Rumor.Shadow of Mordor 720p 30FPS on XBO.?

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#251  Edited By darkangel115
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@tormentos said:

@darkangel115 said:

Dude i already proved you wrong in regards to upscaling, I already proved that a TV does do upscaling to 4k, now your damage controlling my TV before i even post a picture lol man you are an assclown. I've also been watching upscaled 4k content for months now and it doesn't look blurry at all. Looks much better then my 1080p TV i used to have for gaming. and you'll be able to tell its not in a best buy, come on man, now you just sound desperate

No you proved that a samsung 4K tv upscale the image.

Not all TV's do that i have 2 1080p and they don't neither,upscale is basically blowing up pixels to fit a target resolution,the simple fact that you don't even know this totally prove that you know sh** about this or that you own that TV.

GTFO with your fake TV still waiting for the screen..lol

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#252 StormyJoe
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@GoldenElementXL said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

@StormyJoe said:

But... both versions of SoM are 1080p/30fps. That's parity. Granted the PS4's frame rate is unlocked, but it's certainly not performing at 60fps.

We don't even know if SoM is 1080p outside of GS' word for it. Waiting for them other sources.

Agreed. While more reliable than a rumor, we need to wait for DF. Remember the IGN Call of Duty Ghosts fiasco? I could see Gamespot doing something like that.

Soooo GameSpot is not a credible source now?

Wow.

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#253  Edited By tormentos
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@GoldenElementXL said:

1 - You completely missed the meaning of my post in the first quote. This thread was made based on a rumor. That rumor was first proven wrong a few days ago when people with the ability to count pixels began saying it was running at 900p. Thread over. But you didn't change the title then. Now Gamespot says the game runs at 1080p after a patch. Your rumor thread has then been obliterated.

I never said this was a flame thread. And I never said you were making fun of the Xbox One. Find a quote. I NEVER said any of those things. My issue was with you making a thread based on a rumor and calling devs lazy along the way. None of those things were ever based on facts. You don't see anything wrong with that?

2 - Now for the 2nd quote. The 4th sentence in that quote clearly states that I know native resolution is much better than an unscaled image.

This is an honest question. Can you read? If so, do you have problems with reading comprehension? Because you are not debating with me in your posts. You can't be. Because I am not saying the things you are defending.

Why would i change the name of the thread..? Was |Drive Club down grade.? No

Then why don't you go to B4X thread na demand the tittle to be change.? see is this kind of hypocrite moves which you make toward cow what make you a biased ass lemming,change the title on your threads not mine.

The rumor was prove wrong the thread will remain the same the thread wasn't a flame thread get over it.

@StormyJoe said:

But... both versions of SoM are 1080p/30fps. That's parity. Granted the PS4's frame rate is unlocked, but it's certainly not performing at 60fps.

If the PS4 is running at 40 or 50 frames how is that parity.?

Parity means equality to be the same not close.

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#254  Edited By tormentos
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@softwaregeek said:

They are assuming the "guess work" is always wrong. When in fact it may be correct enough to improve the image. A pixel can't be stretched. It's of fixed size on you screen. to stretch a pixel would be to actually stretch your monitor. When you resize an image, you are stretching it. some tools have an algorithm that will redraw the image instead of just stretching it. The correct way to think about up-scaling is to think of it as redrawing as opposed to taking a picture and actually stretching it. When you zoom into an image, and you notice a decrease in image fidelity, that's because the image is being stretched. The detail that was only taking up a few pixels is taking up a dozen pixels and the result is a loss in fidelity. Zooming and up-scaling are not the same thing.

This is why we're not seeing a huge diff on image fidelity for Mordor. The x1 upscaling is doing it's job very well.

The xbox one version is not 1080p upscale is native you buffoon,see you people are morons stop arguing sh** you don't understand..lol

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#255 GrenadeLauncher
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@StormyJoe said:

Soooo GameSpot is not a credible source now?

Wow.

Gamespot is currently the single source, and in the last two days has 1) got the platforms Drive Club is on wrong and 2) given Alien Isolation a mediocre score.

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#256 B4X
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This thread is PROOF that no one in here should ever talk about graphic comparisons.

Ass. I would like you to meet my friend hole in the ground.

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@b4x said:

This thread is PROOF that no one in here should ever talk about graphic comparisons.

Ass. I would like you to meet my friend hole in the ground.

Please jump in.

