Rumor.Shadow of Mordor 720p 30FPS on XBO.?

Just went through the GS video comparison... three times. Seriously, if cows are claiming some sort of graphics victory over the XBox One with this game, they really need to reevaluate their life's priorities. I stared at the main character, the ground, the trees and grass in the back ground - I saw no difference between the consoles. I'd bet $1k that if you gave a graphics-whore cow an PS4 controller that was jerry-rigged to work with a XB1, and he/she didn't know, that person would sing praises about the graphics (the opposite would be true as well).

Now cows are going to blow up every single screen 1k times over to show you the slight blur on a blade of grass. Look for the cow circle jerk incoming, especially from El Tormented.

By that lofty standard you have there, you must not have participated in that very same behavior from lemmings about a ton of games last gen. Namely Red Dead Redemption, because if you did that would be very hypocritical of you right now.

They look the same except the PC version looks a little hazy. The blacks look a little better on the x1 but there's not enough of a difference to pick a clear winner.

buh...buh....the PC is soooo much more POWAHFUL! lolololssss.....gawd. So glad I didn't waste beaucoup money on a gaming PC for it to be hazy. Buhhhh buhhh buhhh....gamespot staff is making the x1 look better than the PC. Bwaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha!

PS3 and 360 games looked the same, too.

Although I did think that it was funny that they looked the same, and that in some cases the 360 version had better "specs", given the constant boasting by cows over "teh powah of teh cell".

Probably. But, it doesn't matter to me. I'd really like to see where there is any significant difference. Hell, I'd pretty much take any difference other than the slight lighting differences I saw. The PS4/Xb1 versions looked exactly the same to me.

I can see cows tout the next Uncharted or something like that (that game looks fantastic), but this? Really?

That is what you claim unless they are vastly superior they will suffer.

Yet This game with tons of enemies on screen and huge open world is 1080p over 30FPS.

Don't blame the PS4 for Ubisoft short comings it was downgraded on Pc as well.

The fact that the game need to be cap at 30 to get rid of the stuttering says it all that is what Rebellion did on xbox one to lower screen tearing on SE3 as well is call a trade off.

Completely and utter bullsh** upscaling doesn't add any pixels it just stretch,period and most TV don't upscale that one has a scaler which is the same sh** a GPU would use so again the end result is the same pixelated blur screen.

I have seen many shows upscale to 1080p and they look blurry.

Yeah you will post it latter when you go to best buy and take a picture sad liar..

The fact that you claim upscale add pixels is a joke,you don't know sh** about what your talking.

Quote me once downplaying the xbox for this rumor go ahead...

I don't hide to flame the xbox,i go forward and call it like it is,a 720p 30FPS is a gap that by much doesn't feet with the difference in hardware both units have,i am been fair here dude and you are been a fanboy.

The PC version look kind of fuggy and not as sharp some how i wonder what Gamespot mess up on the settings.

Dude i already proved you wrong in regards to upscaling, I already proved that a TV does do upscaling to 4k, now your damage controlling my TV before i even post a picture lol man you are an assclown. I've also been watching upscaled 4k content for months now and it doesn't look blurry at all. Looks much better then my 1080p TV i used to have for gaming. and you'll be able to tell its not in a best buy, come on man, now you just sound desperate

Upscaling does not improve the quality of a video feed. If anything it downgrades it. If your new 4K TV "looks" better than your old FHD TV most be because of other factors like color accuracy, contrast, etc...

Upscaling actually diminishes the quality since it consists in guessing for example were each pixel in a 720p image should go in a 1080p image, then it creates pixels that have a color that matches this approximation, but up to this day regardless of all the advancements in video scalers, that approximation is nothing more than a guess and the final image will have incorrect colors, so in the end your TV will be outputting colors that are far below the max quality your specific TV can produce compared to the raw video information that's inputted and that is what produces the "blurry" or "washed out" feel of upscaling.

Yeah watching that comparison video, I can't tell the difference at all. Looks to be another "should wait for the game to come out before blowing your load" scenario for the cows.

except it completely improves the quality. I love how all you people are assuming it doesn't when its a proven tech that has been around since 1080p came out. Do you realize how small a pixel is? can you really pick out 1 pixel being an "off color" out of the over 8 million pixels crammed into a 65 inch TV? hell KZ:SF used an interlace technique and nobody here noticed the difference one bit and up scaling is similar to interlacing.

Also at least you understand what it is, where tormentos thinks it just stretches the image lol

No you proved that a samsung 4K tv upscale the image.

Not all TV's do that i have 2 1080p and they don't neither,upscale is basically blowing up pixels to fit a target resolution,the simple fact that you don't even know this totally prove that you know sh** about this or that you own that TV.

