PS3 won't stand up against the Wii come this Fall

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#201 mystervj
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]AA hype? Are you retroactively adjusting a hype thread?Stevo_the_gamer
The title I'm speaking of doesn't have a hype thread yet, so...

Hmm... Well it doesn't have any hype then, how can you claim that it is AAA, is not like I can claim any fl0p if it doesn't get AAA.

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#202 BPoole96
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As usual, I have to play the preference card when it comes to my tastes and the games the Wii has. I won't argue that the Wii has a very strong exclusive line up this Fall. but it always misses out on a lot of great multiplats that all the other platforms get. Missing out on games like Fallout New Vegas, Vanquish, Medal of Honor, etc still give the PS3 the edge

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#203 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="XxHoosierdaddy"]

Enjoy your 10 year old technology. Ass graphics and Processing power. Good job. You paid money for a gamecube with a new controller.

I thought the Wii looked bad in 2006, now its just so laughable.

Stevo_the_gamer
Thankfully, there's more to a game than just graphics and powa. :)

Yup. There's a reason Chrono Trigger is my favorite JRPG ever, a reason why Super Mario Bros. 3 still gives an almost unmatched platforming experience (only matched by SMG2 in my opinion), a reason why Pokemon Silver is still better than 99% of handheld games after all these years, and a reason why people still think Final Fantasy VI is still the best Final Fantasy. Great gameplay and design will trump new technology 10 times out of 10. All the games that get praised for graphics this gen, Gears of War 2, Uncharted 2, Crysis, etc. are all also very solid on the gameplay front. The basic gameplay behind them all is very fun, the great graphics only embellish the foundation.
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#204 Zophar87
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Enjoy your 10 year old technology. Ass graphics and Processing power. Good job. You paid money for a gamecube with a new controller.

I thought the Wii looked bad in 2006, now its just so laughable. The 360 and Ps3 take a nice s*** on it.

XxHoosierdaddy

Didn't you already make a thread dedicated to this?

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="mystervj"]AA hype? Are you retroactively adjusting a hype thread?mystervj

The title I'm speaking of doesn't have a hype thread yet, so...

Hmm... Well it doesn't have any hype then, how can you claim that it is AAA, is not like I can claim any fl0p if it doesn't get AAA.

It can very well achieve AAA, it's being made by a very renowned developer of a highly critically acclaimed series.
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#206 Zophar87
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As usual, I have to play the preference card when it comes to my tastes and the games the Wii has. I won't argue that the Wii has a very strong exclusive line up this Fall. but it always misses out on a lot of great multiplats that all the other platforms get. Missing out on games like Fallout New Vegas, Vanquish, Medal of Honor, etc still give the PS3 the edge

BPoole96

Two of which, aren't PS3 exclusive.

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#208 Loco_Live
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Kirby's Epic Yarn

Why would I wan't to play a game that is pretty much exactly just like the previous games in the series. Also, why the sidescrolling levels? What is this, 1995? Why can't it be in a full 3D world. Also, the graphics burn my eyes. to friggin bright.

Donkey Kong Country Returns

Anothers sidescrolling game? Are we still on the SNES? It's 2010 people, keep sidescroling for the handhelds. Also, unless this DKC game is made by Rare I do not care. From what I gather this game is made by the people who did the Metroid trilogy. Which is bad news since the games were terrible. Gameplay seems the same as they did in the first in the series. Graphics look like a PS2 games.

Disney's Epic Mickey

The proof that the Wii is the kiddiest console on the market and a complete joke. People are actually excited for a Disney game? A disney game about Mickey Mouse? The cartoons my father watched as a kid and has now turned into a company releasing nothing related to the character and mediocre CG films and live action television show? People say the developer behind it gives reason for the hype. He is incredibly overrated. The graphics look like something I'd see on the PSP. This game is supposed to cater towards hardcore gamers? wtf are you thinking OP. I'll be surprised if this game sell 100,000 copies.

