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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Re5 shows how a game series can completely abandon it roots in order to sell more :(EyezonmiiYeh, Capcom should crumble sales-wise to just please the minor few hardcore fans? the Surival Horror genre isn't a popular one any more, the old RE formula is broken and just doesn't work for todays standards. The change was needed, unless you wanted RE to continue to get low sales and bas scored....Capcom like any other company need to make money of there product. Minor hardcore fanbase:| :lol:
Keep telling yourself its alright to butcher a series in order to sell more units :roll:
[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="ECIRA1876"]Here goes your political correctness TC.And I am talking about the fact I do not get to shoot only porch monkeys.
Whats your point?
ECIRA1876
And here is why the game doesn't have blacks only.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2DxyAGzGxM
You're assuming that I thought it was racist, which the term you used is, which is why you felt guilty enough to post a link.using race to categorize people is racist.swazidoughmanis using gender to categorize people sexist? hardly. you can look at issues of race without creating a racist scenario (supposing one is better than the other). they're mutually exclusive issues. celebrate diversity. don't try to melt us into one pot of goo. we like our heritage and diversity. it adds uniqueness.
[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Re5 shows how a game series can completely abandon it roots in order to sell more :(ECIRA1876
Who cares? The issue here is that instead of just getting to shoot down the black beast we have to waste bullets on Asians and the occasional white person.
This is a travesty of epic proportions. I am going to have to run around avoiding all the white people and pretend they are only attacking me because they caught jungle fever from living next to a bunch of black people.
:lol: You crack me up,----------------------
What annoyed me more about the complaining is if it was any other race you'd not hear a word. Black people though? Oh hell sound the alarms.
Nothing againt skin colour, I just get annoyed at how certain individuals act as if the world owes them someting all because my great great great (am i in the right ball park? give or take a great? :P) grandfather decided to enslave theres. You can ride a bus and not have your own special seating area can't you? So get over it, we're all equal now stop crying and acting so morally outraged when i don't pretend to care about your skin colour.
Anywho it depends what area of Africa there in, run down crap holes in the middle of no where? Doubt you'll find white people there, definitly wont see any asians or italians. :lol:[QUOTE="ECIRA1876"][QUOTE="Fire-of-Njozi"] he's not saying the addition of other colors is what hurts the game... he's talking about gameplay. :|Synthetic_NinJI
And I am talking about the fact I do not get to shoot only porch monkeys.
Whats your point?
Here goes your political correctness TC.And here is why the game doesn't have blacks only.
That's not the TC. That's a troll.
Yeh, Capcom should crumble sales-wise to just please the minor few hardcore fans? the Surival Horror genre isn't a popular one any more, the old RE formula is broken and just doesn't work for todays standards. The change was needed, unless you wanted RE to continue to get low sales and bas scored....Capcom like any other company need to make money of there product. Minor hardcore fanbase:| :lol:[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Re5 shows how a game series can completely abandon it roots in order to sell more :(Gh0st_Of_0nyx
Keep telling yourself its alright to butcher a series in order to sell more units :roll:
Except it's not butchered. RE4 was hte most popilar out of the series as far as i know. It made the most money and was the most popular. Why would capcom give a monkey about you wanting the old, broken version back? Move with the times, game series doesn;t change and you call it a copy and paste, re2.0 they completely rework it and you cry anyway.
You wouldn't be happy no matter what they did so why try.
[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="ECIRA1876"]Here goes your political correctness TC.And I am talking about the fact I do not get to shoot only porch monkeys.
Whats your point?
cheezisgoooood
And here is why the game doesn't have blacks only.
That's not the TC. That's a troll.
I was addressing the TCThat's not the TC. That's a troll.cheezisgooooodhe's not saying it's the TC. he's directing the TC to read that post and gain some perspective.
[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Re5 shows how a game series can completely abandon it roots in order to sell more :(EyezonmiiYeh, Capcom should crumble sales-wise to just please the minor few hardcore fans? the Surival Horror genre isn't a popular one any more, the old RE formula is broken and just doesn't work for todays standards. The change was needed, unless you wanted RE to continue to get low sales and bas scored....Capcom like any other company need to make money of there product. But you said RE5 was survival horror? :shock:
[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Re5 shows how a game series can completely abandon it roots in order to sell more :(Aljosa23Yeh, Capcom should crumble sales-wise to just please the minor few hardcore fans? the Surival Horror genre isn't a popular one any more, the old RE formula is broken and just doesn't work for todays standards. The change was needed, unless you wanted RE to continue to get low sales and bas scored....Capcom like any other company need to make money of there product. But you said RE5 was survival horror? :shock: Capcom officially stated the game has become action, and isn't survival horror any more. But even with that i still see the game as one, IMO. People seem to compare RE with Silent Hill to much, RE IMO was never the survival horror people claim it is. But whatever.
