"This is one of the worst ports we've ever seen" Gamespy on Dark Souls

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#301 Nanomage
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"] Exactly...

Wich it´s relly a non issue for many people that play on the PC these days,most of them have a controller.

I don't :P If it's a PC game it should support PC controls... Now I know it does support it, but it's basically unplayable. Maybe once they release a mod that corrects that issue, then it will definitely be superior. (at this rate it will probably get modded beyond recognition :lol: )

Oh,I´m sure there will be some community made patch very soon to adress the KB/M controls issue,but as it is,it´s already the best playable version of the game.
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#302 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] Most of the people crying here have not even played the game they are just bashing and complaing because they can. the people that actually are playing the game like myslef, can see this is way over blown. I installed the rez fix day1 and plugged in a controller. I dont have any issues, sure i could come on here and cry all day that from should have fixed the rez themselves, but I dont give a damn someone else did and it was free so whats the difference , other then to complain over and over on the forums about a game you havent played. Advid-Gamer

My housemate got the game and was indeed very annoyed, despite my warnings. He ended up getting a controller, and the resolution mod doesn't work for him. He's still playing the game, because hey, he spent the money, but I don't see why people shouldn't complain and give feedback to seemingly incompetent developers.

Maybe he didnt install it correctly, seems to work very well for most people. try re downloading it and make sure it is the latest version

Version 0.2 did not work for me, but V 0.4 works just fine.
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#303 Peredith
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Damn, alot of jelly console peasants itt. PC be taken their games, fixing them, and making em' better :D Don't worry cows and lems, next gen you might get your HD edition that doesn't run at 8fps. :lol:

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#304 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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Damn, alot of jelly console peasants itt. PC be taken their games, fixing them, and making em' better :D Don't worry cows and lems, next gen you might get your HD edition that doesn't run at 8fps. :lol:

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Yea darksouls looks amazing with the mod, I donated money to the mod maker, he deserves it. Hard to believe all those textures were hidden under all that blur.
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#305 pelvist
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="indzman"]

omg, Dark Souls on PC sucks ? :cry:

parkurtommo

It's not up to standards on PC gaming but it's still the best version of the game.

No it's not, please stop saying this.

Yes it is:

Same gameplay as consoles - check.

Same controls as consoles - check.

More content than the console version. +1

NO framerate issues like the console version has. +1

Same graphics as consoles - check. ( improved with a high rez mod :D ) +1

Mods on PC version +1

-

Whats going on here is this: You console fanboys are jumping all over the PC version saying it looks crap because of its low resolution ( unmodded ) but whats really special about all your childish laughs and giggles is that you like to pretend the unmodded resolution of the PC version is worse than the console version, when it is not.

Using that as some kind of ownage against PC gamerswhen the PC version is no worse than it is on consoles just shows how desperate you all are to get 1up on the leading system and you are making complete fools of yourselves.

...Carry on, please.

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#306 BPoole96
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Damn, alot of jelly console peasants itt. PC be taken their games, fixing them, and making em' better :D Don't worry cows and lems, next gen you might get your HD edition that doesn't run at 8fps. :lol:

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How do you get the HUD to disappear for the screenshots?
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#307 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="Nanomage"]if you use the 360 controllerparkurtommo
Exactly...

You have to use a controller for both other versions. That means that the PC version of the game is superior. You may have to use a controller on it, but why would that make it worse than the console versions?
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#308 Moriarity_
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Hemits love to brag about mods and the ability to use a gamepad, but when a game arrives that actually requires those, they cry their eyes out ...

KiZZo1
It's great to have the option. It sucks when the game is virtually unplayable unless you use a gamepad. The game should be playable with kb/m when that is the primary control scheme used on pc. I would rather From didn't bother porting the game rather than doing a halfassed job of it.
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#309 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]pc gamers need to stop b*tching. they got a game they weren't going to get and its playable. get over yourselves. dark souls sucks anywaysparkurtommo
It's actually not playable basically with kb/m.

