Rumour: Halo 3 Pre-Orders Tops 4 Million!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Halo 2 sold 2.4 million in it's first 24 hours.Jandurin

Right.  But, I'd bet only half those were pre-orders.  This is twice that number just in pre-orders.

Does that mean we could expect 8 million in sales in the first week?  :P

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="VladTheImpaler"]I think they should make a Elite that comes with Halo 3 for Christmas. It worked great for Blue Dragon in Japan.SpruceCaboose

    A 360 that doesn't commit hari-kari when left on for more than a few hours?

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="VladTheImpaler"]I think they should make a Elite that comes with Halo 3 for Christmas. It worked great for Blue Dragon in Japan.SpruceCaboose

    A 360 that doesn't commit hari-kari when left on for more than a few hours?

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="VladTheImpaler"]I think they should make a Elite that comes with Halo 3 for Christmas. It worked great for Blue Dragon in Japan.fresherfish

A 360 that doesn't commit hari-kari when left on for more than a few hours?

GTFO fanboy. While I admit that the 360 seems to have a higher rate of malfunctions than other consoles, but your statement is a bold faced lie.

    Fanboy...cute. Actually, I own a 360 and I love it.

    If you cannot accept that MS made a huge design flaw in their design of the 360, and especially in its dispersion of heat, and in their choice of thermal paste/adhesion of the heat-sink to the CPU, I would call you the fanboy for being blindly loyal to a company.

[QUOTE="fresherfish"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="VladTheImpaler"]I think they should make a Elite that comes with Halo 3 for Christmas. It worked great for Blue Dragon in Japan.SpruceCaboose

A 360 that doesn't commit hari-kari when left on for more than a few hours?

GTFO fanboy. While I admit that the 360 seems to have a higher rate of malfunctions than other consoles, but your statement is a bold faced lie.

    Fanboy...cute. Actually, I own a 360 and I love it.

    If you cannot accept that MS made a huge design flaw in their design of the 360, and especially in its dispersion of heat, and in their choice of thermal paste/adhesion of the heat-sink to the CPU, I would call you the fanboy for being blindly loyal to a company.

What? Did you only read the first sentence of my post? WOW

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="VladTheImpaler"]I think they should make a Elite that comes with Halo 3 for Christmas. It worked great for Blue Dragon in Japan.SecretPolice

A 360 that doesn't commit hari-kari when left on for more than a few hours?

    Actually, my launch unit froze within the first 5 minutes, and the replacement unit I got lasted about a year before it got the Red Ring. I still love the system, but MS dropped the ball on design with the 360. They were too focused on aesthetics and performance suffered as a result.

I don't doubt it. But after this, will the Xbox 360 produce another game that sells more than this?TekkenMaster606

xflopliveLawLo_O

What? Did you only read the first sentence of my post? WOW

fresherfish

    It is not a bold-faced lie. I used hyperbole in order to convey my point. It is a well-worn literary device. I never said every 360 dies, nor was I attempting to make a statement as fact. I was actually making a joke about the 360s poor design.

    However, you took it to be a stab at something you evidently love, and if you cannot handle some well-founded criticism, I would look into why you have such an issue with that. 

    I love the 360, but I can also see clearly that there are issues that are not user error that are causing these Red Rings, and like it or not, MS is not fixing them, they are glossing them over (look at their "fix" in the Elite for proof of what I am saying).

[QUOTE="fresherfish"]

What? Did you only read the first sentence of my post? WOW

SpruceCaboose

It is not a bold-faced lie. I used hyperbole in order to convey my point. It is a well-worn literary device. I never said every 360 dies, nor was I attempting to make a statement as fact. I was actually making a joke about the 360s poor design.

However, you took it to be a stab at something you evidently love, and if you cannot handle some well-founded criticism, I would look into why you have such an issue with that.

I love the 360, but I can also see clearly that there are issues that are not user error that are causing these Red Rings, and like it or not, MS is not fixing them, they are glossing them over (look at their "fix" in the Elite for proof of what I am saying).

Spruce makes some great posts and he tells it like it is. I own a 360 (elite ;) ) and I luv it. But lets be honest, there are hardware problems. Spruce was pointing this out. I know this is SW, but lets not get too crazy. Spruce makes great contributions to SW.

