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South Africa is known for having uncommon ethnic groups. Meaning that it's not representative of the entire continent's average demographic yield.Pariah_001of course, the game takes place in a ficitcious locale.
I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone complain about Chris's side kick. For a supposed native of Africa, she looks an awful lot like a white chick with a sun tan. She's got light skin, very Anglo-Saxon looking facial features, and silky straight hair. If Capcom really wanted us to believe she's supposed to be black, they should have at least given her a darker skin color and a more African-looking haircut.TimstuffAgain, how many of you have been to Africa :| WAIT WAIT WAIT, what does this have to with System Wars ?
I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone complain about Chris's side kick. For a supposed native of Africa, she looks an awful lot like a white chick with a sun tan. She's got light skin, very Anglo-Saxon looking facial features, and silky straight hair. If Capcom really wanted us to believe she's supposed to be black, they should have at least given her a darker skin color and a more African-looking haircut.Timstuffyour post suggests that: 1.) African women don't get perms. 2.) The character is based off of this woman, specifically:
of course, the game takes place in a ficitcious locale. Fire-of-NjoziIn which case, the game's more associated with Africa as a continent. Not Africa as a continent that's known for any kind of diversity.
let's take it to PM if you'd like to discuss it further. this is obviously not the place. alright? good.Fire-of-NjoziThis thread is about the destructive nature of PC. And you were defending it. I see no better place than here.
[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]How dare you call them blacks! They are African Americans (even though they don't live in America). I just love when people refer to every black person as an African American... Actually, I don't. It's annoying as hell.Fire-of-Njozilol, I didn't even notice people calling the people in the game African Americans. where did you see that?
I live in the UK and one time a few years back on a night out, a girl referred to my mate who's black as "African American" in an attempt to be politically correct. We almost pi$$ed ourselves laughing. Too much American TV and not enough common sense!
[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone complain about Chris's side kick. For a supposed native of Africa, she looks an awful lot like a white chick with a sun tan. She's got light skin, very Anglo-Saxon looking facial features, and silky straight hair. If Capcom really wanted us to believe she's supposed to be black, they should have at least given her a darker skin color and a more African-looking haircut.Synthetic_NinJIAgain, how many of you have been to Africa :| WAIT WAIT WAIT, what does this have to with System Wars ? I'm not saying it's unrealistic, I'm saying I'm surprised no-one has complained that Capcom decided to make her look that way rather than being darker and more ethnic looking, since they're already taking shots at the game with racism charges.
[QUOTE="Fire-of-Njozi"]of course, the game takes place in a ficitcious locale. Pariah_001In which case, the game's more associated with Africa as a continent. Not Africa as a continent that's known for any kind of diversity. you contradict yourself. or just fail at sarcasm. here we have already acknowledged that certain countries in Africa are very much known for their diversity. it's neither my fault nor Capcom's fault that your mind defaults to images where nothing but black faces exist. The reality is that such places very much exist and persist...and will only get MORE diverse over time, not less. you're debating at this point just to debate. and that's fine if that's what you want to do, but count me out. Unless South Africa is no longer part of Africa, there is precedent for Capcom's depiction a ficticious locale "somewhere in Africa".
[QUOTE="Fire-of-Njozi"]let's take it to PM if you'd like to discuss it further. this is obviously not the place. alright? good.Pariah_001This thread is about the destructive nature of PC. And you were defending it. I see no better place than here. No, this thread is about Resident Evil 5. If it were purely about the nature of political correctness, it would be closed for being "ouside of board discussion." fact.
welcome to South Africa.so. maybe it's not the game that needs to change, but people's perception of the African continent. Food for thought.
