Rumor: Ps4 devs have access to 7GB GDDR5 RAM

Fraps is a terrible fvcking standard, i'm pretty sure whatever the ps4 has planned won't half your framerate when you record.

ReadingRainbow4

[QUOTE="PC_Otter"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Because it is a console and the OS should be minimal

That 1GB is probably also including space for caching videos etc

loosingENDS

I think PS4 implementation will be nothing like FRAPS that has to conform to what the OS allows for getting the stream

Probably the PS4 one will be close to free, otherwise would make no sense at all to have such a feature that noone would care about and yet compromise the quality of every game

Just makes zero sense, unless Sony people escaped from a nut house

Fraps is a terrible fvcking standard, i'm pretty sure whatever the ps4 has planned won't half your framerate when you record.

ReadingRainbow4

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="PC_Otter"] If the so secondary "security/media co-processor" actually exists in the PS4, it could possibly record and encode in realtime, keeping the memory footprint in RAM and on the HDD manageable. Lord knows what FRAPS does to PCs as you scale the quality and recordable FPS up. stereointegrity

I think PS4 implementation will be nothing like FRAPS that has to conform to what the OS allows for getting the stream

Probably the PS4 one will be close to free, otherwise would make no sense at all to have such a feature that noone would care about and yet compromise the quality of every game

Just makes zero sense, unless Sony people escaped from a nut house

Anyone able to explain this in English? i dont get dis nerdy shit :(

is this good or bad? :o

finalstar2007

All of that won't be used for graphics.

super600

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I think PS4 implementation will be nothing like FRAPS that has to conform to what the OS allows for getting the stream

Probably the PS4 one will be close to free, otherwise would make no sense at all to have such a feature that noone would care about and yet compromise the quality of every game

Just makes zero sense, unless Sony people escaped from a nut house

clyde46

so, the new cell is the GDDR5 Ram, cows never learn how sony scam everybody before the lauching of their consoles, (1994, 2000, 2005, 201?)

olart4618

It has already been revealed that the PS4 is going to be released on or before the 2013 holidays.

Also, tell me what the PS, and PS2 didn't deliver on? The PS3 was crap.... However, so was the 360, and the Wii for that matter so I don't see your point.

I called it from the start that this generation was going to be a guinea pig generation, and that is exactly what it was. There was absolutley nothing "next gen" about it. Next Gen as the industry has it hyped is not just the next generation of gaming, but they have had it made out to be something AWESOME and ground breaking. This gen was definately not. It sounds like this upcoming generation is finally going to deliver on most of the BS hype that we all bought into THIS generation. Since I have actually seen some of it in motion, I am excited and my hype meter is already way higher then it ever was this entire generation.

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="clyde46"] :lol: yes it does the rumored secondary ARM processor is meant for passive background tasks. So it will have to go to PS4's 8 core cpu. Yes it does. 04dcarraher

yes it will tax the processor, core/s, the rumored ARM processor is suppose be for passive backgrounds tasks which mean that the streaming/recording will have to fall upon the 8 core cpu. 

Video recording seems like a passive bgrd process

Let's hope that $ony reserve enough ram for the inevitable Durango features that they try and add with a last ditch attempt to stay relevant :?

HaRmLeSS_RaGe

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]on the ps4 no it doesnt loosingENDS

yes it will tax the processor, core/s, the rumored ARM processor is suppose be for passive backgrounds tasks which mean that the streaming/recording will have to fall upon the 8 core cpu. 

Video recording seems like a passive bgrd process

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]why are people surprised that an OS is taking up ram........PC_Otter

Because it is a console and the OS should be minimal

That 1GB is probably also including space for caching videos etc

I thought the rumors mentioned the PS4 having a dedicated hardware-based chip for encoding videos. It'll still take up RAM. But, at least the workload is taken off the CPU unlike FRAPS which brings my PC to its knees especially when encoding 1080p video (while playing a game). If the rumors are true, that'll be sweet.

I think I specifically remember during the press conference them saying ALL the UI and OS feature's would not tax the CPU or GPU and will use the ARM chip.  I really doubt these things are going to suck up needed resources since the PS4 has been designed so that won't happen, they're making a console for the developers afterall.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]on the ps4 no it doesnt loosingENDS

yes it will tax the processor, core/s, the rumored ARM processor is suppose be for passive backgrounds tasks which mean that the streaming/recording will have to fall upon the 8 core cpu. 

Video recording seems like a passive bgrd process

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="PC_Otter"] If the so secondary "security/media co-processor" actually exists in the PS4, it could possibly record and encode in realtime, keeping the memory footprint in RAM and on the HDD manageable. Lord knows what FRAPS does to PCs as you scale the quality and recordable FPS up. PC_Otter

I thought the rumors mentioned the PS4 having a dedicated hardware-based chip for encoding videos. It'll still take up RAM. But, at least the workload is taken off the CPU unlike FRAPS which brings my PC to its knees especially when encoding 1080p video (while playing a game). If the rumors are true, that'll be sweet.

