[QUOTE="RR360DD"]So thats 1GB dedicated to the Sony OS / Sony Kinect rip-off LOLtrollhunter2
didnt ms rip off eyetoy first, or am I missing something here:?
No you're not missing anything. MS fanboys like to pretend the EyeToy never existed.This topic is locked from further discussion.
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Then you have the 6gb Titan and 3gb or 6gb 7970's. Also they can never use more then 4gb for the gpu since the PS4 gpu isnt strong enough make use of the amount of memory to the fullest potential. clyde46
You mean you dont have, because noonw buys 5000$ video cards
Thats funny, last time I checked the GTX680 and the 7970 were selling very well.Selling so well that only .5% of hermits have the 7970 and only 1% have the GTX680
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
:lol:
[QUOTE="AzatiS"]Mooooo !! Ill be a cow this gen it seems !! PS4 seems solid to me and i cant wait to learn more about the system.. When developers praising it its a very good sign. periodloosingENDS
PC people think that anyone cares if PC has more raw power, when they dont have a single game like Deep Down or Agnis to use it
Plus missing all exlusive JRPGs that are my top priority, while PS4 already got Witcher 3 and the only proper Diablo 3 version (offline, direct hero control)
PC gaming is for laughs
Funny fact: xbox 360 Witcher 2 version has like 1000x more next gen lighting than PC version
LOL, PC, LOL LOL
wow your trolling is getting sloppy
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
PC people think that anyone cares if PC has more raw power, when they dont have a single game like Deep Down or Agnis to use it
Plus missing all exlusive JRPGs that are my top priority, while PS4 already got Witcher 3 and the only proper Diablo 3 version (offline, direct hero control)
PC gaming is for laughs
Funny fact: xbox 360 Witcher 2 version has like 1000x more next gen lighting than PC version
LOL, PC, LOL LOL
loosingENDS
Â
Yet Witcher 2 looks best on PC.
If you like knights with armor that glows like a lamp at night and have no next gen proper lighting and shadows, sure
If you like next gen realistic lighting, with actual light source, proper shadows and no glow/bloom, it is only found on xbox 360 version
What are you talking about ? X360 has lower setting plenty of other stuff.
There's nothing next gen about X360, it doesn't even have a actual sun in the Witcher 2.
[QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]
As far as I know, the X720 will be using more RAM for it's OS because of Kinect.
RR360DD
Serious question, did you just pull that out of your ass?.
Were are people getting all these details from about a console with no official acknowledgment as of yet.
People seem to forget the 360 launched with an OS footprint on 32MB compared to the PS3s 120MBlol but 720 is a DVR player first and a game macheine secondÂ
"Microsoft is even rumored to include advanced DVR functionality in the upcoming Xbox 720, which will no doubt require copious amounts of RAM."
Thats funny, last time I checked the GTX680 and the 7970 were selling very well.[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
You mean you dont have, because noonw buys 5000$ video cards
DarthaPerkinjan
Selling so well that only .5% of hermits have the 7970 and only 1% have the GTX680
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
:lol:
Steam is now the official sales report everybody!
[QUOTE="DarthaPerkinjan"]
[QUOTE="clyde46"] Thats funny, last time I checked the GTX680 and the 7970 were selling very well. Bebi_vegeta
Selling so well that only .5% of hermits have the 7970 and only 1% have the GTX680
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
:lol:
Steam is now the official sales report everybody!
Got a better source "oh, they sell better", well other sh*t sells even more. And it's not as if people with powerful hardware don't like to boast about it.I think 8Gb is just right......
I don't see where the problem is.......
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="DarthaPerkinjan"]
Selling so well that only .5% of hermits have the 7970 and only 1% have the GTX680
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
:lol:
SaltyMeatballs
Steam is now the official sales report everybody!
Got a better source "oh, they sell better", well other sh*t sells even more. And it's not as if people with powerful hardware don't like to boast about it.Well maybe if these numbers we're reported by the actual company then some system war fool.