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I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone complain about Chris's side kick. For a supposed native of Africa, she looks an awful lot like a white chick with a sun tan. She's got light skin, very Anglo-Saxon looking facial features, and silky straight hair. If Capcom really wanted us to believe she's supposed to be black, they should have at least given her a darker skin color and a more African-looking haircut.Timstuff
[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone complain about Chris's side kick. For a supposed native of Africa, she looks an awful lot like a white chick with a sun tan. She's got light skin, very Anglo-Saxon looking facial features, and silky straight hair. If Capcom really wanted us to believe she's supposed to be black, they should have at least given her a darker skin color and a more African-looking haircut.TimstuffAgain, how many of you have been to Africa :| WAIT WAIT WAIT, what does this have to with System Wars ? I'm not saying it's unrealistic, I'm saying I'm surprised no-one has complained that Capcom decided to make her look that way rather than being darker and more ethnic looking, since they're already taking shots at the game with racism charges. She looks African, the question is what part of Africa. Lets consider the possibility that Africa is bigger than the slums you play in.
I live in the UK and one time a few years back on a night out, a girl referred to my mate who's black as "African American" in an attempt to be politically correct. We almost pi$$ed ourselves laughing. Too much American TV and not enough common sense!jarvis008
There are many similar stories here in California where activists referred to immigrants, who's resident status they were defending, as "African Americans." American PC is rather pervasive. I find it rather humorous that FoN tries to confine examples of PC to videogames when it's these more extraneous situations that are affecting the videogame in question.
[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone complain about Chris's side kick. For a supposed native of Africa, she looks an awful lot like a white chick with a sun tan. She's got light skin, very Anglo-Saxon looking facial features, and silky straight hair. If Capcom really wanted us to believe she's supposed to be black, they should have at least given her a darker skin color and a more African-looking haircut.TimstuffAgain, how many of you have been to Africa :| WAIT WAIT WAIT, what does this have to with System Wars ? I'm not saying it's unrealistic, I'm saying I'm surprised no-one has complained that Capcom decided to make her look that way rather than being darker and more ethnic looking, since they're already taking shots at the game with racism charges. *sigh* in reality, the only person who ever really said RE5 was veering into racist territory was some RANDOM woman on a RANDOM blog. She wasn't a gamer. She'd never played a Resident Evil game. Nobody...and I mean NOBODY, black white or other defended her position. Some understood, but nobody I've ever encountered agreed that the game came off racist. so yea...leave her alone. she's fine.
you contradict yourself. or just fail at sarcasm. here we have already acknowledged that certain countries in Africa are very much known for their diversity. it's neither my fault nor Capcom's fault that your mind defaults to images where nothing but black faces exist. The reality is that such places very much exist and persist...and will only get MORE diverse over time, not less. you're debating at this point just to debate. and that's fine if that's what you want to do, but count me out. Unless South Africa is no longer part of Africa, there is precedent for Capcom's depiction a ficticious locale "somewhere in Africa". Fire-of-NjoziNo country in Africa is known for its diversity. My point ws that whatever cases of diversity in Africa we discuss are not going to make diversity characteristic of Africa. i.e. When someone hears about RE being set in Africa, no one's going to immediately think about all the white people we'll be encountering.
South Africa doesn't represent all of Africa. And it just doesn't seem right to have Chinese zombie-guys in a backwater African village... regardless of where the game is set.foxhound_foxlol, fail. South Africa doesn't have to represent all of Africa. In the end, it only has to represent the part of Africa that the game took its queues from. at some point, you'll deal with that reality. South Africa is there. It's huge. It's populous. It's extremely influential in world politics. Your desire to ignore it in an attempt to try to find a reason to have issue with the composition of this game wreaks of an unnecessary desperation. what's your goal at this point? think about it, then answer.
She appears to be of mixed ethnic descent. Given her lighter skin and hard British accent. Where does it say she is supposed to be "black" anyways?foxhound_foxNo, she doesn't. she appears to have a perm. again,
says hi.
do you people not know what a perm is? or are you under the impression that people don't have the ability to get one, should they desire one?