[QUOTE="PC_Otter"]

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

I thought the rumors mentioned the PS4 having a dedicated hardware-based chip for encoding videos. It'll still take up RAM. But, at least the workload is taken off the CPU unlike FRAPS which brings my PC to its knees especially when encoding 1080p video (while playing a game). If the rumors are true, that'll be sweet.

clyde46

Most likely Ps4 will have swappable drive's again and SSD will maybe finally be viable.  Then again, Games are supposed to have hefty installs next gen and price per GB for SSD is still high...

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="PC_Otter"] It taxes the CPU but it's taxing your GPU bandwidth more than anything.  It's a direct recording of the framebuffer.  At least that's my theory.04dcarraher

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="PC_Otter"] It taxes the CPU but it's taxing your GPU bandwidth more than anything.  It's a direct recording of the framebuffer.  At least that's my theory.

Chozofication

Most likely Ps4 will have swappable drive's again and SSD will maybe finally be viable.  Then again, Games are supposed to have hefty installs next gen and price per GB for SSD is still high...

[QUOTE="super600"]

All of that won't be used for graphics.

Heil68

:lol:

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Streaming and video recording is not normal background tasks, and how about your 512mb OS claim :lol:

tormentos

So thats 1GB dedicated to the Sony OS / Sony Kinect rip-off LOLRR360DD

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]  WTF....lo Sytem and OS cocer background task like streaming,what the hell run background task on pc? Oh yeah is the OS windows,so if windows require 2gb that include background task. You were owned big time since you claim many times that most of the RAM would be for OS and features.lolTessellation

Streaming and video recording is not background , and how about your 512mb OS claim :lol:

So thats 1GB dedicated to the Sony OS / Sony Kinect rip-off LOLRR360DD

[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Streaming and video recording is not background , and how about your 512mb OS claim :lol:

tormentos

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]So thats 1GB dedicated to the Sony OS / Sony Kinect rip-off LOLtormentos

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]So thats 1GB dedicated to the Sony OS / Sony Kinect rip-off LOLRR360DD

LOL please stop, you're not convincing anyoneRR360DD

Thank You Sony :cool:

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"] and this is just a rumor made by some sketchy website(they have no proof),imagine if it takes even more than 1GB he is going to commit suicide,since his life depends on PS4 ''superiority'' :lol:04dcarraher

176 gb/s >>>> 68 gb/s :cool:

Thank You Sony :cool:

OldSnakePS3

I also have to thank Power A

and Penguin United for making my PS3 that much more enjoyable. May their genius transfer over to the PS4.

lol I remember when tormentos claimed that the os wouldnt take anywhere near 1 GB to run.  So much wrong and fail, utterly destroyed by herm kind :lol:

lol I remember when tormentos claimed that the os wouldnt take anywhere near 1 GB to run.  So much wrong and fail, utterly destroyed by herm kind :lol:

Rage010101

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="killzowned24"] PS4 has more bandwidth anyway so can do more per frame regardless. :lol:

killzowned24

176 gb/s >>>> 68 gb/s :cool:

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

lol I remember when tormentos claimed that the os wouldnt take anywhere near 1 GB to run.  So much wrong and fail, utterly destroyed by herm kind :lol:

Tessellation

[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="Rage010101"]

lol I remember when tormentos claimed that the os wouldnt take anywhere near 1 GB to run.  So much wrong and fail, utterly destroyed by herm kind :lol:

killzowned24

oh my god, the PS4 reserves 1gb of ram, just like the Wii U, whatever will we do, 7gigs isn't enough clearly

oh my god, the PS4 reserves 1gb of ram, just like the Wii U, whatever will we do, 7gigs isn't enough clearly

HaloinventedFPS

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Another one that thinks the power of the 8gb GDDR5 and its bandwidth will be the saving grace of the PS4. You can have a gpu with a smaller bus with less bandwidth and still outperform a gpu with a wider memory(more bandwidth bus at 1080. 04dcarraher

176 gb/s >>>> 68 gb/s :cool:

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"][QUOTE="clyde46"] I'd never upload uncompressed video, my ISP would have a fit. The reason I use uncompressed is that it gives me the best quality of footage before it goes to Youtube. Let me rustle up some vids that I did, one was compressed with a low bitrate for quick upload and the other was compressed with a higher bitrate for quality purposes.clyde46

Uncompressed is always fine. But, if it's going through YouTube, we all know even the best-quality videos will be mangled by YouTube's conversion process. It's pointless to compare details using YouTube videos. I tried uploading raw FRAPS footage. It's not worth it in upload times and space used. I can't remember the original size of this. But, I remember being distressed at the size of such a short footage and the time to babysit it as the video uploaded.