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#201 dynamitecop
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@Zen_Light said:

I guess Project Scorpio is somehow more real because it was announced. Talk about crazy and double standards...

That's the way things work in the real world, things that are announced are publicly known to actually be something and exist, things which are unknown to the public do not exist.

They haven't even launched the Pro yet and there's been absolutely zero talk of the PlayStation 5, it doesn't exist in any form, Scorpio does, and it's coming next year.

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#202 deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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LOL, this guy, you truly are an idiot....

Last time I checked these screenshots I took of UT Alpha and Star Citizen running on my rig look far better than Doom 2...

Are you sure you're not projecting your fail on me?

LOL, so basically, you've went out of your way and posted random copy/paste pics to disprove your butthurt insecurity?

Gotcha!

Here's an advice: PS4 has plenty and plenty of 3rd party games to play. This isn't rocket science to figure that out, Quacknut. Try following the old PS2 motto: "Live in your world, PLAY in ours"

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#203 QuadKnight
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@dynamitecop said:
@Zen_Light said:

I guess Project Scorpio is somehow more real because it was announced. Talk about crazy and double standards...

That's the way things work in the real world, things that are announced are publicly known to actually be something and exist, things which are unknown to the public do not exist.

They haven't even launched the Pro yet and there's been absolutely zero talk of the PlayStation 5, it doesn't exist in any form, Scorpio does, and it's coming next year.

I guess that explains what happened to Xbone's AAA exclusives.

lol @ "greatest games"

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#204 dynamitecop
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@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:
@Zen_Light said:

I guess Project Scorpio is somehow more real because it was announced. Talk about crazy and double standards...

That's the way things work in the real world, things that are announced are publicly known to actually be something and exist, things which are unknown to the public do not exist.

They haven't even launched the Pro yet and there's been absolutely zero talk of the PlayStation 5, it doesn't exist in any form, Scorpio does, and it's coming next year.

I guess that explains what happened to Xbone's AAA exclusives.

lol @ "greatest games"

Your post in no way, shape or form applies or has any connection with what I said, it's not even relatable

You can't even execute a clever quip, what use are you to anyone?

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#205 tormentos
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@darkangel115 said:

hardly diluted. I would have jumped on a pro if it had a 4k blu ray player in it. I can care less of a name brand, just funny to see all the 180s. Still enjoying both my PS4 and XB1 though ;)

@darkangel115 said:

It had in it a BD player, something that not everybody wanted. I mean HD TVs weren't even a standard back then nor was HDMI as it is today.

Scorpio will have a 4k player something not everybody want,i mean 4K tv's aren't even standard today neither is HDR.

Now this is using your same bullshit against you.

@darkangel115 said:

So why all the xbox is doomed threads? By all means the xbox one is selling better then any console ever outside the PS4. this includes the wii, PS3, and 360 from last gen.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/lets-take-a-trip-back-to-2006-31236614/

Proof that you are a deluded fanboy who doesn't even know what the fu** it argue.

The Wii smoked the xbox one sales wise,in fact the wii sold 20 million units in 1 year,is the only console to beat the PS4 in its first year,by the way the PS3 also beat the xbox one in the same time frame by like a million units.

So yeah you are deluded..lol

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#206  Edited By QuadKnight
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@VERTIGO47 said:
@quadknight said:

LOL, this guy, you truly are an idiot....

Last time I checked these screenshots I took of UT Alpha and Star Citizen running on my rig look far better than Doom 2...

Are you sure you're not projecting your fail on me?

LOL, so basically, you've went out of your way and posted random copy/paste pics to disprove your butthurt insecurity?

Gotcha!

Here's an advice: PS4 has plenty and plenty of 3rd party games to play. This isn't rocket science to figure that out, Quacknut. Try following the old PS2 motto: "Live in your world, PLAY in ours"

You got fuking rekt and that was the only comeback you could muster? Where's your PC clown?

Yea, that's right you've got nothing but a shitty FlopBox. Get lost lemming.

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#207 22Toothpicks
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A PS5 in '18 would not surprise me but it's not going to happen. If the iterative hardware model works out having a decent amount of time between each release be really important. 3 year cycles is my best guess. Makes me wonder why MS/Sony don't make a console that is up-gradable like a compu...oh, nvm.

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#208 Heil68
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SONY wins again.

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#209 dynamitecop
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@Heil68 said:

SONY wins again.

Yeah, they win the award of not having the most powerful hardware for four straight generations.

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#210 babyjoker1221
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This thread is hilarious!

You can actually see the cows hoping, begging, praying that this rumor is true. They want so bad for Sony to announce a PS5 at E3 2017. Really goes to show what kind of desperation they have following the PS4 pro reveal.

A very vague rumor, and cows here clinging to it as if their lives depended on it.

