PS3 won't stand up against the Wii come this Fall

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="mystervj"] Are you bragging about DKC's gfx? Joe Danger also scored pretty well. Bit trip runner is just an opinion, Braid clearly outscores that 1 :roll:oldkingallant

I never mentioned graphics once. Braid outscored it which is why I mentioned it though Braid is more of a puzzler than a platformer though it could be classified as a platformer. As for every other PSN platformergame Bit Trip Runner outscored them here.

It's much more then jsut graphics. THe amount of high scoring shooters on the PS3 is WAY higher, each one pushed the standards up. Denying this is lol worthy really. It's graphics, sounds, game mechanics, online, etc.. It's not just graphics. Not to mention this generation, sooo many shooters, the standards have never been so high, that's not the case with the Wii. Gamtrix

[QUOTE="oldkingallant"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

No PSN platformers have scored very well (I suspose you could use braid though and to a far lesser extent Trine),it looks far better than anything on PSN. Hell as far as platforming is concerned, nothing on PSN is better than bit trip Runner. Try again.

ActicEdge

which is funny because the PS3 and 360 have terrible platformers and nothing on PSN or XBLA matches any of the top Wii platformers for the most part. The exceptions are braid and Limbo and they are puzzle platformers and incredibly short.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="mystervj"] Are you bragging about DKC's gfx? Joe Danger also scored pretty well. Bit trip runner is just an opinion, Braid clearly outscores that 1 :roll:mystervj

I never mentioned graphics once. Braid outscored it which is why I mentioned it though Braid is more of a puzzler than a platformer though it could be classified as a platformer. As for every other PSN platformergame Bit Trip Runner outscored them here.

Btw, is the TC claiming Wii standards are equal to PS3 standards? Like these Wii Shooters are on equal standards as PS3 shooters? If so, I think people around here need to learn a thing or 2 about how reviews and standards.

Gamtrix

Pretty much. Sales, games, and score wise.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Um, TC is more of a hermit...

Gamtrix

You're new.:P This guy is a hardcore hermit!

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

Btw, is the TC claiming Wii standards are equal to PS3 standards? Like these Wii Shooters are on equal standards as PS3 shooters? If so, I think people around here need to learn a thing or 2 about how reviews and standards.

mystervj

There are aspects of reviews that scale and some that are constant. Wii shooters aren't hyped up like other system shooters because the aspects that scale make a big difference a lot of the time. But on the merits of the shooters that did score well on the wii, its probably suggests that they were still great games and had positive aspects going for them. I also laugh at this standards crap, there are no platformers on the PS3 or 360 they come anywhere near the platforming genius of the SMG series, there aren't even any platformers on those systems that are better than Bit Trip Runner yet somehow LBP is a 9? Really?

Its been my position (and this will never change) that LBP is not a 9 and its also a terrible platformer. (but I said I would not beat a dead horse by constantly bringing it up so this is the last time I talk about it) BTR is a far better more masterful platformer than anything on the PS3. This is from my own personal experience.

as for scores. Braid and LBP are the only PS3 platformers to score better than BTR and the general concensus is that in terms of actual platforming, they don't compare.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] lol Are you trying to imply that the highlighted text nulifies the beginning of the paragraf? Thank you for backing up my point. The PS3 platform has MUCH higher standards for the shooting genre. It's NOWHERE near close. So while a AAAE shooter on the Wii is a great shooter, it's not up to the standards of a AAAE shooter on the PS3. Deny?IronBass

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="oldkingallant"] The Wii's platformers are on a whole other level this gen, platformers on the PS3 and 360 can't compare. Same goes for shooters on the PS3 and 360 being better than the Wii, but every time a platformer comes out Cows and Lemmings talk about how it's cheap and could be on PSN or XBLA.mystervj

which is funny because the PS3 and 360 have terrible platformers and nothing on PSN or XBLA matches any of the top Wii platformers for the most part. The exceptions are braid and Limbo and they are puzzle platformers and incredibly short.