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#258 SoftwareGeek
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@tormentos said:

@softwaregeek said:

They are assuming the "guess work" is always wrong. When in fact it may be correct enough to improve the image. A pixel can't be stretched. It's of fixed size on you screen. to stretch a pixel would be to actually stretch your monitor. When you resize an image, you are stretching it. some tools have an algorithm that will redraw the image instead of just stretching it. The correct way to think about up-scaling is to think of it as redrawing as opposed to taking a picture and actually stretching it. When you zoom into an image, and you notice a decrease in image fidelity, that's because the image is being stretched. The detail that was only taking up a few pixels is taking up a dozen pixels and the result is a loss in fidelity. Zooming and up-scaling are not the same thing.

This is why we're not seeing a huge diff on image fidelity for Mordor. The x1 upscaling is doing it's job very well.

The xbox one version is not 1080p upscale is native you buffoon,see you people are morons stop arguing sh** you don't understand..lol

well feel free to correct me if i'm wrong. but nobody is taking their 1080p tv and setting it to 720p to play mordor. so there's that.

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#259 SoftwareGeek
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oh tormo, all the "extra powah" and the game looks no different on the ps4 than the x1. hehe. you don't really have the handle on technology that you think you do. but I enjoy your remarks. They're always good for a laugh or two.

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#260 blackace
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Game looks pretty much the same.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/10/02/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-ps4-xbox-one-and-pc-graphics-comparison

No major differences.

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@tormentos said:

@GoldenElementXL said:

1 - You completely missed the meaning of my post in the first quote. This thread was made based on a rumor. That rumor was first proven wrong a few days ago when people with the ability to count pixels began saying it was running at 900p. Thread over. But you didn't change the title then. Now Gamespot says the game runs at 1080p after a patch. Your rumor thread has then been obliterated.

I never said this was a flame thread. And I never said you were making fun of the Xbox One. Find a quote. I NEVER said any of those things. My issue was with you making a thread based on a rumor and calling devs lazy along the way. None of those things were ever based on facts. You don't see anything wrong with that?

2 - Now for the 2nd quote. The 4th sentence in that quote clearly states that I know native resolution is much better than an unscaled image.

This is an honest question. Can you read? If so, do you have problems with reading comprehension? Because you are not debating with me in your posts. You can't be. Because I am not saying the things you are defending.

Why would i change the name of the thread..? Was |Drive Club down grade.? No

Then why don't you go to B4X thread na demand the tittle to be change.? see is this kind of hypocrite moves which you make toward cow what make you a biased ass lemming,change the title on your threads not mine.

The rumor was prove wrong the thread will remain the same the thread wasn't a flame thread get over it.

@StormyJoe said:

But... both versions of SoM are 1080p/30fps. That's parity. Granted the PS4's frame rate is unlocked, but it's certainly not performing at 60fps.

If the PS4 is running at 40 or 50 frames how is that parity.?

Parity means equality to be the same not close.

Link showing that is the case? All the articles I have read shows that it runs around 30fps.

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@blackace said:

Game looks pretty much the same.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/10/02/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-ps4-xbox-one-and-pc-graphics-comparison

No major differences.

New GIF profile pic.Nice.


Also,Compression.I'll wait for DF to bring us out of this time of ignorance and provide us with uncompressed video comparisons.

You should too

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#263 tormentos
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@softwaregeek said:

well feel free to correct me if i'm wrong. but nobody is taking their 1080p tv and setting it to 720p to play mordor. so there's that.

WTF does that even mean..hahhaaaaaaaaaaaa

@StormyJoe said:

Link showing that is the case? All the articles I have read shows that it runs around 30fps.

Yeah what article did it say 30 locked.? I hope is not gamespot one because on neogaf there is people still saying that gamespot know sh** and that the game has been seeing running in 900p tomorrow we will know for sure.

But all it has been say until now say 30+ unlock so yeah it overs over 30 which the xbox one version from all i have read doesn't do.

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#264 tormentos
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Loading Video...

PS4 textures are comparable to High on PC which is odd since my R270 on high stutter to hell and freezes average like 40 with huge drops...

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#265 SoftwareGeek
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http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/10/02/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-ps4-xbox-one-and-pc-graphics-comparison

they look the same.

buh buh buh the POWAH of the ps4 is more...lolols.

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#266  Edited By StormyJoe
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@tormentos said:

@softwaregeek said:

well feel free to correct me if i'm wrong. but nobody is taking their 1080p tv and setting it to 720p to play mordor. so there's that.

WTF does that even mean..hahhaaaaaaaaaaaa

@StormyJoe said:

Link showing that is the case? All the articles I have read shows that it runs around 30fps.