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!

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#211 X_CAPCOM_X
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@dynamitecop said:
@X_CAPCOM_X said:

These companies are capable of many things. Remind yourself, they "back peddled" on DRM and always online functionality.

Think what you will, they back peddled due to community outrage of something negatively viewed, not even remotely comparable to back peddling on something positive that you have confirmed to be creating, especially a console itself and its specifications.

Am I sensing a hankering of hope for something lesser? If anything it will be more that what they confirmed it to be, not less.

"Cloud power," "the power of the cell," "highest quality pixels," "it only does everything" etc. and other marketing slogans are fairly observable for what they are. Recall carefully: the DRM and always-online functionality were also marketed as selling points to consumers as well.

These and more are very common hype-generating tactics employed by companies that above all want your money. Announcing a console over a year away is another observable one. Given these, I'd greatly prefer to maintain a critical standpoint towards everything these companies do.

Also,
"Am I sensing a hankering of hope for something lesser?"
Is this the same sense you used to diagnose the not-so-thrilled kid who won the x1? You might want to tune that radar.

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#212 dynamitecop
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@babyjoker1221 said:

This thread is hilarious!

You can actually see the cows hoping, begging, praying that this rumor is true. They want so bad for Sony to announce a PS5 at E3 2017. Really goes to show what kind of desperation they have following the PS4 pro reveal.

A very vague rumor, and cows here clinging to it as if their lives depended on it.

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!

It's not even a rumor, that's the worst part, it's just some analyst making a prediction.

There's literally nothing, and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to indicate the concept, planning, development or anything else relating to the existence of the PlayStation 5, because it doesn't exist.

They haven't even released the PlayStation 4 Pro, and already cows are in a total mental psychosis of desperation for it to be something.

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#213 deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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@quadknight said:
@VERTIGO47 said:
@quadknight said:

LOL, this guy, you truly are an idiot....

Last time I checked these screenshots I took of UT Alpha and Star Citizen running on my rig look far better than Doom 2...

Are you sure you're not projecting your fail on me?

LOL, so basically, you've went out of your way and posted random copy/paste pics to disprove your butthurt insecurity?

Gotcha!

Here's an advice: PS4 has plenty and plenty of 3rd party games to play. This isn't rocket science to figure that out, Quacknut. Try following the old PS2 motto: "Live in your world, PLAY in ours"

You got fucking got rekt and that was the only comeback you could muster? Where's your PC clown?

Yea, that's right you've got nothing but a shitty FlopBox. Get lost lemming.

Poor Quacknut, getting all defensive, emotionally rekt and butthurt, going QUACK quacking and going NUTS, not even those random copy/paste pics can help. LOL

I was clear and NEVER said I game on PC........I repeat, for your sake of lacking reading comprehension skills....

I'M .....NOT....... A...... PC...... GAMER.

I have a MacBook I currently use. Now crawl back to your bedroom, crybaby. And play your PS4.

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#214 deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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@babyjoker1221 said:

This thread is hilarious!

You can actually see the cows hoping, begging, praying that this rumor is true. They want so bad for Sony to announce a PS5 at E3 2017. Really goes to show what kind of desperation they have following the PS4 pro reveal.

A very vague rumor, and cows here clinging to it as if their lives depended on it.

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!

indeed! LOL

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#215  Edited By QuadKnight
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@VERTIGO47 said:
@quadknight said:
@VERTIGO47 said:
@quadknight said:

LOL, this guy, you truly are an idiot....

Last time I checked these screenshots I took of UT Alpha and Star Citizen running on my rig look far better than Doom 2...

Are you sure you're not projecting your fail on me?

LOL, so basically, you've went out of your way and posted random copy/paste pics to disprove your butthurt insecurity?

Gotcha!

Here's an advice: PS4 has plenty and plenty of 3rd party games to play. This isn't rocket science to figure that out, Quacknut. Try following the old PS2 motto: "Live in your world, PLAY in ours"

You got fucking got rekt and that was the only comeback you could muster? Where's your PC clown?

Yea, that's right you've got nothing but a shitty FlopBox. Get lost lemming.

Poor Quacknut, getting all defensive, emotionally rekt and butthurt, going QUACK quacking and going NUTS, not even those random copy/paste pics can help. LOL

I was clear and NEVER said I game on PC........I repeat, for your sake of lacking reading comprehension skills....

I'M .....NOT....... A...... PC...... GAMER.

I have a MacBook I currently use. Now crawl back to your bedroom, crybaby. And play your PS4.

I've got a macbook too, it doesn't make you a PC gamer, macs are shit for games.

You're a filthy lem clown lol.

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@quadknight said:

I've got a macbook too, it doesn't make you a PC gamer, macs are shit for games.

You're a clown lol.

