Reckoning destroys Skyrim's/Dark Souls' combat (IGN)

Indeed, it's Reckoning's gameplay that keeps rising to the top for me, because it's just so much better and far beyond what its WRPG contemporaries have done. It's arcadey, to be sure, but when you compare it to the three popular fantasy RPGs of our time -- Skyrim, Dark Souls and Dragon Age -- Reckoning easily out****s all of them in the gameplay department. The competition isn't even remotely close in any respect.

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Reckoning simply has the most action packed, veristile combat ever in a RPG. Not even Demo Souls/Dark Souls can match the pure gameplay of KoA:R.

The combat in Skyrim is miserable. If games like Bayonetta and God of War are on one end of a spectrum, games like Skyrim are so far on the other end that they have fallen off the spectrum and actually can not even see the spectrum from where they are.

Amalur is the polar opposite. The combat system in Amalur is fast paced and incredibly deep. I'd say the way this game handles ****choice is one of my favorite things about the title. There are three skill trees, might, finesse, and sorcery. As you level up you earn talent points and can invest them into any branch you like. So far pretty standard stuff. The twist is that throwing points into these trees will slowly unlock hybrid ****s. For example, I started off in sorcery and chose a pretty standard wizard type **** I got a bonus to my mana pool and that sort of thing. Then I started putting points into finesse and I unlocked a couple of hybrid ****s. Now I'm a spell casting rogue with magic blades! I get a bonus to blade weapons and a boost to magic damage. There are tons of these hybrid ****s encompassing all the various combinations of talent points and trees. So as you play the game and shuffle your points around you can also be cycling through different ****choices each with their own bonuses and special powers.

Source

Skyrims combat is simply a joke. Really it's combat might as well been from 2 gens ago cause it certainly feels like it belongs there. KoA:R is the future for RPG games in terms of combat and will be the sleeper hit of this year.

IGN is simply a joke.Ringx55

So after complaining about Skyrim's combat since its release people are still pointing out the obvious,uh.

I played the demo. The game is so generic, that includes the combat.

So after complaining about Skyrim's combat since its release people are still pointing out the obvious,uh.

freedomfreak

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

So after complaining about Skyrim's combat since its release people are still pointing out the obvious,uh.

Stevo_the_gamer

for a start combat in skyrim isnt really that great tbh.

And Dark Souls' combat is better than both.

Well this isn't very hard to do.

Hypocrisy

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

So after complaining about Skyrim's combat since its release people are still pointing out the obvious,uh.

Stevo_the_gamer

Indeed, it's Reckoning's gameplay that keeps rising to the top for me, because it's just so much better and far beyond what its WRPG contemporaries have done. It's arcadey, to be sure, but when you compare it to the three popular fantasy RPGs of our time -- Skyrim, Dark Souls and Dragon Age -- Reckoning easily out****s all of them in the gameplay department. The competition isn't even remotely close in any respect.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1216517p1.html

Reckoning simply has the most action packed, veristile combat ever in a RPG. Not even Demo Souls/Dark Souls can match the pure gameplay of KoA:R.

The combat in Skyrim is miserable. If games like Bayonetta and God of War are on one end of a spectrum, games like Skyrim are so far on the other end that they have fallen off the spectrum and actually can not even see the spectrum from where they are.

Amalur is the polar opposite. The combat system in Amalur is fast paced and incredibly deep. I'd say the way this game handles ****choice is one of my favorite things about the title. There are three skill trees, might, finesse, and sorcery. As you level up you earn talent points and can invest them into any branch you like. So far pretty standard stuff. The twist is that throwing points into these trees will slowly unlock hybrid ****s. For example, I started off in sorcery and chose a pretty standard wizard type **** I got a bonus to my mana pool and that sort of thing. Then I started putting points into finesse and I unlocked a couple of hybrid ****s. Now I'm a spell casting rogue with magic blades! I get a bonus to blade weapons and a boost to magic damage. There are tons of these hybrid ****s encompassing all the various combinations of talent points and trees. So as you play the game and shuffle your points around you can also be cycling through different ****choices each with their own bonuses and special powers.

Source

Skyrims combat is simply a joke. Really it's combat might as well been from 2 gens ago cause it certainly feels like it belongs there. KoA:R is the future for RPG games in terms of combat and will be the sleeper hit of this year.

Ringx55

Looking very hard for the Demon's Souls/Dark souls quote in that passage, I am not seeing it...did....Did you just make that part up?

Indeed, it's Reckoning's gameplay that keeps rising to the top for me, because it's just so much better and far beyond what its WRPG contemporaries have done. It's arcadey, to be sure, but when you compare it to the three popular fantasy RPGs of our time -- Skyrim, Dark Souls and Dragon Age -- Reckoning easily out****s all of them in the gameplay department. The competition isn't even remotely close in any respect.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1216517p1.html

Reckoning simply has the most action packed, veristile combat ever in a RPG. Not even Demo Souls/Dark Souls can match the pure gameplay of KoA:R.