Conduit 2

Because the first one was so great right? Because FPS work so well with the Wii-mote right? Because the Wii has great online right? Do you sense the sarcasm?

Goldeneye 007 Wii

All I see here is Activision charging you for nostalgia. Graphics look bad, as do the controls. And where is Pierce Brosnan? Nobody is going to by the Daniel Craig version of this. How hard would it to be to make a new and original 007 game? They are j7ust repainting an old and dated car and selling to you new. Rip-Off.

Metroid: Other M

Bad Graphics, check. Bad voice acting, check. Bad controls, check, Team Ninja, of course.

Stevo_the_gamer

▲ There you go OP. My honest thoughts on those games, in the quote. I'm not trolling, but these are the reasons why I will not be playing these games. Yes, I own a Wii. This is what I truly think.

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#209 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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As usual, I have to play the preference card when it comes to my tastes and the games the Wii has. I won't argue that the Wii has a very strong exclusive line up this Fall. but it always misses out on a lot of great multiplats that all the other platforms get. Missing out on games like Fallout New Vegas, Vanquish, Medal of Honor, etc still give the PS3 the edge

BPoole96
That's fair enough. To each his own in the end.
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#210 Gamtrix
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] No. We were discussing bailing on your own thread. I never bailed. You sure loves changing rules don't you, much like you did in the other thread. SaltyMeatballs

Of course. I love it.

Pretty much. Thread backfired and the TC left the building. Gamtrix

You just focused on the bailing part. Which you did by changing your thread, i.e. bailed on the original concept. And posted just because people said you bailed.

No. If anything you have to take it all as a whole, backfire and bailing. And that I did not do. Which is what I said. You said I did, which is a lie. How are you going to spin out of this one?
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#211 mystervj
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]And oh please, how many of those games features extensive 2D platforming? Your gona need some pretty concrete data to convince fans of current gen systems, all I see is nostalgic :?oldkingallant
Two. Epic Mickey doesn't and neither does Metroid: Other M. They both HAVE 2-D platforming for a small portion of the game, but the focus in both is 3-D platforming and action.

I'm sure they will be great games with or without 3D, but claiming that they will beat GT5/LBP2 + a shovel load of Move titles seems rather premature.
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#212 Zophar87
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▲ There you go OP. My honest thoughts on those games, in the quote. I'm not trolling, but these are the reasons why I will not be playing these games. Yes, I own a Wii. This is what I truly think.

Loco_Live

Which would be very logical arguments if people would get over the graphics and realize that good graphics don't make a good game.

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#213 Gamtrix
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Why would a 360 fan make a thread about the Wii beating the PS3(Which it doesn't) when that means the Wii obliterates the 360? Are you trying to get Wii fans angry at PS fans? Shouldn't you represent the 360 and not the PS3 or Wii?

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#214 Zophar87
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Why would a 360 fan make a thread about the Wii beating the PS3(Which it doesn't) when that means the Wii obliterates the 360? Are you trying to get Wii fans angry at PS fans? Shouldn't you represent the 360 and not the PS3 or Wii?

Gamtrix

I was wondering the exact same thing.

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Why would a 360 fan make a thread about the Wii beating the PS3(Which it doesn't) when that means the Wii obliterates the 360? Are you trying to get Wii fans angry at PS fans? Shouldn't you represent the 360 and not the PS3 or Wii?

Gamtrix
The Wii wipes the floor with the PS3 in regards to exclusives, it buries the HD twins in regards to high quality exclusives. Not as huge of a margin as the PC though, but the Xbox 360's library exclusive library is pitiful for this year, and even more pitiful for the Fall (Again, Reach can't hold up the system by itself). Why would I make a thread when there's no way I (or anyone) could argue that the Xbox 360 stands a chance?
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#216 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]Kirby's Epic Yarn Why would I wan't to play a game that is pretty much exactly just like the previous games in the series

:question: Epic Yarn's gameplay seems different from previous Kirby's.
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#217 mystervj
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]The title I'm speaking of doesn't have a hype thread yet, so...Stevo_the_gamer

Hmm... Well it doesn't have any hype then, how can you claim that it is AAA, is not like I can claim any fl0p if it doesn't get AAA.

