PS3 Is the best console ever made

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#152 mojito1988
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Best ever? Ps2 and SNES are a tie. Everything else not even close.

I will say that the DS is the best handheld ever though.

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#153 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]That's like saying you only watch "modern movies" or listen to "modern music." That's a very poor way to look at an art form.AnnoyedDragon

He's a consumer.

We are all consumers; but there are gamers and then there are consumers. Consumers buy into the whole disposable gaming culture, nothing is of long term value. It's just consumed, disposed of; and then they want the next big thing. Retail has built itself around this mentality, hence the encouraging of trading old games in for new.

Personally I keep hold of all my games, but backwards compatibility isn't a problem for me.

Games are an art form, or at least they should be. Same with films, literature, and music. If it's truly great, age shouldn't be a problem.
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#154 grizzlybear1
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No, no its not. Games are different becaus ethey are interactive and when you play the best games old games seem worse. I have no time forold games that are poor by todays standards.

Totally different to films and music....

Lame comparision matey.

PannicAtack

No. An old film might look technically worse than a new film, but that doesn't mean Transformers 2 is better than Rear Window. Great old games still play well today. That's why Starcraft is still on store shelves after ten years. Deus Ex is also an old game, but it's still highly esteemed, and I got it fairly recently, even though it's technically dated.

Thats why PS3 is the best console ever, I dont have time to play old games.

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#156 grizzlybear1
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Ooooh i disagree games arnt art they can have art in them or be artistic but by its nature a game is not art.

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#157 Racer_XLR
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why play old games when thier are so many awesome new games out for PS3.

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People may still enjoy those games as dated as they are.

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#158 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

No, no its not. Games are different becaus ethey are interactive and when you play the best games old games seem worse. I have no time forold games that are poor by todays standards.

Totally different to films and music....

Lame comparision matey.

grizzlybear1

No. An old film might look technically worse than a new film, but that doesn't mean Transformers 2 is better than Rear Window. Great old games still play well today. That's why Starcraft is still on store shelves after ten years. Deus Ex is also an old game, but it's still highly esteemed, and I got it fairly recently, even though it's technically dated.

Thats why PS3 is the best console ever, I dont have time to play old games.

Whatever. I still maintain that Steam has a library that is comparable to, if not better than, that of PSN.
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#159 PannicAtack
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Ooooh i disagree games arnt art they can have art in them or be artistic but by its nature a game is not art.

grizzlybear1
Explain, please?
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#160 AnnoyedDragon
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Not really I just want to play the best games. Dont label me like that.

grizzlybear1

You know what *&^K you C*&^ you dont know me

grizzlybear1

You just defined what differentiates between a good or bad game as being generations.

Yeh i dont care about last gen games anymore. I only play the best modern games.

grizzlybear1

Therefore your definition of what is best is simply what is the most recent, hence why I called you a disposable gamer.

You are only interested in what's new and don't appreciate games outside of their tech.

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#161 grizzlybear1
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Or maybe they are i suppose they are created artisticley.

But still a film doesnt age as badly as games.

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#162 Racer_XLR
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Ooooh i disagree games arnt art they can have art in them or be artistic but by its nature a game is not art.

grizzlybear1

Care to elaborate?

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#163 grizzlybear1
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[QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

[QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

You know what *&^K you C*&^ you dont know me

AnnoyedDragon

You just defined what differentiates between a good or bad game as being generations.

Yeh i dont care about last gen games anymore. I only play the best modern games.

grizzlybear1

Therefore your definition of what is best is simply what is the most recent, hence why I called you a disposable gamer.

You are only interested in what's new and don't appreciate games outside of their tech.

Seriosuley look new games develop new addictive qualities with online gaming the games have massive replay value and are more fun for longer this is becasue they have been better developed over time. Thats why new games have the edge, COMPETETIVE ONLINE MULTIPLAYER . I APPRECIATE GAMEPLAY.

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#164 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

You just defined what differentiates between a good or bad game as being generations.

[QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

Yeh i dont care about last gen games anymore. I only play the best modern games.

grizzlybear1

Therefore your definition of what is best is simply what is the most recent, hence why I called you a disposable gamer.

You are only interested in what's new and don't appreciate games outside of their tech.

Seriosuley look new games develop new addictive qualities with online gaming the games have massive replay value and are more fun for longer this is becasue they have been better developed over time. Thats why new games have the edge, COMPETETIVE ONLINE MULTIPLAYER . I APPRECIATE GAMEPLAY.

Quake 3 has some of the best online multiplayer ever made, even by today's standards. It's over ten years old. New game=/=better game.
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#165 grizzlybear1
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And im less off a consumer than most of you. I dont have MW2 orU2 becasue im wating for price drops.

