22gb/s while able to do 240 GFLOPS.

While a Geforce 7800GTX had a full 512mb of memory at 54gb/s and could do about 200 GFLOPS.

Summary the 7800GGTX can render more stored data then the Xenos at any given time ie textures,resolutions etc however the Xenos could perform slightly faster ie more fps.

And no the 720 will not out muscle high tier pc gpu's for the sole fact of costs with the need for more cooling and power and material to be able to create a console to do so. You are really in denial if you think the next xbox will use any top ended gpu let alone a 7990 which would need more then 300w. The joke is on you reach to fact that your clearly a fanboy/troll/ and a simpleton when it comes to understanding basic computer hardware.

I know someone who is going to cry the self to sleep once the actual specs are releasedlx_theo

This thread simply amazes me...

Well,I agree with reach3,HD 7990+3 CPUs will easily fit in a 720,there won't be any TDP limitations,or pesky laws of physics getting into the way,since the console will ship with a phase-change cooler unit :lol:

-Radeon 7990

-300 bucks system

This is the worst rumor yet.:|

mitu123

This without a doubt has to be the worst rumor. Even if the console was released in 2013 or 2014 there's no way in hell would a Radeon 7990 would come down to something that is less than $200 for MS to even consider for it to be put inside a $300 console and a make profit on each Xbox 720 they sell.

This thread simply amazes me...

Well,I agree with reach3,HD 7990+3 CPUs will easily fit in a 720,there won't be any TDP limitations,or pesky laws of physics getting into the way,since the console will ship with a phase-change cooler unit :lol:

Rocker6

So will be 7990, 4gb ram, 16 core CPU.

Basically ahead of its time like 360 was. A powerhouse. Will easily be able to have 1080p, 60 fps, 8x AA in every game.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

This thread simply amazes me...

Well,I agree with reach3,HD 7990+3 CPUs will easily fit in a 720,there won't be any TDP limitations,or pesky laws of physics getting into the way,since the console will ship with a phase-change cooler unit :lol:

reach3

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

This thread simply amazes me...

Well,I agree with reach3,HD 7990+3 CPUs will easily fit in a 720,there won't be any TDP limitations,or pesky laws of physics getting into the way,since the console will ship with a phase-change cooler unit :lol:

reach3

So will be 7990, 4gb ram, 16 core CPU.

Basically ahead of its time like 360 was. A powerhouse. Will easily be able to have 1080p, 60 fps, 8x AA in every game.

Oh,I see...

So that takes us to a 7990,4GB RAM,16 core CPU,all cooled by a phase-change unit.Awesome :lol:

[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

This thread simply amazes me...

Well,I agree with reach3,HD 7990+3 CPUs will easily fit in a 720,there won't be any TDP limitations,or pesky laws of physics getting into the way,since the console will ship with a phase-change cooler unit :lol:

redskins26rocs

[QUOTE="reach3"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

This thread simply amazes me...

Well,I agree with reach3,HD 7990+3 CPUs will easily fit in a 720,there won't be any TDP limitations,or pesky laws of physics getting into the way,since the console will ship with a phase-change cooler unit :lol:

Rocker6

So will be 7990, 4gb ram, 16 core CPU.

Basically ahead of its time like 360 was. A powerhouse. Will easily be able to have 1080p, 60 fps, 8x AA in every game.

Oh,I see...

So that takes us to a 7990,4GB RAM,16 core CPU,all cooled by a phase-change unit.Awesome :lol:

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="reach3"] The 3 cpus was a mistake in the article. Read this http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Xbox-720-16-Core-CPU-xbox-next-microsoft,15285.html

So will be 7990, 4gb ram, 16 core CPU.

Basically ahead of its time like 360 was. A powerhouse. Will easily be able to have 1080p, 60 fps, 8x AA in every game.

reach3

Oh,I see...

So that takes us to a 7990,4GB RAM,16 core CPU,all cooled by a phase-change unit.Awesome :lol:

do you even know what a phase change unit is?

