Reason number six zillion why PC gaming rules

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#1 Ninja-Hippo
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Haven't made a thread in system wars town in a while, but i've got exams to prepare for and i'll be damned if i'm not going to procrastinate for four hours before i get started.

First, i'll start with an observation.

If you're a console owner, odds are you've been screwed, and will continue to get screwed by the company which owns that platform for the foreseeable future. You may choose to live with this, or dismiss it as no big deal, but the fact remains the same; you consistently get the rough end of a deal when you choose a console. Examples?


+ Microsoft releasing a patch which blocks all the third party storage devices you already paid for. Allowing you to use USB sticks instead of crazy over-priced hard drives, but then limiting the amount of storage said USB stick can have, forcing you to either juggle your downloadable content at all times or shell out for one of their official HDDs.

+ Sony selling you a console with a series of features and then gradually removing them via firmware updates. Charging you to have a console repaired when their own firmware update broke it. Over-priced accessories.

+ Nintendo. Over-priced console. Over-priced games. Releasing new add-ons for the Wii Mote to make it do the things it was supposed to do in the first place. Weak online support.

+ And then of course, no matter what console you buy, you pay nearly TWICE the price for a new game if you get it on a console as opposed to getting it on the PC.


Conclusions?

PC gamers aren't held to ransom by a platform holder. You build your own rig. It's yours, nobody elses. No BS warranties. No firmware updates. No official accessories. You can do whatever the heck you want with it. Want a new avatar? Hell no you dont have to pay for it. PC gaming is the platform of doing whatever the heck you want/need to do to enjoy as many games as possible, not sitting back and waiting for Microsoft or Sony to deliver what they feel should suitably entertain you.

You think Jack Bauer goes home and plays his games on a console? Hells no.

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#4 BigBoss154
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I just want to play the quality titles that are on consoles and not on PC.

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#5 gameofthering
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I like to have have both.

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#6 Ninja-Hippo
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I like to have have both.

gameofthering
Exactly. I have both but at the same time i'd be bummed if i only had my consoles and not my PC.
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#7 88mphSlayer
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A 4000 $ console with upgrades every 15 days? No thanks. And I've played Crysis at a friend and it didn't even look that good. UC2 is graphics king.GeneralShowzer

noob

my 1337 rig cost $25,000 and i pay Abe Vigoda $300/min to upgrade it on the hour every hour

my next upgrade is this lovely $9000 audio cable

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#8 gameofthering
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[QUOTE="gameofthering"]

I like to have have both.

Ninja-Hippo

Exactly. I have both but at the same time i'd be bummed if i only had my consoles and not my PC.

Same, especially when your Xbox Live has ran out :P :( I want to go online and kick ass on DBZ :)

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#9 ritz2
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...I built my gaming PC this year for 500 dollars.

Edit: And that was with a bluray drive(What a waste) and all peripherals.

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#10 devious742
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You think Jack Bauer goes home and plays his games on a console? Hells no.

Ninja-Hippo

that made me lol:lol::D nice..you win :oops:

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#11 blackace
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="gameofthering"]

I like to have have both.

Exactly. I have both but at the same time i'd be bummed if i only had my consoles and not my PC.

I wouldn't be. At least not for games. I love my PC, but I like it for other reasons besides game play on it. Only games I'm waiting for on the PC is Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3. There's nothing else I really want. I'm going to have to drop a old 80GB HDD in my PC just to play those 2 games cause I'm almost out of memory on my 120GB.HDD. If Microsoft makes another Links game for the PC, I'd probably get it.
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#12 alexside1
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Your forgot that PC gamers have to put up with drm.
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]A 4000 $ console with upgrades every 15 days? No thanks. And I've played Crysis at a friend and it didn't even look that good. UC2 is graphics king.

Huh it's been 6 months for me. And 4,000 dollars. I spent about 350 to 400. Cheaper than when a PS3 initially launced
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#14 batman_is_aweso
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A 4000 $ console with upgrades every 15 days? No thanks. And I've played Crysis at a friend and it didn't even look that good. UC2 is graphics king.GeneralShowzer

ajhahahahahahahhhahahha

someone make this their sig

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#16 Mark3611
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...because PCs never have any components fail.
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#17 batman_is_aweso
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A 4000 $ console with upgrades every 15 days? No thanks. And I've played Crysis at a friend and it didn't even look that good. UC2 is graphics king.GeneralShowzer

also I love how every time someone tries to put down a game they say "they played it at a friends house"

and someone get those crysis pics out

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#18 smokeydabear076
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Your forgot that PC gamers have to put up with drm.alexside1
This is true, but not for every game, so BLAM! TAKE THAT!