I don't doubt it. But after this, will the Xbox 360 produce another game that sells more than this?TekkenMaster606

Will PS3 ever make a game that sells like this.  Just stop please.

[QUOTE="fresherfish"]

What? Did you only read the first sentence of my post? WOW

SpruceCaboose

    It is not a bold-faced lie. I used hyperbole in order to convey my point. It is a well-worn literary device. I never said every 360 dies, nor was I attempting to make a statement as fact. I was actually making a joke about the 360s poor design.

    However, you took it to be a stab at something you evidently love, and if you cannot handle some well-founded criticism, I would look into why you have such an issue with that. 

    I love the 360, but I can also see clearly that there are issues that are not user error that are causing these Red Rings, and like it or not, MS is not fixing them, they are glossing them over (look at their "fix" in the Elite for proof of what I am saying).

Did you skip over the part where I admitted the the 360's high failure rate. Also, you don't make distorted statements about something you love just to "convey a point".

what do you expect? its the #1 casual online game for consoles. even halo2 is still the #1 played game on xfloplive. its like when mario galaxies or whatever its called sells millions of copies... so what? do you not expect it?LawLo_O

    What makes it casual, exactly?

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="fresherfish"]

What? Did you only read the first sentence of my post? WOW

dhjohns

It is not a bold-faced lie. I used hyperbole in order to convey my point. It is a well-worn literary device. I never said every 360 dies, nor was I attempting to make a statement as fact. I was actually making a joke about the 360s poor design.

However, you took it to be a stab at something you evidently love, and if you cannot handle some well-founded criticism, I would look into why you have such an issue with that.

I love the 360, but I can also see clearly that there are issues that are not user error that are causing these Red Rings, and like it or not, MS is not fixing them, they are glossing them over (look at their "fix" in the Elite for proof of what I am saying).

Spruce makes some great posts and he tells it like it is. I own a 360 (elite ;) ) and I luv it. But lets be honest, there are hardware problems. Spruce was pointing this out. I know this is SW, but lets not get too crazy. Spruce makes great contributions to SW.

Ah. You need to read the original post he was referring to.

[QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="fresherfish"]

What? Did you only read the first sentence of my post? WOW

fresherfish

It is not a bold-faced lie. I used hyperbole in order to convey my point. It is a well-worn literary device. I never said every 360 dies, nor was I attempting to make a statement as fact. I was actually making a joke about the 360s poor design.

However, you took it to be a stab at something you evidently love, and if you cannot handle some well-founded criticism, I would look into why you have such an issue with that.

I love the 360, but I can also see clearly that there are issues that are not user error that are causing these Red Rings, and like it or not, MS is not fixing them, they are glossing them over (look at their "fix" in the Elite for proof of what I am saying).

Spruce makes some great posts and he tells it like it is. I own a 360 (elite ;) ) and I luv it. But lets be honest, there are hardware problems. Spruce was pointing this out. I know this is SW, but lets not get too crazy. Spruce makes great contributions to SW.

Ah. You need to read the original post he was referring to.

Fresh, I hear you man.  SW is ramapant with foolish and crazy posts.  I am just stating that I have seen Spruce post many things and he does add a lot here.  Maybe in your eyes he went to far with his comment, but he usually has very nice things to say about the 360.  In this case, he is just pointing out the obvious problem with it.   

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="fresherfish"]

What? Did you only read the first sentence of my post? WOW

fresherfish

It is not a bold-faced lie. I used hyperbole in order to convey my point. It is a well-worn literary device. I never said every 360 dies, nor was I attempting to make a statement as fact. I was actually making a joke about the 360s poor design.

However, you took it to be a stab at something you evidently love, and if you cannot handle some well-founded criticism, I would look into why you have such an issue with that.

I love the 360, but I can also see clearly that there are issues that are not user error that are causing these Red Rings, and like it or not, MS is not fixing them, they are glossing them over (look at their "fix" in the Elite for proof of what I am saying).

Did you skip over the part where I admitted the the 360's high failure rate. Also, you don't make distorted statements about something you love just to "convey a point".