This is the stupid, this is the type of stupid that when you read it you just get stupid.........i can't even stop saying stupid........STUPID

[QUOTE="redskins26rocs"][QUOTE="reach3"] The 3 cpus was a mistake in the article. Read this http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Xbox-720-16-Core-CPU-xbox-next-microsoft,15285.html So will be 7990, 4gb ram, 16 core CPU. Basically ahead of its time like 360 was. A powerhouse.reach3

You tell someone that they are assuming out of thin air when you are also assuming the GPU of the next xbox out of thin air... A 7990 in a $300 console is financial suicide and overkill, and any future multiplatform games (the majority of games) would be scaled in line with the PS4 (whatever specs it may be packing) regardless.

A 7990 GPU is usually reserved for elitest PC enthuisiasts with money to blow and an 'above a top of the line' PC rig to back it up. With the next xbox, being a console, I highly doubt that it could effectively and efficiently use the 7990 to the best of it's abilities. Besides, dual GPUs love to play up and after the RROD disaster of the 360, I would safely assume that microsoft are looking to play it safe with the launch iterations of the next xbox...

And on the final note, sony is the only thing standing between complete console casualisation and the 'hardcore'-oreintated consolites (being sony itself).

[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="redskins26rocs"]For $300, can you smell profit. I can considering a 7990 will cost more than double the cost of the console. MS wants to make a profit they got a big fanbase now to sell their console without any effort. It will be cheap and very family friendly. Mario_Eater

You tell someone that they are assuming out of thin air when you are also assuming the GPU of the next xbox out of thin air... A 7990 in a $300 console is financial suicide and overkill, and any future multiplatform games (the majority of games) would be scaled in line with the PS4 (whatever specs it may be packing) regardless.

A 7990 GPU is usually reserved for elitest PC enthuisiasts with money to blow and an 'above a top of the line' PC rig to back it up. With the next xbox, being a console, I highly doubt that it could effectively and efficiently use the 7990 to the best of it's abilities. Besides, dual GPUs love to play up and after the RROD disaster of the 360, I would safely assume that microsoft are looking to play it safe with the launch iterations of the next xbox...

And on the final note, sony is the only thing standing between complete console casualisation and the 'hardcore'-oreintated consolites (being sony itself).

[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Oh,I see...

So that takes us to a 7990,4GB RAM,16 core CPU,all cooled by a phase-change unit.Awesome :lol:

lostrib

do you even know what a phase change unit is?

But that document was from 2010. They surely have upgraded to 7970 since then to repeat history as being the strongest system on release. SO final specs will be 7970 4gb ram and high end cpureach3

1. AMD Xenos was gimped to 8 ROPs/128bit wired VRAM compared 16 ROPs/256bit wired VRAM enabled AMD Radeon X1900XT.

2. What's after unified shader design shift?

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

This thread simply amazes me...

Well,I agree with reach3,HD 7990+3 CPUs will easily fit in a 720,there won't be any TDP limitations,or pesky laws of physics getting into the way,since the console will ship with a phase-change cooler unit :lol:

reach3

So will be 7990, 4gb ram, 16 core CPU.

Basically ahead of its time like 360 was. A powerhouse. Will easily be able to have 1080p, 60 fps, 8x AA in every game.

IBM PowerPC A2 16X**(~5X over Xbox 360's CPU) + AMD Radeon HD 7770 GCN (+5X over Xbox 360's GPU) is possible for Xbox 720. CPU:GPU ratio is still similar to Xbox 360.

**2.3 GHz version with 16 cores consumes 65 watts.

VS

PS4's AMD Liverpool APU, quad core AMD Streamroller (a total of four 256bit wide AVX2 FMA units) and AMD Radeon HD 7850 level GCN.

The leaked PS4 is AMD GCN GPU heavy i.e. it's the opposite of CPU(CELL) heavy PS3.

[QUOTE="reach3"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

This thread simply amazes me...

Well,I agree with reach3,HD 7990+3 CPUs will easily fit in a 720,there won't be any TDP limitations,or pesky laws of physics getting into the way,since the console will ship with a phase-change cooler unit :lol:

ronvalencia

So will be 7990, 4gb ram, 16 core CPU.

Basically ahead of its time like 360 was. A powerhouse. Will easily be able to have 1080p, 60 fps, 8x AA in every game.

IBM PowerPC A2 16X**(~5X over Xbox 360's CPU) + AMD Radeon HD 7770 (+5X over Xbox 360's GPU) is possible.

**2.3 GHz version with 16 cores consumes 65 watts.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="reach3"] The 3 cpus was a mistake in the article. Read this http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Xbox-720-16-Core-CPU-xbox-next-microsoft,15285.html

So will be 7990, 4gb ram, 16 core CPU.

Basically ahead of its time like 360 was. A powerhouse. Will easily be able to have 1080p, 60 fps, 8x AA in every game.

Iantheone

IBM PowerPC A2 16X**(~5X over Xbox 360's CPU) + AMD Radeon HD 7770 (+5X over Xbox 360's GPU) is possible.

**2.3 GHz version with 16 cores consumes 65 watts.

LoosingEnds/Reach will never accept this.

[QUOTE="reach3"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

This thread simply amazes me...

Well,I agree with reach3,HD 7990+3 CPUs will easily fit in a 720,there won't be any TDP limitations,or pesky laws of physics getting into the way,since the console will ship with a phase-change cooler unit :lol:

ronvalencia

So will be 7990, 4gb ram, 16 core CPU.

Basically ahead of its time like 360 was. A powerhouse. Will easily be able to have 1080p, 60 fps, 8x AA in every game.

IBM PowerPC A2 16X**(~5X over Xbox 360's CPU) + AMD Radeon HD 7770 GCN (+5X over Xbox 360's GPU) is possible for Xbox 720. CPU:GPU ratio is still similar to Xbox 360.

**2.3 GHz version with 16 cores consumes 65 watts.

VS

PS4's AMD Liverpool APU, quad core AMD Streamroller (a total of four 256bit wide AVX2 FMA units) and AMD Radeon HD 7850 level GCN.

The leaked PS4 is AMD GCN GPU heavy i.e. it's the opposite of CPU(CELL) heavy PS3.

Yeah,those sound like solid predictions for a console hardware...

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

IBM PowerPC A2 16X**(~5X over Xbox 360's CPU) + AMD Radeon HD 7770 (+5X over Xbox 360's GPU) is possible.

**2.3 GHz version with 16 cores consumes 65 watts.

tenaka2

LoosingEnds/Reach will never accept this.

That's fine,I love when they try to argue with ronvalencia,and how easily they get owned,due to their total lack of knowledge about hardware specs like architecture,TDP,power consumption,etc...

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Iantheone"] This is far more likely. You will never see a 7990 in a console. Rocker6

LoosingEnds/Reach will never accept this.

That's fine,I love when they try to argue with ronvalencia,and how easily they get owned,due to their total lack of knowledge about hardware specs like architecture,TDP,power consumption,etc...

I think its possibly the same user.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="reach3"] The 3 cpus was a mistake in the article. Read this http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Xbox-720-16-Core-CPU-xbox-next-microsoft,15285.html

So will be 7990, 4gb ram, 16 core CPU.

Basically ahead of its time like 360 was. A powerhouse. Will easily be able to have 1080p, 60 fps, 8x AA in every game.

Rocker6

IBM PowerPC A2 16X**(~5X over Xbox 360's CPU) + AMD Radeon HD 7770 GCN (+5X over Xbox 360's GPU) is possible for Xbox 720. CPU:GPU ratio is still similar to Xbox 360.

**2.3 GHz version with 16 cores consumes 65 watts.

VS

PS4's AMD Liverpool APU, quad core AMD Streamroller (a total of four 256bit wide AVX2 FMA units) and AMD Radeon HD 7850 level GCN.

The leaked PS4 is AMD GCN GPU heavy i.e. it's the opposite of CPU(CELL) heavy PS3.

Yeah,those sound like solid predictions for a console hardware...

PS; Future AMD APUs includes ARM Cortex A5 CPU core for security related processing i.e. Sony wasted an entire SPE unit for security related processing. Wasting one AMD Streamroller core for non-app program would be silly.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

LoosingEnds/Reach will never accept this.

tenaka2

That's fine,I love when they try to argue with ronvalencia,and how easily they get owned,due to their total lack of knowledge about hardware specs like architecture,TDP,power consumption,etc...

I think its possibly the same user.

It's possible,yeah,but I was more refering to fanboys in general,with unrealistic expectations about next consoles,and total lack of hardware knowledge.SW is simply crawling with them :)

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

That's fine,I love when they try to argue with ronvalencia,and how easily they get owned,due to their total lack of knowledge about hardware specs like architecture,TDP,power consumption,etc...

Rocker6

I think its possibly the same user.

It's possible,yeah,but I was more refering to fanboys in general,with unrealistic expectations about next consoles,and total lack of hardware knowledge.SW is simply crawling with them :)

Next gen consoles are going to be very limited, the weakest console crushed both MS and Sony this gen, all the money is with the casuals and family gaming. Sony/MS will now be aiming for that.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

This thread simply amazes me...

Well,I agree with reach3,HD 7990+3 CPUs will easily fit in a 720,there won't be any TDP limitations,or pesky laws of physics getting into the way,since the console will ship with a phase-change cooler unit :lol:

reach3

So will be 7990, 4gb ram, 16 core CPU.

Basically ahead of its time like 360 was. A powerhouse. Will easily be able to have 1080p, 60 fps, 8x AA in every game.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

That's fine,I love when they try to argue with ronvalencia,and how easily they get owned,due to their total lack of knowledge about hardware specs like architecture,TDP,power consumption,etc...

I think its possibly the same user.

It's possible,yeah,but I was more refering to fanboys in general,with unrealistic expectations about next consoles,and total lack of hardware knowledge.SW is simply crawling with them :)

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I think its possibly the same user.

tenaka2

It's possible,yeah,but I was more refering to fanboys in general,with unrealistic expectations about next consoles,and total lack of hardware knowledge.SW is simply crawling with them :)

Next gen consoles are going to be very limited, the weakest console crushed both MS and Sony this gen, all the money is with the casuals and family gaming. Sony/MS will now be aiming for that.

Yeah,I would say the same.They'll be looking for affordable hardware,to sell at profit all the time,and to not lose any money per sale,like they did this Gen,with both 360 and the PS3,they took a long time to become profitable per sale...

[QUOTE="reach3"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

This thread simply amazes me...

Well,I agree with reach3,HD 7990+3 CPUs will easily fit in a 720,there won't be any TDP limitations,or pesky laws of physics getting into the way,since the console will ship with a phase-change cooler unit :lol:

DerekLoffin

So will be 7990, 4gb ram, 16 core CPU.

Basically ahead of its time like 360 was. A powerhouse. Will easily be able to have 1080p, 60 fps, 8x AA in every game.

PowerPC A2 is not Power 5/6/7 i.e. it's closer to PPE in terms of design and targets embedded devices. It's an OK CPU core for a targeted application.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I think its possibly the same user.

ronvalencia

It's possible,yeah,but I was more refering to fanboys in general,with unrealistic expectations about next consoles,and total lack of hardware knowledge.SW is simply crawling with them :)

True,but such bussiness decision would be a total trainwreck,and console makers don't want any more losses.They had their fair share with 360 and PS3,as both took years to become profitable per unit sold...

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

IBM PowerPC A2 16X**(~5X over Xbox 360's CPU) + AMD Radeon HD 7770 GCN (+5X over Xbox 360's GPU) is possible for Xbox 720. CPU:GPU ratio is still similar to Xbox 360.

**2.3 GHz version with 16 cores consumes 65 watts.

VS

PS4's AMD Liverpool APU, quad core AMD Streamroller (a total of four 256bit wide AVX2 FMA units) and AMD Radeon HD 7850 level GCN.

The leaked PS4 is AMD GCN GPU heavy i.e. it's the opposite of CPU(CELL) heavy PS3.

ronvalencia

Yeah,those sound like solid predictions for a console hardware...

PS; Future AMD APUs includes ARM Cortex A5 CPU core for security related processing i.e. Sony wasted an entire SPE unit for security related processing. Wasting one AMD Streamroller core for non-app program would be silly.