[QUOTE="Fire-of-Njozi"]you contradict yourself. or just fail at sarcasm. here we have already acknowledged that certain countries in Africa are very much known for their diversity. it's neither my fault nor Capcom's fault that your mind defaults to images where nothing but black faces exist. The reality is that such places very much exist and persist...and will only get MORE diverse over time, not less. you're debating at this point just to debate. and that's fine if that's what you want to do, but count me out. Unless South Africa is no longer part of Africa, there is precedent for Capcom's depiction a ficticious locale "somewhere in Africa". Pariah_001No country in Africa is known for its diversity. My point ws that whatever cases of diversity in Africa we discuss are not going to make diversity characteristic of Africa. i.e. When someone hears about RE being set in Africa, no one's going to immediately think about all the white people we'll be encountering. Humans came from africa.
[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]Humans came from africa.Pariah_001How dare you bring your lies in here! http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/07/070718-african-origin.html
[QUOTE="Fire-of-Njozi"]you contradict yourself. or just fail at sarcasm. here we have already acknowledged that certain countries in Africa are very much known for their diversity. it's neither my fault nor Capcom's fault that your mind defaults to images where nothing but black faces exist. The reality is that such places very much exist and persist...and will only get MORE diverse over time, not less. you're debating at this point just to debate. and that's fine if that's what you want to do, but count me out. Unless South Africa is no longer part of Africa, there is precedent for Capcom's depiction a ficticious locale "somewhere in Africa". Pariah_001No country in Africa is known for its diversity. My point ws that whatever cases of diversity in Africa we discuss are not going to make diversity characteristic of Africa. i.e. When someone hears about RE being set in Africa, no one's going to immediately think about all the white people we'll be encountering.you're still trying to create arguments and disagreements where there are none. lol. the bottom line is that it doesn't matter if it's a "characteristic of Africa" or not. do these places exist? abso-damn-lutely. will the fact that South Africa isn't characteristic of every locale in the continent suddenly mean South Africa ceases to exist? absolutely not. can it be people fairly supposed that the game is based on an area similar to some part of South Africa? One that they weren't so abreast to the knowledge of? Sure. I'm not sure why you feel a game developer ought to placate to people's ignorance. No, you don't. you just want to argue. And move the goal posts along the way. I think I'm done with our sub-conversation. It's pointless.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/07/070718-african-origin.htmlSoulja_WestOh. You mean human development. Okay. Yeah, I've heard of the Fertile Crescent. But what does that have to do with racial demographics in the continent?
lol, fail. South Africa doesn't have to represent all of Africa. In the end, it only has to represent the part of Africa that the game took its queues from. at some point, you'll deal with that reality. South Africa is there. It's huge. It's populous. It's extremely influential in world politics. Your desire to ignore it in an attempt to try to find a reason to have issue with the composition of this game wreaks of an unnecessary desperation. what's your goal at this point? think about it, then answer.Fire-of-Njozi
[QUOTE="Fire-of-Njozi"]you contradict yourself. or just fail at sarcasm. here we have already acknowledged that certain countries in Africa are very much known for their diversity. it's neither my fault nor Capcom's fault that your mind defaults to images where nothing but black faces exist. The reality is that such places very much exist and persist...and will only get MORE diverse over time, not less. you're debating at this point just to debate. and that's fine if that's what you want to do, but count me out. Unless South Africa is no longer part of Africa, there is precedent for Capcom's depiction a ficticious locale "somewhere in Africa". Pariah_001No country in Africa is known for its diversity. No country? No country whatsoever? Is that what they teach you in America? Coz by God, at least we New Zealanders got it right from the start.
[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/07/070718-african-origin.htmlPariah_001Oh. You mean human development. Okay. Yeah, I've heard of the Fertile Crescent. But what does that have to do with racial demographics in the continent? I don't feel like explaining. Read between the lines. Its not that hard.
[QUOTE="Pariah_001"][QUOTE="Fire-of-Njozi"]you contradict yourself. or just fail at sarcasm. here we have already acknowledged that certain countries in Africa are very much known for their diversity. it's neither my fault nor Capcom's fault that your mind defaults to images where nothing but black faces exist. The reality is that such places very much exist and persist...and will only get MORE diverse over time, not less. you're debating at this point just to debate. and that's fine if that's what you want to do, but count me out. Unless South Africa is no longer part of Africa, there is precedent for Capcom's depiction a ficticious locale "somewhere in Africa". FrozenLiquidNo country in Africa is known for its diversity. No country? No country whatsoever? Is that what they teach you in America? Coz by God, at least we New Zealanders got it right from the start. He doesn't represent everybody, so please, don't start with "that".