    Its HYPERBOLE! Did you sleep through English class? It has nothing to do with distortion, as I did not distort anything. If you want proof I have and love my 360, look up my posting history. Or look up my gamer tag. Heck, I don't care.

    I know I love my system, but I can admit it has major issues that MS is looking the other way about, and that, as a consumer who has spent his money on an investment, makes me angry. If I wouldn't have known better, and I would have forgone the extended warranty, you better believe I would be much more vocal about it. As such, I lost two and a half weeks I could have had gaming due to poor system design.

    I might love the system, but I won't defent the company when it is clearly an issue that they are unwilling to look into and fix, and as such, I will keep continuing my 360's extended warranty until the next Xbox comes out, and I would suggest you do the same. 

[QUOTE="fresherfish"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="VladTheImpaler"]I think they should make a Elite that comes with Halo 3 for Christmas. It worked great for Blue Dragon in Japan.SpruceCaboose

A 360 that doesn't commit hari-kari when left on for more than a few hours?

GTFO fanboy. While I admit that the 360 seems to have a higher rate of malfunctions than other consoles, but your statement is a bold faced lie.

    Fanboy...cute. Actually, I own a 360 and I love it.

    If you cannot accept that MS made a huge design flaw in their design of the 360, and especially in its dispersion of heat, and in their choice of thermal paste/adhesion of the heat-sink to the CPU, I would call you the fanboy for being blindly loyal to a company.

and i'm still waiting for you to post any credible percentages of failure rates outside of 5% that MS has admitted...

as i'm sure you know, 5% is low... escpecially so when you consider MS if fixing or replacing for free...

i'm afraid you may be victim of the sony-fan-pretending-to-be-a-360-owner forum posts...

and i'm still waiting for you to post any credible percentages of failure rates outside of 5% that MS has admitted...

as i'm sure you know, 5% is low... escpecially so when you consider MS if fixing or replacing for free...

i'm afraid you may be victim of the sony-fan-pretending-to-be-a-360-owner forum posts...

tango90101

    And I am still waiting for you to have anything credible to say ever. I don't need MS to tell me there is an issue. Open a 360 up and see for yourself. I have a very clear history of supporting the 360, but I won't support everything that MS does, unlike you.

and i'm still waiting for you to post any credible percentages of failure rates outside of 5% that MS has admitted...

as i'm sure you know, 5% is low... escpecially so when you consider MS if fixing or replacing for free...

i'm afraid you may be victim of the sony-fan-pretending-to-be-a-360-owner forum posts...

 

tango90101

5% is actually high.

    Its HYPERBOLE! Did you sleep through English class? It has nothing to do with distortion, as I did not distort anything. If you want proof I have and love my 360, look up my posting history. Or look up my gamer tag. Heck, I don't care.

    I know I love my system, but I can admit it has major issues that MS is looking the other way about, and that, as a consumer who has spent his money on an investment, makes me angry. If I wouldn't have known better, and I would have forgone the extended warranty, you better believe I would be much more vocal about it. As such, I lost two and a half weeks I could have had gaming due to poor system design.

    I might love the system, but I won't defent the company when it is clearly an issue that they are unwilling to look into and fix, and as such, I will keep continuing my 360's extended warranty until the next Xbox comes out, and I would suggest you do the same. 

OK, this is the last time I'll repeat this. Did you not notice my acknowledgement that the 360's have have a higher than average failure rate? At the least they extended the warranties of all their 360's. That's not doing nothing. You also don't don't know what their hardware wise to fix all the faults so stop making assumptions you have no knowledge of.

For some proof to the nay-sayers:

My 360/Wii:

My Gamer tag:

My setup, with Wii, 360, Original Xbox, and LOOK, no PS3... 

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="VladTheImpaler"]I think they should make a Elite that comes with Halo 3 for Christmas. It worked great for Blue Dragon in Japan.SpruceCaboose

A 360 that doesn't commit hari-kari when left on for more than a few hours?

    Actually, my launch unit froze within the first 5 minutes, and the replacement unit I got lasted about a year before it got the Red Ring. I still love the system, but MS dropped the ball on design with the 360. They were too focused on aesthetics and performance suffered as a result.