It can very well achieve AAA, it's being made by a very renowned developer of a highly critically acclaimed series.

Sure whatever, I honesty think it looks like a PSN title. Anyways I still can't claim uber pwnage if it flops, so it's unfair for you to count that as AAA right now. :(
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#218 Loco_Live
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ There you go OP. My honest thoughts on those games, in the quote. I'm not trolling, but these are the reasons why I will not be playing these games. Yes, I own a Wii. This is what I truly think.

Zophar87

Which would be very logical arguments if people would get over the graphics and realize that good graphics don't make a good game.

▲ Lets talk about pro reviews for a second....when factoring in a score, do they not also factor in the quality of the graphics? Does that not effect the final judgment of the game? ▲

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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]Should i, or should i not? um, ...

We all know you agree. :P
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#220 drufeous
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Are you sure you didn't mean to say "PSP won't stand up against the Wii this Fall"? Because by saying PS3, you are being silly. Yes Wii has a great lineup but I will def get 1 game in Metroid and maybe 2 others. (Mickey and Goldeneye).

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#221 Loco_Live
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]Kirby's Epic Yarn Why would I wan't to play a game that is pretty much exactly just like the previous games in the series IronBass
:question: Epic Yarn's gameplay seems different from previous Kirby's.

▲ looks like to me he's still taking abilities from other things, making them his own, transforming and beating bad guys up. ▲

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Because by saying PS3, you are being silly. drufeous
How so?
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#223 mystervj
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

Why would a 360 fan make a thread about the Wii beating the PS3(Which it doesn't) when that means the Wii obliterates the 360? Are you trying to get Wii fans angry at PS fans? Shouldn't you represent the 360 and not the PS3 or Wii?

Stevo_the_gamer
The Wii wipes the floor with the PS3 in regards to exclusives, it buries the HD twins in regards to high quality exclusives. Not as huge of a margin as the PC though, but the Xbox 360's library exclusive library is pitiful for this year, and even more pitiful for the Fall (Again, Reach can't hold up the system by itself). Why would I make a thread when there's no way I (or anyone) could argue that the Xbox 360 stands a chance?

Where did "wipe the floor" come from? You have yet to justify any of this as there's either AE hype on the title listed or there's no hype thread present?
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Sure whatever, I honesty think it looks like a PSN title. Anyways I still can't claim uber pwnage if it flops, so it's unfair for you to count that as AAA right now. :(mystervj
It has the possibility, but even then, you shouldn't limit yourself to arbitrary scores. In the end, to each his own.
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#225 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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▲ Lets talk about pro reviews for a second....when factoring in a score, do they not also factor in the quality of the graphics? Does that not effect the final judgment of the game? ▲Loco_Live
He said that good graphics don't make a good game, what reviewers do or stop doing does not change that. Especially since good-looking games have also got bad scores.
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#226 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

Stevo's love affair with the Wii continues!

I want DK, Metroid and SMG 2. Kirby too but it's delayed. I have my eye on Epic Mickey, Conduit 2....probably sewage but I'm not following it. Amazing year for the Wii all round.

Vs PS3....nothing I want except the Sly Collection. The worst of the three for 2010 imo.

oldkingallant

Love affair? Last time I checked Stevo is mainly a Hermit :?.

Lol twas light humour. besides we all know Stevo is a hardcore Lemming fanboy anyway :P

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▲ Lets talk about pro reviews for a second....when factoring in a score, do they not also factor in the quality of the graphics? Does that not effect the final judgment of the game? ▲

Loco_Live

Pro reviews are a gimmick.. A good example is GameInformer's review of Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete. Graphics wont make or break a game and it certainly doesn't make or break a review.