Also, the PS4 is not even out... and there's already a new GPU around the corner from AMD and Nvidia.
Got a better source "oh, they sell better", well other sh*t sells even more. And it's not as if people with powerful hardware don't like to boast about it.[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
Steam is now the official sales report everybody!
Bebi_vegeta
Well maybe if these numbers we're reported by the actual company then some system war fool.
Also, the PS4 is not even out... and there's already a new GPU around the corner from AMD and Nvidia.
Like a new GPU will bring the JRPGs to PC
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
If you like knights with armor that glows like a lamp at night and have no next gen proper lighting and shadows, sure
If you like next gen realistic lighting, with actual light source, proper shadows and no glow/bloom, it is only found on xbox 360 version
loosingENDS
What are you talking about ? X360 has lower setting plenty of other stuff.
There's nothing next gen about X360, it doesn't even have a actual sun in the Witcher 2.
xbox 360 version has next gen lighting, PC has a bloom instead of that
Check it out, it may destroy the little dream world PC gamers live in, but is a fact
Digital Foundry has all the pics to prove it
Next gen lighting ? Yes because X360 has next gen hardware.
Also, can you show me a sun in the X360 version ? I really wonder where the heck they get the lighting source... oh wait it's next gen, don't need no sun.
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] Got a better source "oh, they sell better", well other sh*t sells even more. And it's not as if people with powerful hardware don't like to boast about it.loosingENDS
Well maybe if these numbers we're reported by the actual company then some system war fool.
Also, the PS4 is not even out... and there's already a new GPU around the corner from AMD and Nvidia.
Like a new GPU will bring the JRPGs to PC
Oh, must be a reason why I don't have a console anymore, it must of been because JRPG were so important to my life.
Damage control wont save the day in this situation
PC simply has last gen bloom, something PC people used to laugh at when the first launch console games used it back in 2005
Xbox 360 has next gen proper lighting, a light source and proper shadows on charatcers, that also DO NOT GLOW !!! LOL
PC is laughable, that is all
loosingENDS
Your in so much denial :lol:
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
xbox 360 version has next gen lighting, PC has a bloom instead of that
Check it out, it may destroy the little dream world PC gamers live in, but is a fact
Digital Foundry has all the pics to prove it
loosingENDS
Next gen lighting ? Yes because X360 has next gen hardware.
Also, can you show me a sun in the X360 version ? I really wonder where the heck they get the lighting source... oh wait it's next gen, don't need no sun.
Damage control wont save the day in this situation
PC simply has last gen bloom, something PC people used to laugh at when the first launch console games used it back in 2005
Xbox 360 has next gen proper lighting, a light source and proper shadows on charatcers, that also DO NOT GLOW !!! LOL
PC is laughable, that is all
I see you stopped using the crappy dragon on the bridge comparisonÂ
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
Damage control wont save the day in this situation
PC simply has last gen bloom, something PC people used to laugh at when the first launch console games used it back in 2005
Xbox 360 has next gen proper lighting, a light source and proper shadows on charatcers, that also DO NOT GLOW !!! LOL
PC is laughable, that is all
04dcarraher
Your in so much denial :lol:
I can say the same for the PC gamers that now say bloom and crappy lighting is "better", because Witcher 2 lighing on PC is garbage comparing to xbox 360 version
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
Damage control wont save the day in this situation
PC simply has last gen bloom, something PC people used to laugh at when the first launch console games used it back in 2005
Xbox 360 has next gen proper lighting, a light source and proper shadows on charatcers, that also DO NOT GLOW !!! LOL
PC is laughable, that is all
loosingENDS
Your in so much denial :lol:
I can say the same for the PC gamers that now say bloom and crappy lighting is "better", because Witcher 2 lighing on PC is garbage comparing to xbox 360 version
:lol: just ignore EE version/patch on PC using 100x better graphics and lighting then 360[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
Damage control wont save the day in this situation
PC simply has last gen bloom, something PC people used to laugh at when the first launch console games used it back in 2005
Xbox 360 has next gen proper lighting, a light source and proper shadows on charatcers, that also DO NOT GLOW !!! LOL
PC is laughable, that is all
loosingENDS
Your in so much denial :lol:
I can say the same for the PC gamers that now say bloom and crappy lighting is "better", because Witcher 2 lighing on PC is garbage comparing to xbox 360 version
But the PC version looks better
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
Speculation by fanboys said devs had a lower allocation, good to hear I suppose. That's what the Wii U OS is using, about 1GB of RAM. I'm sure the 720 will use about the same.