[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

There are aspects of reviews that scale and some that are constant. Wii shooters aren't hyped up like other system shooters because the aspects that scale make a big difference a lot of the time. But on the merits of the shooters that did score well on the wii, its probably suggests that they were still great games and had positive aspects going for them. I also laugh at this standards crap, there are no platformers on the PS3 or 360 they come anywhere near the platforming genius of the SMG series, there aren't even any platformers on those systems that are better than Bit Trip Runner yet somehow LBP is a 9? Really?

ActicEdge

Its been my position (and this will never change) that LBP is not a 9 and its also a terrible platformer. (but I said I would not beat a dead horse by constantly bringing it up so this is the last time I talk about it) BTR is a far better more masterful platformer than anything on the PS3. This is from my own personal experience.

as for scores. Braid and LBP are the only PS3 platformers to score better than BTR and the general concensus is that in terms of actual platforming, they don't compare.

So jealous of those games, oh wait, I'm 20.

My eyes burn from all of the low res pictures!

So jealous of those games, oh wait, I'm 20.

Grawse

Never thought I would see you so pro-Wii. Anyway, I thought you were going to mention that Nintendo just needs a price cut and a new bundle and they win this holiday again.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="oldkingallant"] The Wii's platformers are on a whole other level this gen, platformers on the PS3 and 360 can't compare. Same goes for shooters on the PS3 and 360 being better than the Wii, but every time a platformer comes out Cows and Lemmings talk about how it's cheap and could be on PSN or XBLA.mystervj

which is funny because the PS3 and 360 have terrible platformers and nothing on PSN or XBLA matches any of the top Wii platformers for the most part. The exceptions are braid and Limbo and they are puzzle platformers and incredibly short.

That's just your opinion ;) Don't fight opinion with opinion (even though my opinion is pretty damn hard to argue otherwise).

I brought this up to make a point by the way, I don't care for silly genre wars.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] It's much more then jsut graphics. THe amount of high scoring shooters on the PS3 is WAY higher, each one pushed the standards up. Denying this is lol worthy really. It's graphics, sounds, game mechanics, online, etc.. It's not just graphics. Not to mention this generation, sooo many shooters, the standards have never been so high, that's not the case with the Wii. IronBass

[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

There are aspects of reviews that scale and some that are constant. Wii shooters aren't hyped up like other system shooters because the aspects that scale make a big difference a lot of the time. But on the merits of the shooters that did score well on the wii, its probably suggests that they were still great games and had positive aspects going for them. I also laugh at this standards crap, there are no platformers on the PS3 or 360 they come anywhere near the platforming genius of the SMG series, there aren't even any platformers on those systems that are better than Bit Trip Runner yet somehow LBP is a 9? Really?

ActicEdge

Its been my position (and this will never change) that LBP is not a 9 and its also a terrible platformer. (but I said I would not beat a dead horse by constantly bringing it up so this is the last time I talk about it) BTR is a far better more masterful platformer than anything on the PS3. This is from my own personal experience.

as for scores. Braid and LBP are the only PS3 platformers to score better than BTR and the general concensus is that in terms of actual platforming, they don't compare.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"] lol Are you trying to imply that the highlighted text nulifies the beginning of the paragraf? Thank you for backing up my point. The PS3 platform has MUCH higher standards for the shooting genre. It's NOWHERE near close. So while a AAAE shooter on the Wii is a great shooter, it's not up to the standards of a AAAE shooter on the PS3. Deny?Javy03

Not sure what you mean by control, the general opinion is that Wii controls in FPS games are sharp :?

So jealous of those games, oh wait, I'm 20.

Grawse

We've been over this why are you doing this again. THat's nitpicking a fraction of what it all says. It also says they take into account the platform and the platforms standards. So that proves the PS3 has way higher shooter standards. WAY higher. Not only because of more powerfull hardware but because of WAAAAY more quality shooters on the system pushing those standards up. Gamtrix

I'm not nitpicking, I'm using the part guidelines that specifically talks about our topic here.