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Where did "wipe the floor" come from? You have yet to justify any of this as there's either AE hype on the title listed or there's no hype thread present?mystervj
In the overall context I was speaking, the overall number of high quality exclusives is much higher than the PS3 and Xbox 360.
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#229 3rdbass
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[QUOTE="3rdbass"]

Guys right now they are all equal as I plan to get LBP2 and GT5 for the PS3, Halo Reach and Fable 3 for the 360 and Metroid other m and DKCR for the Wii. 2=2=2. So they are tied. LOL. Honestly all the systems have good games coming out for them this fall/winter.

oldkingallant

Tied to you buy you're getting all the major exclusives for PS3 and 360 while the Wii has two more big ones, probably the two best ones, you aren't getting :P.

Why what would those two bigger Wii exclusives be? Kirby's EpicYarn? no interest as it looks like a wiiware game and I prefer Donkey Kongs character for a 2d sidescroller, Goldeneye I rather play FPS shooters with better graphics on a PS3 or 360.

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#230 Gamtrix
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

Why would a 360 fan make a thread about the Wii beating the PS3(Which it doesn't) when that means the Wii obliterates the 360? Are you trying to get Wii fans angry at PS fans? Shouldn't you represent the 360 and not the PS3 or Wii?

Zophar87

I was wondering the exact same thing.

So are half the the people in this thread :P
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Loco_Live"]Kirby's Epic Yarn Why would I wan't to play a game that is pretty much exactly just like the previous games in the series Loco_Live

:question: Epic Yarn's gameplay seems different from previous Kirby's.

looks like to me he's still taking abilities from other things, making them his own, transforming and beating bad guys up.

Gameplay trailer.

Much of what's there have never been done in a Kirby game.

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Lol twas light humour. besides we all know Stevo is a hardcore Lemming fanboy anyway :P

ActicEdge

I know right? I hear it enough, it's starting to make me think my PC gaming is all a lie. lol

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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]Kirby's Epic Yarn Why would I wan't to play a game that is pretty much exactly just like the previous games in the series IronBass
:question: Epic Yarn's gameplay seems different from previous Kirby's.

It is a lot different. Past Kirby games had the suck and blow mechanic. This game appears to lack the sucking and the blowing

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#234 mitu123
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Um, TC is more of a hermit...

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#235 Loco_Live
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ Lets talk about pro reviews for a second....when factoring in a score, do they not also factor in the quality of the graphics? Does that not effect the final judgment of the game? ▲

Zophar87

Pro reviews are a gimmick.. A good example is GameInformer's review of Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete. Graphics wont make or break a game and it certainly doesn't make or break a review.

▲ Then I'll just say this...a great game has good everything. A good game has good some things. And in my OP i was not only hating the the games' graphics. Nothing about the gameplay in any of the games looks interesting. ▲

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#236 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Um, TC is more of a hermit...

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#237 mystervj
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]Sure whatever, I honesty think it looks like a PSN title. Anyways I still can't claim uber pwnage if it flops, so it's unfair for you to count that as AAA right now. :(Stevo_the_gamer
It has the possibility, but even then, you shouldn't limit yourself to arbitrary scores. In the end, to each his own.

Arbitrary scores is the foundation of SW! Possibility or not you need hype threads first, your just making claims based on your own opinion at this point. I can make my own claims too, like how 4 of those titles would only pass for PSN releases in my book.
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#238 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Lol twas light humour. besides we all know Stevo is a hardcore Lemming fanboy anyway :P

Stevo_the_gamer

I know right? I hear it enough, it's starting to make me think my PC gaming is all a lie. lol

Haha, its your love of halo that gets you the lemming tag. Forget about that trash :P (I kid I kid . .. aabout halo being trash that is)

Also, you just mixed up letters. PC gaming isn't a "lie" its about to "die" :P

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#239 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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GT5 is a monster, and LBP2 is jam-packed with win. So yeah I'm going with "no".

