PS3 won't stand up against the Wii come this Fall

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]No. What it says is, a AAA gam eis a quality game no matter what. It ALSO says the standards of the specific platform are taken into account. Period. That's for Clone too. Gamtrix

This is exactly what it says:

a game that scores extremely high is an outstanding game by any standards.

Yep nice exclusives for sure. However, I honestly don't know where many of these games will fall in quality/review department, not to mention, personal preference will play a big role into the enjoyment of each of these games. The Conduit 2 and Goldeneye sorry, but I care nothing for them...Conduit you can get a much superior shooting experience on either of the HD consoles and Goldeneye just is looking well bad.

Metroid...well Metroid will be good that's almost a lock as for the remaining 3...Donkey Kong and Kirby are gambles I don't see Donkey Kong: Country Returns being that great of a game (I could be wrong but I'm not feeling it) and as for Kirby, I have personally never liked the Kirby games. That leaves Epic Mickey which like Metroid should be a sure fire quality title that I could see my self enjoying.

So out of the games you just listed I am interested in 2/6 (neither of which are must buys, but each one I would definitely enjoy)...like I said originally a lot of it comes down to personal preference and I suppose I am just not the main audience for these games, not to say things aren't looking good for the Wii, but if SMG2 didn't persuade me to re-buy a Wii none of these will either.

Anyway enough downing the Wii...might as well be happy for Wii owners! Great games (well most are) like I said just not my style I'm looking forward to Halo:Reach, Fallout: New Vegas, Fable III, LBP2, LA Noire, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, and possibly Medal of Honor and Vanquish. None of which are available on the Wii (to my knowledge) and none of which you might be interested in soo its fine enjoy your games I'll enjoy mine no hard feelings!:) (Unfortunately I know I won't be able to buy all the games on my list:( I'll be lucky to get 4 this year).

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]No. What it says is, a AAA gam eis a quality game no matter what. It ALSO says the standards of the specific platform are taken into account. Period. That's for Clone too. Gamtrix

it also says they take into account other games in the genre which would allude to the fact that the games are compared to other siilar games on other platforms.

Well duh, certain aspects scale like I said. the conduit would be better technically on the PS3 (though it'd still look like crap compared to the PS3/360 standard like it does on the Wii) and the online would be better obviously if it was on those systems. It would score worse due to techinical reasons like any game that is released with no changes on a significantly more advanced system. It says nothing about the games quality as an individual.

And the conduit got a 6 on the Wii so its not like its the systems premier shooter.

Can we stick to the topic and stop discussing standards? :PStevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"]No. What it says is, a AAA gam eis a quality game no matter what. It ALSO says the standards of the specific platform are taken into account. Period. That's for Clone too. Gamtrix

Metroid Other M isn't a fall release. Fall doesn't start towards the end of September.Nike_Air

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Metroid Other M isn't a fall release. Fall doesn't start towards the end of September.Stevo_the_gamer

Quality > quantity.

Don't forget the "HD Exclusives" the PS3 will get like Black Ops.

[spoiler] mods the HD exclusive is sarcasm...a joke and doesn't mean I believe in such stupid terms [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"] Oh I didn't see the bolded part :x . And MW is crap anyway :)SilverChimera

Sure that's true (well not crap but I don't really like it).

I won't!!11!! Don't force my hand . . . :P

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

it also says they take into account other games in the genre which would allude to the fact that the games are compared to other siilar games on other platforms.

ActicEdge

Well duh, certain aspects scale like I said. the conduit would be better technically on the PS3 (though it'd still look like crap compared to the PS3/360 standard like it does on the Wii) and the online would be better obviously if it was on those systems. It would score worse due to techinical reasons like any game that is released with no changes on a significantly more advanced system. It says nothing about the games quality as an individual.

And the conduit got a 6 on the Wii so its not like its the systems premier shooter.

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Metroid Other M isn't a fall release. Fall doesn't start towards the end of September.Stevo_the_gamer

The fall doesn't start until Sony says so.

