Digital Foundry article on the 6GB requirements. Mostly poitning out stuff we already knew, but some new stuff:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-eyes-on-with-pc-shadow-of-mordors-6gb-textures
"PS4 is basically a match for the high quality setting on PC, which requires a graphics card with 3GB of RAM for best performance. Ultra is a small improvement over high based on the quality of the ground texture here, while medium looks a little blurry."
That's interesting. Having tested the medium and high textures, it didn't look that blurry on my TV, even in borderless mode (stupid v-sync). But interesting to find out the PS4 is running on high textures. Making use of that shared memory pool i guess.
Still, that's for textures. The rest is most likely pulling the "1 setting bellow max on pc" thing. But cool none the less
"One thing we should point out is that it is perfectly possible to run higher-quality artwork on lower-capacity graphics cards. However, you quickly fall foul of the split-memory architecture of the PC. On Xbox One and PS4, the available memory is unified in one address space, meaning instant access to everything. On PC, memory is typically split between system DDR3, and the graphics card's onboard GDDR5. Running high or ultra graphics on a 2GB card sees artwork swapping between the two memory pools, creating stutter. Shadow of Mordor has an optional 30fps cap incorporated into its options, though - with a 2GB GTX 760, we could run the game at ultra settings with high quality textures and frame-rate was pretty much locked at the target 30fps with only very minor stutter. In short, there's a way forward for those using 2GB cards, but it does involve locking frame-rate at the console standard - and the ultra textures didn't play nicely with the card, even at 30fps."
Hm, looks like games might actually start ass pulling 3GB for textures from now on. Seems stupid to me. So far, Wash Doge and SoM (TF too? Don't remember that one) only use them for texture quality.
So, we have to run those bellow but can max others out. Ironically, i have a 2GB 760 too. I was getting around 46fps with those setting (fucking v-sync). I capped it at 30, but will see about 60fps today. Stutering was mostly absent, specially compared to WD.
So, brute GPU power is still more important, btu VRAM requirement might annoyingly go up from now on. Still, just the textures alone is fine with me.
I find the 6GB vram rumor to be bs though.
To even get the game to max out my vRAM of 4GB I had to go above 4k resolution with max settings and ultra textures.
4k resolution was still using less than 4GB of vRAM but 5120x2880 actually used all of my vRAM.
At 1440p max settings with ultra textures I was getting over 90+fps. So I ran the game at higher settings than the PS4 with almost twice the pixel count and almost 3x the frame rate.
I think the console versions don't even use tessellation.
Also here is a screenshot comparison between high and ultra textures.
High is the first screenshot and Ultra is the second.
View them in a separate tab for better quality.
PS4 runs at 30+?? +?? IS that a thing now?
Dat next gen feel of almost 60 FPS except not really, cause it's more liek 35 FPS.
LOL!
Which is better than what the majority of PC gamers can play it at..
You know 1080p is good enough and 30 FPS as well when your card doesn't have more in the tank,since not every one on PC has a set up like you it make your argument null not all PC can run it even close to your set up..
I find the 6GB vram rumor to be bs though.
To even get the game to max out my vRAM of 4GB I had to go above 4k resolution with max settings and ultra textures.
4k resolution was still using less than 4GB of vRAM but 5120x2880 actually used all of my vRAM.
At 1440p max settings with ultra textures I was getting over 90+fps. So I ran the game at higher settings than the PS4 with almost twice the pixel count and almost 3x the frame rate.
I think the console versions don't even use tessellation.
Also here is a screenshot comparison between high and ultra textures.
High is the first screenshot and Ultra is the second.
View them in a separate tab for better quality.
Once again you have a SLI set up dude.
Indeed, it's actually the compromises made to accommodate 2GB graphics cards that are more concerning. The game still looks good, but in certain areas, console is a cut above - unless you kick in the frame-rate limiter. We saw a similar story with Titanfall: Respawn's debut required a 3GB graphics card to match the texture quality found in the Xbox One version of the game. That being the case, the recent discounts found on the 3GB Radeon R9 280 start to look compelling, especially as its replacement, the R9 285, only has 2GB of RAM in its standard configuration.
I find that funny because there is a barrage of cards out there more powerful than the PS4 but which had 2GB of ram and are suffering because of the lack of ram.