Did you miss the part where he said

I'M .....NOT....... A...... PC...... GAMER.

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#217  Edited By deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:

I've got a macbook too, it doesn't make you a PC gamer, macs are shit for games.

You're a clown lol.

Did you miss the part where he said

I'M .....NOT....... A...... PC...... GAMER.

Reading Comprehension doesn't quite sit well with him.

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#218 QuadKnight
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@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:

I've got a macbook too, it doesn't make you a PC gamer, macs are shit for games.

You're a clown lol.

Did you miss the part where he said

I'M .....NOT....... A...... PC...... GAMER.

Who gives a shit? He said I didn't own a PC, and if I did it probably couldn't run Doom 2 and I was hiding behind it. Turns out he's the one with a shit macbook that probably can't run Doom 2.

He owned himself when he tried to call me out like that.

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#219 dynamitecop
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@quadknight said:
@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:

I've got a macbook too, it doesn't make you a PC gamer, macs are shit for games.

You're a clown lol.

Did you miss the part where he said

I'M .....NOT....... A...... PC...... GAMER.

Who gives a shit? He said I didn't own a PC, and if I did it probably couldn't run Doom 2 and I was hiding behind it. Turns out he's the one with a shit macbook that probably can't run Doom 2.

He owned himself when he tried to call me out like that.

I'd really like to see your Steam account, I think that would just be so.... revealing.

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#220  Edited By QuadKnight
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@VERTIGO47 said:
@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:

I've got a macbook too, it doesn't make you a PC gamer, macs are shit for games.

You're a clown lol.

Did you miss the part where he said

I'M .....NOT....... A...... PC...... GAMER.

Reading Comprehension doesn't quite sit well with him.

If you don't own a PC or are a PC gamer why the hell were you talking about PCs lol? I wasn't the one who brought up PCs, it was you.

Massive selfownage on your part. GTFO lem.

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#221 QuadKnight
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@dynamitecop said:

I'd really like to see your Steam account, I think that would just be so.... revealing.

Why? You gonna ask for my "credentials" in the medium like you did when you owned yourself last time on SW?

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@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:

I'd really like to see your Steam account, I think that would just be so.... revealing.

Why? You gonna ask for my "credentials" in the medium like you did when you owned yourself last time on SW?

No, I'd just like to get a better idea of what you're about.

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@VERTIGO47 said:
@babyjoker1221 said:

This thread is hilarious!

You can actually see the cows hoping, begging, praying that this rumor is true. They want so bad for Sony to announce a PS5 at E3 2017. Really goes to show what kind of desperation they have following the PS4 pro reveal.

A very vague rumor, and cows here clinging to it as if their lives depended on it.

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!

indeed! LOL

Lmfao...

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#224 QuadKnight
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@dynamitecop: You're very creepy.

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2019 probably

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#226 Spitfire-Six
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You guys need to come to grips with the Fact that Scorpio will be the most powerful console ever released and that Sony does not have a secret answer in the making.

Speaking to The Guardian, head of Sony Interactive Entertainment, Andrew House said: “We think that for a really substantial period of time [the PS4, PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro are] the PlayStation 4 lineup. We’re very comfortable with that.”

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/09/09/playstation-4-pro-will-be-the-last-ps4-edition-for-substantial-period-of-time

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#227 Zen_Light
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@dynamitecop said:
@Zen_Light said:

I guess Project Scorpio is somehow more real because it was announced. Talk about crazy and double standards...

That's the way things work in the real world, things that are announced are publicly known to actually be something and exist, things which are unknown to the public do not exist.

They haven't even launched the Pro yet and there's been absolutely zero talk of the PlayStation 5, it doesn't exist in any form, Scorpio does, and it's coming next year.

Guess what? PS4P comes out in November of this year. That means for a whole year at least, PS4P will be the most powerful console on the planet. Must drive you crazy, the way you ramble on about power.

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#228  Edited By dynamitecop
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@Zen_Light said:
@dynamitecop said:
@Zen_Light said:

I guess Project Scorpio is somehow more real because it was announced. Talk about crazy and double standards...

That's the way things work in the real world, things that are announced are publicly known to actually be something and exist, things which are unknown to the public do not exist.

They haven't even launched the Pro yet and there's been absolutely zero talk of the PlayStation 5, it doesn't exist in any form, Scorpio does, and it's coming next year.

Guess what? PS4P comes out in November of this year. That means for a whole year at least, PS4P will be the most powerful console on the planet. Must drive you crazy, the way you ramble on about power.

Why would it drive me crazy? I've got enough video game shit to tide me over for a lifetime, I think I can survive the next 14 months.

@spitfire-six said:

You guys need to come to grips with the Fact that Scorpio will be the most powerful console ever released and that Sony does not have a secret answer in the making.

