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#51 Kolev_Plus
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

[QUOTE="gregbmil"]

Yes it does. Just about everything on 360 is on PS3. Then PS3 has tons of exclusives. Anyone who disagrees needs to look at the facts and stop kidding themselfs

finalstar2007

...except whats most important, the Halo series.

Garbage like halo is important? since when? CoD easily kills it and kills every single shooter out there

Cause it's a Multiplat that's easy for children like you to get in to and the only skill that is involved is battle of who's Connection is better.
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#52 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

...except whats most important, the Halo series.

Kolev_Plus

MGS4 is 100 times more important than Halo.

Lol. No.

LOL, yes.

+1 for your great argument.

Halo is another one of those AAAs that just get forgotten at the end of the year @ GOTY awards

MGS4 is that AAAA that steals every award.

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#53 super600  Moderator
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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"] Alan Wake:Night Springs aint DLC. It's an announced XBLA title IIRC.Kolev_Plus

The dude incorrectly posted Alan Wake 1 Night Springsinstead of Alan Wake Night Springs which confused me.

It wasn't incorrect. He was grouping the Alan Wake series together, like he did with Fable 2-3-Journey, he put Alan Wake 1-Night Springs. Though now that I look at that that is a tad confusing trhough lol

Anyway he's still using unreleased games as ownage as seen through games like Alan Wake Night Springs, Ryse and more.

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#54 Kolev_Plus
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[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] MGS4 is 100 times more important than Halo.Mozelleple112

Lol. No.

LOL, yes.

+1 for your great argument.

I'm sorry I must have missed the Metal Gear Solid 4 tournament on MLG and the 8 Million salesfigure. But you enjoyed the game more and thus it is 100 times more important than Halo.
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#55 Kolev_Plus
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[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"][QUOTE="super600"]

The dude incorrectly posted Alan Wake 1 Night Springsinstead of Alan Wake Night Springs which confused me.

super600

It wasn't incorrect. He was grouping the Alan Wake series together, like he did with Fable 2-3-Journey, he put Alan Wake 1-Night Springs. Though now that I look at that that is a tad confusing trhough lol

Anyway he's still using unreleased games as ownage as seen through games like Alan Wake Night Springs, Ryse and more.

Yeah his list is fail
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#56 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

[QUOTE="gregbmil"]

Yes it does. Just about everything on 360 is on PS3. Then PS3 has tons of exclusives. Anyone who disagrees needs to look at the facts and stop kidding themselfs

Mozelleple112

...except whats most important, the Halo series.

MGS4 is 100 times more important than Halo.

Rofl no. Not a reflection on MGS4's quality but MGS4 did nothing for this industry. Halo did.

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#57 super600  Moderator
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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"] It wasn't incorrect. He was grouping the Alan Wake series together, like he did with Fable 2-3-Journey, he put Alan Wake 1-Night Springs. Though now that I look at that that is a tad confusing trhough lolKolev_Plus

Anyway he's still using unreleased games as ownage as seen through games like Alan Wake Night Springs, Ryse and more.

Yeah his list is fail

His list is an epic fail, but saolin/ablefable/theseeker will never accept that his list is an epic fail.

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#58 ActionRemix
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MGS4 is AAAAA
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#59 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

...except whats most important, the Halo series.

Kolev_Plus

Garbage like halo is important? since when? CoD easily kills it and kills every single shooter out there

Cause it's a Multiplat that's easy for children like you to get in to and the only skill that is involved is battle of who's Connection is better.

1 CoD game alone outsells everything on the 360 ever was released, Mw3 xbox version on the box clearly says " The BEST-Selling FRANCHISE in Xbox360's HISTORY" is there for a reason not just because its a multiplat but nice try. CoD>> any FPS on any system :cool:

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#60 Kolev_Plus
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[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Garbage like halo is important? since when? CoD easily kills it and kills every single shooter out there

finalstar2007

Cause it's a Multiplat that's easy for children like you to get in to and the only skill that is involved is battle of who's Connection is better.

