PS3 won't stand up against the Wii come this Fall

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Um, TC is more of a hermit...

Gamtrix

Apparently you haven't been around here much. Stevo is so Hermit its not even funny.

Then I'll just say this...a great game has good everything.Loco_Live

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

As usual, I have to play the preference card when it comes to my tastes and the games the Wii has. I won't argue that the Wii has a very strong exclusive line up this Fall. but it always misses out on a lot of great multiplats that all the other platforms get. Missing out on games like Fallout New Vegas, Vanquish, Medal of Honor, etc still give the PS3 the edge

Zophar87

Two of which, aren't PS3 exclusive.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="mystervj"] Arbitrary scores is the foundation of SW! Possibility or not you need hype threads first, your just making claims based on your own opinion at this point. I can make my own claims too, like how 4 of those titles would only pass for PSN releases in my book.mystervj

Well what exclusives does the PS3 have? Also, PSN games aren't all that great. They are solid downloadable titles but nothing in the scope of those games.

So 2 AAA hype games is suspose to own the fall?

Apparently you haven't been around here much. Stevo is so Hermit its not even funny.

ActicEdge

So? This isn't an exclusive thread. It's library vs library.Chutebox

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

As usual, I have to play the preference card when it comes to my tastes and the games the Wii has. I won't argue that the Wii has a very strong exclusive line up this Fall. but it always misses out on a lot of great multiplats that all the other platforms get. Missing out on games like Fallout New Vegas, Vanquish, Medal of Honor, etc still give the PS3 the edge

Chutebox

Two of which, aren't PS3 exclusive.

stevo made it pretty c;ear he was talking about exclusives :?

[QUOTE="mystervj"]GT5 have AAA hype thread, LBP2 have LBP1's AAA to back it up.IronBass

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

Um, TC is more of a hermit...

ActicEdge

Apparently you haven't been around here much. Stevo is so Hermit its not even funny.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Haha, its your love of halo that gets you the lemming tag. Forget about that trash :P (I kid I kid . .. aabout halo being trash that is)

Also, you just mixed up letters. PC gaming isn't a "lie" its about to "die" :P

Stevo_the_gamer

I reckon' that has to be it. I mean, since 2008... I've bought 1 Xbox 360 game: ODST, and my next game is Halo Reach. Man, that's some hardcore lemming I am that I bought a whopping two Xbox 360 games in 2 years! (Though I did receive MW2 as a gift) So, THREE games! WOW! :P I got more Wii games in that time... does that mean I am a sheep?

Only 2? That kinda does surprise me actually. But nope, definitely a hermit :P

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ Then I'll just say this...a great game has good everything. A good game has good some things. And in my OP i was not only hating the the games' graphics. Nothing about the gameplay in any of the games looks interesting. ▲

Zophar87

Apparently you missed what I said about Lunar 2, but that's completely besides the point... You mentioned something about the graphics in each of the those titles, you even went into detail at times. As far as the gameplay goes, you mentioned maybe a sentence worth of information.

▲ Well I've never read the lunar review. And I've never played these games, since they have yet to released. So all I have to base my judgments on are previews, vids and screens. And yes, I know pro reviews are worthless since most of them are payed off. ▲

[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]It has the possibility, but even then, you shouldn't limit yourself to arbitrary scores. In the end, to each his own.ActicEdge

Well what exclusives does the PS3 have? Also, PSN games aren't all that great. They are solid downloadable titles but nothing in the scope of those games.

▲ DKC look like the type of game you'd DL from PSN, just sayin'. ▲

[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Well what exclusives does the PS3 have? Also, PSN games aren't all that great. They are solid downloadable titles but nothing in the scope of those games.

ActicEdge

So 2 AAA hype games is suspose to own the fall?