GTFO with your fake TV still waiting for the screen..lol

lol no i'm pretty sure all 4k TVs do it, the cheaper ones just have shitty upscalers where the better ones like samsung have really good ones. And no it doesn't blow up, it adds pixels, there is a difference. 1080P TVs don't have upscalers but most BD players do have upscalers for DVDs to upscale them to 1080P i know mine does and watching a DVD on my 1080p TV was pretty much as good as watching a BD on it.

As far as the pic, have patience, its only 530PM for me and i'm still working, some of us have wives, kids, jobs etc and can't rush home to prove an internet idiot wrong right away lol. I said I'll post it tonight and it'll be up tonight. Then you can come up with another dumb excuse.

@tormentos: You should go to a Best Buy. The 4K lineup does an amazing job of up scaling to a "4Kish" picture. It's actually one of the major bullet points. The upscalers have a ton of hype behind them. They will show you a native 1080p image and then upscale it for comparison. I don't own a 4K tv but I have looked at them a few times. The upscale engines are pretty good.

I think that has to do with 1080p scaling linearly with 4K,rather than been a great scaler,i have seen 4K tv's and they look nice but 4k native does look way better,and upscaling 900p and 720p isn't a joke.

Don't encourage the troll just to go against me dude it make you look foolish,make a thread about the PS4 running in 4k scale as been equal to 4k native and see what you get here..

Have any of you actually tried playing an upscaled game on a 4k display? The input lag is unreal, at least on the Sony I played a PS4 on.

The only difference that is apparent between the three versions showed is adjustments to picture settings. Sad really, pc is so much more capable than a XBO lowest denominator.

Except that the console versions run at 30 fps, not 60...and the shadow and lighting quality is far superior on PC, not to mention the better antialiasing, anisotropic filtering, higher quality ambient occlusion, and more.

So, what's the final resolution on Xboner?

'Although not all algorithms yield the same quality, interpolation generally improves otherwise low resolution images. However, attempting to simulate missing pixels comes at a cost; all methods incur some combination of blurring, blocking and halo artifacts:'

http://www.red.com/learn/red-101/upscaled-1080P-vs-4K

'all methods incur some combination of blurring, blocking and halo artifacts:'

You ARE going to get blurry textures with upscaling that is a FACT

oh yeah you "read", must be true.

Surely you must have proof ?

This is the first I've heard about any resolution-increasing patches for any console versions of Mordor.

"Despite the improvements, Xbox One version is still unable to match the resolution and frame rates of PS4 as some players have reported that PS4 version of the game is running at 1080p with 60fps, while the Xbox One version is at 720/900p with locked 30fps."

Lems got xboned yet again

Or this one

LOL

"If there’s one thing proven it’s that the game looks fantastic on PS4. Running at 1080p at an unlocked 60fps, the entire experience is smooth as butter"

"some have been able to get their hands on Xbox One copies of the game. Streams have been infrequently occurring in the past 24 hours and what we’ve been hearing from them isn’t good. There’s been multiple reports that the game runs at either 720p or 900p at a locked 30fps. We’re seeing reports of 900p (or sub-900p) more often than 720p, but there hasn’t yet been anybody reporting it runs higher than 900. More still, the consensus is that it doesn’t cross the 30fps line."

lmao lemmings. The Strugglebox continues its desperate journey to not be shit.

Any other source for this other than Gamespot, which managed to make the PC version look washed out?

@tormentos You want to correct your topic title or just keep being the shill with mental instability?

That last part. Finally Justin is showing a flash of self-awareness.

Yeah. Um. Holy crap! If Gamespot is correct the game is 1080p on Xbox One with the patch. This kind of blows this thread up doesn't it? And makes quite a few people look foolish along the way.

Wow man calm down. I don't "encourage" trolls and have anything to gain by "going against you." I was just saying that I have seen the upscale demos at Best Buy and they look good. In no way am I saying it makes it look native 4K or anything crazy like that. So chill.

And a thread about PS4 games upscaled to 4K being equal to native 4K? That sounds like a thread you would make. And it would be about as accurate as this thread.

This. @tormentos, what do you think of this? Granted, this is new news, and there is no way you could have known before.

Still, um... parity?

So since PS4 wins yet again, is it even worth bothering with mulit plats on Xbone if you have both?

The answer is obviously no unless a person has a strong controller preference. But how many people here own both? Hell, there are some that don't own either.

This isn't an atin xbox one thread you moron..hahahaaaaaaaaaa

How this thread is not a flame thread for the fu**ing 100 time,in fact i have done nothing but defend the xbox one version of this game stating that if the game was 720p was because of the developers been lazy quote me once flaming the xbox for this game.