                       Now you must admit they did what many thought impossible; launch a " high tech "  console one year earier and yet still have what many consider the best pound for pound horse power so far being proven in the games themselves.

                       Lets through in XBL and what they continue to do there and well I could see that selling a system at the competitive price it's at and maybe have some faulty hardware here and there.

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Fresh, I hear you man.  SW is ramapant with foolish and crazy posts.  I am just stating that I have seen Spruce post many things and he does add a lot here.  Maybe in your eyes he went to far with his comment, but he usually has very nice things to say about the 360.  In this case, he is just pointing out the obvious problem with it.   

The problem is that I actually agreed with him and he continues to ignore it. Pretty irritating. What I wrote is pretty clear to understand.

[quote="SpruceCaboose"]

Its HYPERBOLE! Did you sleep through English class? It has nothing to do with distortion, as I did not distort anything. If you want proof I have and love my 360, look up my posting history. Or look up my gamer tag. Heck, I don't care.

I know I love my system, but I can admit it has major issues that MS is looking the other way about, and that, as a consumer who has spent his money on an investment, makes me angry. If I wouldn't have known better, and I would have forgone the extended warranty, you better believe I would be much more vocal about it. As such, I lost two and a half weeks I could have had gaming due to poor system design.

I might love the system, but I won't defent the company when it is clearly an issue that they are unwilling to look into and fix, and as such, I will keep continuing my 360's extended warranty until the next Xbox comes out, and I would suggest you do the same.

fresherfish

OK, this is the last time I'll repeat this. Did you not notice my acknowledgement that the 360's have have a higher than average failure rate? At the least they extended the warranties of all their 360's. That's not doing nothing. You also don't don't know what their hardware wise to fix all the faults so stop making assumptions you have no knowledge of.

    Actually, I know exactly what the hardware issue is that is causing most of the faults, and I know ways that they could have fixed it, suce as stronger thermal paste, a different motherboard design, more efficient cooling system, among other things. I have built computers. I know what it takes to operate a computer without it overheating.

    I am sure that in their design labs, under superb conditions, the 360 would not over heat. But in the real world, systems are put in entertainment systems, played in weather over 70 degrees F, and are played for hours on end. Knowing this, at the very least, MS should have put in additional cooling, such as larger vents and/or more cooling fans. 

The problem is that I actually agreed with him and he continues to ignore it. Pretty irritating. What I wrote is pretty clear to understand. fresherfish

    I can understand that you agree they have larger issues of failure. However, I am saying that there were ways they could have fixed it, and not hosed so many people, and I also took offense that once I said the 360 had issues, even real ones, I was labeled as a fanboy, when if anything, I would be a fanboy for the 360. 

[QUOTE="fresherfish"][quote="SpruceCaboose"]

Its HYPERBOLE! Did you sleep through English class? It has nothing to do with distortion, as I did not distort anything. If you want proof I have and love my 360, look up my posting history. Or look up my gamer tag. Heck, I don't care.

I know I love my system, but I can admit it has major issues that MS is looking the other way about, and that, as a consumer who has spent his money on an investment, makes me angry. If I wouldn't have known better, and I would have forgone the extended warranty, you better believe I would be much more vocal about it. As such, I lost two and a half weeks I could have had gaming due to poor system design.

I might love the system, but I won't defent the company when it is clearly an issue that they are unwilling to look into and fix, and as such, I will keep continuing my 360's extended warranty until the next Xbox comes out, and I would suggest you do the same.

SpruceCaboose

OK, this is the last time I'll repeat this. Did you not notice my acknowledgement that the 360's have have a higher than average failure rate? At the least they extended the warranties of all their 360's. That's not doing nothing. You also don't don't know what their hardware wise to fix all the faults so stop making assumptions you have no knowledge of.

    Actually, I know exactly what the hardware issue is that is causing most of the faults, and I know ways that they could have fixed it, suce as stronger thermal paste, a different motherboard design, more efficient cooling system, among other things. I have built computers. I know what it takes to operate a computer without it overheating.