We are talking about high-scoring games (AAA), the guidelines (very cleary) say that when talking about high-scoring games general standards apply.

[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="IronBass"] In terms of graphics, yes, the PS3 has higher standards. But, (as it clearly says in the highlighted part), when talking about high scores (like AAA games), general standards are applied.ActicEdge

Not sure what you mean by control, the general opinion is that Wii controls in FPS games are sharp :?

[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

which is funny because the PS3 and 360 have terrible platformers and nothing on PSN or XBLA matches any of the top Wii platformers for the most part. The exceptions are braid and Limbo and they are puzzle platformers and incredibly short.

oldkingallant

As for shooters, CoD World at War scored the same across all 4 systems. Surely the Wii version doesn't offer the same experience as PS3/360. And surely they don't off the same experience as the PC.SilverChimera

I very clearly acknowledge that the scalable aspects of reviews hurt the Wii in that genre because those aspects are important to shooter. WAW shouldn't have got an 8.5 on the Wii. If you look a MW on the Wii it got an 8.5 which I feel is probably more appropriate (well an 8 would be better actually) compared to the game on the PS3/360/PC.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]We've been over this why are you doing this again. THat's nitpicking a fraction of what it all says. It also says they take into account the platform and the platforms standards. So that proves the PS3 has way higher shooter standards. WAY higher. Not only because of more powerfull hardware but because of WAAAAY more quality shooters on the system pushing those standards up. IronBass

i searched this thread for the biggest fail post. And this would be it.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Kirby's Epic Yarn

Why would I wan't to play a game that is pretty much exactly just like the previous games in the series.Also, why the sidescrolling levels? What is this, 1995? Why can't it be in a full 3D world. Also, the graphics burn my eyes. to friggin bright.

Donkey Kong Country Returns

Anothers sidescrolling game? Are we still on the SNES? It's 2010 people, keep sidescroling for the handhelds. Also, unless this DKC game is made by Rare I do not care. From what I gather this game is made by the people who did the Metroid trilogy. Which is bad news since the games were terrible. Gameplay seems the same as they did in the first in the series. Graphics look like a PS2 games.

Disney's Epic Mickey

The proof that the Wii is the kiddiest console on the market and a complete joke. People are actually excited for a Disney game? A disney game about Mickey Mouse? The cartoons my father watched as a kid and has now turned into a company releasing nothing related to the character and mediocre CG films and live action television show? People say the developer behind it gives reason for the hype. He is incredibly overrated. The graphics look like something I'd see on the PSP. This game is supposed to cater towards hardcore gamers? wtf are you thinking OP. I'll be surprised if this game sell 100,000 copies.

Conduit 2

Because the first one was so great right? Because FPS work so well with the Wii-mote right? Because the Wii has great online right? Do you sense the sarcasm?

Goldeneye 007 Wii

All I see here is Activision charging you for nostalgia. Graphics look bad, as do the controls. And where is Pierce Brosnan? Nobody is going to by the Daniel Craig version of this. How hard would it to be to make a new and original 007 game? They are j7ust repainting an old and dated car and selling to you new. Rip-Off.

Metroid: Other M

Bad Graphics, check. Bad voice acting, check. Bad controls, check, Team Ninja, of course.

Loco_Live

▲ There you go OP. My honest thoughts on those games, in the quote. I'm not trolling, but these are the reasons why I will not be playing these games. Yes, I own a Wii. This is what I truly think.

the colored sentences are the biggest fails iw seen in this thread. enjoy

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"] lol Are you trying to imply that the highlighted text nulifies the beginning of the paragraf? Thank you for backing up my point. The PS3 platform has MUCH higher standards for the shooting genre. It's NOWHERE near close. So while a AAAE shooter on the Wii is a great shooter, it's not up to the standards of a AAAE shooter on the PS3. Deny?Javy03

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its been my position (and this will never change) that LBP is not a 9 and its also a terrible platformer. (but I said I would not beat a dead horse by constantly bringing it up so this is the last time I talk about it) BTR is a far better more masterful platformer than anything on the PS3. This is from my own personal experience.

as for scores. Braid and LBP are the only PS3 platformers to score better than BTR and the general concensus is that in terms of actual platforming, they don't compare.

