PS Vita gets slaughtered in France

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[QUOTE="e_stone001"] Well in your comment it sounds like you're mentioning the hardware issue along so you're really making it sound like the hardware sucks when it's not and putting software sales separate. But anyways give it time. Never doubt a system at early release. e_stone001

You Vita fans think that just because Nintendo turned 3DS around that Vita still has a chance? :lol:

Nintendo had room to drop the price and huge portable franchises to save it. Vita has nothing.

Somebody forgot to tell this kid the PSP was a huge success in comparison to the Vita.

You will be lucky if Vita sees 1/3rd of the games or sales of the PSP.

I think it will be discontinued personally.

Wow, wonder what Sony will get me for buying one early when they discontinue...

RandomWinner

This isn't really a surprise at this point. Question is, how will Sony respond to these disappointing sales?

I'm personally hoping for a price cut or redesign (which are really their only two options at this point). I'd pick one up if it was as cheap as the 3DS, and had full backwards compatibility.

lol cows.

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="p4s2p0"] The tech like 5" screen,built in dual analogs,Six-axis motion sensing, multitouch newer than resistive on 3ds. not that there's anything wrong with 3ds but vita is what I've always wanted in a portableDeadMan1290

Except an iPad or PC are completely over expensive compared to a Vita. Especially the iPad.

Yet people are still buying waay more PCs and iPads then a Vita

here are the arguements so far for the reasons the Vita's sales are just horrible.. no matter how we slice it we have to face these facts.

1. Some just wholly blame the economy- yet this is contradicted by the high purchases in iPads, PCs, 3DS and Consoles.

2. some just say the games are geared towards a Western audience- Is this a positive or a negative?

3. Some people just blame bad marketing or not enough of it- Is there any figures or stats to confirm or discard this other then just opinion and taste?

4. Apart from just appealing to ones own opinion and bias on the PS Vita and the current games how does it any way answer or solve why the PS Vita sales are as low as they are?

5. Is there an agreement on which market/region matters for the PS Vita? or is it only the one which one has bought the most?

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]The problem is with that is Sony may not be able to afford a price cut any time soon. They are already losing so much on each one sold. HarlockJC

That's my biggest problem with Sony. They're too concentrated on high technology and other features that would make the handheld more expensive rather then concentrating on simpler features for the machine.

The PS Vita does have gimmicks fron a touch screen, back touch, a camera for Augmented reality gaming, it's packed with gimmicks.

france =/= world so what ev. the vita is slaughtering the competition

france =/= world so what ev. the vita is slaughtering the competition

_SWAG_

Where?

Well in your comment it sounds like you're mentioning the hardware issue along so you're really making it sound like the hardware sucks when it's not and putting software sales separate. But anyways give it time. Never doubt a system at early release. _SWAG_

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]

That's my biggest problem with Sony. They're too concentrated on high technology and other features that would make the handheld more expensive rather then concentrating on simpler features for the machine.

AdmiralBison

The PS Vita does have gimmicks fron a touch screen, back touch, a camera for Augmented reality gaming, it's packed with gimmicks.

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"] matter how we slice it we have to face these facts. 1. Some just wholly blame the economy- yet this is contradicted by the high purchases in iPads, PCs, 3DS and Consoles.brofists

They are not the exception. Android also sells so does the 3DS

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"] That the problem with Sony has a whole. If they would have came out with a gimmick to sell the Vita rather than make a more powerful system it would have been more successful. brofists

The PS Vita does have gimmicks fron a touch screen, back touch, a camera for Augmented reality gaming, it's packed with gimmicks.

WThat's not the point.

If people are pointing out that the 3DS is selling because of it's gimmicks then that doesn't explain why the DS sold so well or explain how come Vita isn't since it has so many gimmicks.

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"] matter how we slice it we have to face these facts. 1. Some just wholly blame the economy- yet this is contradicted by the high purchases in iPads, PCs, 3DS and Consoles.brofists

also you can disagree with me all you want, I'm not the one here who has to contend the reason why the Vita sells so poorly.

OK TC, whatever, but did you really have to tell us that France is in Europe? You must really think we are all brilliant here.

The 3DS may actually have an advantage over the Vita since children who can't get a smart phone can get a 3DS at a reasonable price. Vita is pretty much only going to appeal to adults, and I think smart phones may be killing it's chances in a very brutal way. It's too bad, because I don't see Apple or Samsung making tablets with joysticks, and that's about the only thing that could truly replace a handheld game system (even though handhelds will probably be extinct long before anyone considers making true gaming tablets).Timstuff

what about that tablet with the two Move controllers on the side?

Apparently not that many people didn't like that here on SW.

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france =/= world so what ev. the vita is slaughtering the competition

lundy86_4

Where?