    I am sure that in their design labs, under superb conditions, the 360 would not over heat. But in the real world, systems are put in entertainment systems, played in weather over 70 degrees F, and are played for hours on end. Knowing this, at the very least, MS should have put in additional cooling, such as larger vents and/or more cooling fans. 

You make it sound so easy. Anyways, I actually agree with you, but you constructive criticism doesn't sound too constructive, it sounds more like somebody venting their frustrations, thats all.

Why all the hate directed towards Spruce? Logical posters on SW are few and far between. Spruce usually makes a good contribution. The only thing he did here was point out an existing problem. MS is working hard to fix the problem but I think it should do more and these problems still shouldn't be around. Is it too much to ask for these things?dhjohns

I concur 

[QUOTE="fresherfish"]The problem is that I actually agreed with him and he continues to ignore it. Pretty irritating. What I wrote is pretty clear to understand. SpruceCaboose

    I can understand that you agree they have larger issues of failure. However, I am saying that there were ways they could have fixed it, and not hosed so many people, and I also took offense that once I said the 360 had issues, even real ones, I was labeled as a fanboy, when if anything, I would be a fanboy for the 360. 

Ok, sorry man. I'm not doubting you, but your original criticism came off as fanboyish.

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]I don't doubt it. But after this, will the Xbox 360 produce another game that sells more than this?dhjohns

Will PS3 ever make a game that sells like this. Just stop please.

Why do I give a @)(# about what the PS3 does? Pfft, you better learn what platform I'm all about before you start spewing filth like that.

I and many many others just must be lucky or........? Though I think it sure could be heartier at its core; remember that MS was in production and selling hardware 12 months before the other two!

Now you must admit they did what many thought impossible; launch a " high tech " console one year earier and yet still have what many consider the best pound for pound horse power so far being proven in the games themselves.

Lets through in XBL and what they continue to do there and well I could see that selling a system at the competitive price it's at and maybe have some faulty hardware here and there.

SecretPolice

    I would never downplay what MS has done. The 360 is a superb gaming system, and it has a great library of games already. It also houses the best (that is my opinion, and I am aware it is an opinion) online gaming system to date in XBL.

    It also still has very great hardware for being a year older than the PS3/Wii.

    I would not begrudge them that. It is a great system, with great specs. What I would prefer, no matter how much I got "owned" as an early adopter, was if MS would admit the flaws in their design, specifically the heatsink becoming dislodged when the MOBO fluxes when the system is heated up, and fix the flaw, even through a redesign if they have to. The Elite would have been a perfect time, but they didn't fix it yet.

    Hopefully when the 65nm cores become standard in the 360, that issue will fix itself.

    I, however, having been burned twice now, will continue to keep my warranty current, and if you own two, seriously, coming from a 360 lover who has had two die, I seriously suggest you keep the extended warranty in mind. 

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="fresherfish"]The problem is that I actually agreed with him and he continues to ignore it. Pretty irritating. What I wrote is pretty clear to understand. fresherfish

I can understand that you agree they have larger issues of failure. However, I am saying that there were ways they could have fixed it, and not hosed so many people, and I also took offense that once I said the 360 had issues, even real ones, I was labeled as a fanboy, when if anything, I would be a fanboy for the 360.

Ok, sorry man. I'm not doubting you, but your original criticism came off as fanboyish.

Awesome!!! We have peace here in SW.  I can die a happy man now! :P 

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

and i'm still waiting for you to post any credible percentages of failure rates outside of 5% that MS has admitted...

as i'm sure you know, 5% is low... escpecially so when you consider MS if fixing or replacing for free...

i'm afraid you may be victim of the sony-fan-pretending-to-be-a-360-owner forum posts...

 

kcpp2b

5% is actually high.

uh...no it's not... new tech...

and 5 out of 100 is not bad on ANY level...

[QUOTE="dhjohns"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]I don't doubt it. But after this, will the Xbox 360 produce another game that sells more than this?TekkenMaster606

Will PS3 ever make a game that sells like this. Just stop please.

Why do I give a @)(# about what the PS3 does? Pfft, you better what platform I'm all about before you start spewing filth like that. 