Ram will hit hard 2 Gb GPU the more the generation goes on,on 2017 those 2GB cards will be screaming..
I call it long time ago.
@tormentos:
Rumor still?
That OP title.....
And.?
For the 10 time this isn't an anti xbox one thread.
lol such BS.... My poor 2gb video card is pulling at 1080p 60+ fps on ultra settings with high textures with Mordor, with Ultra textures it was around 50 fps... , and Titanfall's Vram requirement is also BS since gtx 650ti 2b can get nearly 60 fps average and even a 1gb GTX 750 is able to average 50 fps.... Whats the point of have 3gb of vram for either console gpu when they dont even have the power to use all the bells and whistles.
Let see who do we believe DF and the own fu**ing maker of the game or a blind biased sony hater who can't admit been wrong...
What poor video card.? i hope you are not talking about that sh** 560Ti...lol
You were owned on this topic already butthurt hermit...
I know sony make you mad because you had to upgrade on 2013 when you already upgraded on 2011 but is time to let it go...lol
Not 1 but 2 GPU on that chart which have 2 versions 1 with 1 GB and one with 2 in both cases in Skyrim memory was a freaking bottleneck PROVEN and by as much as 31 FPS on the same GPU that is sad.
Basically that is a way for GPU makers to hold performance back on GPU and force you to upgrade.
on ultra settings on a gtx 970 the memory usage sits at about 2970 meg. i also have an r9 280x but i haven't tried the game on it. i'm willing to try if its helpful. steam family sharing --> would be easy to bench.
lol such BS.... My poor 2gb video card is pulling at 1080p 60+ fps on ultra settings with high textures with Mordor, with Ultra textures it was around 50 fps... , and Titanfall's Vram requirement is also BS since gtx 650ti 2b can get nearly 60 fps average and even a 1gb GTX 750 is able to average 50 fps.... Whats the point of have 3gb of vram for either console gpu when they dont even have the power to use all the bells and whistles.
Let see who do we believe DF and the own fu**ing maker of the game or a blind biased sony hater who can't admit been wrong...
What poor video card.? i hope you are not talking about that sh** 560Ti...lol
You were owned on this topic already butthurt hermit...
I know sony make you mad because you had to upgrade on 2013 when you already upgraded on 2011 but is time to let it go...lol
Not 1 but 2 GPU on that chart which have 2 versions 1 with 1 GB and one with 2 in both cases in Skyrim memory was a freaking bottleneck PROVEN and by as much as 31 FPS on the same GPU that is sad.
Basically that is a way for GPU makers to hold performance back on GPU and force you to upgrade.
lol your in a big state of denial..... your the one who's is butt hurt..... its funny is because that 560 handled skyim on ultra just fine so sad for your long ass loading times and worse graphics and broken DLC on PS3.... Its funny because you act like upgrading is a bad thing.... And no 2gb does not hold you back at 1080 lol but the piss poor gpu in the X1 and mediocre gpu in PS4 do.... Its funny because GTX 760 averages 65 fps all on ultra with high textures explain that when your precious PS4 that uses between 2-3gb for vram with only 30 fps and not even using all the graphical features. How sad you need help. Here are some real benchmarks for skyrim that are newer then that out of date crap you keep on spewing as proof.
lol such BS.... My poor 2gb video card is pulling at 1080p 60+ fps on ultra settings with high textures with Mordor, with Ultra textures it was around 50 fps... , and Titanfall's Vram requirement is also BS since gtx 650ti 2b can get nearly 60 fps average and even a 1gb GTX 750 is able to average 50 fps.... Whats the point of have 3gb of vram for either console gpu when they dont even have the power to use all the bells and whistles.
Let see who do we believe DF and the own fu**ing maker of the game or a blind biased sony hater who can't admit been wrong...
What poor video card.? i hope you are not talking about that sh** 560Ti...lol
You were owned on this topic already butthurt hermit...
I know sony make you mad because you had to upgrade on 2013 when you already upgraded on 2011 but is time to let it go...lol
Not 1 but 2 GPU on that chart which have 2 versions 1 with 1 GB and one with 2 in both cases in Skyrim memory was a freaking bottleneck PROVEN and by as much as 31 FPS on the same GPU that is sad.
Basically that is a way for GPU makers to hold performance back on GPU and force you to upgrade.