[QUOTE="Fire-of-Njozi"]lol, fail. South Africa doesn't have to represent all of Africa. In the end, it only has to represent the part of Africa that the game took its queues from. at some point, you'll deal with that reality. South Africa is there. It's huge. It's populous. It's extremely influential in world politics. Your desire to ignore it in an attempt to try to find a reason to have issue with the composition of this game wreaks of an unnecessary desperation. what's your goal at this point? think about it, then answer.foxhound_fox
can it be people fairly supposed that the game is based on an area similar to some part of South Africa? One that they weren't so abreast to the knowledge of? Sure.Fire-of-NjoziIt can be supposed. That's about it. It's just as easy to point out that their attempt at characterizing a typical rural area in Africa is based on an ignorance of what the country's demographic primarily consists of.
Sure. I'm not sure why you feel a game developer ought to placate to people's ignorance. No, you don't. Fire-of-NjoziInventing places in Africa that have a lot of white people circumvents arrogance? What strange logic.
No country? No country whatsoever?FrozenLiquidNo. No country in Africa is generally known as a racially diverse hub. Trying to use an area in Africa that is at all diverse as a way of characterizing it as a generally diverse country is a ridiculous sentiment.
[QUOTE="gamefan67"][QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]I didnt kill any white people in re5 only Africans and Muslims, I dont know what your talking about SAGE_OF_FIREPlease don't say muslim. It is not politically correct. (only socially correct) You should say people who looked middle eastern. :| how it it not politically correct to call someone by there religion, and its a fact to. Northern africa is heavily populated by muslims But those "muslims" are still african right?
I don't feel like explaining. Read between the lines. Its not that hard.Soulja_WestActually it is. You see, I'm so stupid and politically incorrect, that I'm too ignorant to understand your point that's far beyond my intellect. Please, for the good of the nation, sacrifice a few minutes of your time for the sake of my ignorance.
Who cares? Honestly do people know that the japanese are a complete diverse culture from us? I mean Just because one blog points out racism everyone is on the bandwagon. I mean it's the Japanese COMMON peopleAnimal-Mother...not to be a party-pooper, but Japan has racial issues of its own, to be sure. lots.
...not to be a party-pooper, but Japan has racial issues of its own, to be sure. lots.Fire-of-Njozi
[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]Who cares? Honestly do people know that the japanese are a complete diverse culture from us? I mean Just because one blog points out racism everyone is on the bandwagon. I mean it's the Japanese COMMON peopleFire-of-Njozi...not to be a party-pooper, but Japan has racial issues of its own, to be sure. lots. Defiantly, but who cares, as long as we all know were not racist what's the problem. I mean i've created multiple threads on this issue, and people who care are just racist themselves. I can run over any ethnicity in GTA they get away with it. But the Japanese who create an intricate story line and just because the people are african american due to the location it's a problem
[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]I don't feel like explaining. Read between the lines. Its not that hard.Pariah_001Actually it is. You see, I'm so stupid and politically incorrect, that I'm too ignorant to understand your point that's far beyond my intellect. Please, for the good of the nation, sacrifice a few minutes of your time for the sake of my ignorance. I'm not your teacher. sorry...
if they had declared this fictitious place "South Africa", would you feel better? Fire-of-NjoziThe damage has already been done. Considering the state of the towns in the first previews, it's unlikely that Capcom was going to set the game in South Africa in the first place. To my knowledge, SA isn't as rural and whatever white people are there aren't generally in such a poor class. In one, Capcom would feel pressured to change the location. In another, Capcom would feel compelled to include more minorities. Either one is a reactive to coercion.
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