The games doesnthave to be brandnew just quality. Imcurrently playing Warhawk ('07) Killzone 2 ('09) FIFa 09 ('08 ) Soul Calibur 4 ('08 ) SW Force Unleashed Ultimate Sith Edition ('09) so im not just playing the very latest games. And my games are far from disposable have an incredible colection of PS3 games.

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#166 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Therefore your definition of what is best is simply what is the most recent, hence why I called you a disposable gamer.

You are only interested in what's new and don't appreciate games outside of their tech.

DarkLink77

Seriosuley look new games develop new addictive qualities with online gaming the games have massive replay value and are more fun for longer this is becasue they have been better developed over time. Thats why new games have the edge, COMPETETIVE ONLINE MULTIPLAYER . I APPRECIATE GAMEPLAY.

Quake 3 has some of the best online multiplayer ever made, even by today's standards. It's over ten years old. New game=/=better game.

Indeed. Once I get my computer back up, I'm gonna play some QuakeLive.
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In the old days you at least got a list to compare features, or some link to the technical specifications for the almighty Cell CPU. Now you get this. Boo!!!

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#168 grizzlybear1
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Lol quake try Killzone 2 dudess

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#169 PannicAtack
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Lol quake try Killzone 2 dudess

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No. Quake. There's an entire convention devoted to competitive multiplayer shooters. And it's named after freaking Quake.
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#170 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

Lol quake try Killzone 2 dudess

PannicAtack
No. Quake. There's an entire convention devoted to competitive multiplayer shooters. And it's named after freaking Quake.

This. Seriously, Killzone 2 isn't even worthy to lick the scum off of Quake's boots. Without Quake, competitive shooters as you know it would not exist. BTW, Pannic... what's your ID on Quake Live? If you feel like sharing and putting up with someone who isn't all that great... :P
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#171 AnnoyedDragon
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Seriosuley look new games develop new addictive qualities with online gaming the games have massive replay value and are more fun for longer this is becasue they have been better developed over time. Thats why new games have the edge, COMPETETIVE ONLINE MULTIPLAYER . I APPRECIATE GAMEPLAY.

grizzlybear1

I'm sure you felt exactly the same last generation, but then as time went by they didn't feed your eye candy fix.

I'm sure many of these online concepts are new to you because you are a console gamer, they have been available for a long time elsewhere.

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#172 grizzlybear1
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

Lol quake try Killzone 2 dudess

DarkLink77

No. Quake. There's an entire convention devoted to competitive multiplayer shooters. And it's named after freaking Quake.

This. Seriously, Killzone 2 isn't even worthy to lick the scum off of Quake's boots. Without Quake, competitive shooters as you know it would not exist. BTW, Pannic... what's your ID on Quake Live? If you feel like sharing and putting up with someone who isn't all that great... :P

You must be a Microsoft troll, obviousley dont know about Killzone 2, its a sick game, one of the best shooters ever made.

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#173 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

Lol quake try Killzone 2 dudess

DarkLink77
No. Quake. There's an entire convention devoted to competitive multiplayer shooters. And it's named after freaking Quake.

This. Seriously, Killzone 2 isn't even worthy to lick the scum off of Quake's boots. Without Quake, competitive shooters as you know it would not exist. BTW, Pannic... what's your ID on Quake Live? If you feel like sharing and putting up with someone who isn't all that great... :P

Oh, I'm pretty terrible, myself. PannicAtack
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#174 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]No. Quake. There's an entire convention devoted to competitive multiplayer shooters. And it's named after freaking Quake.grizzlybear1

This. Seriously, Killzone 2 isn't even worthy to lick the scum off of Quake's boots. Without Quake, competitive shooters as you know it would not exist. BTW, Pannic... what's your ID on Quake Live? If you feel like sharing and putting up with someone who isn't all that great... :P

You must be a Microsoft troll, obviousley dont know about Killzone 2, its a sick game, one of the best shooters ever made.

Or I could actually be educated.

Firstly, Quake is a PC series, n00b.

Secondly, the only one trolling here is you.

And thirdly, in the grand scheme of shooters, and before the likes of Quake, Unreal, Counter Strike, etc, Killzone 2 is like the straw man before the hurricane.

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#175 grizzlybear1
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[QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

Seriosuley look new games develop new addictive qualities with online gaming the games have massive replay value and are more fun for longer this is becasue they have been better developed over time. Thats why new games have the edge, COMPETETIVE ONLINE MULTIPLAYER . I APPRECIATE GAMEPLAY.