Speaking to The Guardian, head of Sony Interactive Entertainment, Andrew House said: “We think that for a really substantial period of time [the PS4, PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro are] the PlayStation 4 lineup. We’re very comfortable with that.”

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/09/09/playstation-4-pro-will-be-the-last-ps4-edition-for-substantial-period-of-time

Notice how they didn't just say "a substantial amount of time", and actually said "a really substantial amount of time" further accentuating the length.

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#229 ShadowDeathX
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The PS4 Pro is already bottlenecked by the CPU and memory bandwidth, so 2018 might be possible.

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#230 Beavis
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If PS5 is in development, I don't think they should reveal it any time soon because it could have a negative impact on PS4 Pro sales knowing a superior PS5 is coming out just a couple years afterwards.

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#232  Edited By dynamitecop
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@pdogg93 said:
@dynamitecop said:
@Heil68 said:

SONY wins again.

Yeah, they win the award of not having the most powerful hardware for four straight generations.

hmmm. So PS4 and PS4Pro are weaker than the xbone and xbone s? See how you sound? PlayStation has this gen in the bag as they had last gen in the bag too.

  • Nintendo 64 > PlayStation
  • Xbox > PlayStation 2
  • Xbox 360 > PlayStation 3
  • Xbox Scorpio > PlayStation Pro

Scorpio and Pro are both 8th generation systems, by the end of the generation Sony will not be holding the lead in hardware performance, as has been the case in every single generation they have existed.

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#233  Edited By pdogg93
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@dynamitecop said:
@pdogg93 said:
@dynamitecop said:
@Heil68 said:

SONY wins again.

Yeah, they win the award of not having the most powerful hardware for four straight generations.

hmmm. So PS4 and PS4Pro are weaker than the xbone and xbone s? See how you sound? PlayStation has this gen in the bag as they had last gen in the bag too.

  • Nintendo 64 > PlayStation
  • Xbox > PlayStation 2
  • Xbox 360 > PlayStation 3
  • Xbox Scorpio > PlayStation Pro

Scorpio and Pro are both 8th generation systems, by the end of the generation Sony will not be holding the lead in hardware performance, as has been the case in every single generation they have existed.

  • PlayStation came out 2 years before N64 so yes it was weaker.
  • PS3 was more powerful than xbox360 (http://ca.ign.com/articles/2010/08/26/xbox-360-vs-playstation-3-the-hardware-throwdown?page=2).
  • 8th gen started with xbox one being the weaker system, 4 years later it is by far the weakest system, and scorpio hasn't released yet. You're banking on some 6tf system winning this gen lol.
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#234  Edited By dynamitecop
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@pdogg93 said:
@dynamitecop said:
@pdogg93 said:
@dynamitecop said:

Yeah, they win the award of not having the most powerful hardware for four straight generations.

hmmm. So PS4 and PS4Pro are weaker than the xbone and xbone s? See how you sound? PlayStation has this gen in the bag as they had last gen in the bag too.

  • Nintendo 64 > PlayStation
  • Xbox > PlayStation 2
  • Xbox 360 > PlayStation 3
  • Xbox Scorpio > PlayStation Pro

Scorpio and Pro are both 8th generation systems, by the end of the generation Sony will not be holding the lead in hardware performance, as has been the case in every single generation they have existed.

PlayStation came out 2 years before N64 so yes it was weaker. PS3 was more powerful than xbox360. 8th gen started with xbox one being the weaker system, 4 years later it is by far the weakest system, and scorpio hasn't released yet. You're banking on some 6tf system winning this gen lol.

Time is irrelevant and you're trying to scapgoat what I said by moving a goalpost surrounding time. Well here you go, the Sega Saturn was more powerful than the PlayStation overall and it released before it, especially when it came to 2D, but it was hard to develop for given it's completely separate 2D and 3D GPU's. On top of this the Saturn rendered quadrilaterals and perspective correct texture mapping instead of triangles and affine texture mapping which allowed it to render symmetrical objects and environments while the PlayStation had constant distortion and warping. The PS3 was more powerful than the Xbox 360 theoretically, but in terms of practical performance it was not, this showed itself greatly in multi-platform games where the 360 in nearly all scenarios outperformed it.

I'm not banking on anything, I'm stating facts, Sony has not once finished a generation with their console being the most powerful, which is exactly what I said.

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#235  Edited By deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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@dynamitecop said:
@pdogg93 said:
@dynamitecop said:
@pdogg93 said:

hmmm. So PS4 and PS4Pro are weaker than the xbone and xbone s? See how you sound? PlayStation has this gen in the bag as they had last gen in the bag too.