[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Re5 shows how a game series can completely abandon it roots in order to sell more :(kage_53They already abandoned it with RE4. Changing up the gameplay was just a new way for Capcom to milk the series even more. The old Resident Evil formula was getting stale. Didn't you have enough of it? I commend Capcom for taking the series in a new direction. The old Resident Evil games are dead. All I can is, "Good riddance!" No way in hell can I ever get through one of those games again...
[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]I didnt kill any white people in re5 only Africans and Muslims, I dont know what your talking about ECIRA1876
Really? that is great news.
I am really looking forward to running around as Chris "Aryan Barbarian" Redfield and slaughtering the black hordes.
Ah that's sweet, you must have loved killing all the Spanish in RE4. Heck in most games you kill white people, gaming industry hates white people am confirmed :P[QUOTE="kage_53"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Re5 shows how a game series can completely abandon it roots in order to sell more :(DeathScape666They already abandoned it with RE4. Changing up the gameplay was just a new way for Capcom to milk the series even more. The old Resident Evil formula was getting stale. Didn't you have enough of it? I commend Capcom for taking the series in a new direction. The old Resident Evil games are dead. All I can is, "Good riddance!" No way in hell can I ever get through one of those games again... exactly, its nothing to do with milking the series, it was simply THAT BAD for todays standards, RE remake flopped in sales and RE0 didn't do that good either, Capcom needed to make a change and it did it for the better, hence the praise and scores RE4 got.
[QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"][QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"] Here goes your political correctness TC.And here is why the game doesn't have blacks only.
Synthetic_NinJI
That's not the TC. That's a troll.
I was addressing the TCPeople who are racist are always looking for an excuse to be racist, like this loon in here. Resident Evil 5 in its original form would not have changed anyones perception anymore than RE4 did of spaniards.
[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"]I was addressing the TCThat's not the TC. That's a troll.
crazymaghie123
People who are racist are always looking for an excuse to be racist, like this loon in here. Resident Evil 5 in its original form would not have changed anyones perception anymore than RE4 did of spaniards.
You are going off of assumption so I am to disagree with you and assume that it would.well ECIRA, I won't be crying any tears, because I'm simply not emotionally invested in your racist remarks. I just hope you know we neither stand for nor tolerate such commentary from anyone. I'm sure your mess will be cleaned up soon enough. as for Resident Evil, people should worry less about who is who. The demo I played had plenty of people of color. If not having 100% chocolate faces to shoot at will stay your hand at the moment of truth (in the videogame store, deciding against buying the game), you will not be missed by the RE community. Fire-of-Njozi
While I deplore bigots and I am glad his comments were deleted, I must say you take yourself WAY to seriously. You honestly think you speak for everyone here or the "community"? grow up :lol:.
People on the extreme of either side irk me.
Anyways back on topic, I am somewhat sad this thred even exist. I do not think it is going to be an issue at all, most people in the demo appear to be at least somewhat dark skinned and fit in with an Africa setting.
[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]using race to categorize people is racist.Fire-of-Njoziis using gender to categorize people sexist? hardly. you can look at issues of race without creating a racist scenario (supposing one is better than the other). they're mutually exclusive issues. celebrate diversity. don't try to melt us into one pot of goo. we like our heritage and diversity. it adds uniqueness.
I would totally respond with something, but I dont want to derail.
[QUOTE="crazymaghie123"][QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"] I was addressing the TCSynthetic_NinJI
People who are racist are always looking for an excuse to be racist, like this loon in here. Resident Evil 5 in its original form would not have changed anyones perception anymore than RE4 did of spaniards.
You are going off of assumption so I am to disagree with you and assume that it would.Its not fair to say that a game with crazy white spaniards trying to attack you is going to change your assumption less than a game with crazy black african people in it. The only reason it would be more severe either way is because you are racist yourself.