ActicEdge

If you read the bolded I very clearly acknowledge that the scalable aspects of reviews hurt the Wii in that genre because those aspects are important to shooter. WAW shouldn't have got an 8.5 on the Wii. If you look a MW on the Wii it got an 8.5 which I feel is probably more appropriate (well an 8 would be better actually) compared to the game on the PS3/360/PC.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"]We've been over this why are you doing this again. THat's nitpicking a fraction of what it all says. It also says they take into account the platform and the platforms standards. So that proves the PS3 has way higher shooter standards. WAY higher. Not only because of more powerfull hardware but because of WAAAAY more quality shooters on the system pushing those standards up. Gamtrix

it also says they take into account other games in the genre which would allude to the fact that the games are compared to other siilar games on other platforms.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

The PS3 has some big multiplats coming that the Wii wont be getting, so it's not really gonna be the domination that you think.

farnham

I dont' think Other M and Kirby will have "huge" sales. Actually it's quite possible they won't even be top 10 in the US beyond their first week on the shelves. Didn't Prime 3 completely bomb in terms of sales?

Donkey Kong could easily be the #1 selling game this holiday season and probably have HUGE sales. Yes, ahead of Reach and Black Ops (although I have a feeling Black Ops probably gets #1 because of being on all consoles).

Other than Doinkey Kong which WILL dominate, I don't think Wii is going to dominate anything with GT5, Reach. Black Ops (all platforms), Medal of Honor (all platforms), LBP2, etc.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"] As for shooters, CoD World at War scored the same across all 4 systems. Surely the Wii version doesn't offer the same experience as PS3/360. And surely they don't off the same experience as the PC.SilverChimera

If you read the bolded I very clearly acknowledge that the scalable aspects of reviews hurt the Wii in that genre because those aspects are important to shooter. WAW shouldn't have got an 8.5 on the Wii. If you look a MW on the Wii it got an 8.5 which I feel is probably more appropriate (well an 8 would be better actually) compared to the game on the PS3/360/PC.

Sure that's true (well not crap but I don't really like it).

Just letting it be known I'm not a man child. There are people who act their age outside of this forum.

Grawse

so by that logic, you think SMG2 is only an enjoyable game if you're a "manchild?" despite many adult reviewers have given the game tremendous praise. i do have to ask, what constitutes an adult game for you?

No. What it says is, a AAA gam eis a quality game no matter what. It ALSO says the standards of the specific platform are taken into account. Period. That's for Clone too. Gamtrix

This is exactly what it says:

a game that scores extremely high is an outstanding game by any standards.

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

If you read the bolded I very clearly acknowledge that the scalable aspects of reviews hurt the Wii in that genre because those aspects are important to shooter. WAW shouldn't have got an 8.5 on the Wii. If you look a MW on the Wii it got an 8.5 which I feel is probably more appropriate (well an 8 would be better actually) compared to the game on the PS3/360/PC.

ActicEdge

Sure that's true (well not crap but I don't really like it).

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="IronBass"] I'm not nitpicking, I'm using the part guidelines that especifically talk about our topic here. We are talking about high-scoring games (AAA), the guidelines (very cleary) say that when talking about high-scoring games general standards apply.ActicEdge

it also says they take into account other games in the genre which would allude to the fact that the games are compared to other siilar games on other platforms.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]No. What it says is, a AAA gam eis a quality game no matter what. It ALSO says the standards of the specific platform are taken into account. Period. That's for Clone too. IronBass

This is exactly what it says:

a game that scores extremely high is an outstanding game by any standards.

i do have to ask, what constitutes an adult game for you?

clone01

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"]We've been over this why are you doing this again. THat's nitpicking a fraction of what it all says. It also says they take into account the platform and the platforms standards. So that proves the PS3 has way higher shooter standards. WAY higher. Not only because of more powerfull hardware but because of WAAAAY more quality shooters on the system pushing those standards up. Gamtrix

Metroid Other M isn't a fall release. Fall doesn't start towards the end of September. And The Conduit 2 looks about as good and interesting as Time Crisis (lol). The PS3 also is getting a remake in Sly , but yawn overall to both.