Yep nice exclusives for sure. However, I honestly don't know where many of these games will fall in quality/review department, not to mention, personal preference will play a big role into the enjoyment of each of these games. The Conduit 2 and Goldeneye sorry, but I care nothing for them...Conduit you can get a much superior shooting experience on either of the HD consoles and Goldeneye just is looking well bad.

Metroid...well Metroid will be good that's almost a lock as for the remaining 3...Donkey Kong and Kirby are gambles I don't see Donkey Kong: Country Returns being that great of a game (I could be wrong but I'm not feeling it) and as for Kirby, I have personally never liked the Kirby games. That leaves Epic Mickey which like Metroid should be a sure fire quality title that I could see my self enjoying.

So out of the games you just listed I am interested in 2/6 (neither of which are must buys, but each one I would definitely enjoy)...like I said originally a lot of it comes down to personal preference and I suppose I am just not the main audience for these games, not to say things aren't looking good for the Wii, but if SMG2 didn't persuade me to re-buy a Wii none of these will either.

Anyway enough downing the Wii...might as well be happy for Wii owners! Great games (well most are) like I said just not my ****I'm looking forward to Halo:Reach, Fallout: New Vegas, Fable III, LBP2, LA Noire, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, and possibly Medal of Honor and Vanquish. None of which are available on the Wii (to my knowledge) and none of which you might be interested in soo its fine enjoy your games I'll enjoy mine no hard feelings!:) (Unfortunately I know I won't be able to buy all the games on my list:( I'll be lucky to get 4 this year).

TacticalDesire

no **** sherlock

sorry i had to comment on it :P

You have a bit of a reading comprehension problem. I sais "no matter what", is that not close to "by any standards"? THEN it says the part about taking into account platform, and competition on the platform.Gamtrix

I think I understood it perfectly.

They talk in general termsabout how they take platform and genre into account, and then they talk very specifically about our case (high-scoreing games).

And then it says a high-scoring game is outstanding by any standards.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Metroid Other M isn't a fall release. Fall doesn't start towards the end of September.HAZE-Unit

The fall doesn't start until Sony says so.

Can we stick to the topic and stop discussing standards? :PStevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]You have a bit of a reading comprehension problem. I sais "no matter what", is that not close to "by any standards"? THEN it says the part about taking into account platform, and competition on the platform.IronBass

I think I understood it perfectly.

They talk in general termsabout how they take platform and genre into account, and then they talk very specifically about our case (high-scoreing games).

And then it says a high-scoring game is outstanding by any standards.

This thread is going by too fast. I can't keep up. :(

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]They are very hard to fool!mystervj

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

You have a bit of a reading comprehension problem. I sais "no matter what", is that not close to "by any standards"? THEN it says the part about taking into account platform, and competition on the platform.Gamtrix

I think I understood it perfectly.

They talk in general termsabout how they take platform and genre into account, and then they talk very specifically about our case (high-scoreing games).

And then it says a high-scoring game is outstanding by any standards.

i searched this thread for the biggest fail post. And this would be it.

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Kirby's Epic Yarn

Why would I wan't to play a game that is pretty much exactly just like the previous games in the series.Also, why the sidescrolling levels? What is this, 1995? Why can't it be in a full 3D world. Also, the graphics burn my eyes. to friggin bright.

Donkey Kong Country Returns

Anothers sidescrolling game? Are we still on the SNES? It's 2010 people, keep sidescroling for the handhelds. Also, unless this DKC game is made by Rare I do not care. From what I gather this game is made by the people who did the Metroid trilogy. Which is bad news since the games were terrible. Gameplay seems the same as they did in the first in the series. Graphics look like a PS2 games.