................. And? This was pretty clear before release that this would be the case.. Nothing is stopping one from purchasing a $20 controller to play the game.. As a pc gamer I find this a pretty weak complaint, especially when there are games out there on the PC that the mouse and keyboard are certainly not the first choices to be using..
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#310 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

Hemits love to brag about mods and the ability to use a gamepad, but when a game arrives that actually requires those, they cry their eyes out ...

Moriarity_
It's great to have the option. It sucks when the game is virtually unplayable unless you use a gamepad. The game should be playable with kb/m when that is the primary control scheme used on pc. I would rather From didn't bother porting the game rather than doing a halfassed job of it.

Then you're alone on this. I would rather have more games, even if I have to use a 360 controller than not have the game at all on PC.
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#311 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Ah, yes, because expecting the game to run properly on your platform is too much to ask for. :roll:Advid-Gamer

how dare they ask for quality, pc gamers should thank w/e lazy port that has problems even a modder fixed easily

damn people asking for decent products, who do they think they are.

The problem is that the game is fixed now. The mod was out on release day the game looks and plays great. Yet you people are still crying.You guys asked for a console only game to be ported and now cry that it plays better with a controller?

how many people signed the petition? how many pc gamers are out there? how many people are complaining about this? you're making it seem like the answer to all three questions is the same number. do you not think you're stereotyping here?

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#312 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

how dare they ask for quality, pc gamers should thank w/e lazy port that has problems even a modder fixed easily

damn people asking for decent products, who do they think they are.

CaseyWegner

The problem is that the game is fixed now. The mod was out on release day the game looks and plays great. Yet you people are still crying.You guys asked for a console only game to be ported and now cry that it plays better with a controller?

how many people signed the petition? how many pc gamers are out there? how many people are complaining about this? you're making it seem like the answer to all three questions is the same number. do you not think you're stereotyping here?

.......... And I would like to know how a petition some how equates to begging? The developers are not doing this out of the kindness of their hearts, they saw a profit opportunity and took it.. When you pay money for a product, you expect it to have certain standards comparable to other products.. If it doesn't why shouldn't it be criticized?

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#313 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="Moriarity_"][QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

Hemits love to brag about mods and the ability to use a gamepad, but when a game arrives that actually requires those, they cry their eyes out ...

DragonfireXZ95
It's great to have the option. It sucks when the game is virtually unplayable unless you use a gamepad. The game should be playable with kb/m when that is the primary control scheme used on pc. I would rather From didn't bother porting the game rather than doing a halfassed job of it.

Then you're alone on this. I would rather have more games, even if I have to use a 360 controller than not have the game at all on PC.

I would like to know how any one can enjoy things like racing games on a mouse and keyboard.. Mouse and Keyboard is not the holy trinity of gaming tools, there are certain genres that just do not go well with it..
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#314 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

how dare they ask for quality, pc gamers should thank w/e lazy port that has problems even a modder fixed easily

damn people asking for decent products, who do they think they are.

CaseyWegner

The problem is that the game is fixed now. The mod was out on release day the game looks and plays great. Yet you people are still crying.You guys asked for a console only game to be ported and now cry that it plays better with a controller?

how many people signed the petition? how many pc gamers are out there? how many people are complaining about this? you're making it seem like the answer to all three questions is the same number. do you not think you're stereotyping here?

I was really referring to the people here on this forum complaing , If it dosent pertain to you I wasnt talking about you. I am a pc gamer myself and dont feel the way alot of people do here, so I know its not all pc gamers, since the only people reading this are here, I was referring to people from here.
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#315 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Moriarity_"] It's great to have the option. It sucks when the game is virtually unplayable unless you use a gamepad. The game should be playable with kb/m when that is the primary control scheme used on pc. I would rather From didn't bother porting the game rather than doing a halfassed job of it.sSubZerOo
Then you're alone on this. I would rather have more games, even if I have to use a 360 controller than not have the game at all on PC.

I would like to know how any one can enjoy things like racing games on a mouse and keyboard.. Mouse and Keyboard is not the holy trinity of gaming tools, there are certain genres that just do not go well with it..