Btw, is the TC claiming Wii standards are equal to PS3 standards? Like these Wii Shooters are on equal standards as PS3 shooters? If so, I think people around here need to learn a thing or 2 about how reviews and standards.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] I heard differently, unless that's a more recent change, posters were saying he's one of the older "lemmings" on this board. Gamtrix

Apparently you haven't been around here much. Stevo is so Hermit its not even funny.

Yeah, I been reading this forum for a long time and posted a decent amount of time too. Stevo used to absolutely rip on the Wii and was practically going to marry his PC. He's less uh . . . harsh on all the systems now but he's certainly not a Lemming. Halo is just one of his favourite series, that's basically it. He hasn't even purchased many 360 games in the last 2 years :?

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] I heard differently, unless that's a more recent change, posters were saying he's one of the older "lemmings" on this board. Gamtrix

Apparently you haven't been around here much. Stevo is so Hermit its not even funny.

He's a Hermit. He just love teasing cows. :P

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Apparently you haven't been around here much. Stevo is so Hermit its not even funny.

ActicEdge

Yeah, I been reading this forum for a long time and posted a decent amount of time too. Stevo used to absolutely rip on the Wii and was practically going to marry his PC. He's less uh . . . harsh on all the systems now but he's certainly not a Lemming. Halo is just one of his favourite series, that's basically it. He hasn't even purchased many 360 games in the last 2 years :?

Wii has been dominating this whole year hasn't it? Sure looks that way to me.

▲ DKC look like the type of game you'd DL from PSN, just sayin'. ▲

Loco_Live

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]Then I'll just say this...a great game has good everything.IronBass

▲ No, that would qualify as a good game. Are we talking GS here or opinons? How could something great have somthing wrong with it? It can still be a good game with a flaw or to. ▲

He just love teasing cows. :P

timmy00

Never.

I can't exactly claim flop on sheeps if none of those games have hype threads for them. mystervj

Wii has been dominating this whole year hasn't it? Sure looks that way to me.

KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]▲ DKC look like the type of game you'd DL from PSN, just sayin'. ▲

Stevo_the_gamer

▲ Hmmm...I agree that LBP2 could just be DLC. Graphically however, it looks like a high end PS3 experience. While DKC looks like it could be played on the PS2. Sorry guys, gotta go eat with the family. Will be back to debate later. ▲

>▲ No, that would qualify as a good game. Are we talking GS here or opinons? How could something great have somthing wrong with it? It can still be a good game with a flaw or to. ▲Loco_Live

[QUOTE="mystervj"]I can't exactly claim flop on sheeps if none of those games have hype threads for them. IronBass

▲ Hmmm...I agree that LBP2 could just be DLC. Graphically however, it looks like a high end PS3 experience. While DKC looks like it could be played on the PS2. Sorry guys, gotta go eat with the family. Will be back to debate later. ▲

Loco_Live

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="mystervj"] Arbitrary scores is the foundation of SW! Possibility or not you need hype threads first, your just making claims based on your own opinion at this point. I can make my own claims too, like how 4 of those titles would only pass for PSN releases in my book.Loco_Live

Well what exclusives does the PS3 have? Also, PSN games aren't all that great. They are solid downloadable titles but nothing in the scope of those games.

▲ DKC look like the type of game you'd DL from PSN, just sayin'. ▲

No PSN platformers have scored very well (I suspose you could use braid though and to a far lesser extent Trine),it looks far better than anything on PSN. Hell as far as platforming is concerned, nothing on PSN is better than bit trip Runner. Try again.

Btw, is the TC claiming Wii standards are equal to PS3 standards? Like these Wii Shooters are on equal standards as PS3 shooters? If so, I think people around here need to learn a thing or 2 about how reviews and standards.

Gamtrix

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Loco_Live"]Then I'll just say this...a great game has good everything.Loco_Live

▲ No, that would qualify as a good game. Are we talking GS here or opinons? How could something great have somthing wrong with it? It can still be a good game with a flaw or to. ▲

Great games aren't flawless. I've played lots of great games with some obvious flaws.