Looking forward to seeing more games.
Blazerdt47
As far as I know, the X720 will be using more RAM for it's OS because of Kinect.
probably not, xbox used 30mb, and supported quite a bit in game, Maybe windoze has gotten a bit bloated because of all the preloaded applications and drivers but M$ is really the only ones that know what they are doing when building an OS.[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
What are you talking about ? X360 has lower setting plenty of other stuff.
There's nothing next gen about X360, it doesn't even have a actual sun in the Witcher 2.
Bebi_vegeta
xbox 360 version has next gen lighting, PC has a bloom instead of that
Check it out, it may destroy the little dream world PC gamers live in, but is a fact
Digital Foundry has all the pics to prove it
Next gen lighting ? Yes because X360 has next gen hardware.
Also, can you show me a sun in the X360 version ? I really wonder where the heck they get the lighting source... oh wait it's next gen, don't need no sun.
lmao next gen lighting,but it got low re textures,lower framerate,lower resolution etc,horrible AA and AF.[QUOTE="loosingENDS"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]
Your in so much denial :lol:
04dcarraher
I can say the same for the PC gamers that now say bloom and crappy lighting is "better", because Witcher 2 lighing on PC is garbage comparing to xbox 360 version
:lol: just ignore EE version/patch on PC using 100x better graphics and lighting then 360LOL, you are funny
The "EE version" with the "100x better graphics" are just in your imagination
In real world, Witcher 2 on xbox 360 has next gen lighting and not crappy bloom and lack of light and shadow like on PC, and is directly proven by the actual real world (you know, the one not in your imagination) pics in Digital Foundry article
now go on tell us about your fantasies of some "better" Withcer 2 version on PC
[QUOTE="AzatiS"]Mooooo !! Ill be a cow this gen it seems !! PS4 seems solid to me and i cant wait to learn more about the system.. When developers praising it its a very good sign. periodloosingENDS
PC people think that anyone cares if PC has more raw power, when they dont have a single game like Deep Down or Agnis to use it
Plus missing all exlusive JRPGs that are my top priority, while PS4 already got Witcher 3 and the only proper Diablo 3 version (offline, direct hero control)
PC gaming is for laughs
Funny fact: xbox 360 Witcher 2 version has like 1000x more next gen lighting than PC version
LOL, PC, LOL LOL
Bro , you talking to a hermit....lol:lol: just ignore EE version/patch on PC using 100x better graphics and lighting then 360[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
I can say the same for the PC gamers that now say bloom and crappy lighting is "better", because Witcher 2 lighing on PC is garbage comparing to xbox 360 version
loosingENDS
LOL, you are funny
The "EE version" with the "100x better graphics" are just in your imagination
In real world, Witcher 2 on xbox 360 has next gen lighting and not crappy bloom and lack of light and shadow like on PC, and is directly proven by the actual real world (you know, the one not in your imagination) pics in Digital Foundry article
now go on tell us about your fantasies of some "better" Withcer 2 version on PC
Someone dig up that screenshot from the email someone sent to a CDProjektRed dev saying the PC version was also updated with the same stuff as the 360 port.[QUOTE="lostrib"]
Â
But the PC version looks better
loosingENDS
If you like garbage last gen bloom and lighting, without actual light source and shadows, sure PC is "better"
For the next gen lighting, there is only the xbox 360 version though
I though PC gamers liked next gen lighting and not garbage bloom, seems this is not the case
Find me proof that only the 360 version has next gen lightning.Keep in mind some of that will be needed for GPU (around 1-2GB), stuff that on PC system RAM does not land7 GB is easily enough for games. Â 4 GB would've been fine.