  • Nintendo 64 > PlayStation
  • Xbox > PlayStation 2
  • Xbox 360 > PlayStation 3
  • Xbox Scorpio > PlayStation Pro

Scorpio and Pro are both 8th generation systems, by the end of the generation Sony will not be holding the lead in hardware performance, as has been the case in every single generation they have existed.

PlayStation came out 2 years before N64 so yes it was weaker. PS3 was more powerful than xbox360. 8th gen started with xbox one being the weaker system, 4 years later it is by far the weakest system, and scorpio hasn't released yet. You're banking on some 6tf system winning this gen lol.

Time is irrelevant and you're trying to scapgoat what I said by moving a goalpost surrounding time. Well here you go, the Sega Saturn was more powerful than the PlayStation overall and it released before it, especially when it came to 2D, but it was hard to develop for given it's completely separate 2D and 3D GPU's. On top of this the Saturn rendered quadrilaterals and perspective correct texture mapping instead of triangles and affine texture mapping which allowed it to render symmetrical objects and environments while the PlayStation had constant distortion and warping. The PS3 was more powerful than the Xbox 360 theoretically, but in terms of practical performance it was not, this showed itself greatly in multi-platform games where the 360 in nearly all scenarios outperformed it.

I'm not banking on anything, I'm stating facts, Sony has not once finished a generation with their console being the most powerful, which is exactly what I said.

And yet, between MS and Sony, Sony has definitively won every generation.

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Funny that, huh?

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#236  Edited By dynamitecop
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@reduc_ab_ said:
@dynamitecop said:
@pdogg93 said:
@dynamitecop said:

  • Nintendo 64 > PlayStation
  • Xbox > PlayStation 2
  • Xbox 360 > PlayStation 3
  • Xbox Scorpio > PlayStation Pro

Scorpio and Pro are both 8th generation systems, by the end of the generation Sony will not be holding the lead in hardware performance, as has been the case in every single generation they have existed.

PlayStation came out 2 years before N64 so yes it was weaker. PS3 was more powerful than xbox360. 8th gen started with xbox one being the weaker system, 4 years later it is by far the weakest system, and scorpio hasn't released yet. You're banking on some 6tf system winning this gen lol.

Time is irrelevant and you're trying to scapgoat what I said by moving a goalpost surrounding time. Well here you go, the Sega Saturn was more powerful than the PlayStation overall and it released before it, especially when it came to 2D, but it was hard to develop for given it's completely separate 2D and 3D GPU's. On top of this the Saturn rendered quadrilaterals and perspective correct texture mapping instead of triangles and affine texture mapping which allowed it to render symmetrical objects and environments while the PlayStation had constant distortion and warping. The PS3 was more powerful than the Xbox 360 theoretically, but in terms of practical performance it was not, this showed itself greatly in multi-platform games where the 360 in nearly all scenarios outperformed it.

I'm not banking on anything, I'm stating facts, Sony has not once finished a generation with their console being the most powerful, which is exactly what I said.

And yet, between MS and Sony, Sony has definitively won every generation.

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Funny that, huh?

Is this thread or my comment about sales? Nope, it's about hardware.

Thanks for playing.

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#237  Edited By deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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@dynamitecop said:
@reduc_ab_ said:
@dynamitecop said:
@pdogg93 said:

PlayStation came out 2 years before N64 so yes it was weaker. PS3 was more powerful than xbox360. 8th gen started with xbox one being the weaker system, 4 years later it is by far the weakest system, and scorpio hasn't released yet. You're banking on some 6tf system winning this gen lol.

Time is irrelevant and you're trying to scapgoat what I said by moving a goalpost surrounding time. Well here you go, the Sega Saturn was more powerful than the PlayStation overall and it released before it, especially when it came to 2D, but it was hard to develop for given it's completely separate 2D and 3D GPU's. On top of this the Saturn rendered quadrilaterals and perspective correct texture mapping instead of triangles and affine texture mapping which allowed it to render symmetrical objects and environments while the PlayStation had constant distortion and warping. The PS3 was more powerful than the Xbox 360 theoretically, but in terms of practical performance it was not, this showed itself greatly in multi-platform games where the 360 in nearly all scenarios outperformed it.

I'm not banking on anything, I'm stating facts, Sony has not once finished a generation with their console being the most powerful, which is exactly what I said.

And yet, between MS and Sony, Sony has definitively won every generation.

.

.

.

Funny that, huh?

Is this thread or my comment about sales? Nope, it's about hardware.

Thanks for playing.

In other words, yes, Sony has won every generation, including the present one.

Thanks for letting me play.

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#238 dynamitecop
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@reduc_ab_ said:
@dynamitecop said:
@reduc_ab_ said:
@dynamitecop said:
@pdogg93 said:

PlayStation came out 2 years before N64 so yes it was weaker. PS3 was more powerful than xbox360. 8th gen started with xbox one being the weaker system, 4 years later it is by far the weakest system, and scorpio hasn't released yet. You're banking on some 6tf system winning this gen lol.