AnnoyedDragon

I'm sure you felt exactly the same last generation, but then as time went by they didn't feed your eye candy fix.

I'm sure many of these online concepts are new to you because you are a console gamer, they have been available for a long time elsewhere.

Yeh i did i loved BF2 & Counter Strike & Halo 2 & Forza online. Gameplay was awesome but roll with times why miss out on new games and new graphics i dont want to play old games forever. And I do think graphics helpmake games better becasue it makes them more immersive.

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#176 AnnoyedDragon
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Yeh i did i loved BF2 & Counter Strike & Halo 2 & Forza online. Gameplay was awesome but roll with times why miss out on new games and new graphics i dont want to play old games forever. And I do think graphics helpmake games better becasue it makes them more immersive.

grizzlybear1

Never said you should, you are the one who is arguing to restrict the range of games you play.

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#177 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

Yeh i did i loved BF2 & Counter Strike & Halo 2 & Forza online. Gameplay was awesome but roll with times why miss out on new games and new graphics i dont want to play old games forever. And I do think graphics helpmake games better becasue it makes them more immersive.

AnnoyedDragon

Never said you should, you are the one who is arguing to restrict the range of games you play.

I don't even play video games every week and I'm not getting the notion you somehow have to "choose."
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#178 grizzlybear1
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[QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

Yeh i did i loved BF2 & Counter Strike & Halo 2 & Forza online. Gameplay was awesome but roll with times why miss out on new games and new graphics i dont want to play old games forever. And I do think graphics helpmake games better becasue it makes them more immersive.

AnnoyedDragon

Never said you should, you are the one who is arguing to restrict the range of games you play.

Yeh i dont have time to playold games becasue I have a Ps3 and there are loads current gen games. Also i get most my games used for £10-£20 actually i just got Heavenly Sword for £5 lol what a bargin!

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#179 grizzlybear1
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Killzone 2 is better than quake, counter-strike and unreal. Ive played them all.

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#180 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

Yeh i did i loved BF2 & Counter Strike & Halo 2 & Forza online. Gameplay was awesome but roll with times why miss out on new games and new graphics i dont want to play old games forever. And I do think graphics helpmake games better becasue it makes them more immersive.

grizzlybear1

Never said you should, you are the one who is arguing to restrict the range of games you play.

Yeh i dont have time to playold games becasue I have a Ps3 and there are loads current gen games. Also i get most my games used for £10-£20 actually i just got Heavenly Sword for £5 lol what a bargin!

You really are missing out. There's some great games out there that have yet to be equaled, and a lot of them are not on PS3 or from this gen. But, play whatever makes you happy.
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#181 DarkLink77
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Killzone 2 is better than quake, counter-strike and unreal. Ive played them all.

grizzlybear1
No, it's not. No one who has actually played Quake 3, UT 99 or 2004, and Counter Strike would say something like that. You obviously haven't played them. I suppose you'll be telling me that KZ2's story is better than Half-Life's next.
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#182 grizzlybear1
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What makes you think i started this gen? Iowned Gameboy, PS1, N64, PC, PS2 Xbox, now PS3 so I have played the most thebiggest games on each.

Ps3 is my console of choice becasue ti is a lot better than all of those.

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#183 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

Killzone 2 is better than quake, counter-strike and unreal. Ive played them all.

DarkLink77
No, it's not. No one who has actually played Quake 3, UT 99 or 2004, and Counter Strike would say something like that. You obviously haven't played them. I suppose you'll be telling me that KZ2's story is better than Half-Life's next.

To be fair, the original Half-Life's story is really just a higher-class version of Doom's. Half-Life 2, on the other hand...
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#184 grizzlybear1
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[QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

Killzone 2 is better than quake, counter-strike and unreal. Ive played them all.

DarkLink77

No, it's not. No one who has actually played Quake 3, UT 99 or 2004, and Counter Strike would say something like that. You obviously haven't played them. I suppose you'll be telling me that KZ2's story is better than Half-Life's next.

Eh your a Pc neek obviousley so you will never be able too comftabley control Killzone 2 without a lot of adjusting so you dont know how good it is matey.

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#185 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

Killzone 2 is better than quake, counter-strike and unreal. Ive played them all.

grizzlybear1

No, it's not. No one who has actually played Quake 3, UT 99 or 2004, and Counter Strike would say something like that. You obviously haven't played them. I suppose you'll be telling me that KZ2's story is better than Half-Life's next.

Eh your a Pcneek obviousley so you will never be able tocomftabley control Killzone 2 without a lot of adjustingso you dont know how good it is matey.