The combat in Skyrim is miserable. If games like Bayonetta and God of War are on one end of a spectrum, games like Skyrim are so far on the other end that they have fallen off the spectrum and actually can not even see the spectrum from where they are.

Amalur is the polar opposite. The combat system in Amalur is fast paced and incredibly deep. I'd say the way this game handles ****choice is one of my favorite things about the title. There are three skill trees, might, finesse, and sorcery. As you level up you earn talent points and can invest them into any branch you like. So far pretty standard stuff. The twist is that throwing points into these trees will slowly unlock hybrid ****s. For example, I started off in sorcery and chose a pretty standard wizard type **** I got a bonus to my mana pool and that sort of thing. Then I started putting points into finesse and I unlocked a couple of hybrid ****s. Now I'm a spell casting rogue with magic blades! I get a bonus to blade weapons and a boost to magic damage. There are tons of these hybrid ****s encompassing all the various combinations of talent points and trees. So as you play the game and shuffle your points around you can also be cycling through different ****choices each with their own bonuses and special powers.

Source

Skyrims combat is simply a joke. Really it's combat might as well been from 2 gens ago cause it certainly feels like it belongs there. KoA:R is the future for RPG games in terms of combat and will be the sleeper hit of this year.

Ringx55

[QUOTE="Ringx55"]

Indeed, it's Reckoning's gameplay that keeps rising to the top for me, because it's just so much better and far beyond what its WRPG contemporaries have done. It's arcadey, to be sure, but when you compare it to the three popular fantasy RPGs of our time -- Skyrim, Dark Souls and Dragon Age -- Reckoning easily out****s all of them in the gameplay department. The competition isn't even remotely close in any respect.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1216517p1.html

Reckoning simply has the most action packed, veristile combat ever in a RPG. Not even Demo Souls/Dark Souls can match the pure gameplay of KoA:R.

The combat in Skyrim is miserable. If games like Bayonetta and God of War are on one end of a spectrum, games like Skyrim are so far on the other end that they have fallen off the spectrum and actually can not even see the spectrum from where they are.

Amalur is the polar opposite. The combat system in Amalur is fast paced and incredibly deep. I'd say the way this game handles ****choice is one of my favorite things about the title. There are three skill trees, might, finesse, and sorcery. As you level up you earn talent points and can invest them into any branch you like. So far pretty standard stuff. The twist is that throwing points into these trees will slowly unlock hybrid ****s. For example, I started off in sorcery and chose a pretty standard wizard type **** I got a bonus to my mana pool and that sort of thing. Then I started putting points into finesse and I unlocked a couple of hybrid ****s. Now I'm a spell casting rogue with magic blades! I get a bonus to blade weapons and a boost to magic damage. There are tons of these hybrid ****s encompassing all the various combinations of talent points and trees. So as you play the game and shuffle your points around you can also be cycling through different ****choices each with their own bonuses and special powers.

Source

Skyrims combat is simply a joke. Really it's combat might as well been from 2 gens ago cause it certainly feels like it belongs there. KoA:R is the future for RPG games in terms of combat and will be the sleeper hit of this year.

casharmy

Looking very hard for the Demon's Souls/Dark souls quote in that passage, I am not seeing it...did....Did you just make that part up?

Non linear immense world full of possibilities >>>> Combat

Do I even want my rpgs to play like Bayonetta?

Not only is the combat better, but so is the loot system. That's my biggest issue with the elder scroll games is that their loot system is just flat out lame. To get anything good you have to spend points in blacksmithing and alchemy to make potions that will help you make netter gear. I like the Diablo system where you have a chance of finding something EPIC off even just a little scrub monster. Not a good chance, mind you, but a chance!

KoA took the world system from TES, the loot system from Diablo, for Todd McFarlane for the art and Salvatore for the story. C'mon guys, this game is going to be good if you have even a passing interest in RPGs...

Elder Scrolls games are all about overwhelming you with content and the lively world. They've never been about cutting edge gameplay. Merex760

Even fifa destryos Skyrim's combat. It's simply terrible.

Many games have better combat than Skyrim. Doesnt change the fact Skyrim is a better game than most games.

Many games have better combat than Skyrim. Doesnt change the fact Skyrim is a better game than most games.

PAL360

[QUOTE="Merex760"]Elder Scrolls games are all about overwhelming you with content and the lively world. They've never been about cutting edge gameplay. BrunoBRS

Unbearable? Skyrim's combat isn't the greatest but you can't even bear to just repeatedly hit the attack button? Kind of weak...

Combat is Skyrim's weakest point imo. You have RPGs like Demon and Dark Souls that makes Skyrim's combat look abysmal. And thats being nice.

Combat is Skyrim's weakest point imo. You have RPGs like Demon and Dark Souls that makes Skyrim's combat look abysmal. And thats being nice.

xOMGITSJASONx

Good thing then that Skyrim never was trying to imitate Dark Souls/Demon Souls combat. Not to mention their combat mechanics never would work in the Elder Scrolls univerese.

The demo is pretty awful, I really doubt the combat is that much better in the full game.

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Combat is Skyrim's weakest point imo. You have RPGs like Demon and Dark Souls that makes Skyrim's combat look abysmal. And thats being nice.

Goyoshi12

Good thing then that Skyrim never was trying to imitate Dark Souls/Demon Souls combat. Not to mention their combat mechanics never would work in the Elder Scrolls univerese.

That's not saying much. But better than Dragon Age? We'll see.

I don't see how that is the case with Dark Souls since the combat is perfect in that game

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Combat is Skyrim's weakest point imo. You have RPGs like Demon and Dark Souls that makes Skyrim's combat look abysmal. And thats being nice.

themajormayor

Good thing then that Skyrim never was trying to imitate Dark Souls/Demon Souls combat. Not to mention their combat mechanics never would work in the Elder Scrolls univerese.

It isn't but that's not the point. The point is that Skyrim was improving the combat over Oblivion's combat and that's it, really. Considering the amount of execution moves and the improved magic system I'd say they did a bang up* job on it.

*: That means they did good on it.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

Good thing then that Skyrim never was trying to imitate Dark Souls/Demon Souls combat. Not to mention their combat mechanics never would work in the Elder Scrolls univerese.

Goyoshi12

It isn't but that's not the point. The point is that Skyrim was improving the combat over Oblivion's combat and that's it, really. Considering the amount of execution moves and the improved magic system I'd say they did a bang up* job on it.

*: That means they did good on it.

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] It couldn't possibly be any worsethemajormayor

It isn't but that's not the point. The point is that Skyrim was improving the combat over Oblivion's combat and that's it, really. Considering the amount of execution moves and the improved magic system I'd say they did a bang up* job on it.

*: That means they did good on it.

Therein lies the problem. Here's a tip. Play Morrowind.

You want a game with worse combat than Skyrim and is apart of the Elder Scrols universe? Then there ya go.

This thread would have gotten more views if you made it abou IGN saying it's combat was better than Dark Souls.

Why Skyrim? It's not exactly know for its combat.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

It isn't but that's not the point. The point is that Skyrim was improving the combat over Oblivion's combat and that's it, really. Considering the amount of execution moves and the improved magic system I'd say they did a bang up* job on it.

*: That means they did good on it.

Goyoshi12

Therein lies the problem. Here's a tip. Play Morrowind.

You want a game with worse combat than Skyrim and is apart of the Elder Scrols universe? Then there ya go.

Sigh... when will Sony fans stop being bitter about missing out on the GOTY?

3rd parties don't care about the last place console. Deal with it ;)

Lol u mad or something? What did skyrim do to you? Anyways this was a given. TES have never been strong in combat.

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] I never played Oblivion so the only thing I see is how much Skyrim's combat sucksthemajormayor

Therein lies the problem. Here's a tip. Play Morrowind.

You want a game with worse combat than Skyrim and is apart of the Elder Scrols universe? Then there ya go.

Fine, but Skyrim's combat is much better than the previous iterations of the Elder Scrolls series and that's really what they were trying to do is all I'm saying. Do other games have better combat than Skyrim? Yes. Should we have expected Skyrim's combat to be like them? No.

Sigh... when will Sony fans stop being bitter about missing out on the GOTY?

3rd parties don't care about the last place console. Deal with it ;)

phonemug

No surprise there, skyrim's combat is terrible.

I am surprised however they consider the combat on amalur to be better than DS, and from what i've played in the demo i disagree.

Simply put, you can afford to make many mistakes in amalur, the ammount of pots and whatnot makes sure you can live through it easy and that doesn't happen in DS... if you make 1 mistake you risk death, 2 in a row then your death is certain.

The combat is fast paced yes, but nothing above what i've seen.

Still, i am keeping an eye on this game.

I played the demo. The game is so generic, that includes the combat.

GrannyGoat

The combat really looks nothing special, hell it looks a little rigid. The 3rd person view, cartoon look and title-and-health-bar-over-enemy's-head gives it even less of an impact.

Also if Skyrim's combat is considered terrible, how did you people get through Bioshock, Deus Ex, Morrowind, System Shock, ME2 and other such games? Am I the only one who liked the combat?

Many games have better combat than Skyrim. Doesnt change the fact Skyrim is a better game than most games.

PAL360

The combat really looks nothing special, hell it looks a little rigid. The 3rd person view, cartoon look and title-and-health-bar-over-enemy's-head gives it even less of an impact.

Also if Skyrim's combat is considered terrible, how did you people get through Bioshock, Deus Ex, Morrowind, System Shock, ME2 and other such games? Am I the only one who liked the combat?

cyborg100000