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#19 batman_is_aweso
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...because PCs never have any components fail.Mark3611

because game consoles and their controllers never fail:roll:

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#20 ritz2
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...because PCs never have any components fail.Mark3611
Yep, I'll take 3 year warranties over parts via pc instead of paying 60 dollars for new ones though.
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#21 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="Mark3611"]...because PCs never have any components fail.batman_is_aweso

because game consoles and their controllers never fail:roll:

Oh and don't forget, there's no such thing as the RROD! Those crappy headsets also fail too!

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#22 RyuRanVII
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I'm pretty sure GeneralShowzer was being sarcastic. :lol:

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#23 ritz2
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I'm pretty sure GeneralShowzer was being sarcastic. :lol:

RyuRanVII


It's system wars, you can never tell :D

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#24 Arach666
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I'm pretty sure GeneralShowzer was being sarcastic. :lol:

RyuRanVII
Of course he was!
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#25 alexside1
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[QUOTE="alexside1"]Your forgot that PC gamers have to put up with drm.smokeydabear076

This is true, but not for every game, so BLAM! TAKE THAT!

But so many good games have them. :cry:
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#26 fend_oblivion
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Opinions. Gotta love them ;)

It's best gaming on all the systems. I can't wait for E3!!

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#27 fend_oblivion
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"]Your forgot that PC gamers have to put up with drm.alexside1

This is true, but not for every game, so BLAM! TAKE THAT!

But so many good games have them. :cry:

I only know 2 : AC 2 and SCC.

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#28 Sh4nk3r
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[QUOTE="RyuRanVII"]

I'm pretty sure GeneralShowzer was being sarcastic. :lol:

Arach666
Of course he was!

Lol.
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#29 SF_KiLLaMaN
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...because PCs never have any components fail.Mark3611
My EVGA graphics card has a lifetime warranty. I'm pretty sure that beats out your console warranty.
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#30 alexside1
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[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]This is true, but not for every game, so BLAM! TAKE THAT!

fend_oblivion

But so many good games have them. :cry:

I only know 2 : AC 2 and SCC.

Check Amazon.
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#31 blackace
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[QUOTE="Mark3611"]...because PCs never have any components fail.SF_KiLLaMaN
My EVGA graphics card has a lifetime warranty. I'm pretty sure that beats out your console warranty.

Not if your CPU or RAM fail it doesn't. With a game console, the whole thing is under warranty, not just one or two parts. I've had 2 nVidia cards fail on me and 1GB RAM card. Plus I had several viruses kill my Windows XP O/S where I had to reinstall XP twice. PC's can be a real headache. If you don't know what you're doing (luckily I do) even more of a pain.
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#32 DoomZaW
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A 4000 $ console with upgrades every 15 days? No thanks. And I've played Crysis at a friend and it didn't even look that good. UC2 is graphics king.GeneralShowzer

Just a quick illustration of how much that post fails

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs28/f/2008/100/e/3/FACEPALM_by_mayuzane.jpg

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#33 dontshackzmii
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pc has no games

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#34 lloveLamp
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id rather be a wii gamer.... ok that was a little harsh
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#35 ritz2
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="Mark3611"]...because PCs never have any components fail.blackace
My EVGA graphics card has a lifetime warranty. I'm pretty sure that beats out your console warranty.

Not if your CPU or RAM fail it doesn't. With a game console, the whole thing is under warranty, not just one or two parts. I've had 2 nVidia cards fail on me and 1GB RAM card. Plus I had several viruses kill my Windows XP O/S where I had to reinstall XP twice. PC's can be a real headache. If you don't know what you're doing (luckily I do) even more of a pain.

lol All the parts have 3 year no questions asked warranties and 4 GB of ram costs like 40 dollars now. Reinstalling XP? Wow, you have to put a disk in the drive and wait 30 minutes. Back up your files to DVD's or flash drives, you should do that anyway.
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#37 93soccer
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A 4000 $ console with upgrades every 15 days? No thanks. And I've played Crysis at a friend and it didn't even look that good. UC2 is graphics king.GeneralShowzer
The first part I can kinda agree with since you do have to update it every few months/years, but the second part just makes you look like a cow
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#38 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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There has been a huge increase of pc topics in systemwars, I think you all are actually threatened or just have no games to play.