Btw, is the TC claiming Wii standards are equal to PS3 standards? Like these Wii Shooters are on equal standards as PS3 shooters? If so, I think people around here need to learn a thing or 2 about how reviews and standards.

Gamtrix

From the GS Review Guidelines:

We Rate Games According to the Current Standards of Their Platforms and Genres

Every gaming platform is different, especially in terms of its technical features. However, we believe high-quality gaming experiences are possible on all the gaming platforms that we cover. So we review games against the standards of their respective platforms by implicitly comparing them to other games on that same platform and, to a lesser extent, to other games in that genre. As a result, our ratings of games on different platforms are not intended to be directly compared to one another. However, relative comparisons do apply, so a game that scores poorly is a poor game by any standards, while a game that scores extremely high is an outstanding game by any standards.

We Acknowledge That New Games Do Not Exist In a Vacuum

Each game we review exists in a competitive environment. That is, a game always has direct or indirect competition from other, possibly very similar games, which causes the game in question to be held to a higher standard. In other words, while technical merits are generally particular to a specific gaming platform, we believe that certain collective, universal standards also exist.GameSpot editors are expected to be familiar with current games on all platforms, in order to maintain an acute sense of global standards for gaming at all times.

GS

Well is friendly until Stevo claimed Wii>PS3, and then is WAR!!!!1111mystervj

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Well what exclusives does the PS3 have? Also, PSN games aren't all that great. They are solid downloadable titles but nothing in the scope of those games.

ActicEdge

▲ DKC look like the type of game you'd DL from PSN, just sayin'. ▲

No PSN platformers have scored very well (I suspose you could use braid though and to a far lesser extent Trine),it looks far better than anything on PSN. Hell as far as platforming is concerned, nothing on PSN is better than bit trip Runner. Try again.

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Well what exclusives does the PS3 have? Also, PSN games aren't all that great. They are solid downloadable titles but nothing in the scope of those games.

ActicEdge

▲ DKC look like the type of game you'd DL from PSN, just sayin'. ▲

No PSN platformers have scored very well (I suspose you could use braid though and to a far lesser extent Trine),it looks far better than anything on PSN. Hell as far as platforming is concerned, nothing on PSN is better than bit trip Runner. Try again.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

Btw, is the TC claiming Wii standards are equal to PS3 standards? Like these Wii Shooters are on equal standards as PS3 shooters? If so, I think people around here need to learn a thing or 2 about how reviews and standards.

IronBass

From GS Review Guidelines:

We Rate Games According to the Current Standards of Their Platforms and Genres

Every gaming platform is different, especially in terms of its technical features. However, we believe high-quality gaming experiences are possible on all the gaming platforms that we cover. So we review games against the standards of their respective platforms by implicitly comparing them to other games on that same platform and, to a lesser extent, to other games in that genre. As a result, our ratings of games on different platforms are not intended to be directly compared to one another. However, relative comparisons do apply, so a game that scores poorly is a poor game by any standards, while a game that scores extremely high is an outstanding game by any standards.

We Acknowledge That New Games Do Not Exist In a Vacuum

Each game we review exists in a competitive environment. That is, a game always has direct or indirect competition from other, possibly very similar games, which causes the game in question to be held to a higher standard. In other words, while technical merits are generally particular to a specific gaming platform, we believe that certain collective, universal standards also exist.GameSpot editors are expected to be familiar with current games on all platforms, in order to maintain an acute sense of global standards for gaming at all times.

GS

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

Btw, is the TC claiming Wii standards are equal to PS3 standards? Like these Wii Shooters are on equal standards as PS3 shooters? If so, I think people around here need to learn a thing or 2 about how reviews and standards.

IronBass

From GS Review Guidelines:

We Rate Games According to the Current Standards of Their Platforms and Genres

Every gaming platform is different, especially in terms of its technical features. However, we believe high-quality gaming experiences are possible on all the gaming platforms that we cover. So we review games against the standards of their respective platforms by implicitly comparing them to other games on that same platform and, to a lesser extent, to other games in that genre. As a result, our ratings of games on different platforms are not intended to be directly compared to one another. However, relative comparisons do apply, so a game that scores poorly is a poor game by any standards, while a game that scores extremely high is an outstanding game by any standards.