Disney's Epic Mickey

The proof that the Wii is the kiddiest console on the market and a complete joke. People are actually excited for a Disney game? A disney game about Mickey Mouse? The cartoons my father watched as a kid and has now turned into a company releasing nothing related to the character and mediocre CG films and live action television show? People say the developer behind it gives reason for the hype. He is incredibly overrated. The graphics look like something I'd see on the PSP. This game is supposed to cater towards hardcore gamers? wtf are you thinking OP. I'll be surprised if this game sell 100,000 copies.

Conduit 2

Because the first one was so great right? Because FPS work so well with the Wii-mote right? Because the Wii has great online right? Do you sense the sarcasm?

Goldeneye 007 Wii

All I see here is Activision charging you for nostalgia. Graphics look bad, as do the controls. And where is Pierce Brosnan? Nobody is going to by the Daniel Craig version of this. How hard would it to be to make a new and original 007 game? They are j7ust repainting an old and dated car and selling to you new. Rip-Off.

Metroid: Other M

Bad Graphics, check. Bad voice acting, check. Bad controls, check, Team Ninja, of course.

Half-Way

▲ There you go OP. My honest thoughts on those games, in the quote. I'm not trolling, but these are the reasons why I will not be playing these games. Yes, I own a Wii. This is what I truly think.

the colored sentences are the biggest fails iw seen in this thread. enjoy

Maybe you should enlighten us with your opinion, because quite frankly I don't see the problem with most of those statements he's just voicing his opinions

some of which might be valid.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

I think I understood it perfectly.

They talk in general termsabout how they take platform and genre into account, and then they talk very specifically about our case (high-scoreing games).

And then it says a high-scoring game is outstanding by any standards.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] What does it all mean? Release the conduit on the PS3 in the exact same state it is on the Wii, you can even use the Move for the exact same controls and it'll score way worse. It isn't up to par on the PS3, on the Wii theres no comeptition so it's not that bad. Denying this is making you wii fans look bad. It's fact.Gamtrix

Well duh, certain aspects scale like I said. the conduit would be better technically on the PS3 (though it'd still look like crap compared to the PS3/360 standard like it does on the Wii) and the online would be better obviously if it was on those systems. It would score worse due to techinical reasons like any game that is released with no changes on a significantly more advanced system. It says nothing about the games quality as an individual.

And the conduit got a 6 on the Wii so its not like its the systems premier shooter.

You're not really understanding me. I never mention graphics in my post. I said how it would look but forcused very heavily on the tecch as in all technical aspects and not just graphics.

As for the pillar of the shooter genre, the simple fact that you are ignoring is that the genre is subject to alot of the same changes on the Wii as well. universal things like level design and mechanics aren't somehow expected to not br good on the Wii. Wehn Cod came out, aiming down the sights became popular, now most Wii shooters are implementing aiming down the sights. Party systems and voting are all aspects implemented in the latest Wii shooters, sprint, level systems etc are all being implemented into these games as well. Its not as though the Wii is unable to have these things, the reviewers certainly look for them in Wii games just not to such an extent is all.

And the conduit never looked good on the Wii, the best shooters on the Wii are still generally accepted to be the COD games.

[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="oldkingallant"] Controls? The controls for FPS on Wii are far better than broken dual analog controls. The Wii offers a similar control scheme to a mouse and keyboard for FPS, which is pretty much universally considered superior to dual analog.oldkingallant

the button placement on the Wiimote and nunchuk suck I agree with him. Its not ideal for the modern era shooter even if its managable.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"] I'm afraid you don't understand. If Halo Reach scores a 9 on the 360, it's because it has low standards compared to the competition. If it were to be on the PC, it would be a crap game. I hope that cleared up your confusions :)

SilverChimera

Kevin-V himself said that they have higher standards for PC games, which is why most multiplats score the same across the 3 HD systems, even when the PC version is far superior. (Fallout 3, Bioshock, etc)SilverChimera

Oh my, Stevo, I am not getting into this one.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] Why are you listing games? Make an arguement and back it up or stop quoting me. clone01

not to hate on your point but rail shooters aren't really what I would use to make that point.