Time is irrelevant and you're trying to scapgoat what I said by moving a goalpost surrounding time. Well here you go, the Sega Saturn was more powerful than the PlayStation overall and it released before it, especially when it came to 2D, but it was hard to develop for given it's completely separate 2D and 3D GPU's. On top of this the Saturn rendered quadrilaterals and perspective correct texture mapping instead of triangles and affine texture mapping which allowed it to render symmetrical objects and environments while the PlayStation had constant distortion and warping. The PS3 was more powerful than the Xbox 360 theoretically, but in terms of practical performance it was not, this showed itself greatly in multi-platform games where the 360 in nearly all scenarios outperformed it.

I'm not banking on anything, I'm stating facts, Sony has not once finished a generation with their console being the most powerful, which is exactly what I said.

And yet, between MS and Sony, Sony has definitively won every generation.

.

.

.

Funny that, huh?

Is this thread or my comment about sales? Nope, it's about hardware.

Thanks for playing.

In other words, yes, Sony has won every generation, including the present one.

Thanks for letting me play.

Again, this is a hardware discussion, if you want to talk about sales there are plenty of other places you can do that, but not here.

I'm sorry to inform you, but PlayStation doesn't win at everything, and not once has it won in terms of hardware power and that's not changing this generation.

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#239 Heil68
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@dynamitecop said:
@Heil68 said:

SONY wins again.

Yeah, they win the award of not having the most powerful hardware for four straight generations.

Now PS4 is currently the worlds most powerful and now its current gen 8 console leader.

SONY wins again

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#240 SecretPolice
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Yes, it'll go from PS4 Amature's 4TF to a whopping 5.5TF for the PS Jive and the 2017 Scorpio 7TF still wins baby. :P

Anyhooie, cows getting more desperate and insecure with each passing day, good stuff.

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#241 ShepardCommandr
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even 10 tera flops isn't enough for native 4k gaming

You are going to want at least 15 for maximum comfort.You can either scale down the visuals and opt for 4k/60fps or make something really pretty at 30fps.

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#242 darkangel115
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@tormentos said:
@darkangel115 said:

hardly diluted. I would have jumped on a pro if it had a 4k blu ray player in it. I can care less of a name brand, just funny to see all the 180s. Still enjoying both my PS4 and XB1 though ;)

@darkangel115 said:

It had in it a BD player, something that not everybody wanted. I mean HD TVs weren't even a standard back then nor was HDMI as it is today.

Scorpio will have a 4k player something not everybody want,i mean 4K tv's aren't even standard today neither is HDR.

Now this is using your same bullshit against you.

@darkangel115 said:

So why all the xbox is doomed threads? By all means the xbox one is selling better then any console ever outside the PS4. this includes the wii, PS3, and 360 from last gen.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/lets-take-a-trip-back-to-2006-31236614/

Proof that you are a deluded fanboy who doesn't even know what the fu** it argue.

The Wii smoked the xbox one sales wise,in fact the wii sold 20 million units in 1 year,is the only console to beat the PS4 in its first year,by the way the PS3 also beat the xbox one in the same time frame by like a million units.

So yeah you are deluded..lol

how is that deluded. I never said 4k was a standard. the BD drive on the PS3 made it very expensive while the system itself was less powerful then a 360 (I know cell blah blah, but most games ran better on 360 which is kinda the point) If the XB1S launched at 600 bucks just because it had a 4k BD drive in it, I would say the same exact thing. We are also talking 10 years ago, 10 years ago i wasn't making the money I am now. dropping 900 bucks for 2 consoles was a bigger deal for me. Having to pay extra for a BD drive I didn't want sucked. I still did it cause I'm not a fanboy though lol. Now it's not a big deal to me to drop money like that. Not only that, I have 2 4k TVs and literally 0 native 4k content. If the Pro was a 4k system I'd jump on it day 1, This way I can have the Pro on 1 TV and the scorpio on another. But since it isn't, doesn't make sense to me. I'd be better off trading my XB1 for an slim and buying scorpio next year. The main thing is, I can still play all the exclusives. The only game sony is making I want right now is horizon and I can still play that on my OG PS4.