[QUOTE="Fire-of-Njozi"]well ECIRA, I won't be crying any tears, because I'm simply not emotionally invested in your racist remarks. I just hope you know we neither stand for nor tolerate such commentary from anyone. I'm sure your mess will be cleaned up soon enough. as for Resident Evil, people should worry less about who is who. The demo I played had plenty of people of color. If not having 100% chocolate faces to shoot at will stay your hand at the moment of truth (in the videogame store, deciding against buying the game), you will not be missed by the RE community. Lewisite
While I deplore bigots and I am glad his comments were deleted, I must say you take yourself WAY to seriously. You honestly think you speak for everyone here or the "community"? grow up :lol:.
People on the extreme of either side irk me.
Anyways back on topic, I am somewhat sad this thred even exist. I do not think it is going to be an issue at all, most people in the demo appear to be at least somewhat dark skinned and fit in with an Africa setting.
speak for yourself. I can't think of anyone that wants bigots and racists around posting. if you do, I'm sure there is another website somewhere that will accomidate you. But I can't think of any. Not any respectable sites. sorry if that reality bothers you.[QUOTE="Lewisite"][QUOTE="Fire-of-Njozi"]well ECIRA, I won't be crying any tears, because I'm simply not emotionally invested in your racist remarks. I just hope you know we neither stand for nor tolerate such commentary from anyone. I'm sure your mess will be cleaned up soon enough. as for Resident Evil, people should worry less about who is who. The demo I played had plenty of people of color. If not having 100% chocolate faces to shoot at will stay your hand at the moment of truth (in the videogame store, deciding against buying the game), you will not be missed by the RE community. Fire-of-Njozi
While I deplore bigots and I am glad his comments were deleted, I must say you take yourself WAY to seriously. You honestly think you speak for everyone here or the "community"? grow up :lol:.
People on the extreme of either side irk me.
Anyways back on topic, I am somewhat sad this thred even exist. I do not think it is going to be an issue at all, most people in the demo appear to be at least somewhat dark skinned and fit in with an Africa setting.
speak for yourself. I can't think of anyone that wants bigots and racists around posting. if you do, I'm sure there is another website somewhere that will accomidate you. But I can't think of any. Not any respectable sites. sorry if that reality bothers you.Well I do not want them openly posting hate speech but I do not care if they are bigots, everyone has a right to believe what ever they want. So long as they do not try to force it on anyone else.. Sorry if reality bothers you but racist exist in large numbers and always will. The world is a diverse place for better or worse.
Once again, get over yourself. The world cannot always be your perfect little vision buttercup.
If all you are saying is you wish for them to not post hate speech, that I can agree with. This is a gaming forum afterall and there is really no need for that.
[QUOTE="Fire-of-Njozi"][QUOTE="Lewisite"]speak for yourself. I can't think of anyone that wants bigots and racists around posting. if you do, I'm sure there is another website somewhere that will accomidate you. But I can't think of any. Not any respectable sites. sorry if that reality bothers you.While I deplore bigots and I am glad his comments were deleted, I must say you take yourself WAY to seriously. You honestly think you speak for everyone here or the "community"? grow up :lol:.
People on the extreme of either side irk me.
Anyways back on topic, I am somewhat sad this thred even exist. I do not think it is going to be an issue at all, most people in the demo appear to be at least somewhat dark skinned and fit in with an Africa setting.
Lewisite
Well I do not want them openly posting hate speech but I do not care if they are bigots. Sorry if reality bothers you but racist exist in large numbers and always will. The world is a diverse place for better or worse.
Once again, get over yourself. The world cannot always be your perfect little vision buttercup.
If all you are saying is you wish for them to not post hate speech, that I can agree with. This is a gaming forum afterall and there is really no need for that.
Lewisite you are wrong, he was a racist, now stop.[QUOTE="Fire-of-Njozi"][QUOTE="Lewisite"]speak for yourself. I can't think of anyone that wants bigots and racists around posting. if you do, I'm sure there is another website somewhere that will accomidate you. But I can't think of any. Not any respectable sites. sorry if that reality bothers you.While I deplore bigots and I am glad his comments were deleted, I must say you take yourself WAY to seriously. You honestly think you speak for everyone here or the "community"? grow up :lol:.
People on the extreme of either side irk me.
Anyways back on topic, I am somewhat sad this thred even exist. I do not think it is going to be an issue at all, most people in the demo appear to be at least somewhat dark skinned and fit in with an Africa setting.
Lewisite
Well I do not want them openly posting hate speech but I do not care if they are bigots. Sorry if reality bothers you but racist exist in large numbers and always will. The world is a diverse place for better or worse.
Once again, get over yourself. The world cannot always be your perfect little vision buttercup.
If all you are saying is you wish for them to not post hate speech, that I can agree with. This is a gaming forum afterall and there is really no need for that.