But Dark Souls is not a racing game, it's a 3rd person action rpg that is entirely capable of a great kb&m setup. Unfortunately it was just poorly executed by them, particularly the mouse.

Now, I'm certainly not against using a controller. Using one and enjoying it on my current play through. But I, along with others, cant help but to be severely disappointed with how the mouse controls turned out. Along with having all xbox input icons popping up instead of keyboard keys and mouse button icons no matter if you have a controller plugged in or not, which is rather weak. Sure we may have seen it coming, from the some of the articles and previews of it, but "minimal kb&m support" isnt all specific of a statement.

Look forward to hopeful mods, if not a patch to improve it all.

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#316 GhoX
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[QUOTE="Peredith"]How do you get the HUD to disappear for the screenshots?BPoole96
In the options menu.
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#317 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Then you're alone on this. I would rather have more games, even if I have to use a 360 controller than not have the game at all on PC.kidcool189

I would like to know how any one can enjoy things like racing games on a mouse and keyboard.. Mouse and Keyboard is not the holy trinity of gaming tools, there are certain genres that just do not go well with it..

But Dark Souls is not a racing game, it's a 3rd person action rpg that is entirely capable of a great kb&m setup. Unfortunately it was just poorly executed by them, particularly the mouse.

Now, I'm certainly not against using a controller. Using one and enjoying it on my current play through. But I, along with others, cant help but to be severely disappointed with how the mouse controls turned out. Along with having all xbox input icons popping up instead of keyboard keys and mouse button icons no matter if you have a controller plugged in or not, which is rather weak. Sure we may have seen it coming, from the some of the articles and previews of it, but "minimal kb&m support" isnt all specific of a statement.

Look forward to hopeful mods, if not a patch to improve it all.

.......Great keyboard set up like Assassin's Creed games which almost the exact same controller mechanics? I am sorry but there is no real precise free aiming in there.. ITs all based around locking on.. So no I disagree with you there.. When you have a lock mechanic, one of the biggest benefits of the mouse is unneeded..

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#318 GhoX
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I took some shots at 2560x1440: http://s990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/GhoXen/Dark%20Souls/ FRAPS somehow lowered the quality of the shots a bit, but the general idea should still remain. Also since I was using post-processing AA (i.e. FXAA), the jaggies only appear in screenshots and not in-game.
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#319 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] I would like to know how any one can enjoy things like racing games on a mouse and keyboard.. Mouse and Keyboard is not the holy trinity of gaming tools, there are certain genres that just do not go well with it.. sSubZerOo

But Dark Souls is not a racing game, it's a 3rd person action rpg that is entirely capable of a great kb&m setup. Unfortunately it was just poorly executed by them, particularly the mouse.

Now, I'm certainly not against using a controller. Using one and enjoying it on my current play through. But I, along with others, cant help but to be severely disappointed with how the mouse controls turned out. Along with having all xbox input icons popping up instead of keyboard keys and mouse button icons no matter if you have a controller plugged in or not, which is rather weak. Sure we may have seen it coming, from the some of the articles and previews of it, but "minimal kb&m support" isnt all specific of a statement.

Look forward to hopeful mods, if not a patch to improve it all.

.......Great keyboard set up like Assassin's Creed games which almost the exact same controller mechanics? I am sorry but there is no real precise free aiming in there.. ITs all based around locking on.. So no I disagree with you there.. When you have a lock mechanic, one of the biggest benefits of the mouse is unneeded..

It's not necessarily all about gaing some kind of advantage, its about the enjoyment and comfort many have the the kb&m for gaming in general. And since obviously it is the default control scheme for pc. I also like to fight most of the lower-mid tier enemies of the areas free aim.
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#320 parkurtommo
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If it dosent pertain to you I wasnt talking about you. Advid-Gamer
You repeatedly said "you". So uhh...
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#321 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="GhoX"]I took some shots at 2560x1440: http://s990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/GhoXen/Dark%20Souls/ FRAPS somehow lowered the quality of the shots a bit, but the general idea should still remain. Also since I was using post-processing AA (i.e. FXAA), the jaggies only appear in screenshots and not in-game.