As far as sales go, when I made that post, it was true, not sure if it is anymore now, probably not, but it was true back then. That's what all the sales reports state, If it's wrong, then so be it but that was the info we all had that the PS4 was the fastest selling and the XB1 was 2nd. Unlike you, If i misspeak, i have no issue saying I'm wrong. You are just sadly a deluded fanboy. You laughed at the lemmings for claiming the XB1 had a 2nd GPU and you were running around saying the pro would be 5.5TF when we all knew it was 4.2, You tried calling me a liar about having a 4k TV i proved you wrong, then you tried saying that upscaled content on it is worse then 1080p, I proved you wrong and yet you still wouldn't admit it. But I'm sure if you ever get a 4k TV you won't mind playing upscaled games on it on your PS4, even though you trashed upscaling for the past 3 years. Thats why you are the delusional fanboy, and I'm just a gamer who likes games

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@PSP107 said:

@kingsfan_0333: "The business thrives on blind, dumb fans such as yourselves."

Casuals make up the majority of console sales.

...so?

Just saying, you won't see me overjoyed because a company decides to release a new console earlier than expected.

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#244  Edited By APiranhaAteMyVa
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The whole point of the Pro is to extend the generation, this will never happen.

Sony would never waste money on R&D and marketing of the Pro, just to kill it a year later.

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#245  Edited By deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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@dynamitecop said:
@reduc_ab_ said:
@dynamitecop said:
@reduc_ab_ said:

And yet, between MS and Sony, Sony has definitively won every generation.

.

.

.

Funny that, huh?

Is this thread or my comment about sales? Nope, it's about hardware.

Thanks for playing.

In other words, yes, Sony has won every generation, including the present one.

Thanks for letting me play.

Again, this is a hardware discussion, if you want to talk about sales there are plenty of other places you can do that, but not here.

I'm sorry to inform you, but PlayStation doesn't win at everything, and not once has it won in terms of hardware power and that's not changing this generation.

Funny thing is, the PS3 was the most powerful console last gen. You try and talk around that fact, but at the end of the day it's the truth. And this gen, the PS4 is the most powerful, and has been from the start. That'll change with Scorpio coming around, but obviously raw power is not what matters when it comes to leading the realm of consoles. Sony just has what MS doesn't. And that's that.

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#246  Edited By oflow
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So when Xbox fans talk about a confirmed console that's a year away it's taboo and lems just begging, but when Sony fans talk about a console that's really NOTHING more than a rumor it's cool?

The funniest shit is the TC is here gloating about the rumored PS5 when the Pro isn't even out yet.

Using TC logic, since MS has now staggered their release to be different than Sony's, then the console after Scorpio with make PS5 a loser again the year after it comes out.

But the PS5 Pro will beat that too I guess. Dat cow logic.

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#247 Sphensen
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Jesus Christ does anyone play games on their chosen console or do they buy them to brag about numbers?

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#248 Beavis
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I remember back in the day when it used to be all about bits.

We had 8bit consoles, 16 bits, 32bits etc.

Now it's all about dem TFLOPS!!!

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@darkangel115 said:

how is that deluded. I never said 4k was a standard. the BD drive on the PS3 made it very expensive while the system itself was less powerful then a 360 (I know cell blah blah, but most games ran better on 360 which is kinda the point) If the XB1S launched at 600 bucks just because it had a 4k BD drive in it, I would say the same exact thing. We are also talking 10 years ago, 10 years ago i wasn't making the money I am now. dropping 900 bucks for 2 consoles was a bigger deal for me. Having to pay extra for a BD drive I didn't want sucked. I still did it cause I'm not a fanboy though lol. Now it's not a big deal to me to drop money like that. Not only that, I have 2 4k TVs and literally 0 native 4k content. If the Pro was a 4k system I'd jump on it day 1, This way I can have the Pro on 1 TV and the scorpio on another. But since it isn't, doesn't make sense to me. I'd be better off trading my XB1 for an slim and buying scorpio next year. The main thing is, I can still play all the exclusives. The only game sony is making I want right now is horizon and I can still play that on my OG PS4.

As far as sales go, when I made that post, it was true, not sure if it is anymore now, probably not, but it was true back then. That's what all the sales reports state, If it's wrong, then so be it but that was the info we all had that the PS4 was the fastest selling and the XB1 was 2nd. Unlike you, If i misspeak, i have no issue saying I'm wrong. You are just sadly a deluded fanboy. You laughed at the lemmings for claiming the XB1 had a 2nd GPU and you were running around saying the pro would be 5.5TF when we all knew it was 4.2, You tried calling me a liar about having a 4k TV i proved you wrong, then you tried saying that upscaled content on it is worse then 1080p, I proved you wrong and yet you still wouldn't admit it. But I'm sure if you ever get a 4k TV you won't mind playing upscaled games on it on your PS4, even though you trashed upscaling for the past 3 years. Thats why you are the delusional fanboy, and I'm just a gamer who likes games

No you downplayed 1080p movies using as argument that it wasn't standard and neither HDMI.

And i had a 1080p TV in 2006 by 2007 i had 2.