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#39 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="Mark3611"]...because PCs never have any components fail.blackace
My EVGA graphics card has a lifetime warranty. I'm pretty sure that beats out your console warranty.

Not if your CPU or RAM fail it doesn't. With a game console, the whole thing is under warranty, not just one or two parts. I've had 2 nVidia cards fail on me and 1GB RAM card. Plus I had several viruses kill my Windows XP O/S where I had to reinstall XP twice. PC's can be a real headache. If you don't know what you're doing (luckily I do) even more of a pain.

Sounds like you have a problem with PCs in general not so much PC gaming. ;) With that said, if one of my parts die out past the warranty, I'll gladly buy a better one for same or lesser price than what I had bought the previous part for since prices go down and down over time.
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#40 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]A 4000 $ console with upgrades every 15 days? No thanks. And I've played Crysis at a friend and it didn't even look that good. UC2 is graphics king.93soccer
The first part I can kinda agree with since you do have to update it every few months/years, but the second part just makes you look like a cow

He is a known hermit, he was joking, making fun of console "noobs" that think it costs 4000 for a pc.

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#41 chaplainDMK
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Haven't made a thread in system wars town in a while, but i've got exams to prepare for and i'll be damned if i'm not going to procrastinate for four hours before i get started.

First, i'll start with an observation.

If you're a console owner, odds are you've been screwed, and will continue to get screwed by the company which owns that platform for the foreseeable future. You may choose to live with this, or dismiss it as no big deal, but the fact remains the same; you consistently get the rough end of a deal when you choose a console. Examples?


+ Microsoft releasing a patch which blocks all the third party storage devices you already paid for. Allowing you to use USB sticks instead of crazy over-priced hard drives, but then limiting the amount of storage said USB stick can have, forcing you to either juggle your downloadable content at all times or shell out for one of their official HDDs.

+ Sony selling you a console with a series of features and then gradually removing them via firmware updates. Charging you to have a console repaired when their own firmware update broke it. Over-priced accessories.
1. The only features witch they removed was Other OS (because people were trying to hack the PS3 with it) and ... wait what else have they removed?
2. When did a firmware update break the PS3?

+ Nintendo. Over-priced console. Over-priced games. Releasing new add-ons for the Wii Mote to make it do the things it was supposed to do in the first place. Weak online support.

+ And then of course, no matter what console you buy, you pay nearly TWICE the price for a new game if you get it on a console as opposed to getting it on the PC.
Wait 70€ is two time's as much as 60€?


Conclusions?

PC gamers aren't held to ransom by a platform holder. You build your own rig. It's yours, nobody elses. No BS warranties. No firmware updates. No official accessories. You can do whatever the heck you want with it. Want a new avatar? Hell no you dont have to pay for it. PC gaming is the platform of doing whatever the heck you want/need to do to enjoy as many games as possible, not sitting back and waiting for Microsoft or Sony to deliver what they feel should suitably entertain you.

You think Jack Bauer goes home and plays his games on a console? Hells no.

Ninja-Hippo

And btw, the PC is being forgotten by many multiplat devs...

And consoles have many advantages over PCs, for example, gigantic corporations with craploads of cash backing them. The result of that can be seen with the loads of exclusives we get each year.
Then you have the simplicity of throwing in a disc, and pressing play while lounging on your sofa (yeah you can hook up your PC to a TV too but how many people actualy do that?)
You have local multiplayer... Along with party games like Guitar Hero, Rock Band, Racing/Sports games etc.
And evreything is same evreywhere, so multiplayer is alot more skill based then on PCs, because you cant just buy some crazy good rig that can run evreything at 100 FPS and have a huge advantage over people with less powerfull setups.

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#42 svenus97
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What's with all the self-righteousness in SW? Is it that important for you people that others play your gaming platform?

On topic though, I have a gaming PC and a PS3, I tend to only play RPG's and RTS's on PC, sometimes better multiplats like Oblivion, but I play my PS3 mostly.

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And btw, the PC is being forgotten by many multiplat devs...