We Acknowledge That New Games Do Not Exist In a Vacuum

Each game we review exists in a competitive environment. That is, a game always has direct or indirect competition from other, possibly very similar games, which causes the game in question to be held to a higher standard. In other words, while technical merits are generally particular to a specific gaming platform, we believe that certain collective, universal standards also exist.GameSpot editors are expected to be familiar with current games on all platforms, in order to maintain an acute sense of global standards for gaming at all times.

GS

Btw, is the TC claiming Wii standards are equal to PS3 standards? Like these Wii Shooters are on equal standards as PS3 shooters? If so, I think people around here need to learn a thing or 2 about how reviews and standards.

Gamtrix

There are aspects of reviews that scale and some that are constant. Wii shooters aren't hyped up like other system shooters because the aspects that scale make a big difference a lot of the time. But on the merits of the shooters that did score well on the wii, its probably suggests that they were still great games and had positive aspects going for them. I also laugh at this standards crap, there are no platformers on the PS3 or 360 they come anywhere near the platforming genius of the SMG series, there aren't even any platformers on those systems that are better than Bit Trip Runner yet somehow LBP is a 9? Really?

lol Are you trying to imply that the highlighted text nulifies the beginning of the paragraf? Thank you for backing up my point. The PS3 platform has MUCH higher standards for the shooting genre. It's NOWHERE near close. So while a AAAE shooter on the Wii is a great shooter, it's not up to the standards of a AAAE shooter on the PS3. Deny?Gamtrix

lol Are you trying to imply that the highlighted text nulifies the beginning of the paragraf? Thank you for backing up my point. The PS3 platform has MUCH higher standards for the shooting genre. It's NOWHERE near close. So while a AAAE shooter on the Wii is a great shooter, it's not up to the standards of a AAAE shooter on the PS3. Deny?Gamtrix

What exactly are those standards that are much higher? Obvious;y the online is a big one but what else?

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

From GS Review Guidelines:

[QUOTE="GS"]

We Rate Games According to the Current Standards of Their Platforms and Genres

Every gaming platform is different, especially in terms of its technical features. However, we believe high-quality gaming experiences are possible on all the gaming platforms that we cover. So we review games against the standards of their respective platforms by implicitly comparing them to other games on that same platform and, to a lesser extent, to other games in that genre. As a result, our ratings of games on different platforms are not intended to be directly compared to one another. However, relative comparisons do apply, so a game that scores poorly is a poor game by any standards, while a game that scores extremely high is an outstanding game by any standards.

We Acknowledge That New Games Do Not Exist In a Vacuum

Each game we review exists in a competitive environment. That is, a game always has direct or indirect competition from other, possibly very similar games, which causes the game in question to be held to a higher standard. In other words, while technical merits are generally particular to a specific gaming platform, we believe that certain collective, universal standards also exist.GameSpot editors are expected to be familiar with current games on all platforms, in order to maintain an acute sense of global standards for gaming at all times.

Gamtrix

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ DKC look like the type of game you'd DL from PSN, just sayin'. ▲

mystervj

No PSN platformers have scored very well (I suspose you could use braid though and to a far lesser extent Trine),it looks far better than anything on PSN. Hell as far as platforming is concerned, nothing on PSN is better than bit trip Runner. Try again.

I never mentioned graphics once. Braid outscored it which is why I mentioned it though Braid is more of a puzzler than a platformer though it could be classified as a platformer. As for every other PSN platformergame Bit Trip Runner outscored them here.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] lol Are you trying to imply that the highlighted text nulifies the beginning of the paragraf? Thank you for backing up my point. The PS3 platform has MUCH higher standards for the shooting genre. It's NOWHERE near close. So while a AAAE shooter on the Wii is a great shooter, it's not up to the standards of a AAAE shooter on the PS3. Deny?ActicEdge

What exactly are those standards that are much higher? Obvious;y the online is a big one but what else?

