Saints Row Review/anti-Hype thread [6 from GS]

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#1  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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GANGSTA!
GANGSTA!

This game's going about as well as most expected. Reviews all over the place for a game that barely looks last gen. Volition wanted to push on with it anyway, and I have a feeling that the Saints won't be seen again for a looong time.

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#2 R4gn4r0k
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Oooooof, why did they have to go all political, did they forget how to make a good game?

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#3 Fedor
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No clue who this game was made for, certainly not the existing Saints Row fans.

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#4 SolidGame_basic  Online
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Dang, that stinks. Used to be a fun franchise. On the flip side, that's one less game I have to add to my backlog lol.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

Dang, that stinks. Used to be a fun franchise. On the flip side, that's one less game I have to add to my backlog lol.

Flip the score around and there's another game you had to buy :D

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Next time make Freespace you fucking hacks.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

Dang, that stinks. Used to be a fun franchise. On the flip side, that's one less game I have to add to my backlog lol.

This is one of those games I don't see a lot of people touching unless it drops on a sub service. I don't know

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

Dang, that stinks. Used to be a fun franchise. On the flip side, that's one less game I have to add to my backlog lol.

This is one of those games I don't see a lot of people touching unless it drops on a sub service. I don't know

Definitely going to be on GamePass/PS Plus Premium soon haha. May even be a PS Plus freebie.

@R4gn4r0k said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

Dang, that stinks. Used to be a fun franchise. On the flip side, that's one less game I have to add to my backlog lol.

Flip the score around and there's another game you had to buy :D

Oh snap! *preorders*

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#9  Edited By WladolfPutler
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Oooooof, why did they have to go all political, did they forget how to make a good game?

Uh Oh! You must be American.

Americans are going "political" on every occasion, yet of course they hate everyone else going "political" all the time.

Now is this game being "political" or does it make fun of politics?

Ah i forgot, Americans neither like politics, being political and of course they hate making fun of politics in a political way.

Why don´t you guys just ban politics for once and for all, since your Country is one of the best when it comes to ban things after all!

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#10  Edited By lamprey263
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Reviews mention it is fun but bug ridden, so I would at least wait until it's ironed out, maybe wait for a discount too.

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#11  Edited By Sagemode87
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Better on PS5 :) https://youtu.be/cBnvES27Uas

Time for Lems to admit Series X isn't what they thought it was as this is probably the most impressive looking multiplat on the market atm.

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#12  Edited By SargentD
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Looked like trash from the start. I'd play the first saints row over this hipster trash any day of the week

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#13 Archangel3371
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Was never really interested in this game myself. Only played one of the games, the third one, and thought it was an ok funny game. Not really a franchise that I was all that interested in overall though.

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#14 Fedor
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@Sagemode87 said:

Better on PS5 :) https://youtu.be/cBnvES27Uas

Time for Lems to admit Series X isn't what they thought it was as this is probably the most impressive looking multiplat on the market atm.

The hell it is, this game looks last gen. Also, according to your video the games run nearly identical with PS5 having a tiny advantage at 1440p RTAO and Series X having a tiny advantage at 4k.

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#15  Edited By Zaryia
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Oooooof, why did they have to go all political, did they forget how to make a good game?

What part is political?

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@zaryia said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Oooooof, why did they have to go all political, did they forget how to make a good game?

What part is political?

They made all the characters zoomer hipster soy milk chugging contestants

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@sargentd said:
@zaryia said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Oooooof, why did they have to go all political, did they forget how to make a good game?

What part is political?

They made all the characters zoomer hipster soy milk chugging contestants

Which one?

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@zaryia said:
@sargentd said:
@zaryia said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Oooooof, why did they have to go all political, did they forget how to make a good game?

What part is political?

They made all the characters zoomer hipster soy milk chugging contestants

Which one?

going off this review all of them

While the main character is a self-described murder machine, the rest of your friends are well-rounded and avoid falling into a pitfall of homicidal archetypes. The perpetually shirtless Kev, for instance, is obsessed with food and music, regularly talking about the kitchen appliances he hopes to buy when not busy DJing a party. Neena, on the other hand, is a mechanic who loves restoring classic cars but also has an appreciation for art and an interest in gallery curation. Then there's Eli, the strategist and aspirational entrepreneur of the group. He's averse to violence but spends his off-hours LARPing in the desert and shooting like-minded individuals with foam bullets.

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#19 SargentD
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damn... killed off the series with this one.

miss when saints row was a fun gta clone.

end of an era

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#20  Edited By with_teeth26
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Enjoyed SR 2/3 when they came out but I feel the demand for this series has come and gone. this is pretty much as expected, doubt this sells well

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#21  Edited By madrocketeer
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That's a shame. Enjoyed SR3 and 4.