You making money or not is irrelevant,back then a blu-ray player was $1,000 a next gen console $400,this time 4k players are $300+ next gen consoles are $299 so basically you save $299,back then buying a $500 PS3 saved you $900 vs a stand alone player + a 360.

The PS3 was much better value oh and i am not counting live $50 which now you pay $60 back then you didn't pay on PS3.

No it never was the xbox one has never ever sell faster than the wii dude stock smoking the good stuff.

No that was this gen the PS4 is the fastest the xbox one was second,over all the XBO is 6th and that is because the 360 had a severe shortage that lasted 5 months.

The PS2,3,and 4th all sold faster than the xbox one on its first year,and the wii as well,and if we go by the 3rd year the PS1 sold faster as well.

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#250 darkangel115
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@tormentos said:
@darkangel115 said:

how is that deluded. I never said 4k was a standard. the BD drive on the PS3 made it very expensive while the system itself was less powerful then a 360 (I know cell blah blah, but most games ran better on 360 which is kinda the point) If the XB1S launched at 600 bucks just because it had a 4k BD drive in it, I would say the same exact thing. We are also talking 10 years ago, 10 years ago i wasn't making the money I am now. dropping 900 bucks for 2 consoles was a bigger deal for me. Having to pay extra for a BD drive I didn't want sucked. I still did it cause I'm not a fanboy though lol. Now it's not a big deal to me to drop money like that. Not only that, I have 2 4k TVs and literally 0 native 4k content. If the Pro was a 4k system I'd jump on it day 1, This way I can have the Pro on 1 TV and the scorpio on another. But since it isn't, doesn't make sense to me. I'd be better off trading my XB1 for an slim and buying scorpio next year. The main thing is, I can still play all the exclusives. The only game sony is making I want right now is horizon and I can still play that on my OG PS4.

As far as sales go, when I made that post, it was true, not sure if it is anymore now, probably not, but it was true back then. That's what all the sales reports state, If it's wrong, then so be it but that was the info we all had that the PS4 was the fastest selling and the XB1 was 2nd. Unlike you, If i misspeak, i have no issue saying I'm wrong. You are just sadly a deluded fanboy. You laughed at the lemmings for claiming the XB1 had a 2nd GPU and you were running around saying the pro would be 5.5TF when we all knew it was 4.2, You tried calling me a liar about having a 4k TV i proved you wrong, then you tried saying that upscaled content on it is worse then 1080p, I proved you wrong and yet you still wouldn't admit it. But I'm sure if you ever get a 4k TV you won't mind playing upscaled games on it on your PS4, even though you trashed upscaling for the past 3 years. Thats why you are the delusional fanboy, and I'm just a gamer who likes games

No you downplayed 1080p movies using as argument that it wasn't standard and neither HDMI.

And i had a 1080p TV in 2006 by 2007 i had 2.

You making money or not is irrelevant,back then a blu-ray player was $1,000 a next gen console $400,this time 4k players are $300+ next gen consoles are $299 so basically you save $299,back then buying a $500 PS3 saved you $900 vs a stand alone player + a 360.

The PS3 was much better value oh and i am not counting live $50 which now you pay $60 back then you didn't pay on PS3.

No it never was the xbox one has never ever sell faster than the wii dude stock smoking the good stuff.

No that was this gen the PS4 is the fastest the xbox one was second,over all the XBO is 6th and that is because the 360 had a severe shortage that lasted 5 months.

The PS2,3,and 4th all sold faster than the xbox one on its first year,and the wii as well,and if we go by the 3rd year the PS1 sold faster as well.

When did i downplay 1080p movies? lol in 2006 DVDs were more popular then BD. Most people didn't have BD players. As you stated they were expensive. But realistically they were like 400-500 when the PS3 launched. so getting a PS3 basically meant the game portion was free-100$, it was a big reason for the sale. My brother brought 3 of them to use a BD players. I had 1 and used it to play BD movies. It was a good value for people wanting BD players, in the same way the XB1S is for people wanting 4k BD players. The cheapest one best buy has right now is 300, the same price as an XB1S. It's clear that MS is using that strategy sony used to move PS3s. I know that online was free last gen, doesn't make it a better value, I lost so much time and energy after the PSN hack having to get a new bank card and change all my auto payments over to the new card. That pretty much negated any good will PSN had for being free IMO. i'd gladly pay to never have to deal with that again a simple nominal fee.

The issue you are missing is that while 4k may not be the standard, the pro isn't a "standard" device thats what the slim and original are. the Pro is an enthusiast device, and most enthusiasts will have 4k TVs, Sony dropped the ball on it all to save 15 bucks a unit. which is stupid since the now stand to gain an extra 200 million a year alone on the PSN+ price increase. That alone could have funded the BD drive for the first 13 million or so PS4's every year. in other words they would have PSN+ subscribers paying for the BD drive