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

From GS Review Guidelines:

[QUOTE="GS"]

We Rate Games According to the Current Standards of Their Platforms and Genres

Every gaming platform is different, especially in terms of its technical features. However, we believe high-quality gaming experiences are possible on all the gaming platforms that we cover. So we review games against the standards of their respective platforms by implicitly comparing them to other games on that same platform and, to a lesser extent, to other games in that genre. As a result, our ratings of games on different platforms are not intended to be directly compared to one another. However, relative comparisons do apply, so a game that scores poorly is a poor game by any standards, while a game that scores extremely high is an outstanding game by any standards.

We Acknowledge That New Games Do Not Exist In a Vacuum

Each game we review exists in a competitive environment. That is, a game always has direct or indirect competition from other, possibly very similar games, which causes the game in question to be held to a higher standard. In other words, while technical merits are generally particular to a specific gaming platform, we believe that certain collective, universal standards also exist.GameSpot editors are expected to be familiar with current games on all platforms, in order to maintain an acute sense of global standards for gaming at all times.

Gamtrix

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

Btw, is the TC claiming Wii standards are equal to PS3 standards? Like these Wii Shooters are on equal standards as PS3 shooters? If so, I think people around here need to learn a thing or 2 about how reviews and standards.

ActicEdge

There are aspects of reviews that scale and some that are constant. Wii shooters aren't hyped up like other system shooters because the aspects that scale make a big difference a lot of the time. But on the merits of the shooters that did score well on the wii, its probably suggests that they were still great games and had positive aspects going for them. I also laugh at this standards crap, there are no platformers on the PS3 or 360 they come anywhere near the platforming genius of the SMG series, there aren't even any platformers on those systems that are better than Bit Trip Runner yet somehow LBP is a 9? Really?

The PS3 has some big multiplats coming that the Wii wont be getting, so it's not really gonna be the domination that you think.

Master_ShakeXXX

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] lol Are you trying to imply that the highlighted text nulifies the beginning of the paragraf? Thank you for backing up my point. The PS3 platform has MUCH higher standards for the shooting genre. It's NOWHERE near close. So while a AAAE shooter on the Wii is a great shooter, it's not up to the standards of a AAAE shooter on the PS3. Deny?IronBass

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ DKC look like the type of game you'd DL from PSN, just sayin'. ▲

oldkingallant

No PSN platformers have scored very well (I suspose you could use braid though and to a far lesser extent Trine),it looks far better than anything on PSN. Hell as far as platforming is concerned, nothing on PSN is better than bit trip Runner. Try again.

which is funny because the PS3 and 360 have terrible platformers and nothing on PSN or XBLA matches any of the top Wii platformers for the most part. The exceptions are braid and Limbo and they are puzzle platformers and incredibly short.

[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

No PSN platformers have scored very well (I suspose you could use braid though and to a far lesser extent Trine),it looks far better than anything on PSN. Hell as far as platforming is concerned, nothing on PSN is better than bit trip Runner. Try again.

ActicEdge

I never mentioned graphics once. Braid outscored it which is why I mentioned it though Braid is more of a puzzler than a platformer though it could be classified as a platformer. As for every other PSN platformergame Bit Trip Runner outscored them here.

LBP being the only exception.

[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

No PSN platformers have scored very well (I suspose you could use braid though and to a far lesser extent Trine),it looks far better than anything on PSN. Hell as far as platforming is concerned, nothing on PSN is better than bit trip Runner. Try again.

ActicEdge

I never mentioned graphics once. Braid outscored it which is why I mentioned it though Braid is more of a puzzler than a platformer though it could be classified as a platformer. As for every other PSN platformergame Bit Trip Runner outscored them here.