You still getting that this thread is about making fun of the xbox one you still wrong.

If the game is 1080p hurray but i never claimed it was 720p or started lol the xbone..or any sh** like that.

No matter how go teh scaler is native >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Upscale it is a known fact upscaling introduce artifacts and blur images.

Parity there is not parity ,and it will never be because implying parity means that 1 consoles will improve graphically to over come a hardware deficiency while the other will improve nothing,.

You are a joke 7770 vs 7850OC there would never be parity unless the PS4 is hold back.

Now if the game is 1080p good for the xbox one,since even the 7770 can run it in 1080p,the only hold off on the xbox one was probably ESRAM.

Well I have both. I guess I'll just use the Xbone for Exclusives and MC Collection.

But... both versions of SoM are 1080p/30fps. That's parity. Granted the PS4's frame rate is unlocked, but it's certainly not performing at 60fps.

1 - You completely missed the meaning of my post in the first quote. This thread was made based on a rumor. That rumor was first proven wrong a few days ago when people with the ability to count pixels began saying it was running at 900p. Thread over. But you didn't change the title then. Now Gamespot says the game runs at 1080p after a patch. Your rumor thread has then been obliterated.

I never said this was a flame thread. And I never said you were making fun of the Xbox One. Find a quote. I NEVER said any of those things. My issue was with you making a thread based on a rumor and calling devs lazy along the way. None of those things were ever based on facts. You don't see anything wrong with that?

2 - Now for the 2nd quote. The 4th sentence in that quote clearly states that I know native resolution is much better than an unscaled image.

This is an honest question. Can you read? If so, do you have problems with reading comprehension? Because you are not debating with me in your posts. You can't be. Because I am not saying the things you are defending.

I know you have both. I do too. I actually like the XBox One controller more for sports games so I buy those and exclusives there. Everything else is PS4 or PC.

We should play Sunset Overdrive this month.

PM me your Gamertag and PSN ID if you want.

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So, what's the final resolution on Xboner?

I read day one patch to 1080p, I think even gamespot reported it. 1080p/30fps on both consoles, that 50% more powaaaaah

oh yeah you "read", must be true.

You interpret "read", like you want... I'm just stating facts, that I actually read 1080p/30fps... Sad cow is sad again? Did Sony raise the price of PS+ in your region?

Surely you must have proof ?

I'll look it up, and edit this post.

"Despite the improvements, Xbox One version is still unable to match the resolution and frame rates of PS4 as some players have reported that PS4 version of the game is running at 1080p with 60fps, while the Xbox One version is at 720/900p with locked 30fps."

Lems got xboned yet again

Or this one

LOL

"If there’s one thing proven it’s that the game looks fantastic on PS4. Running at 1080p at an unlocked 60fps, the entire experience is smooth as butter"

"some have been able to get their hands on Xbox One copies of the game. Streams have been infrequently occurring in the past 24 hours and what we’ve been hearing from them isn’t good. There’s been multiple reports that the game runs at either 720p or 900p at a locked 30fps. We’re seeing reports of 900p (or sub-900p) more often than 720p, but there hasn’t yet been anybody reporting it runs higher than 900. More still, the consensus is that it doesn’t cross the 30fps line."

I'm sorry I just had to say this but your sources and links are a damn joke. What players have noticed poor performance? Cows? Also can you provide hard proof or other more veritable sources that the ps4 version runs 1080/60? I think I'll wait to hear from DF even though going by DF these days you'd think they were on Sony's payroll. Still better than those websites you linked us to that look like they were created by pathetic playstation fanboys overnight. LOL GTFO.

We don't even know if SoM is 1080p outside of GS' word for it. Waiting for them other sources.

Agreed. While more reliable than a rumor, we need to wait for DF. Remember the IGN Call of Duty Ghosts fiasco? I could see Gamespot doing something like that.

Like I said 1080p locked 30fps

or 1080p 30-60 reports by my beyond3d friends judders on the ps4

They are assuming the "guess work" is always wrong. When in fact it may be correct enough to improve the image. A pixel can't be stretched. It's of fixed size on you screen. to stretch a pixel would be to actually stretch your monitor. When you resize an image, you are stretching it. some tools have an algorithm that will redraw the image instead of just stretching it. The correct way to think about up-scaling is to think of it as redrawing as opposed to taking a picture and actually stretching it. When you zoom into an image, and you notice a decrease in image fidelity, that's because the image is being stretched. The detail that was only taking up a few pixels is taking up a dozen pixels and the result is a loss in fidelity. Zooming and up-scaling are not the same thing.

This is why we're not seeing a huge diff on image fidelity for Mordor. The x1 upscaling is doing it's job very well.