Show me another game that does that and is not a broken, buggy mess.
GTX 760 with Mordor's benchmark tool Vram usage maxed 1998mb, Ultra settings, with high textures at 1080p.
GTX 760 with Mordor's benchmark tool Vram usage maxed 1998mb, Ultra settings, with high textures at 1080p.
Digital Foundry has been proven wrong so many times lately that their credibility has long since gone out the window. Though 2 GB vram could become a problem for upcoming games on high settings even at 1080p but it's unlikely that the next-gen consoles can run any of those games at high settings (or without other compromises) due to their lack of power.
GTX 760 with Mordor's benchmark tool Vram usage maxed 1998mb, Ultra settings, with high textures at 1080p.
You are an idiot if you have 2Gb of ram how the fu** will the game use more than 2.? The game will not allocate more than your card has it will simple switch textures in and out constantly,which cause stutter and pop in since the textures have to constantly be swap in and out of the memory.
It was already posted here.
2700mb on high but hes card has more ram than a 670GTX which has 2GB,it when actually higher than 2700mb.
Digital Foundry has been proven wrong so many times lately that their credibility has long since gone out the window. Though 2 GB vram could become a problem for upcoming games on high settings even at 1080p but it's unlikely that the next-gen consoles can run any of those games at high settings (or without other compromises) due to their lack of power.
DF wasn't proven wrong you sad butthurt fanboy,if your card is 2GB the game will not allocate more than 2Gb how the fu** it would.? that 670GTX is 2GB so the max it will use is 2GB,which is what his test is showing,instead what the game will do is swap textures in and out constantly because it doesn't have the need it amount which is why DF say it cause stutter do you see that screen i posted that is high on a 4GB GPU,since the GPU has more than 2Gb the game allocate more than 2GB but as you can see it doesn't reach 3GB it stay close to 3Gb tho.
@deadline-zero0
What? Dude
PS4:
1080p, High settings, High texture quality, 30fps (Maybe, we're still waiting for confirmation)
PC with 2GB VRAM GPU, mid performance model:
1080p, Ultra settings, High texture quality, 30fps (capped). Potential stuttering may occur from time to time
Like i said, so far, only textures require higher VRAM. Everything else is just like normal. If the trend continues, just tone down the textures for 2GB, if it's that bad. It's not like one needs to go "PC MASTER RACE I WILL NOT PLAY BELOW CONSOLES!". It sucks, but it's easy to fix.
Also, if the PS4 is indeed 30+, all we need to do it is have mid range pcs set to console settings, and compare frame rates on both. I bet the PS3 jumps around 30-40 (maybe 45) and pcs go around 50-60fps.
And let's not forget there's 1440p resolution. I don't have that display, but who knows if it's possible to cap it 30fps with everything on ultra with 2GB 670, 760, 770, etc. If somebody wants to give those benchmarks, i'd be thankfull
Yeah the setting are ultra because the GPU had extra power over the PS4 GPU,but is it ultra when the textures have to be on high.?
That is console like trade in,so is capping the game at 30 and still get stutter when the PS4 version is uncap and doesn't show this stutter.
1440 will consume allot higher memory than 1080p so that would only worsen the stutter problem,considering that you get stutter still even when cap.
GTX 760 with Mordor's benchmark tool Vram usage maxed 1998mb, Ultra settings, with high textures at 1080p.
You are an idiot if you have 2Gb of ram how the fu** will the game use more than 2.? The game will not allocate more than your card has it will simple switch textures in and out constantly,which cause stutter and pop in since the textures have to constantly be swap in and out of the memory.
It was already posted here.
2700mb on high but hes card has more ram than a 670GTX which has 2GB,it when actually higher than 2700mb.
You really have no clue about hardware works do you? Games will automatically adjust the data transfer to match the amount of vram you have. "switch textures in and out constantly,which cause stutter and pop in" this quote total bull shit right here, There is a difference in reserving memory and and actually being used. switching out data on memory is normal for all gpu's, and it does not cause stutter if you have enough system memory and harddrive is not being bogged down. Where in the hell are you getting this pop-in idea ? O wait I know where DF's unimpressive review, There are reports all over the world showing that strong 2gb cards are able run the game without issue. Monolith claimed that 3GB of VRAM is required for High settings, however that was nothing more than an exaggeration. get that through your head.
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