1 CoD game alone outsells everything on the 360 ever was released, Mw3 xbox version on the box clearly says " The BEST-Selling FRANCHISE in Xbox360's HISTORY" is there for a reason not just because its a multiplat but nice try. CoD>> any FPS on any system :cool:

We're playing Sales figures? So you agree the 360>PS3?
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#61 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Garbage like halo is important? since when? CoD easily kills it and kills every single shooter out there

finalstar2007

Cause it's a Multiplat that's easy for children like you to get in to and the only skill that is involved is battle of who's Connection is better.

1 CoD game alone outsells everything on the 360 ever was released, Mw3 xbox version on the box clearly says " The BEST-Selling FRANCHISE in Xbox360's HISTORY" is there for a reason not just because its a multiplat but nice try. CoD>> any FPS on any system :cool:

Rofl, sales is your defence. If you like CoD cool. Its still hardly the unarguable definitive FPS title however.

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#62 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"] Cause it's a Multiplat that's easy for children like you to get in to and the only skill that is involved is battle of who's Connection is better.ActicEdge

1 CoD game alone outsells everything on the 360 ever was released, Mw3 xbox version on the box clearly says " The BEST-Selling FRANCHISE in Xbox360's HISTORY" is there for a reason not just because its a multiplat but nice try. CoD>> any FPS on any system :cool:

Rofl, sales is your defence. If you like CoD cool. Its still hardly the unarguable definitive FPS title however.

Not really, i just mentioned it but if you want more then sure, most played game ever on any system, most hours/days/weeks/months and years that been put into this game than any other game, the game with the highest count of people playing it every second on any system, most talked about in the real world since internetz hatez it and so on. its the leader of FPS for a reason. now im out cuz i dont want to turn this into a CoD thread lol. haters dont agree? well sorry and deal with it!

*goes to do more MW3*

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#63 vashkey
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

1 CoD game alone outsells everything on the 360 ever was released, Mw3 xbox version on the box clearly says " The BEST-Selling FRANCHISE in Xbox360's HISTORY" is there for a reason not just because its a multiplat but nice try. CoD>> any FPS on any system :cool:

finalstar2007

Rofl, sales is your defence. If you like CoD cool. Its still hardly the unarguable definitive FPS title however.

Not really, i just mentioned it but if you want more then sure, most played game ever on any system, most hours/days/weeks/months and years that been put into this game than any other game, the game with the highest count of people playing it every second on any system, most talked about in the real world since internetz hatez it and so on. its the leader of FPS for a reason. now im out cuz i dont want to turn this into a CoD thread lol. haters dont agree? well sorry and deal with it!

*goes to do more MW3*

Pathetic that a cow would play numbers.

Go get a Wii and a copy of Mario Kart if big numbers is all you need to enjoy a game.

That or at least learn to do little more than half ass a debate.

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#64 Kolev_Plus
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

1 CoD game alone outsells everything on the 360 ever was released, Mw3 xbox version on the box clearly says " The BEST-Selling FRANCHISE in Xbox360's HISTORY" is there for a reason not just because its a multiplat but nice try. CoD>> any FPS on any system :cool:

finalstar2007

Rofl, sales is your defence. If you like CoD cool. Its still hardly the unarguable definitive FPS title however.

Not really, i just mentioned it but if you want more then sure, most played game ever on any system, most hours/days/weeks/months and years that been put into this game than any other game, the game with the highest count of people playing it every second on any system, most talked about in the real world since internetz hatez it and so on. its the leader of FPS for a reason. now im out cuz i dont want to turn this into a CoD thread lol. haters dont agree? well sorry and deal with it!

*goes to do more MW3*

You answer him but not me? Just goes to show how full of s*** you are and the double standards of your fanboyism
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[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] MGS4 is 100 times more important than Halo.Mozelleple112

Lol. No.

LOL, yes.

+1 for your great argument.

Halo is another one of those AAAs that just get forgotten at the end of the year @ GOTY awards

MGS4 is that AAAA that steals every award.

then why did fallout 3 win goty that year at gdc?
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#66 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

1 CoD game alone outsells everything on the 360 ever was released, Mw3 xbox version on the box clearly says " The BEST-Selling FRANCHISE in Xbox360's HISTORY" is there for a reason not just because its a multiplat but nice try. CoD>> any FPS on any system :cool:

finalstar2007

Rofl, sales is your defence. If you like CoD cool. Its still hardly the unarguable definitive FPS title however.