I don't think we disagree, so I really don't understand your diatribes at this point.In short, you wanted his posts deleted, but had a problem with the fact that I pointed out that you, I and the rest of us didn't feel his comments needed to litter our forum? Having a world full of racists doesn't mean they, therefore, should be afforded a place on our forum. They're not a special interest group that needs a lobbyist to help them get more rights. In reality, my comments simply reflected the reality of the Terms of Service that we all agree to when we sign up. Racism is one of the many things this site does not accept or tolerate from its posters. for any reason. no matter what the reasoning or rationale is.
so again, why are we even having this discussion? and as a grown man, I don't really see a need to "grow up" more. I furthermore don't think requesting people post with respect to their fellow posters makes me less mature than others.
this conversation about RE5 and what people perceive as Capcom's placation to some random blogger in cyberspace can be had without the extra crap. agreed?
[QUOTE="kage_53"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Re5 shows how a game series can completely abandon it roots in order to sell more :(DeathScape666They already abandoned it with RE4. Changing up the gameplay was just a new way for Capcom to milk the series even more. The old Resident Evil formula was getting stale. Didn't you have enough of it? I commend Capcom for taking the series in a new direction. The old Resident Evil games are dead. All I can is, "Good riddance!" No way in hell can I ever get through one of those games again... I'd rather have the old gameplay where I barely had any ammo or herbs to heal myself and having better boss fights. The only thing bad about it was the camera angle and that's it. Not only that bad the series should have ended after Code Veronica. It finished the series from the story perspective. There was nothing more that could be done with it. RE4 has nothing in common with RE aside from Leon and Ada. RE5 is the same thing except its only Chris. Capcom is only putting them back in order for the old RE fanboys such as myself to buy it but I wouldn't. RE4 was created because Capcom ran out of ways to milk the series with the spinoffs.
Also its funny you're complaining about the RE formula while you have a Mario avatar......
The old Resident Evil formula was getting stale. Didn't you have enough of it? I commend Capcom for taking the series in a new direction. The old Resident Evil games are dead. All I can is, "Good riddance!" No way in hell can I ever get through one of those games again... I'd rather have the old gameplay where I barely had any ammo or herbs to heal myself and having better boss fights. The only thing bad about it was the camera angle and that's it. Not only that bad the series should have ended after Code Veronica. It finished the series from the story perspective. There was nothing more that could be done with it. RE4 has nothing in common with RE aside from Leon and Ada. RE5 is the same thing except its only Chris. Capcom is only putting them back in order for the old RE fanboys such as myself to buy it but I wouldn't. RE4 was created because Capcom ran out of ways to milk the series with the spinoffs.[QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="kage_53"] They already abandoned it with RE4. Changing up the gameplay was just a new way for Capcom to milk the series even more.kage_53
Also its funny you're complaining about the RE formula while you have a Mario avatar......
I mus admit...I found myself low on Ammo constantly during this demo. you must be better at RE5 than I.Lewisite you are wrong, he was a racist, now stop.Synthetic_NinJI
And that matters because? He was wrong because he decided to spread his garbage on a gaming forum that has no place for that. He was not wrong because "he was a racist". There is nothing wrong with racist and bigots or anyone else of any belief for that matter posting here. The issue comes when they post offensive material.
That was my entire point all along, I think I misunderstood Njozi in that regard and for that I apologize.
Who the hell cares? so you want to kill just black people? Well your not racist or anything......gsus. EyezonmiiOkay, that is not fair. At all. Political Correctness is a serious problem that undermines the integrity of any profession that gets pressured. Brushing it off only makes it worse to the point of absurdity.
[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"] Lewisite you are wrong, he was a racist, now stop.Lewisite
And that matters because? He was wrong because he decided to spread his garbage on a gaming forum that has no place for that. He was not wrong because "he was a racist". There is nothing wrong with racist and bigots or anyone else of any belief for that matter posting here. The issue comes when they post offensive material.