I own every console from the last 3 gens (this one included) save PS1. I know how to control a console shooter. The fact of the matter is, KZ2 will never be as good as the games I listed, because they had much more impact, took more skill, and generally did more for the industry. @Pannic Well, yes, I meant Half-Life 2. :P My mistake.
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#186 AnnoyedDragon
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Yeh i dont have time to playold games becasue I have a Ps3 and there are loads current gen games. Also i get most my games used for £10-£20 actually i just got Heavenly Sword for £5 lol what a bargin!

grizzlybear1

You didn't say you didn't have time to play older games earlier, you said you didn't care about them. Now at a later point in the conversation you decide to mention you are under time restraints? Sounds like a excuse to me, we can always go back and read what you said earlier.

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#187 RedruM_I
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I mostly agree. After the SNES the PS3 is my favorite console. But I can play SNES games on it using Linux :)
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#188 grizzlybear1
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[QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] No, it's not. No one who has actually played Quake 3, UT 99 or 2004, and Counter Strike would say something like that. You obviously haven't played them. I suppose you'll be telling me that KZ2's story is better than Half-Life's next.DarkLink77

Eh your a Pcneek obviousley so you will never be able tocomftabley control Killzone 2 without a lot of adjustingso you dont know how good it is matey.

I own every console from the last 3 gens (this one included) save PS1. I know how to control a console shooter. The fact of the matter is, KZ2 will never be as good as the games I listed, because they had much more impact, took more skill, and generally did more for the industry. @Pannic Well, yes, I meant Half-Life 2. :P My mistake.

I still think your completely biased and probbley a liar.

Killzone 2 is a sick game. If you released Quake or Unreal now they would get laughed at. Killzone is a killer FPS and better than those games.

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#190 zarshack
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If you are talking hardware wise then yes, otherwise no.

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#191 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

Eh your a Pcneek obviousley so you will never be able tocomftabley control Killzone 2 without a lot of adjustingso you dont know how good it is matey.

grizzlybear1

I own every console from the last 3 gens (this one included) save PS1. I know how to control a console shooter. The fact of the matter is, KZ2 will never be as good as the games I listed, because they had much more impact, took more skill, and generally did more for the industry. @Pannic Well, yes, I meant Half-Life 2. :P My mistake.

I still think your completely biased and probbley a liar.

Killzone 2 is a sick game. If you released Quake or Unreal now they would get laughed at. Killzone is a killer FPS and better than those games.

Well, I don't really care what you think. Fact is, I own 'em. That's funny... they're putting Quake 3 on Xbox Live and people are excited. Not to mention it's free to play online now and it has a lot of players. So no, people wouldn't. And it's not. Killzone 2 will be all but forgotten about next console cycle. People will still be playing Quake 3.
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#192 juanchopepe66
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Why, becouse blu-ray, wifi??? Is a very nice peace of hardware, but as a console for real gamers that play games no brands, I don't think so. the ps2 is a real videogame console and its the best. at least MS had a greatly improved, talking about software, from last generation, ands thats all that matters for real gamers. Xbox 360>Xbox PS3
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#193 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="grizzlybear1"]

Eh your a Pcneek obviousley so you will never be able tocomftabley control Killzone 2 without a lot of adjustingso you dont know how good it is matey.

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I own every console from the last 3 gens (this one included) save PS1. I know how to control a console shooter. The fact of the matter is, KZ2 will never be as good as the games I listed, because they had much more impact, took more skill, and generally did more for the industry. @Pannic Well, yes, I meant Half-Life 2. :P My mistake.

I still think your completely biased and probbley a liar.

Killzone 2 is a sick game. If you released Quake or Unreal now they would get laughed at. Killzone is a killer FPS and better than those games.

Yeah, I don't recall QuakeLive being "laughed at."
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#194 Nerdja
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The PS3 has a crap controller and it's exclusive games are underwhelming
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#195 juanchopepe66
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The PS3 has a crap controller and it's exclusive games are underwhelmingNerdja
the same crap for 16 years, it was cool in 1995, when most of fanboys in SW has like 1 year old.
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#196 anshul89
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The PS3 is coming last in terms of high quality exclusives this gen :|

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#197 klusps
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I certainly don't think so, for me it is the N64. PS3 is still a great system with it's own good library of games.

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#198 ycole11
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I don't think it's the best but I have enjoyed the ps3 more than I expected.:)

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#199 Mario1331
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i like the opinion but i wouldnt put ps3 in the top 3 or top 5 consoles made

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#200 Phazevariance
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I think PS3 is the best console ever made. How could it not be?

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PS3 is the WORST console ever made... and guess what? My opinion is equally as much proof as is yours TC.