PC_Otter
Your and idiot an on denial butthurt hermit...:lol: Streaming video is a background task on PS4 and is transparent period,the OS and System use 1GB incredibly far from the 4GB or more you actually claimed,you were owned and now you are trying to desperately held to streaming as something that will run outside the OS and system memory which is completely stupid and idiotic. My 512MB claim many times was fallow by 1 or even 1.5 tops claim,unlike you who dare claim once the PS4 would have as little as 2Gb for video,you are a butthurt Hermit you were owned big time.. 7GB for the PS4,1GB for system and OS,this thread owned many Hermits...Streaming and video recording is not normal background tasks, and how about your 512mb OS claim :lol:
04dcarraher
[QUOTE="lostrib"]
Â
But the PC version looks better
loosingENDS
If you like garbage last gen bloom and lighting, without actual light source and shadows, sure PC is "better"
For the next gen lighting, there is only the xbox 360 version though
I though PC gamers liked next gen lighting and not garbage bloom, seems this is not the case
Â
Someone dig up that screenshot from the email someone sent to a CDProjektRed dev saying the PC version was also updated with the same stuff as the 360 port. clyde46
And back to reality, there is no such thing, PC never got the new lighting as Digital Foundry clearly confirmed in their last paragraph in the article
PC did get updated with the new stuff of Enchanced Edition, BESIDES the new lighting though, because that would mean changing the whole PC engine and they simply did not do it
Except it looks better
Find me proof that only the 360 version has next gen lightning.[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
If you like garbage last gen bloom and lighting, without actual light source and shadows, sure PC is "better"
For the next gen lighting, there is only the xbox 360 version though
I though PC gamers liked next gen lighting and not garbage bloom, seems this is not the case
loosingENDS
Denial is a strong force
Digital Foundry confirmed the ENCHANCED PC version they played DID NOT have the new xbox 360 lighting
"Update:We've now updatedour PC build of The Witcher 2 and note that many of the 360 enhancements - specifically pad support, lighting and visuals - appear to be unchanged"
Anything else ?
AWW someone's in denial that Pc version didnt get the same enhancements. and that review was non EE Pc version vs 360 EE version And they state PC version is overall much better looking[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] AWW someone's in denial that Pc version didnt get the same enhancements. and that review was non EE Pc version vs 360 EE version And they state PC version is overall much better lookinglostrib
After they updated, they had the EE PC version obviously, did you even read what i posted above ?
look at that next gen lighting:
it's so next gen, it doesnt need shadows
vs
[QUOTE="lostrib"]
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
After they updated, they had the EE PC version obviously, did you even read what i posted above ?
loosingENDS
look at that next gen lighting:
it's so next gen, it doesnt need shadows
Obviously you dont know what shadow is, because i clearly see shadows
And without the horrible dithering of PC version LOL
and now you're just lying. None of the battlements/crenellations on the bridge have shadows
[QUOTE="lostrib"]
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
After they updated, they had the EE PC version obviously, did you even read what i posted above ?
loosingENDS
look at that next gen lighting:
it's so next gen, it doesnt need shadows
Obviously you dont know what shadow is, because i clearly see shadows
DENIAL! :lol: 2d tree with no shadow, worse textures,... missing shadows namely on the walkway WTF....lo Sytem and OS cocer background task like streaming,what the hell run background task on pc? Oh yeah is the OS windows,so if windows require 2gb that include background task. You were owned big time since you claim many times that most of the RAM would be for OS and features.lol[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] They however never state how much memory will be allocated for streaming/recording. So if background tasks and OS is allocating 1gb I would think along with the other features 2-3gb might be typical usage with all features +OS. So 5-6 gb will be for the game cache and video.