In the minds of fanboys. It's no secret that the PS Vita is a failure in Japan, North America and Europe.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

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france =/= world so what ev. the vita is slaughtering the competition

Tikeio

Where?

In the minds of fanboys. It's no secret that the PS Vita is a failure in Japan, North America and Europe.

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Where?

campzor

In the minds of fanboys. It's no secret that the PS Vita is a failure in Japan, North America and Europe.

its doing better than the 3ds in antarctica though.. HAcampzor

Don't forget Slovakia and Romania. Sony is killing it.

[QUOTE="campzor"]its doing better than the 3ds in antarctica though.. HAwaltefmoney

Don't forget Slovakia and Romania. Sony is killing it.

Antarctica, Slovakia and Romania are now the biggest gaming markets in the world. Sony Domination Continuation in full force confirmed.

Sony Domination Continuation

Tikeio

Together, my fellow cows, SW will be ours.

Sony might as well just pull out the white flag in France.

Then again that might actually attract more customers there.

DJ-Lafleur

I hear the VITA is dominating in Brazil and India.

SOURCE

I hear the VITA is dominating in Brazil and India.

SOURCE

D4W1L4H

I live in Spain and travel a lot to France, never saw anyone with a vita on their hands (but quite some 3DS, specially on the metro).

Although the number 1 champion on the street is still the DS.

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france =/= world so what ev. the vita is slaughtering the competition

Tikeio

Where?

In the minds of fanboys. It's no secret that the PS Vita is a failure in Japan, North America and Europe.

Sony clearly went into the Vita's launch with low expectations. It's just obvious. From their lack of marketing to the low amount of retail space they seem to demand, its clear that Sony didn't really expect grand sales. At least for now.

The thing is they've seemingly only targeted the hardcore PS3 owner. There's not many of us out there. It's not as deep of a pool that the 3DS is after. Nintendo is aggresively trying to lure in hardcore gamers AND kids. That's abigger market right there. So even though the 3DS game library is filled with "casual" shovelware, it works both ways. Lots of parents will buy a 3DS for their kids, and the higher sales numbers will convince more 3rd party publishers to create great games for the 3DS. Combine that with Nintendo's unique ability to sell their 1st party games in the MASSES and more great games for the 3DS equals more hardcore gamers jumping ship and buying a 3DS.

I have a feeling that Nintendo's E3 2012, is going to have some really killer 3DS titles, because of how many 3DS's currently are in people's hands.

Who does Sony have to buy the Vita other than a minority of hardcore PS3 owners? There just aren't enough of us out there to get the Vita's sales numbers way up. So what I think is going to happen, is after Resistance launches, Sony will aggresively try and tap the "broskimainstream gamer". I'm friends with a bunch of people like that. Basically people who like games, like shooters, and have no idea what a gaming forum is. Not hardcore gamers like us, but they do spend a lot of time playing COD/Battlefield/etc. There are a LOT of people like this.

So maybe after Resistance launches, we'll see some more aggressive marketing. We'll maybe see some more bundles down the line to make things more appealing. And maybe a drastic price drop sometime near the holidays. If Sony can generate interest amongst those gamers, they can definetely move units in the holiday season, and in turn get more 3rd party support. I have a feeling that Sony is really just testing the waters right now. Just hoping that word of mouth, and some lousy commercials can make this device stand afloat until they go balls out during the holidays.

Because thinking about it logically, if they don't start changing up their marketing tactics and such laterthis device just won't succeed. Sony has to be smart enough to realize that hardcore gamers alone can NOT support a system.

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france =/= world so what ev. the vita is slaughtering the competition

Tikeio

Where?

In the minds of fanboys. It's no secret that the PS Vita is a failure in Japan, North America and Europe.

Pretty much :lol:

Sony really needs to pull a Nintendo with PSV. I want to purchase one within the year but I can't do so if Sony doesn't assure us it has a good future with great Japanese dev support.

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"] That the problem with Sony has a whole. If they would have came out with a gimmick to sell the Vita rather than make a more powerful system it would have been more successful. brofists

The PS Vita does have gimmicks fron a touch screen, back touch, a camera for Augmented reality gaming, it's packed with gimmicks.

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Where?

p4s2p0

In the minds of fanboys. It's no secret that the PS Vita is a failure in Japan, North America and Europe.

>assuming the PS Vita was stocked in large quantities

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

The numbers for the PS Vita's launch in France are in, and they're... terrible.

The system sold 66,000 units in its launch month in France. Sounds good, right? Wrong.

As French economic newspaper Les Echos reveals, this is the single worst launch for any system in France in history.

Of those 66,000 units, a full 42,000 units were sold in the first week, pointing to a tapering interest in the system. Last week, the system sold only 5,000 units in the country, and was outsold by the 3DS.