Dude your trolling "by my logic?" I'm not even going to argue with you anymore.Gamtrix

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"] I'm afraid you don't understand. If Halo Reach scores a 9 on the 360, it's because it has low standards compared to the competition. If it were to be on the PC, it would be a crap game. I hope that cleared up your confusions :)

SilverChimera

It only makes sense that they should have different standards for different systems. The PC can do stuff the PS3/360 flat out can't...however given with what they were working with the PS3/360 devs may have made a fantastic game. Same concept applies to the Wii...the PS3/360 can do things the Wii can't...different standards should apply the devs may have worked hard and made a perfect game given what they had for the Wii.

If you look at games like Halo or KZ...odds are they wouldn't score the 9.0s and 9.5s they score on consoles if they were on the PC with the same exact gameplay and graphics. And if you look at SMG2 odds are if it were on the 360/PS3 it wouldn't have scored a 10 with the same graphics and gameplay...different standards for different systems make sense.

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"] Why are you listing games? Make an arguement and back it up or stop quoting me. ActicEdge

not to hate on your point but rail shooters aren't really what I would use to make that point.

[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="Grawse"]

So jealous of those games, oh wait, I'm 20.

Grawse

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="IronBass"] Nope, that's not what it says.TacticalDesire

It only makes sense that they should have different standards for different systems. The PC can do stuff the PS3/360 flat out can't...however given with what they were working with the PS3/360 devs may have made a fantastic game. Same concept applies to the Wii...the PS3/360 can do things the Wii can't...different standards should apply the devs may have worked hard and made a perfect game given what they had for the Wii.

If you look at games like Halo or KZ...odds are they wouldn't score the 9.0s and 9.5s they score on consoles if they were on the PC with the same exact gameplay and graphics. And if you look at SMG2 odds are if it were on the 360/PS3 it wouldn't have scored a 10 with the same graphics and gameplay...different standards for different systems make sense.

[QUOTE="oldkingallant"][QUOTE="mystervj"] Wii pointer is indeed excellent, but Wii-mote itself features some pretty mind boggling design flaws, fewer buttons and uneven/bad placement on existing buttons.ActicEdge

the button placement on the Wiimote and nunchuk suck I agree with him. Its not ideal for the modern era shooter even if its managable.

Stevo making a thread about the Wii is going to dominate. The rapture will probably be starting soon. :P

[QUOTE="Grawse"]

[QUOTE="farnham"] okay.... so ?themagicbum9720

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

i searched this thread for the biggest fail post. And this would be it.

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ There you go OP. My honest thoughts on those games, in the quote. I'm not trolling, but these are the reasons why I will not be playing these games. Yes, I own a Wii. This is what I truly think.

TacticalDesire

the colored sentences are the biggest fails iw seen in this thread. enjoy

Maybe you should enlighten us with your opinion, because quite frankly I don't see the problem with most of those statements he's just voicing his opinion and some of the mare valid.

well let me explain.

this is a thread about the wii having the best line up.

and in his post he clearly shows which side hes on.

my problem with this is that all complains he has are ignorant, simply because they could easily be used against the HD system lineups.

allow me to explain.

Why would I wan't to play a game that is pretty much exactly just like the previous games in the series.

well i dont know, you tell me. Halo:Reach, Fallout: New Vegas, Fable III, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood,Medal of Honor

Also, why the sidescrolling levels? What is this, 1995?

must be 1995, because limbo got released and it seems like we are slowly moving to 1996 because side-scrollers are evolving, look at LBP2

to friggin bright.

this one was just waaay to much lol

Which is bad news since the games were terrible.

lol? the highest rated game last gen was terrible, Metroid Prime. Aswell as the higest rated FPS ever.

Graphics look like a PS2 games.

yes the ps2 was capable of doing GCN games :roll: metroid prime was one of the best looking games last gen. And Metroid Prime Trilogy (corruption) is one of the best looking wii games.

The proof that the Wii is the kiddiest console on the market and a complete joke.

teh kiddeh