So you just hate on 360 because it ownz the PC?, understandable I guess, but you shouldn't let it get to you so much.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="fresherfish"]The problem is that I actually agreed with him and he continues to ignore it. Pretty irritating. What I wrote is pretty clear to understand. fresherfish

I can understand that you agree they have larger issues of failure. However, I am saying that there were ways they could have fixed it, and not hosed so many people, and I also took offense that once I said the 360 had issues, even real ones, I was labeled as a fanboy, when if anything, I would be a fanboy for the 360.

Ok, sorry man. I'm not doubting you, but your original criticism came off as fanboyish.

    I apologize. I was kind joking around with the hari-kari thing, and I took the "fanboy" response way too seriously, and I didn't read thoroughly. I apologize for flying off the handle! 

[QUOTE="dhjohns"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]I don't doubt it. But after this, will the Xbox 360 produce another game that sells more than this?TekkenMaster606

Will PS3 ever make a game that sells like this. Just stop please.

Why do I give a @)(# about what the PS3 does? Pfft, you better what platform I'm all about before you start spewing filth like that.

I've seen your previous posts and I don't care.  I just thnk it is silly flamebait to state well I guess that's it for the 360.  No game will probably recreate the selling power of Halo 3 on the 360, but then again you never know.  So pfft, move along. 

[QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

and i'm still waiting for you to post any credible percentages of failure rates outside of 5% that MS has admitted...

as i'm sure you know, 5% is low... escpecially so when you consider MS if fixing or replacing for free...

i'm afraid you may be victim of the sony-fan-pretending-to-be-a-360-owner forum posts...

 

tango90101

5% is actually high.

uh...no it's not... new tech...

and 5 out of 100 is not bad on ANY level...

    How about the 3% that MS initally claimed?

[QUOTE="fresherfish"]The problem is that I actually agreed with him and he continues to ignore it. Pretty irritating. What I wrote is pretty clear to understand. SpruceCaboose

    I can understand that you agree they have larger issues of failure. However, I am saying that there were ways they could have fixed it, and not hosed so many people, and I also took offense that once I said the 360 had issues, even real ones, I was labeled as a fanboy, when if anything, I would be a fanboy for the 360. 

hindsight is ALWAYS 20/20...

maybe you should design your own console...after all it sounds easy enough to ensure one is made w/o problems..

who cares the 360 has 1,700 parts in it.... right...? 

you do realize a lot of the 360's probs were caused by the dvd drive and NOT heat issues right...? 

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

and i'm still waiting for you to post any credible percentages of failure rates outside of 5% that MS has admitted...

as i'm sure you know, 5% is low... escpecially so when you consider MS if fixing or replacing for free...

i'm afraid you may be victim of the sony-fan-pretending-to-be-a-360-owner forum posts...

 

SpruceCaboose

5% is actually high.

uh...no it's not... new tech...

and 5 out of 100 is not bad on ANY level...

    How about the 3% that MS initally claimed?

i read 5%, but don't ask for a link..

but i can live wtih 3%...

[QUOTE="fresherfish"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="fresherfish"]The problem is that I actually agreed with him and he continues to ignore it. Pretty irritating. What I wrote is pretty clear to understand. SpruceCaboose

I can understand that you agree they have larger issues of failure. However, I am saying that there were ways they could have fixed it, and not hosed so many people, and I also took offense that once I said the 360 had issues, even real ones, I was labeled as a fanboy, when if anything, I would be a fanboy for the 360.

Ok, sorry man. I'm not doubting you, but your original criticism came off as fanboyish.

    I apologize. I was kind joking around with the hari-kari thing, and I took the "fanboy" response way too seriously, and I didn't read thoroughly. I apologize for flying off the handle! 

No sweat Spruce, it was all a misunderstanding from the beginning anyways!

uh...no it's not... new tech...

and 5 out of 100 is not bad on ANY level...

tango90101

By the way, how about you admit you were wrong about me being a Sony fanboy? I think my photos shot that one down pretty good.

I don't doubt it. But after this, will the Xbox 360 produce another game that sells more than this?TekkenMaster606

Very doubtful. Halo is really popular among the casuals and I don't think any other Xbox 360 title will have the same appeal as Halo has. That is unless Bungie decides to go ahead with Halo 4 with a different story arc. ;)