Man that looks fantastic!!
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#322 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] If it dosent pertain to you I wasnt talking about you. parkurtommo
You repeatedly said "you". So uhh...

And? If you are a whiny ass that's cant install a simple mod, and are to good for a controller I was talking about you. If not, don't get offended it's not about you, what's so hard to get about that? So huh...........
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="GhoX"]I took some shots at 2560x1440: http://s990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/GhoXen/Dark%20Souls/ FRAPS somehow lowered the quality of the shots a bit, but the general idea should still remain. Also since I was using post-processing AA (i.e. FXAA), the jaggies only appear in screenshots and not in-game.

Man that looks fantastic!!

How much has ghox played. It took me about 4 months to reach anor londo :P Nice shots though man .
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#324 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] The problem is that the game is fixed now. The mod was out on release day the game looks and plays great. Yet you people are still crying.You guys asked for a console only game to be ported and now cry that it plays better with a controller?

Advid-Gamer

how many people signed the petition? how many pc gamers are out there? how many people are complaining about this? you're making it seem like the answer to all three questions is the same number. do you not think you're stereotyping here?

I was really referring to the people here on this forum complaing , If it dosent pertain to you I wasnt talking about you. I am a pc gamer myself and dont feel the way alot of people do here, so I know its not all pc gamers, since the only people reading this are here, I was referring to people from here.

and you think they signed the petition?

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#325 RyviusARC
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I recorded the beginning of the game using the resolution and dof fix.

If you want to see some footage of it in some of the highest quality YouTube has to offer then here is a link.

Make sure to put the video in "Original" mode for the best quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTAlZLXAS_s

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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="GhoX"]I took some shots at 2560x1440: http://s990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/GhoXen/Dark%20Souls/ FRAPS somehow lowered the quality of the shots a bit, but the general idea should still remain. Also since I was using post-processing AA (i.e. FXAA), the jaggies only appear in screenshots and not in-game.Animal-Mother
Man that looks fantastic!!

How much has ghox played. It took me about 4 months to reach anor londo :P Nice shots though man .

It's not my first time playing the game, and so far I've killed two out of the four story bosses. I believe there are plenty of people ahead of me already.

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#327 rjdofu
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WTF?
It's been fixed like few days now & people still rage over it?

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#328 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="Peredith"]

Damn, alot of jelly console peasants itt. PC be taken their games, fixing them, and making em' better :D Don't worry cows and lems, next gen you might get your HD edition that doesn't run at 8fps. :lol:

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Advid-Gamer

Yea darksouls looks amazing with the mod, I donated money to the mod maker, he deserves it. Hard to believe all those textures were hidden under all that blur.

This is one thing we can finally agree on. The mod maker is amazing and deserves some donations, amazing work.

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#329 ChubbyGuy40
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WTF?
It's been fixed like few days now & people still rage over it?

rjdofu

So? Just because there's a mod for it, it does not excuse the developers for being so lazy.

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#330 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

WTF?
It's been fixed like few days now & people still rage over it?

ChubbyGuy40

So? Just because there's a mod for it, it does not excuse the developers for being so lazy.

They are lazy, so what? What are you gonna do? It's fixed, and you can play the game as how it should be played, and it's a damn awesome game. Everything is done, and people still cry & whine. The amount of self entitlement here is disgusting.
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#331 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="GhoX"]I took some shots at 2560x1440: http://s990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/GhoXen/Dark%20Souls/ FRAPS somehow lowered the quality of the shots a bit, but the general idea should still remain. Also since I was using post-processing AA (i.e. FXAA), the jaggies only appear in screenshots and not in-game.

Man that looks fantastic!!

How much has ghox played. It took me about 4 months to reach anor londo :P Nice shots though man .

4 months :shock: Took me like a week :p
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#332 agpickle
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Few of my screens. Loving this game.