Yeah what article did it say 30 locked.? I hope is not gamespot one because on neogaf there is people still saying that gamespot know sh** and that the game has been seeing running in 900p tomorrow we will know for sure.

But all it has been say until now say 30+ unlock so yeah it overs over 30 which the xbox one version from all i have read doesn't do.

None. But, all the articles I have read say the PS4 version rarely goes above 30fps.

Wait, NeoGAF is cool with you again? Then, what about all the posts about "eventually parity" between the PS4 and XBox One? Or, is it a case where NeoGaf is credible when the forum agrees with you?

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@StormyJoe said:

None. But, all the articles I have read say the PS4 version rarely goes above 30fps.

Wait, NeoGAF is cool with you again? Then, what about all the posts about "eventually parity" between the PS4 and XBox One? Or, is it a case where NeoGaf is credible when the forum agrees with you?

What Neogaf is the place where most post about not been parity there is,where the fu** are you getting that sh** from.? Even Cboat stated the xbox one would get more 1080p game not that there would be parity please link me to those..

The game was pixel counted as 900p does gamespot pixel count games now.?

I am not saying is not 1080p but the only source i have see calling it 1080p is gamespot and people on neogaf are still holding to 900p.

The game could be 1080p 30 on both consoles still doesn't mean parity was achieve holding back one isn't parity.

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@StormyJoe said:

@GoldenElementXL said:

Agreed. While more reliable than a rumor, we need to wait for DF. Remember the IGN Call of Duty Ghosts fiasco? I could see Gamespot doing something like that.

Soooo GameSpot is not a credible source now?

Wow.

I'm not saying Gamespot is not credible. I just don't know if we can take them for their word when it comes to resolution.

In my IGN example, COD Ghosts was called 1080p native on PS4. They claimed the difference was obvious when comparing the 2 versions. Days later it was discovered that the PS4 version was in fact 900p and would be 1080p at launch via a patch. The XB1 screens they used in the comparison were using color blind mode. This is an example of a site that really doesn't do this "Tech Analysis" stuff and it showed with their crap comparisons and bad eyes when it comes to "The difference in resolution is obvious." (obviously the power of suggestion) They later apologized in a round about way for the misinformation.

So in my opinion we should let sites that do this stuff, like DF give us this information.

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The games graphics look pretty mediocre on all platforms, so who cares.

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@tormentos said:

PS4 textures are comparable to High on PC which is odd since my R270 on high stutter to hell and freezes average like 40 with huge drops...

SoM is a Nvidia sponsored game. AMD gpu's will run it worse until AMD releases a driver update for it, and or they patch the game.

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#271  Edited By StormyJoe
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@tormentos said:

@StormyJoe said:

None. But, all the articles I have read say the PS4 version rarely goes above 30fps.

Wait, NeoGAF is cool with you again? Then, what about all the posts about "eventually parity" between the PS4 and XBox One? Or, is it a case where NeoGaf is credible when the forum agrees with you?

What Neogaf is the place where most post about not been parity there is,where the fu** are you getting that sh** from.? Even Cboat stated the xbox one would get more 1080p game not that there would be parity please link me to those..

The game was pixel counted as 900p does gamespot pixel count games now.?

I am not saying is not 1080p but the only source i have see calling it 1080p is gamespot and people on neogaf are still holding to 900p.

The game could be 1080p 30 on both consoles still doesn't mean parity was achieve holding back one isn't parity.

Your own links back in the day said that, from CBOAT. He said over time the XB1 would catch up. Don't go all "selective memory" on me now.

Parity is parity. If both games are at 1080p and run at similar frame rates, they are on par with each other. Your "oh, that's because the PS4 is being held back" is weak sauce bullsh*t.

Also, you are saying the PS4 version looks better (1080p) than the XBox One version (900p - so you say). I challenge that statement. You have videos available to you from IGN and GameSpot (and probably 100s more). Please provide screen shots of SoM that demonstrate this difference in visuals between the two consoles.

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@tormentos said:

@GoldenElementXL said:

1 - You completely missed the meaning of my post in the first quote. This thread was made based on a rumor. That rumor was first proven wrong a few days ago when people with the ability to count pixels began saying it was running at 900p. Thread over. But you didn't change the title then. Now Gamespot says the game runs at 1080p after a patch. Your rumor thread has then been obliterated.

I never said this was a flame thread. And I never said you were making fun of the Xbox One. Find a quote. I NEVER said any of those things. My issue was with you making a thread based on a rumor and calling devs lazy along the way. None of those things were ever based on facts. You don't see anything wrong with that?

2 - Now for the 2nd quote. The 4th sentence in that quote clearly states that I know native resolution is much better than an unscaled image.