04dcarraher
Streaming and video recording is not background , and how about your 512mb OS claim :lol:
lol the funny thing is that they are using this sketchy website made up rumor as a fact... :lol:,they claimed PS3 GPU was 400gflops,made rumors about the PS4 CPU that was running over 2.0ghz etc..DENIAL! :lol: 2d tree with no shadow, worse textures,... missing shadows namely on the walkway[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
Obviously you dont know what shadow is, because i clearly see shadows
loosingENDS
The removed some of the dithered terrible and laughable PC shadows and let less with vastly better quality
It is just a trade off and i prefer it that way TBH, who wants many terrible looking shadows ? (only PC gamers i guess, that also love bloom than next gen lighting)
Â
Plus is all kinds of funny that we moved to new pics, since the pics i posted look 1000x more next gen than PC
LOL, so much (crappy) damage control
Worse lighting. Confirmed by LoosingEnds himself!
Since you say most don't know I will post this which comes from cryteks lead graphics programmer.[QUOTE="SuddenlySudden"]No one gives a shit in 3...2...1.... Most of you have no idea what RAM does for gaming in 3....2....1 Some of you probably think there's an actual live mini Ram in your ps3 on a treadmill in 3....2....1killzowned24
[QUOTE="Tessellation"] such a butthurt comeback :cool: pointing out your sketchy source is hurting you,now cry some more.tormentosAny minute now.... Just wait they will save you...:lol: That way you could stop pretending that 1 you know something about PC and graphics,and 2 than you are a Hermit which you are not. look my comment causing you a suppository effect up your ass again :cool: not my fault you can't afford a proper PC to game on,what would cows know about PC you have low IQ :cool: poor eltormo going off-topic when he gets owned :cool:
why are people surprised that an OS is taking up ram........stereointegrity
Because it is a console and the OS should be minimal
That 1GB is probably also including space for caching videos etc
[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]why are people surprised that an OS is taking up ram........loosingENDS
Because it is a console and the OS should be minimal
That 1GB is probably also including space for caching videos etc
If the so secondary "security/media co-processor" actually exists in the PS4, it could possibly record and encode in realtime, keeping the memory footprint in RAM and on the HDD manageable. Lord knows what FRAPS does to PCs as you scale the quality and recordable FPS up.[QUOTE="loosingENDS"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]why are people surprised that an OS is taking up ram........PC_Otter
Because it is a console and the OS should be minimal
That 1GB is probably also including space for caching videos etc
If the so secondary "security/media co-processor" actually exists in the PS4, it could possibly record and encode in realtime, keeping the memory footprint in RAM and on the HDD manageable. Lord knows what FRAPS does to PCs as you scale the quality and recordable FPS up.I think PS4 implementation will be nothing like FRAPS that has to conform to what the OS allows for getting the stream
Probably the PS4 one will be close to free, otherwise would make no sense at all to have such a feature that noone would care about and yet compromise the quality of every game
Just makes zero sense, unless Sony people escaped from a nut house
[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]
Anyone able to explain this in English? i dont get dis nerdy shit :(
is this good or bad? :o
lostrib
There's lots of RAM for games, but some people think 1GB of RAM is too much for the OS
i'll assume its a good thing lol
Fraps is a terrible fvcking standard, i'm pretty sure whatever the ps4 has planned won't half your framerate when you record.
Fraps is a terrible fvcking standard, i'm pretty sure whatever the ps4 has planned won't half your framerate when you record.
ReadingRainbow4
Obviously will be near free on PS4, otherwise would be crazy to have such a useless feature make games 1000x worse looking
Unless Sony guys escaped from a crazy asylum
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