I wasn't going to buy it at launch even if it wasn't EGS exclusive, because while I detected the old Saints Row DNA in this game, I also saw some things that were concerning. Seems my worries were well-founded.

Oh well. Moving on.

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#22 Zaryia
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@sargentd said:

going off this review all of them

While the main character is a self-described murder machine, the rest of your friends are well-rounded and avoid falling into a pitfall of homicidal archetypes. The perpetually shirtless Kev, for instance, is obsessed with food and music, regularly talking about the kitchen appliances he hopes to buy when not busy DJing a party. Neena, on the other hand, is a mechanic who loves restoring classic cars but also has an appreciation for art and an interest in gallery curation. Then there's Eli, the strategist and aspirational entrepreneur of the group. He's averse to violence but spends his off-hours LARPing in the desert and shooting like-minded individuals with foam bullets.

How is that even remotely political?

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#23 SargentD
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@zaryia: it's PC saints row. Woke saints row.

One of the characters enjoys larping in deserts shooting foam bullets.

This game can go **** itself

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#24  Edited By Zaryia
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@sargentd said:

@zaryia: it's PC saints row. Woke saints row.

One of the characters enjoys larping in deserts shooting foam bullets.

This game can go **** itself

That's just one character, and it's supposed to be a joke. Your actual character goes on massive murder sprees. The review you just quoted mentioned those characters were one of the only decent things about this trash game.

That's still not political, by definition.

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#25  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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Trash game Deep Silver ignored their hardcore fans and tried to cater to the Woke Zoomers I hope this game fails financially and kills the studio play stupid games win stupid prizes. I'm LMAO at all of the low score reviews such good shit it's most likely this game will bomb financially.

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How long until Twitter begins to complain about the scores call them out for being "homophobic".

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#27  Edited By Zaryia
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@madsnakehhh said:

How long until Twitter begins to complain about the scores call them out for being "homophobic".

That's leftists on twitter being stupid and political. Just like anyone calling this woke on the other side.

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#28 R4gn4r0k
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@zaryia said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Oooooof, why did they have to go all political, did they forget how to make a good game?

What part is political?

Replacing fun and beloved characters with politically correct ones.

Just an honest question here: why do so many devs feel the need to go politically correct, and why can't they just make a good game that's you know... actually fun to play?

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#29  Edited By judaspete
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@sargentd: I'm with @zaryia here. Those characters sound weird and excentric, but not political. Maybe other parts of the game are, but what's described in your post isn't far off from Pierce (the fashionista) or Kinzie (the sexually agressive tech girl) in the old games.

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#30 Pedro
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Replacing fun and beloved characters with politically correct ones.

Just an honest question here: why do so many devs feel the need to go politically correct, and why can't they just make a good game that's you know... actually fun to play?

What are politically correct characters? Why are you connecting good games that a fun to play to these characters?

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#31 R4gn4r0k
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@Pedro said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Replacing fun and beloved characters with politically correct ones.

Just an honest question here: why do so many devs feel the need to go politically correct, and why can't they just make a good game that's you know... actually fun to play?

What are politically correct characters? Why are you connecting good games that a fun to play to these characters?

Why answer questions with another question?

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#32  Edited By madsnakehhh
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@zaryia said:
@madsnakehhh said:

How long until Twitter begins to complain about the scores call them out for being "homophobic".

That's leftists on twitter being stupid and political. Just like anyone calling this woke on the other side.

Oh that's for sure ... but those leftist will be so loud that i can almost see Kotaku writing an article about "issues" in the review system or some BS like that.

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#33  Edited By Zaryia
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@zaryia said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Oooooof, why did they have to go all political, did they forget how to make a good game?

What part is political?

Replacing fun and beloved characters with politically correct ones.

Just an honest question here: why do so many devs feel the need to go politically correct, and why can't they just make a good game that's you know... actually fun to play?

The review ITT said the characters were the only decent part of the game. And I don't see any mentions of politics anywhere. I don't see the politics angle as to why the game has bad gameplay. It seems like people are injecting politics into anything they dislike these days.

Do you mean how the characters look?

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#34 Pedro
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Why answer questions with another question?

I was not answering a question. I was asking a question. Two questions to be precise.

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@zaryia: it's trying to be politically correct...

The series got it's start being about gang warfare...

These characters are NOT good lol..

I'd argue that's where the majority of the cringe is.

This reviewer says the cringe characters are the best part.

Should have gotten a 3/10

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#36 R4gn4r0k
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@zaryia said:

The review ITT said the characters were the only decent part of the game. And I don't see any mentions of politics anywhere. I don't see how that made the devs flop on gameplay.

Do you mean because he's black? I don't see the politics angle.

Hey now, don't go putting words in my mouth now. Why you're trying to make this a race thing out of nothing is beyond me.

Conversation ends here.

@Pedro said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Why answer questions with another question?

I was not answering a question. I was asking a question. Two questions to be precise.