This is an honest question. Can you read? If so, do you have problems with reading comprehension? Because you are not debating with me in your posts. You can't be. Because I am not saying the things you are defending.

Why would i change the name of the thread..? Was |Drive Club down grade.? No

Then why don't you go to B4X thread na demand the tittle to be change.? see is this kind of hypocrite moves which you make toward cow what make you a biased ass lemming,change the title on your threads not mine.

The rumor was prove wrong the thread will remain the same the thread wasn't a flame thread get over it.

Well that crap B4X thread is subjective. If he believes that DriveClub has been downgraded then fine. I disagree with him but his thread is opinion based and allows for open discussion. (but really just a bunch of trolling)

This thread contains information that should be considered objective. Your "rumor thread" states incorrect information that involves no opinion whatsoever. The game can't be 720p in some peoples opinion and 1080p in others. So this thread does not offer any open discussion as it stand right now.

You - "Rumor, SOM is 720p on XB1"
Another User- "No it's not. Here's a link with proof"

Thread over.

So far we know it's not 720p. So your thread title contains factually incorrect information. If mods were paying attention they would have asked you to change the title, or lock the thread. Obviously @charizard1605 is too busy playing Smash Bros on 3DS to have noticed.

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#273 darkangel115
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@tormentos: still ignoring my screenshot? Lol

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Here's a 60 fps gif so all of the console gamers can see what they're missing.

http://www.gfycat.com/DimwittedNeatImago

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Bu bu but parity.

PS4Xbone
Resolution
1080 
900
Vegetation 
medium 
low
Textures 
high 
high
LOD distance 
high 
medium
AO 
high 
high 

StormyJoke blown the **** out. As per fucking usual.

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@GrenadeLauncher said:

Bu bu but parity.

PS4Xbone
Resolution
1080 
900
Vegetation 
medium 
low
Textures 
high 
high
LOD distance 
high 
medium
AO 
high 
high 

StormyJoke blown the **** out. As per fucking usual.

DF also mentioned something about shadows being superior on the PS4.

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#277 darkangel115
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@darkangel115 said:

@tormentos said:

@darkangel115 said:

Dude i already proved you wrong in regards to upscaling, I already proved that a TV does do upscaling to 4k, now your damage controlling my TV before i even post a picture lol man you are an assclown. I've also been watching upscaled 4k content for months now and it doesn't look blurry at all. Looks much better then my 1080p TV i used to have for gaming. and you'll be able to tell its not in a best buy, come on man, now you just sound desperate

No you proved that a samsung 4K tv upscale the image.

Not all TV's do that i have 2 1080p and they don't neither,upscale is basically blowing up pixels to fit a target resolution,the simple fact that you don't even know this totally prove that you know sh** about this or that you own that TV.

GTFO with your fake TV still waiting for the screen..lol

awaiting DC by tormentos now

Still waiting. its been 3 days and I've seen you posting, yet still no reply???

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#278 StormyJoe
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@Zero_epyon said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Bu bu but parity.

PS4Xbone
Resolution
1080 
900
Vegetation 
medium 
low
Textures 
high 
high
LOD distance 
high 
medium
AO 
high 
high 

StormyJoke blown the **** out. As per fucking usual.

DF also mentioned something about shadows being superior on the PS4.

Yeah, and they also said you'd be hard-pressed to see a difference.

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#279 Zero_epyon  Online
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@StormyJoe said:

@Zero_epyon said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Bu bu but parity.

PS4Xbone
Resolution
1080 
900
Vegetation 
medium 
low
Textures 
high 
high
LOD distance 
high 
medium
AO 
high 
high 

StormyJoke blown the **** out. As per fucking usual.

DF also mentioned something about shadows being superior on the PS4.

Yeah, and they also said you'd be hard-pressed to see a difference.

Sure I guess. Makes you wonder why they go through all the trouble listing differences if they're not noticeable.

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#280 StormyJoe
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@Zero_epyon said:

@StormyJoe said:

@Zero_epyon said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Bu bu but parity.

PS4Xbone
Resolution
1080 
900
Vegetation 
medium 
low
Textures 
high 
high
LOD distance 
high 
medium
AO 
high 
high 

StormyJoke blown the **** out. As per fucking usual.

DF also mentioned something about shadows being superior on the PS4.

Yeah, and they also said you'd be hard-pressed to see a difference.

Sure I guess. Makes you wonder why they go through all the trouble listing differences if they're not noticeable.

To justify them doing it? IDK - I am just paraphrasing what they said in their analysis.