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#333 rzepak
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

WTF?
It's been fixed like few days now & people still rage over it?

rjdofu

So? Just because there's a mod for it, it does not excuse the developers for being so lazy.

They are lazy, so what? What are you gonna do? It's fixed, and you can play the game as how it should be played, and it's a damn awesome game. Everything is done, and people still cry & whine. The amount of self entitlement here is disgusting.

You have no idea what "self entitlement" or even "entitlement" is, never use the word again.

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#334 skrat_01
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From what I've read despite the resolution issues, it with the mod/patch improves the game dramatically. Otherwise it's just fine.
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#335 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"] Man that looks fantastic!!GhoX

How much has ghox played. It took me about 4 months to reach anor londo :P Nice shots though man .

It's not my first time playing the game, and so far I've killed two out of the four story bosses. I believe there are plenty of people ahead of me already.

I started a new character in march and played for about a week before putting it down again till last week. The games great and it's not that i'm bad at it, it's just that I have a lot of trouble with bosses. and upgrading and so on. So I made some really big strides yesterday. Any tips?
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#336 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

So? Just because there's a mod for it, it does not excuse the developers for being so lazy.

rzepak

They are lazy, so what? What are you gonna do? It's fixed, and you can play the game as how it should be played, and it's a damn awesome game. Everything is done, and people still cry & whine. The amount of self entitlement here is disgusting.

You have no idea what "self entitlement" or even "entitlement" is, never use the word again.

It means a person thinks he deserves something/benefit based on their standard without concerning other people welfare, isn't it? If not, enlighten me then, I'm not an English speaker.

Demanding any PC port to be 1080p @ 60 fps is, IMO, entitlement. Keep whining even after getting the best version of the game is, IMO, entitlement.

From Software terrible @ making PC port is nothing new (Ninja Blade ring a bell?). They even warn about it before hand, so you don't have to buy it if it's fail to meet your expectation. When it's a sh!tty port, it's still a good game, it functions alright, that's the end of the deal. It's fixed within hour after release. Now you have an excellent quality game. But no, lets keep trashing the dev on how terrible they're and how their product doesn't meet one standard despite being warned before hand.

I, on the other hand, just glad that the game's fixed. How about getting the mod & enjoy the game?

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#337 CaseyWegner
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WTF?
It's been fixed like few days now & people still rage over it?

rjdofu

who's raging? and you seem to think that resolution was the only problem with the port. control issues?

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#338 indzman
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Can you guys join, play co op, pvp together on PC version easily? PLEASE SUGGEST,IMPORTANT

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#339 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="rzepak"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"] They are lazy, so what? What are you gonna do? It's fixed, and you can play the game as how it should be played, and it's a damn awesome game. Everything is done, and people still cry & whine. The amount of self entitlement here is disgusting. rjdofu

You have no idea what "self entitlement" or even "entitlement" is, never use the word again.

It means a person thinks he deserves something/benefit based on their standard without concerning other people welfare, isn't it? If not, enlighten me then, I'm not an English speaker.

Demanding any PC port to be 1080p @ 60 fps is, IMO, entitlement. Keep whining even after getting the best version of the game is, IMO, entitlement.

From Software terrible @ making PC port is nothing new (Ninja Blade ring a bell?). They even warn about it before hand, so you don't have to buy it if it's fail to meet your expectation. When it's a sh!tty port, it's still a good game, it functions alright, that's the end of the deal. It's fixed within hour after release. Now you have an excellent quality game. But no, lets keep trashing the dev on how terrible they're and how their product doesn't meet one standard despite being warned before hand.

I, on the other hand, just glad that the game's fixed. How about getting the mod & enjoy the game?

thinking that your standard controller should work properly with a game you buy (weren't gifted) is an example of entitlement?

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#340 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Can you guys join, play co op, pvp together on PC version easily? PLEASE SUGGEST,IMPORTANT

indzman

I've had no problems with the online so far.