Not really, i just mentioned it but if you want more then sure, most played game ever on any system, most hours/days/weeks/months and years that been put into this game than any other game, the game with the highest count of people playing it every second on any system, most talked about in the real world since internetz hatez it and so on. its the leader of FPS for a reason. now im out cuz i dont want to turn this into a CoD thread lol. haters dont agree? well sorry and deal with it!

*goes to do more MW3*

So its the most popular game ever basically? Does that make it the best? I'm not here to say COD sucks, I'm here to say your reasoning sucks, which it does.

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#67 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Rofl, sales is your defence. If you like CoD cool. Its still hardly the unarguable definitive FPS title however.

Kolev_Plus

Not really, i just mentioned it but if you want more then sure, most played game ever on any system, most hours/days/weeks/months and years that been put into this game than any other game, the game with the highest count of people playing it every second on any system, most talked about in the real world since internetz hatez it and so on. its the leader of FPS for a reason. now im out cuz i dont want to turn this into a CoD thread lol. haters dont agree? well sorry and deal with it!

*goes to do more MW3*

You answer him but not me? Just goes to show how full of s*** you are and the double standards of your fanboyism

I've got a little more than 1 day, 2 levels and under 100 posts in my belt :P

Don't worry about him, he is absolutely the last person you want to waste your time debating with.

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#68 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Rofl, sales is your defence. If you like CoD cool. Its still hardly the unarguable definitive FPS title however.

vashkey

Not really, i just mentioned it but if you want more then sure, most played game ever on any system, most hours/days/weeks/months and years that been put into this game than any other game, the game with the highest count of people playing it every second on any system, most talked about in the real world since internetz hatez it and so on. its the leader of FPS for a reason. now im out cuz i dont want to turn this into a CoD thread lol. haters dont agree? well sorry and deal with it!

*goes to do more MW3*

Pathetic that a cow would play numbers.

Go get a Wii and a copy of Mario Kart if big numbers is all you need to enjoy a game.

That or at least learn to do little more than half ass a debate.

Lol, I was having a laugh at the cow playing sales thing myself.

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#69 coasterguy65
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Look another PS3 fanboy thinking the only exclusives that matter are ones released after 2009.

After all the only exclusives on the 360 are Halo and Gears am I right, or am I right?:roll:

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#70 clone01
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From games like 3D Dot heroes, Ratchet and Clank, and Demon's Soulsto games like Uncharted, Killzone, Infamous, MGS4, Resistance and many many others. SONY really delivered with games this gen. Microsoft delivered Halo, again. Gears is ok minus the rampant screen tearing(Shout out to V Sync FTW!) Fable(tears to hell and back as well). M$ has very unprofessional developers, they can't even V Sync exclusives because the tech is so dated on 360. How the hell does M$ sell so many consoles? I know the online is better, but c'mon, any real hardcore gamer would want a PS3 over an XBOX 360. Say whatever you want or would like to think, SONY out did themselves with high quality exlcusives only available on PS3 because of the system's power.

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Sure thing. If you say so.

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Well the PS3 has been the definitive console this gen in terms high quality excuses. TWO new IPs winning GOTY awards this gen is unheard of, but Sony pulled iit off. Can't argue with facts.
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is there for a reason not just because its a multiplat but nice tryfinalstar2007
Sales? lolololololol. That is rich.
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#73 Spartan070
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1 CoD game alone outsells everything on the 360 ever was released, Mw3 xbox version on the box clearly says " The BEST-Selling FRANCHISE in Xbox360's HISTORY" is there for a reason not just because its a multiplat but nice try. CoD>> any FPS on any system :cool:

finalstar2007

Xbox is The House that Halo Built. GTA and Madden ruled for a decade but were they the best games of the decade? :lol:

I like COD as a quality game but to compare it to the Halo franchise???

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From games like 3D Dot heroes, Ratchet and Clank, and Demon's Soulsto games like Uncharted, Killzone, Infamous, MGS4, Resistance and many many others. SONY really delivered with games this gen. Microsoft delivered Halo, again. Gears is ok minus the rampant screen tearing(Shout out to V Sync FTW!) Fable(tears to hell and back as well). M$ has very unprofessional developers, they can't even V Sync exclusives because the tech is so dated on 360. How the hell does M$ sell so many consoles? I know the online is better, but c'mon, any real hardcore gamer would want a PS3 over an XBOX 360. Say whatever you want or would like to think, SONY out did themselves with high quality exlcusives only available on PS3 because of the system's power.