They replaced a fun and unique world (of old Saint's row) with modern and contemporary.

I read politically correct, if you don't, that's fine by me and I can live with that.

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#38 R4gn4r0k
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@sargentd said:

@zaryia: it's trying to be politically correct...

The series got it's start being about gang warfare...

These characters are NOT good lol..

I'd argue that's where the majority of the cringe is.

This reviewer says the cringe characters are the best part.

Should have gotten a 3/10

The cringe characters are actually the best part?

Sounds like a must play.

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@R4gn4r0k said:

They replaced a fun and unique world (of old Saint's row) with modern and contemporary.

I read politically correct, if you don't, that's fine by me and I can live with that.

Putting modern and contemporary people in a game is politically correct? What is a modern and contemporary character?

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#40  Edited By Zaryia
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Why you're trying to make this a race thing out of nothing is beyond me.

I just asked a question. Because I don't see anything political about this game other than people trying to make it political.

The game just sucks.

@R4gn4r0k said:
@sargentd said:

I'd argue that's where the majority of the cringe is.

This reviewer says the cringe characters are the best part.

The cringe characters are actually the best part?

Cringe =/= Political.

People have been reading too much news and see everything with a Red or Blue tint these days. Hell they even banned math books with climate change facts in schools of Florida, calling it "woke".

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#41 Fedor
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Not sure how "woke" the game is, but I know a social media obsessed hipster douche when I see one and this game is full of them. I couldn't possibly take the dialog in this game for 15-20 hours.

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#42  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@Pedro said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

They replaced a fun and unique world (of old Saint's row) with modern and contemporary.

I read politically correct, if you don't, that's fine by me and I can live with that.

Putting modern and contemporary people in a game is politically correct? What is a modern and contemporary character?

@zaryia said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Why you're trying to make this a race thing out of nothing is beyond me.

I just asked a question. Because I don't see anything political about this game other than people trying to make it political.

The game just sucks.

Cringe =/= Political.

People have been reading too much news and see everything with a Red or Blue tint these days. Hell they even banned math books with climate change facts in schools of Florida, calling it "woke".

Yeah, I'm not the only one in thinking this hate to break it to you...

The devs got asked by hundreds upon hundreds of fans to rewrite the setting and characters and they flat out said no.

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Listen to the first 5 seconds "Saint's Row was known for being one of the more politically incorrect titles out there"

Was known for.

Even GTA VI is already rumored to tone down the politically incorrectness.

Which brings me to:

Oooooof, why did they have to go all political, did they forget how to make a good game?

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#43 Pedro
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@R4gn4r0k: That doesn't answer my question. You said that they made the game politically correct by having modern and contemporary characters. What makes modern and contemporary characters and how are these characters politically correct?

I have not played any Saints Row games.

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#44 hardwenzen
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You know, strangely enough, this game reminds me of 343i. IF MS allows another studio developing the next Halo game, and 343i can make their own game, THIS IS EXACTLY the kind of games i would expect from them. Zoomer/hipster shitfest with extremely poorly written everything.

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#45  Edited By SargentD
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@R4gn4r0k: this saints row even existing, makes GTAV even better smh

Has nothing to do with race, Franklin would curb stomp this pencil neck foam dart larper lol

Seriously I was pretty neutral on GTAV characters, pretty good, nothing amazing. But after seeing these characters. Maybe GTA5 really is the masterpiece of all crime open world.

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@Pedro: First of all I never used the words Politically correct. I did use the words politically incorrect in my last post, context is very important.

Secondly, I think turning down political incorectness in games is political.

If I play a game about World War 2 I want there to be nazis and communists, what's so wrong with having those?

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#47  Edited By Zaryia
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Was known for.

Just watched that.

The remainder of his review, actually discussing this game, mentions no politics. That's because there is nothing political in here.

@R4gn4r0k said:

The devs got asked by hundreds upon hundreds of fans to rewrite the setting and characters and they flat out said no.

I've been reading some of those....

The trailer of the Saints Row reboot shows a new cast of characters that resemble that of a shitty Netflix original TV show with your typical strong black female lead paired with another soy munching latina woman and your trope gay white male side-character and obligatory Asian character.

🤦‍♂️

The game sucks because the bugs and gameplay suck. Not because how some characters look.

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@hardwenzen: Halo got a 9 on Gamespot. Better than that trash Horizon game no one remembers.

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#49  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@zaryia: turning down political incorectness in games is political. That is my statement.

Also good lord, you really are going out of your way now to call me racist, aren't you.

And for what? What's your goal here. Second time I see you trying to put racist words in my mouth 🤮

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#50  Edited By hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: Halo got a 9 on Gamespot. Better than that trash Horizon game no one remembers.

You're cringe mesome. Real cringe.

A 9 upside down is a 6. This is the real hidden score of Halo Infinite the GS didn't have the balls to give.