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#341 indzman
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[QUOTE="indzman"]

Can you guys join, play co op, pvp together on PC version easily? PLEASE SUGGEST,IMPORTANT

toast_burner

I've had no problems with the online so far.

sweet :)

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#342 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

You have no idea what "self entitlement" or even "entitlement" is, never use the word again.

CaseyWegner

It means a person thinks he deserves something/benefit based on their standard without concerning other people welfare, isn't it? If not, enlighten me then, I'm not an English speaker.

Demanding any PC port to be 1080p @ 60 fps is, IMO, entitlement. Keep whining even after getting the best version of the game is, IMO, entitlement.

From Software terrible @ making PC port is nothing new (Ninja Blade ring a bell?). They even warn about it before hand, so you don't have to buy it if it's fail to meet your expectation. When it's a sh!tty port, it's still a good game, it functions alright, that's the end of the deal. It's fixed within hour after release. Now you have an excellent quality game. But no, lets keep trashing the dev on how terrible they're and how their product doesn't meet one standard despite being warned before hand.

I, on the other hand, just glad that the game's fixed. How about getting the mod & enjoy the game?

thinking that your standard controller should work properly with a game you buy (weren't gifted) is an example of entitlement?

What standard controller are you talking about? For this game, the standard controller is the xbox360 controller. The game was designed for console. They even mentioned it in the manual: http://cdn.steampowered.com/Manuals/211420/DARKSOULS_PC_MANUAL_ANZ.pdf Page 7: "Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition was created to play using the Xbox 360® controller." I'm well aware that kb/m control for this game is nearly unplayable, and they've done a bad job @ binding key & mouselook (hopefully a fix in the future). However, people should control the game as how it's meant to be controlled, just like no one plays DMC with kb/m.
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#343 rzepak
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[QUOTE="rzepak"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"] They are lazy, so what? What are you gonna do? It's fixed, and you can play the game as how it should be played, and it's a damn awesome game. Everything is done, and people still cry & whine. The amount of self entitlement here is disgusting. rjdofu

You have no idea what "self entitlement" or even "entitlement" is, never use the word again.

It means a person thinks he deserves something/benefit based on their standard without concerning other people welfare, isn't it? If not, enlighten me then, I'm not an English speaker.

Demanding any PC port to be 1080p @ 60 fps is, IMO, entitlement. Keep whining even after getting the best version of the game is, IMO, entitlement.

From Software terrible @ making PC port is nothing new (Ninja Blade ring a bell?). They even warn about it before hand, so you don't have to buy it if it's fail to meet your expectation. When it's a sh!tty port, it's still a good game, it functions alright, that's the end of the deal. It's fixed within hour after release. Now you have an excellent quality game. But no, lets keep trashing the dev on how terrible they're and how their product doesn't meet one standard despite being warned before hand.

I, on the other hand, just glad that the game's fixed. How about getting the mod & enjoy the game?

When you pay for a game you have every right in the world to expect it to adhere to the set standard of the system, it is not entitlement for you to expect it to. It does not matter which system. Wii, 360, PS3, PC, GB, PSP all have their own standards and features that should be supported by a game released on the platform. A game released on Wii should utilise the motion controls, if it does not you have the right to criticise and ask why its not. A person buying a game on PS3 can or even should expect sixaxis functionality. Do you remember the outcry when the first PS3 pads did not have rumble? That was because Sony took away a feature that was part of the system. If a movie is released on Blu-ray but looks like a dvd, the customer who bought it has every right to scream bloody murder because the product he bought is not up to the standard set by the format.

The standard controller for PC is the keyboard and mouse. That means the game should have kb/m controls that are atleast servicable. Its understandable that a game that was made with a gamepad in mind will work better with a pad, but that does not mean kb/m can be half assed. I have played fighting games that worked with kb/m just fine, was it better than with a pad? Ofcourse not, but PCs are about choice. The current kb/m controls in Dark Souls are simply nonsensical. There are a thousand better ways to set them up, not only that but the menus were not changed at all to make it work better with kb/m.

Another set standard for PC games is a multitude of options when it comes to graphics. Its been that way for years. If someones PC is weaker than standard then he should be able to turn down some options. If someone has a rig he should be able to max the thing.