And consoles have many advantages over PCs, for example, gigantic corporations with craploads of cash backing them. The result of that can be seen with the loads of exclusives we get each year.
Then you have the simplicity of throwing in a disc, and pressing play while lounging on your sofa (yeah you can hook up your PC to a TV too but how many people actualy do that?)
You have local multiplayer... Along with party games like Guitar Hero, Rock Band, Racing/Sports games etc.
And evreything is same evreywhere, so multiplayer is alot more skill based then on PCs, because you cant just buy some crazy good rig that can run evreything at 100 FPS and have a huge advantage over people with less powerfull setups.

chaplainDMK

The PC still has the most and highest rated AAA/AA/A exclusives, WITHOUT these corporations. What does that say? Consoles have a plug and play advantage, but this is diminishing.

This generation alone, consoles have seen a basic operating system, mandatory installs, patches. Some of this could just be technological advances increasing the user friendliness of the system, but the way things are going consoles will end up more like a bastardized PC with none of the hardware or open platform advantages.

As for multiplayer being a lot more skill based, lol. That's all I have to say. Lol.

Local gaming obviously goes to consoles though. One would have to be ignorant to suggest otherwise.

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#44 chaplainDMK
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[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"]And btw, the PC is being forgotten by many multiplat devs...

And consoles have many advantages over PCs, for example, gigantic corporations with craploads of cash backing them. The result of that can be seen with the loads of exclusives we get each year.
Then you have the simplicity of throwing in a disc, and pressing play while lounging on your sofa (yeah you can hook up your PC to a TV too but how many people actualy do that?)
You have local multiplayer... Along with party games like Guitar Hero, Rock Band, Racing/Sports games etc.
And evreything is same evreywhere, so multiplayer is alot more skill based then on PCs, because you cant just buy some crazy good rig that can run evreything at 100 FPS and have a huge advantage over people with less powerfull setups.

-Feath-

The PC still has the most and highest rated AAA/AA/A exclusives, WITHOUT these corporations. What does that say? Consoles have a plug and play advantage, but this is diminishing.

This generation alone, consoles have seen a basic operating system, mandatory installs, patches. Some of this could just be technological advances increasing the user friendliness of the system, but the way things are going consoles will end up more like a bastardized PC with none of the hardware or open platform advantages.

As for multiplayer being a lot more skill based, lol. That's all I have to say. Lol.

Local gaming obviously goes to consoles though. One would have to be ignorant to suggest otherwise.

http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html

Gamerankings disagrees... First PC game is The Orange Box, about 10 places down...

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#45 WAIW
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"odds are", if you're an average PS3 owner, you haven't been affected by the loss of Linux (a mediocre, obscure feature that never impacted the PS3 community), paying to repair a console (what's the failure rate for PS3's, again?) and shelling out too much for accessories.

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#46 PublicNuisance
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http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html

Gamerankings disagrees... First PC game is The Orange Box, about 10 places down...

chaplainDMK

This is system wars son, here on gamespot the only list that matters is :

this one

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#47 dontshackzmii
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Right now i am a pc gamer only . I loved it last gen so once my old pc died i sold my consoles and got a gaming pc . So far i have been pretty let down. pretty much all the games i want are on console to . Very few exclusive games i want on pc these days .

Some thing i really do lvoe about pc . But i hate how pc gamers act like pc is the be all end all system . pc is not dying its just less and less relevant . consoles have really closed the gap this gen . Not having consoles i feel very left out .

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#48 Hexagon_777
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I installed Ubuntu 10.04 recently and I must say, it's a lot better than Windows Vista. I shall now make an analogy. Ubuntu is to Windows as PC gaming is to consoles.

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#49 yentlequible
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[QUOTE="-Feath-"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]A 4000 $ console with upgrades every 15 days? No thanks. And I've played Crysis at a friend and it didn't even look that good. UC2 is graphics king.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

hahahaha X2, I have both and while uncharted is easily one of my favorite games right now, It will NOT beat crysis. Maybe in a couple years when crysis is a little more outdated....
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#50 Hexagon_777
Member since 2007 • 20348 Posts

This is exactly why pc gamers are hated, they act like consoles are total trash and thay they are above everyone else. 360/ps3 owners mainly bash stuiped graphical differences and petty stuff. They debating/argiung seems pointless and harmless, pc gamers are the ones who take it to a whole other level. Why do you think your better then anyone else because you have a gaming pc? You all are missing out on way better games imo then they are, dont go posting you 15 yr old gaming lists to add cred.Advid-Gamer

Oh, stop the hypocrisy already. PC gamers treat 360/PS3 gamers the same way 360/PS3 gamers treat Wii gamers. Don't dish out what you can't take.