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GT5 is a sleeping-aid, and LBP2 ... okay, I got nothing for that but GT5 will put you to sleep, stay away Teuf! Driving games (not named DiRT 2)are bad. lulz :P
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#240 Loco_Live
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] :question: Epic Yarn's gameplay seems different from previous Kirby's.IronBass

looks like to me he's still taking abilities from other things, making them his own, transforming and beating bad guys up.

Gameplay trailer.

Much of what's there have never been done in a Kirby game.

▲ He's still transforming, but dang that games looks much better than I rememberd it looking. I doubt it will sell a mil in the states though. ▲

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#241 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="mystervj"]Sure whatever, I honesty think it looks like a PSN title. Anyways I still can't claim uber pwnage if it flops, so it's unfair for you to count that as AAA right now. :(mystervj
It has the possibility, but even then, you shouldn't limit yourself to arbitrary scores. In the end, to each his own.

Arbitrary scores is the foundation of SW! Possibility or not you need hype threads first, your just making claims based on your own opinion at this point. I can make my own claims too, like how 4 of those titles would only pass for PSN releases in my book.

Well what exclusives does the PS3 have? Also, PSN games aren't all that great. They are solid downloadable titles but nothing in the scope of those games.

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[QUOTE="mystervj"]Where did "wipe the floor" come from? You have yet to justify any of this as there's either AE hype on the title listed or there's no hype thread present?Stevo_the_gamer
In the overall context I was speaking, the overall number of high quality exclusives is much higher than the PS3 and Xbox 360.

That's because of all the casual stuff on the Wii, it's also losing quite some # of those titles to PS3, in fact it already lost NMH, why is it still there?
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#243 Gamtrix
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Um, TC is more of a hermit...

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I heard differently, unless that's a more recent change, posters were saying he's one of the older "lemmings" on this board.
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#244 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Arbitrary scores is the foundation of SW! Possibility or not you need hype threads first, your just making claims based on your own opinion at this point. I can make my own claims too, like how 4 of those titles would only pass for PSN releases in my book.mystervj
Yeah, they might be able too! And boy would they be epic PSN games, even the Playstation Mooooove would work with them, that'd be cool. But, to enjoy these games, you got'sta own a Wii. :)
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▲ Then I'll just say this...a great game has good everything. A good game has good some things. And in my OP i was not only hating the the games' graphics. Nothing about the gameplay in any of the games looks interesting. ▲

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Apparently you missed what I said about Lunar 2, but that's completely besides the point... You mentioned something about the graphics in each of the those titles, you even went into detail at times. As far as the gameplay goes, you mentioned maybe a sentence worth of information.

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#247 mystervj
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[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]It has the possibility, but even then, you shouldn't limit yourself to arbitrary scores. In the end, to each his own.ActicEdge

Arbitrary scores is the foundation of SW! Possibility or not you need hype threads first, your just making claims based on your own opinion at this point. I can make my own claims too, like how 4 of those titles would only pass for PSN releases in my book.

Well what exclusives does the PS3 have? Also, PSN games aren't all that great. They are solid downloadable titles but nothing in the scope of those games.

GT5 have AAA hype thread, LBP2 have LBP1's AAA to back it up.
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He's still transforming, but dang that games looks much better than I rememberd it looking. I doubt it will sell a mil in the states though. ▲Loco_Live
Yes, he's still transforming, that does not change that much of what's there is new. And I'm not particularly interested in how much it's gonna sell in the states.
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GT5 have AAA hype thread, LBP2 have LBP1's AAA to back it up.mystervj
Hype threads are hardly a back up.
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#250 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Haha, its your love of halo that gets you the lemming tag. Forget about that trash :P (I kid I kid . .. aabout halo being trash that is)

Also, you just mixed up letters. PC gaming isn't a "lie" its about to "die" :P

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I reckon' that has to be it. I mean, since 2008... I've bought 1 Xbox 360 game: ODST, and my next game is Halo Reach. Man, that's some hardcore lemming I am that I bought a whopping two Xbox 360 games in 2 years! (Though I did receive MW2 as a gift) So, THREE games! WOW! :P I got more Wii games in that time... does that mean I am a sheep?