Mods do not exist to allow devs to half ass their job. Its great that there is the resolution fix, but what it shows is that it was not that hard to make the game just a bit better. Its not entitlement to expect a developer, who you are paying, to do the job well. FromSoftwore ported the game to make money. If they were not expecting to make money, no petition would get them to port the thing. Having no experiance with PC ports is no excuse. Both Demon Souls and Dark Souls had pretty small budgets and huge sales. They have money. FromSoftware is not a one man indie dev team. Theyre published by Namco Bandai.

Finally to end my little rant...people need to stop acting as if developers were children that need protection. If you feel some sort of motherly instinct kicking in then find yourself someone and have kids. A game development studio is a buisness, it is not a child.

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#344 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"] It means a person thinks he deserves something/benefit based on their standard without concerning other people welfare, isn't it? If not, enlighten me then, I'm not an English speaker.

Demanding any PC port to be 1080p @ 60 fps is, IMO, entitlement. Keep whining even after getting the best version of the game is, IMO, entitlement.

From Software terrible @ making PC port is nothing new (Ninja Blade ring a bell?). They even warn about it before hand, so you don't have to buy it if it's fail to meet your expectation. When it's a sh!tty port, it's still a good game, it functions alright, that's the end of the deal. It's fixed within hour after release. Now you have an excellent quality game. But no, lets keep trashing the dev on how terrible they're and how their product doesn't meet one standard despite being warned before hand.

I, on the other hand, just glad that the game's fixed. How about getting the mod & enjoy the game?

rjdofu

thinking that your standard controller should work properly with a game you buy (weren't gifted) is an example of entitlement?

What standard controller are you talking about? For this game, the standard controller is the xbox360 controller. The game was designed for console. They even mentioned it in the manual: http://cdn.steampowered.com/Manuals/211420/DARKSOULS_PC_MANUAL_ANZ.pdf Page 7: "Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition was created to play using the Xbox 360® controller." I'm well aware that kb/m control for this game is nearly unplayable, and they've done a bad job @ binding key & mouselook (hopefully a fix in the future). However, people should control the game as how it's meant to be controlled, just like no one plays DMC with kb/m.

i'm referring to the standard controller for the pc. it's not a 360 gamepad. does it say "created to play using the 360 controller" on the game box or just in the manual? steam has no mention of it.

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It just wasnt meant for the PC. Its a console game, maybe if PCs had the same powerful hardware as the consoles it would run a little better but I doubt it.
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#346 CaseyWegner
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It just wasnt meant for the PC. Its a console game, maybe if PCs had the same powerful hardware as the consoles it would run a little better but I doubt it.EzcapeTheFate

runs better than consoles already. did you not read the review?

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#347 EzcapeTheFate
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[QUOTE="EzcapeTheFate"]It just wasnt meant for the PC. Its a console game, maybe if PCs had the same powerful hardware as the consoles it would run a little better but I doubt it.CaseyWegner

runs better than consoles already. did you not read the review?

Nope
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#348 rzepak
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[QUOTE="EzcapeTheFate"]It just wasnt meant for the PC. Its a console game, maybe if PCs had the same powerful hardware as the consoles it would run a little better but I doubt it.CaseyWegner

runs better than consoles already. did you not read the review?

Psssst he's a troll.

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#349 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="EzcapeTheFate"]It just wasnt meant for the PC. Its a console game, maybe if PCs had the same powerful hardware as the consoles it would run a little better but I doubt it.EzcapeTheFate

runs better than consoles already. did you not read the review?

Nope

okay then.

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#350 kozzy1234
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Its a great game with a piss poor lazy port, THANKFULLY though we have a wonderful modder in the pc community that has released some great stuff.

The game is now recomendable to friends, if they have a controller of course, the K+M controls are still bad.

It really is amazing what a good modder can do, simply amazing.

I remember this happening with Gothic3, it was released in a bad state, a really bad state, but when mods where released it became a very good game.