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Pc

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The PS3 offers more diverse gaming choices than the PC.
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#76 Headpopper333
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lol already been proven wrong like badly it was shown throughou the high scoring exclusive library there were only like 13-14 genres represented with the 360 having 15-16.

WilliamRLBaker

MGS4 AND UNCHARTED 3 BOTH SCORED PERFECT TENS FROM IGN, WHAT 360 EXCLUSIVE FROM THAT AMAZING LIST OF YOURSSCOREDA PERFECT SCORE? OH WAIT....

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The PS3 offers more diverse gaming choices than the PC. Barsy7
rts,mmo,f2p,simulators,turn based strategy,adventures.that is all

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#78 Headpopper333
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Well the PS3 has been the definitive console this gen in terms high quality excuses. TWO new IPs winning GOTY awards this gen is unheard of, but Sony pulled iit off. Can't argue with facts.rasengan2552

SO TRUE

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Unless you live in japan , PS3 and Xbox360 share the majority of game releases. The Wii kinda gets left out due to hardware limitations. The xbox360 kinda bombed in japan so the PS3 is pretty much king over there with tons of JRPG's the west never sees.

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If you like (largely) second-rate franchises that were designed solely to compete with another series on another platform, sure. Resistance, Killzone (Killzone 2 aside), Uncharted, inFamous, etc.

They're are better multiplat and exclusive franchises in every one of the genre they are competing in.Ironically, the best games on the system aren't even made by Sony studios. I'll give you diverse, but best?

Maybe when Sony stops following.

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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]Well the PS3 has been the definitive console this gen in terms high quality excuses. TWO new IPs winning GOTY awards this gen is unheard of, but Sony pulled iit off. Can't argue with facts.Headpopper333

SO TRUE

not really.

-MGS isn't a new IP

-the PC had 3 GOTY games last gen. in which all the IPs were actually new while also disproving that it isn't something 'unheard' of.

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[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Garbage like halo is important? since when? CoD easily kills it and kills every single shooter out there

finalstar2007

Cause it's a Multiplat that's easy for children like you to get in to and the only skill that is involved is battle of who's Connection is better.

1 CoD game alone outsells everything on the 360 ever was released, Mw3 xbox version on the box clearly says " The BEST-Selling FRANCHISE in Xbox360's HISTORY" is there for a reason not just because its a multiplat but nice try. CoD>> any FPS on any system :cool:

it's there because it sells the most, not because it's of the highest quality.

but if you want things that way then:

-Wii sports is the best game this gen.

-Wii is the best console, followed by 360 and then the PS3.

-COD is the best franchise on 360 as well as PS3.

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Yes it does. Just about everything on 360 is on PS3. Then PS3 has tons of exclusives. Anyone who disagrees needs to look at the facts and stop kidding themselfs

gregbmil
Hmm, nah. It has it's fair share of exclusives and it may have caught up with the 360 in that area. When it launched there wasn't a lot of exclusives that anyone wanted to buy, therefore the cheaper option was the 360. After MGS4 and GOW3 came out it started looking promising. Now, within the last 2 years, Sony has released it's fair share of new IPs, and is on par with Microsoft in exclusives.
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[QUOTE="Barsy7"]The PS3 offers more diverse gaming choices than the PC. shreshto

rts,mmo,f2p,simulators,turn based strategy,adventures.that is all

Exactly, all the stuff that matters.
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#85 mitu123
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[QUOTE="gregbmil"]

Yes it does. Just about everything on 360 is on PS3. Then PS3 has tons of exclusives. Anyone who disagrees needs to look at the facts and stop kidding themselfs

loosingENDS

My top games this generation are

1. Dark Souls

2. Witcher 2

3. Skyrim

4. Fable 2-3-Jouney

5. Lost Odyssey

6. Alan Wake 1-Night Springs

7. Blue Dragon

8. Mass effect 1

9. Project Draco

10. Dust Elysian Tale

11. Tales of Vesperia

12. Ryse

13. Halo 3-Reach

14. Gears 1-2-3

15. Bastion

.