Didn't know about it,quite nice,a very useful feature :)

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Yeah,those sound like solid predictions for a console hardware...

Rocker6

PS; Future AMD APUs includes ARM Cortex A5 CPU core for security related processing i.e. Sony wasted an entire SPE unit for security related processing. Wasting one AMD Streamroller core for non-app program would be silly.

Didn't know about it,quite nice,a very useful feature :)

Carefull, it's hardware for "trusted computing". It's similar to Intel's version.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6007/amd-2013-apus-to-include-arm-cortexa5-processor-for-trustzone-capabilities

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Iantheone"] This is far more likely. You will never see a 7990 in a console. Rocker6

LoosingEnds/Reach will never accept this.

That's fine,I love when they try to argue with ronvalencia,and how easily they get owned,due to their total lack of knowledge about hardware specs like architecture,TDP,power consumption,etc...

I am highly knowledgable with hardware thank you, much more so than you. reach3

That's what you think.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

LoosingEnds/Reach will never accept this.

reach3

That's fine,I love when they try to argue with ronvalencia,and how easily they get owned,due to their total lack of knowledge about hardware specs like architecture,TDP,power consumption,etc...

No you are not, you are an idiot.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

LoosingEnds/Reach will never accept this.

reach3

That's fine,I love when they try to argue with ronvalencia,and how easily they get owned,due to their total lack of knowledge about hardware specs like architecture,TDP,power consumption,etc...

[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

That's fine,I love when they try to argue with ronvalencia,and how easily they get owned,due to their total lack of knowledge about hardware specs like architecture,TDP,power consumption,etc...

Inconsistancy

Haha,nice one :)

Also,I'd take a moment to thank reach3 for providing a new line for my sig.So thank you,reach :)

[QUOTE="James161324"]

299.99 does not equal 7990, 7990 will cost about a grand. If they want a 300 dollar system, quad core, 4 gb of ram, 250 gb hd, and some like a 6850/460

reach3

As I said in my updated OP, No point in building a pc when 720 costs $300 and has betetr hardware than even a $2000 pc will have. Why build $2000 pc when I can get a $300 720 will far superior hardware and Kinect V2? Its like a steal really. Hell even 360 is producing mind blowing graphics ot hold me over. with these specs, Halo 5 will have Avatar graphics like AMD said

As I said in my updated OP, No point in building a pc when 720 costs $300 and has betetr hardware than even a $2000 pc will have. Why build $2000 pc when I can get a $300 720 will far superior hardware and Kinect V2? Its like a steal really. Hell even 360 is producing mind blowing graphics ot hold me over. with these specs, Halo 5 will have Avatar graphics like AMD said

reach3

Even a supersampled bullshot totally falls flat compared to almost any modern PC game.You're embarassing yourself here,reach...

And you'll embarass yourself further when "720" specs come out.Sorry,console makers won't keep focusing on raw power anymore...

Finally,do you even realize what sort of computing power you'd need to render Avatar like graphics in real time?!

But that's fine,the more hyped you get about "720",the more delicious your tears of dissapointment will taste ;)

[QUOTE="reach3"]

As I said in my updated OP, No point in building a pc when 720 costs $300 and has betetr hardware than even a $2000 pc will have. Why build $2000 pc when I can get a $300 720 will far superior hardware and Kinect V2? Its like a steal really. Hell even 360 is producing mind blowing graphics ot hold me over. with these specs, Halo 5 will have Avatar graphics like AMD said

Rocker6

Even a supersampled bullshot totally falls flat compared to almost any modern PC game.You're embarassing yourself here,reach...

And you'll embarass yourself further when 720 specs come out.Sorry,console makers won't keep focusing on raw power anymore...

You're making X360 owners desperate.

sure and it will only cost three-thousand dollars.

Did you not hear me? AMD said 720 will have Avatar graphcis and people doubting. Now these specs will make it reality. Halo 5 and every game on 720 will blow PC graphics to the moonreach3

I edited my post above to acknowledge the part about Avatar graphics...