That was my entire point all along, I think I misunderstood the other guy I was having a convo with and for that I apologize.
of course, I do not disagree with your point there. but...nobody said racists aren't allowed to exist. only that they can keep their racist remarks to themselves or find somewhere else to post. that's all my post really said. Everything else was all your conjecture and misinterpretation of my post. you took off on a tangent and arguing a point nobody else was engaging. glad we're all on the same page now, though. party on.[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]Who the hell cares? so you want to kill just black people? Well your not racist or anything......gsus. Pariah_001Okay, that is not fair. At all. Political Correctness is a serious problem that undermines the integrity of any profession that gets pressured. Brushing it off only makes it worse to the point of absurdity. sometimes. a lot of the time. but not all the time. I think a lot of times, that anti-political correctness crowd misses the importance of it. unable to see the gains for being focused like a laser on the drawbacks.
sometimes. a lot of the time. but not all the time. I think a lot of times, that anti-political correctness crowd misses the importance of it. unable to see the gains for being focused like a laser on the drawbacks. Fire-of-NjoziNo. Not sometimes. All the times. There is no importance to political correctness. It's just a way to threaten and fear-monger people into doing what you want them to.
[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]There's white people in Africa you knowps3_owns_360Wii
when the first trailer went up and running, lots of people thought it was racist and such, but in crackdown its alright for a black to kill chinese, whites but its oppsite when a white is killing blacks its wrong.:|
Coming from a black, I know what you mean... I see tons of racism against non-ethnic people. But it's the same for men vs women and women vs men.[QUOTE="Fire-of-Njozi"]sometimes. a lot of the time. but not all the time. I think a lot of times, that anti-political correctness crowd misses the importance of it. unable to see the gains for being focused like a laser on the drawbacks. Pariah_001No. Not sometimes. All the times. There is no importance to political correctness. It's just a way to threaten and fear-monger people into doing what you want them to. then we can agree to disagree. I've found it has an important role to play. Then again, people these days don't understand the power their words carry. Young people in particular.
[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"] Lewisite you are wrong, he was a racist, now stop.Lewisite
And that matters because? He was wrong because he decided to spread his garbage on a gaming forum that has no place for that. He was not wrong because "he was a racist". There is nothing wrong with racist and bigots or anyone else of any belief for that matter posting here. The issue comes when they post offensive material.
That was my entire point all along, I think I misunderstood Njozi in that regard and for that I apologize.
He is wrong because he is violating ToS. Now stop.then we can agree to disagree. I've found it has an important role to play. Then again, people these days don't understand the power their words carry. Young people in particular.Fire-of-Njozi
Words don't carry power beyond what people intuit them to. Reactionary attitudes are not practical and shouldn't be encouraged. They only have a tendency to inspire victimology (see also: Shartpon, Jackson).
And if anything, it's the senior crowd that's most fed up with PC. Not the youngsters.
[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"][QUOTE="Parasomniac"]There's white people in Africa you knowfluxorator
when the first trailer went up and running, lots of people thought it was racist and such, but in crackdown its alright for a black to kill chinese, whites but its oppsite when a white is killing blacks its wrong.:|
Coming from a black, I know what you mean... I see tons of racism against non-ethnic people. really? name the games. as for Crackdown...it's almost as if Parasomanic has never played the game. You can start the game with one of several characters. all of varying races and ethnicities. you're not locked into playing with a "black dude" like say...GTA: San Andreas. Parasomanic, you should probably play the game before commenting on what you see as unfairness. flux, you should probably play the games too, before agreeing with a non-existent point. personally, I can only think of a handful of games that even have people of color (who are not asian) in them. and most of the games I'm thinking of are fighters or sports titles, which I don't even know if they count. so yea. I'm looking forward to seeing your list of games purportrating racism on whites (non-ethnic people).[QUOTE="Fire-of-Njozi"]then we can agree to disagree. I've found it has an important role to play. Then again, people these days don't understand the power their words carry. Young people in particular.Pariah_001
Words don't carry power beyond what people intuit them to. Reactionary attitudes are not practical and shouldn't be encouraged. They only have a tendency to inspire victimology (see also: Shartpon, Jackson).
And if anything, it's the senior crowd that's most fed up with PC. Not the youngsters.
again, we can agree to disagree. the truth I've found is that words are powerful, and that the power of life and death are in the tongue. whether you accept that or not doesn't matter to me. your acceptance won't change the fact that I see its power and impact exercised and realized daily. peace.Seeing a guy you would expect on the streets of Mexico City jumping out at you from a bathroom stall somewhere deep in the boonies of Africa *really* takes away from the immersiveness. Sure, there are ethnically varied people in Africa but MOST of them are you know... Africans. It would make sense that the majority were black. But noooo... people cry "racism" against a game trying to be realistic and Capcom can do nothing but prevent silly lawsuits and other fanfare.foxhound_foxwelcome to South Africa.
so. maybe it's not the game that needs to change, but people's perception of the African continent. Food for thought.
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