Things like this have already started to happen to a system that is barely a month old, in its strongest territory (remember, mainland Europe is Sony land)... the Vita has had a horrible launch worldwide, in every single territory, worse than the 3DS, and this is just bizarre, given the fact that the 3DS launched at the same price with inferior tech, a pathetic launch lineup, most of its functionality missing, and more. The Vita launches with state of the art hardware and some great hardware, and it flounders.

The Vita's future may be very bleak.

To summarize:

• PS Vita sells poorly in France
• France is the second biggest EU market, and fourth biggest worldwide
• France is part of Europe, which has been Sony's stronghold since 1995
• PS Vita's launch in France is the poorest launch for a system in the country in history
• It is already being outsold by the 3DS

Sony needs to do something, and fast.

Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

Sony Domination Continuation

waltefmoney

Together, my fellow cows, SW will be ours.

YAY! You are the 1st to quote me and have it as a sig :lol: Remember tho "at least Sony's tablet will have multitouch" lol

Looks like those cheese eating surrender monkey's arent willing to shell out that kind of cash for a dedicated gaming machine either.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]

The numbers for the PS Vita's launch in France are in, and they're... terrible.

The system sold 66,000 units in its launch month in France. Sounds good, right? Wrong.

As French economic newspaper Les Echos reveals, this is the single worst launch for any system in France in history.

Of those 66,000 units, a full 42,000 units were sold in the first week, pointing to a tapering interest in the system. Last week, the system sold only 5,000 units in the country, and was outsold by the 3DS.

Things like this have already started to happen to a system that is barely a month old, in its strongest territory (remember, mainland Europe is Sony land)... the Vita has had a horrible launch worldwide, in every single territory, worse than the 3DS, and this is just bizarre, given the fact that the 3DS launched at the same price with inferior tech, a pathetic launch lineup, most of its functionality missing, and more. The Vita launches with state of the art hardware and some great hardware, and it flounders.

The Vita's future may be very bleak.

To summarize:

• PS Vita sells poorly in France
• France is the second biggest EU market, and fourth biggest worldwide
• France is part of Europe, which has been Sony's stronghold since 1995
• PS Vita's launch in France is the poorest launch for a system in the country in history
• It is already being outsold by the 3DS

Sony needs to do something, and fast.

Ratchet_Fan8

Sony clearly went into the Vita's launch with low expectations. It's just obvious. From their lack of marketing to the low amount of retail space they seem to demand, its clear that Sony didn't really expect grand sales. At least for now.

The thing is they've seemingly only targeted the hardcore PS3 owner. There's not many of us out there. It's not as deep of a pool that the 3DS is after. Nintendo is aggresively trying to lure in hardcore gamers AND kids. That's abigger market right there. So even though the 3DS game library is filled with "casual" shovelware, it works both ways. Lots of parents will buy a 3DS for their kids, and the higher sales numbers will convince more 3rd party publishers to create great games for the 3DS. Combine that with Nintendo's unique ability to sell their 1st party games in the MASSES and more great games for the 3DS equals more hardcore gamers jumping ship and buying a 3DS.

I have a feeling that Nintendo's E3 2012, is going to have some really killer 3DS titles, because of how many 3DS's currently are in people's hands.

Who does Sony have to buy the Vita other than a minority of hardcore PS3 owners? There just aren't enough of us out there to get the Vita's sales numbers way up. So what I think is going to happen, is after Resistance launches, Sony will aggresively try and tap the "broskimainstream gamer". I'm friends with a bunch of people like that. Basically people who like games, like shooters, and have no idea what a gaming forum is. Not hardcore gamers like us, but they do spend a lot of time playing COD/Battlefield/etc. There are a LOT of people like this.

So maybe after Resistance launches, we'll see some more aggressive marketing. We'll maybe see some more bundles down the line to make things more appealing. And maybe a drastic price drop sometime near the holidays. If Sony can generate interest amongst those gamers, they can definetely move units in the holiday season, and in turn get more 3rd party support. I have a feeling that Sony is really just testing the waters right now. Just hoping that word of mouth, and some lousy commercials can make this device stand afloat until they go balls out during the holidays.

Because thinking about it logically, if they don't start changing up their marketing tactics and such laterthis device just won't succeed. Sony has to be smart enough to realize that hardcore gamers alone can NOT support a system.

phantomblade220

spot on,

but no one will listen to this guy, everyone is too busy feeding thier own fanboy BS

UK is not in EU.So France takes the #2nd place in Euion.As for Globally,not sure where the 4th comes from but it cant be too far from itRatchet_Fan8

Please don't say that ever again :? You should learn the members of the EU.

france is plagued by the iCult.

I don't care what the French are buying and neither should you.SolidSnake35

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france =/= world so what ev. the vita is slaughtering the competition

lundy86_4

Where?

In the middle of nowhere obviously.

In the middle of nowhere obviously.

Wanderer5

Naturally. In other news, who the Hell have France ever slaughtered? :lol: