Reckoning destroys Skyrim's/Dark Souls' combat (IGN)

If an action RPG doesn't destroy Skyrim's combat, then it has a problem as an action RPG. And yes, IGN is a joke.funsohng

Amalur is a worst joke than IGN though, must be a first

I think each IGN reviewer is required to throw in at least three ridiculous superlatives in each review.

[QUOTE="funsohng"]If an action RPG doesn't destroy Skyrim's combat, then it has a problem as an action RPG. And yes, IGN is a joke.loosingENDS

Amalur is a worst joke than IGN though, must be a first

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]If an action RPG doesn't destroy Skyrim's combat, then it has a problem as an action RPG. And yes, IGN is a joke.funsohng

Amalur is a worst joke than IGN though, must be a first

That the game is one of the worst games ever made of course

Obviously they tried to do too much and ended up doing too much of a terrible thing than less of a better one

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Amalur is a worst joke than IGN though, must be a first

loosingENDS

That the game is one of the worst games ever made of course

Obviously they tried to do too much and ended up doing too much of a terrible thing than less of a better one

Just finished the demo, the game is one of the worst i have played in years

loosingENDS

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Just finished the demo, the game is one of the worst i have played in years

topsemag55

Why would i die in this game ? Was easier than Fable even

[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Just finished the demo, the game is one of the worst i have played in years

loosingENDS

Why would i die in this game ? Was easier than Fable even

skyrim is a role playing game for crying out loud, don't you guys have enough imagination to role play that it has good combat?

i mean damn, use the block every once in awhile, parry a bit, use a potion that ups one handed, sure you don't need to do any of those things but come on, show a little initiative once in awhile.

help it help you. help it..... help you....

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Better than Dark Souls's combat? We'll see when the game releases, Dark Souls has amazing combat.

BrunoBRS

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

Better than Dark Souls's combat? We'll see when the game releases, Dark Souls has amazing combat.

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] you can play the demo and see how laughable the game is right now.BrunoBRS

I don't think it feels better than darksouls. While darksouls may not be as fast paced or arcadey. DS has a real feel of heft behind the weapons that I enjoy.

IGN are full of **** as usual, except for their analysis on Skyrim I agree with that.

I uninstalled the demo after one playthrough...mitu123

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="mitu123"] I already played the demo, lol.

mitu123

A few things in the demo dissapointed me (but then again I dont take demos that serious, especially rpg demos), but the combat was much better then I expected.

I hope the story is decent and that there are some really good characters that you meet on top of the combat though ;)

Dude, Skyrim combat and the combat in all Elder Scrolls games is pretty crappy.II_Seraphim_II

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] you can play the demo and see how laughable the game is right now.BrunoBRS

Yeah those daggers are seirously overpowered to the point that the combat just isn't fun. It's just a tedious button masher with those things and the only good thing the daggers are for is the awesome stealth kills. At least in Skyrim their is some kind of higher difficulty than Amalur. For Example: I doubt anyone can kill a frost troll with a steel dagger and some standard armour, ie. just some regular hide or steel armour of sorts. Whilst in Amalur I can just kill a @#$%ing rock troll with my starting daggers no sweat.

Yeah those daggers are seirously overpowered to the point that the combat just isn't fun. It's just a tedious button masher with those things and the only good thing the daggers are for is the awesome stealth kills. At least in Skyrim their is some kind of higher difficulty than Amalur. For Example: I doubt anyone can kill a frost troll with a steel dagger and some standard armour, ie. just some regular hide or steel armour of sorts. Whilst in Amalur I can just kill a @#$%ing rock troll with my starting daggers no sweat.

Goyoshi12

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

Yeah those daggers are seirously overpowered to the point that the combat just isn't fun. It's just a tedious button masher with those things and the only good thing the daggers are for is the awesome stealth kills. At least in Skyrim their is some kind of higher difficulty than Amalur. For Example: I doubt anyone can kill a frost troll with a steel dagger and some standard armour, ie. just some regular hide or steel armour of sorts. Whilst in Amalur I can just kill a @#$%ing rock troll with my starting daggers no sweat.

topsemag55

Yeah, but this is NORMAL difficulty and it felt EXTREMELY easy.

Besides, Skyrim can be set on hard and it's still incredibly easy so there's that to consider.

Yeah, but this is NORMAL difficulty and it felt EXTREMELY easy.Goyoshi12

Many games do that now. Gears of War 3's Normal mode is made for babies, and it's not even the easiest option. If you've played shooters before you're supposed to play on Hardcore.

Dude, Skyrim combat and the combat in all Elder Scrolls games is pretty crappy.II_Seraphim_II

I think it might be a bit early to judge the combat in amalur. Even the difference in fun and complexity from level 1 to level 3 was pretty significant, so I wouldn't be surprised if the combat does end up being pretty good with higher level characters.

im late to the thread but are we hating on skyrim now? well it was a matter of time since people love to hate popular things...

im late to the thread but are we hating on skyrim now? well it was a matter of time since people love to hate popular things...

Krelian-co

It's been happening since the game came out, dude. I can't wait for May because that will be 6 months after the game was released and we get to hear feedback from System Wars.

seriously every time a game becomes popular there appears the retarded trolls, omg i don't like, so its overrated!

The demo was the defenition of average

seriously every time a game becomes popular there appears the retarded trolls, omg i don't like, so its overrated!

Krelian-co

Heck Ken Rolston (lead game designer for Morrowind and Oblivion) will be the first to tell you that the combat is pretty terrible and this game he can finally say has very good combat.

[QUOTE="funsohng"]If an action RPG doesn't destroy Skyrim's combat, then it has a problem as an action RPG. And yes, IGN is a joke.loosingENDS

Amalur is a worst joke than IGN though, must be a first

can u explain to me why is it a joke? nevermind, your stupidity may be contagious and i couldn't care less about your opinion.

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

seriously every time a game becomes popular there appears the retarded trolls, omg i don't like, so its overrated!

Ringx55

Heck Ken Rolston (lead game designer for Morrowind and Oblivion) will be the first to tell you that the combat is pretty terrible and this game he can finally say has very good combat.

Oblivion came out 5 years ago. Why does everyone forget it?

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

seriously every time a game becomes popular there appears the retarded trolls, omg i don't like, so its overrated!

Ringx55

Heck Ken Rolston (lead game designer for Morrowind and Oblivion) will be the first to tell you that the combat is pretty terrible and this game he can finally say has very good combat.

the combat was fine (not great) but fine, the game had a lot more going on to compensate for that, no game is perfect, as for amalur, yes it probably has better combat, i've played the demo and liked it.

[QUOTE="Ringx55"]

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

seriously every time a game becomes popular there appears the retarded trolls, omg i don't like, so its overrated!

Goyoshi12

Heck Ken Rolston (lead game designer for Morrowind and Oblivion) will be the first to tell you that the combat is pretty terrible and this game he can finally say has very good combat.

Oblivion came out 5 years ago. Why does everyone forget it?

[QUOTE="Ringx55"]

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

seriously every time a game becomes popular there appears the retarded trolls, omg i don't like, so its overrated!

Krelian-co

Heck Ken Rolston (lead game designer for Morrowind and Oblivion) will be the first to tell you that the combat is pretty terrible and this game he can finally say has very good combat.

the combat was fine (not great) but fine, the game had a lot more going on to compensate for that, no game is perfect, as for amalur, yes it probably has better combat, i've played the demo and liked it.

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="Ringx55"] Skyrim has the weakest combat of any WRPG to come out in the last couple years. That's not trolling it's fact.

Heck Ken Rolston (lead game designer for Morrowind and Oblivion) will be the first to tell you that the combat is pretty terrible and this game he can finally say has very good combat.

Ringx55

Oblivion came out 5 years ago. Why does everyone forget it?

Execution kills.

Improved magic.

Better overall feel to it.

Duel-wielding.

More powerful sneak attacks.

Improved arrow firing.

That kind of stuff.

[QUOTE="Ringx55"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

Oblivion came out 5 years ago. Why does everyone forget it?

Goyoshi12

Execution kills.

Improved magic.

Better overall feel to it.

Duel-wielding.

More powerful sneak attacks.

Improved arrow firing.

That kind of stuff.

[QUOTE="Ringx55"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

Oblivion came out 5 years ago. Why does everyone forget it?

Goyoshi12

Execution kills.

Improved magic.

Better overall feel to it.

Duel-wielding.

More powerful sneak attacks.

Improved arrow firing.

That kind of stuff.

Oblivion came out 5 years ago. Why does everyone forget it?

Goyoshi12

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic came out at the same time as Oblivion and completely demolished it, combat-wise. I remember heaps of threads back then hoping that the fifth Elder Scrolls game would have Dark Messiah's combat.

Five years on, and Skyrim just uses Oblivion's clunky combat with a few tweaks (and Oblivion's combat felt outdated five years ago). Sure, they borrowed Dark Messiah's execution kills, and added a second hand, etc...but the base combat is still the same.

I think there's a bit too much tension around here about the quality of Skyrim's combat.

It's okay. It's not the best part of the game, but it's not so awful it ruins it.

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="Ringx55"] And can you tell me what changes have been made to Skyrim's combat in those 5 years? Duel-wielding?! WOW SO AMAZING.Ringx55

Execution kills.

Improved magic.

Better overall feel to it.

Duel-wielding.

More powerful sneak attacks.

Improved arrow firing.

That kind of stuff.

Subjective.

But not in the Elder Scrolls games.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]@Ringx55 I played the demo and it plays OK.Ringx55

One thing that still makes me laugh at Amalur is the "shield system". When I first got a shield, I thought there was some bug because I couldn't see my shield on my back when I put it on. But then I pressed the block button and I almost fell down laughing. Suddenly my character conjured a gigantic shield that was almost bigger than himself from thin air and when I stopped blocking it disappeared. I can use a shield even if I'm dual wielding daggers or have a two handed weapon. Doesn't make any sense.

Other things that I didn't like is the art style, voice acting, characters don't show any facial expressions during dialog (even Skyrim has some). Amalur reminds me a lot of Divinity 2 and D&D: Daggerdale. Divinity 2 is actually an ok game, but Daggerdale sucked.

LOL

I'm not even going to read the post. Comparing the combat in Skyrim to Kingdom of Amalur is like comparing Call of Duty and Super Mario 3D Land.

Yes, I've played the demo, was pretty impressed with the game.

I too played the demo and came away impressed. The skill trees are deep and you can create hybrid classes, combat its quick, fun, and precise with gorgeous environments.

I just wish it wasn't EA, and the crap they pull with online passes....argh!

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

Oblivion came out 5 years ago. Why does everyone forget it?

Planeforger

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic came out at the same time as Oblivion and completely demolished it, combat-wise. I remember heaps of threads back then hoping that the fifth Elder Scrolls game would have Dark Messiah's combat.

Five years on, and Skyrim just uses Oblivion's clunky combat with a few tweaks (and Oblivion's combat felt outdated five years ago). Sure, they borrowed Dark Messiah's execution kills, and added a second hand, etc...but the base combat is still the same.