And none is a PS3 exclusive, all are on xbox 360 though

Some of those games aren't even out yet...

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#86 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

[QUOTE="gregbmil"]

Yes it does. Just about everything on 360 is on PS3. Then PS3 has tons of exclusives. Anyone who disagrees needs to look at the facts and stop kidding themselfs

finalstar2007

...except whats most important, the Halo series.

Garbage like halo is important? since when? CoD easily kills it and kills every single shooter out there

In sales, yes. Quality varies.

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#87 godzillavskong
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

...except whats most important, the Halo series.

mitu123

Garbage like halo is important? since when? CoD easily kills it and kills every single shooter out there

In sales, yes. Quality varies.

I agree. Halo has some of the best presentation and I think the best COD is #4. That was the one that started the craze! I don't see why people call Halo garbage. There is no denying that it is a good game. While it may not live up to some peoples expectations, it is far from garbage.
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#88 Merex760
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I agree it's the most diverse of the major three consoles. They have all of the major genres covered.
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#89 DroidPhysX
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I would agree.

In terms of my own library I only have Gears 1 & 2 (triple pack on black friday) and Reach.

Reach is avearge at best for me. It's not a terrible game, its just that I don't get into it as others do.

For the PS3, I have GOW3, Heavy Rain, KZ3, UC2, UC3 being shipped soon from Amazon, MGS4, inFamous, LBP and a few others I'm missing.

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#90 mems_1224
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Yes it does. Just about everything on 360 is on PS3. Then PS3 has tons of exclusives. Anyone who disagrees needs to look at the facts and stop kidding themselfs

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more exclusives=/=better
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#91 xXShortroundXx
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[QUOTE="gregbmil"]

Yes it does. Just about everything on 360 is on PS3. Then PS3 has tons of exclusives. Anyone who disagrees needs to look at the facts and stop kidding themselfs

Spartan070

...except whats most important, the Halo series.

Haha, to be polite, Halo is a little bit garbage these days. It's run it's course.
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#92 edo-tensei
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I can somehow agree, however it's library is just way too similar to the 360 to really consider one or the other superior.

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#93 SW__Troll
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Most diverse library? No....

Highest quality exclusives? Definitely not

There are about 2-3 exclusives on the PS3 I'd label as "high quality", and by that I mean you'd buy them over a multiplat in the same genre.

As far as it goes PS3 exclusives pale in comparison to the top exclusives of other platforms, and also the top multiplats of this generation.

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#94 D4W1L4H
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The most diverse library? Nope, considering the PC has pretty much every genre ever concieved on the PS3.
Anyway, the system with the most diverse library is the DS. Not only did it have a load of already existing genres, it opened the door to new genres, (cooking mama, brain training, Trauma centre, Professor Layton etc.)

As a matter of quality? Well, the PC gets my vote. That is, if you're like me and love RTS & MMO.

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#95 waltefmoney
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:cool: its already been established

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  • Tomb Raider Collection
  • Splinter Cell Collection
  • Prince of Persia Collection
  • God of War Collection
  • Ninja Gaiden Sigma

It only does padding :lol:

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#96 GD1551
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lol already been proven wrong like badly it was shown throughou the high scoring exclusive library there were only like 13-14 genres represented with the 360 having 15-16.

WilliamRLBaker

What are you referring to? I hope it wasn't that thread that was made by that xbox fan with the ridiculous classifications for games.

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#97 GD1551
Member since 2011 • 9645 Posts

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

:cool: its already been established

waltefmoney

  • Tomb Raider Collection
  • Splinter Cell Collection
  • Prince of Persia Collection
  • God of War Collection
  • Ninja Gaiden Sigma

It only does padding :lol:

You mean like xbox fans do with kinect games? lol

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#98 waltefmoney
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And no. PS3 and 360 have the same amount of quality exclusives(29). The Wii beats them both(33) and the PC destroys them(110).

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#99 waltefmoney
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You mean like xbox fans do with kinect games? lol

GD1551

There's a fundamental difference between Kinect games that are actual exclusives and games that are already out being packaged and released as collections. :|

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#100 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

You mean like xbox fans do with kinect games? lol

waltefmoney

There's a fundamental difference between Kinect games that are actual exclusives and games that are already out being packaged and released as collections. :|

I know, the packaged games are good.