• Kirby
• Mickey
• Donkey Kong

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• Gran Turismo
• LittleBigPlanet

The difference is a 3rd party game. (but one that may come to the PS3 and it's innovate Move controller , high definition graphics to bringthe game to life, and a brilliant trophy system as the cherry on top - probably some Home rewards as well). We'll all probably look back and see LBP2 and GT5 both 90+ Metacritic , and Donkey Kong 80 range somewhere. Hard to tell with Kirby , but it looks like it will do just fine. And Epic Mickey on an Epic console for a change like Mass Effect 2.

We can still come out on TOP!

[spoiler] BOOM [/spoiler]

i searched this thread for the biggest fail post. And this would be it.

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Kirby's Epic Yarn

Why would I wan't to play a game that is pretty much exactly just like the previous games in the series.Also, why the sidescrolling levels? What is this, 1995? Why can't it be in a full 3D world. Also, the graphics burn my eyes. to friggin bright.

Donkey Kong Country Returns

Anothers sidescrolling game? Are we still on the SNES? It's 2010 people, keep sidescroling for the handhelds. Also, unless this DKC game is made by Rare I do not care. From what I gather this game is made by the people who did the Metroid trilogy. Which is bad news since the games were terrible. Gameplay seems the same as they did in the first in the series. Graphics look like a PS2 games.

Disney's Epic Mickey

The proof that the Wii is the kiddiest console on the market and a complete joke. People are actually excited for a Disney game? A disney game about Mickey Mouse? The cartoons my father watched as a kid and has now turned into a company releasing nothing related to the character and mediocre CG films and live action television show? People say the developer behind it gives reason for the hype. He is incredibly overrated. The graphics look like something I'd see on the PSP. This game is supposed to cater towards hardcore gamers? wtf are you thinking OP. I'll be surprised if this game sell 100,000 copies.

Conduit 2

Because the first one was so great right? Because FPS work so well with the Wii-mote right? Because the Wii has great online right? Do you sense the sarcasm?

Goldeneye 007 Wii

All I see here is Activision charging you for nostalgia. Graphics look bad, as do the controls. And where is Pierce Brosnan? Nobody is going to by the Daniel Craig version of this. How hard would it to be to make a new and original 007 game? They are j7ust repainting an old and dated car and selling to you new. Rip-Off.

Metroid: Other M

Bad Graphics, check. Bad voice acting, check. Bad controls, check, Team Ninja, of course.

Half-Way

▲ There you go OP. My honest thoughts on those games, in the quote. I'm not trolling, but these are the reasons why I will not be playing these games. Yes, I own a Wii. This is what I truly think.

the colored sentences are the biggest fails iw seen in this thread. enjoy

Thw Wii this year has had a great year. I still need to get some games that were released this year for the Wii.

As for the PS3 well GT5 will be great but I'm not a fan of sim racers and I don't care much for the Forza vs GT arguments over the past 6 years. LBP2 will be great but I rather play Donkey Kong Country Returns and Kirby's Epic Yarn. I'm not a big fan of Kirby but this game has me interested and it might make me a fan of the series.

I don't care much for the Conduit 2. As for the new Goldeneye, I'll wait and see how that agme ends up but so far I'm not that optimistic. As for the rest of the lineup Other M is looking great as more and more info has been released. Epic Mickey is interesting but I heard the camara has issues. Otherwise it's looking good so far.

As for PS3 multiplats, Vanquish is about he only one I'm interested that's not released. A lot of games have been delayed till next year.

No. What it says is, a AAA gam eis a quality game no matter what. It ALSO says the standards of the specific platform are taken into account. Period. That's for Clone too. Gamtrix