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#1 RyuRanVII
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Interview with Scott Miller in Matt Chat show. They also talks about Max Payne, Prey, Duke Nukem: Forever, 3D Realms and immortality.

Link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhPvXw4cZGc

What do you thing about it?

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#2 noodlevixen
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I think that people need to put their crystal balls away and actually wait and see what happens.

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#3 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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...Who? :|
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#4 sethman410
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Many experts says so. And it does seem likely because of current trends in technology evolution.
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#6 PC_Otter
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I think consoles will just ultimately revert back into being like computers more than anything. They'll be closed systems like laptops and phones are, with either limited to no upgradability beyond the OS and perhaps mass storage device. We might still have handheld consoles, but even then they are more likely to be killed off by phones than normal TV console systems. My main hope is too see a larger variance in OSs and computing architectures, beyond ARM, x86, Windows, Mac OS, and Linux.

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#7 gamebreakerz__
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Consoles will ALWAYS have the advantage of a lower startup cost than PC gaming and therefore will never die.
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#8 theuncharted34
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never heard of this guy, and he's an idiot.

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#9 RyuRanVII
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Link fixed.

And a little help to 10 years old players who doesn't know who Scott Miller is: "Miller started as game programmer, but now handles primary business duties of 3D Realms, as well as producing and co-designing all third-party games associated with the company, including Wolfenstein 3D, Raptor: Call of the Shadows, Terminal Velocity, Max Payne and Prey."

And before saying anything, just watch the video. His vision on the future of consoles is very plausible. ;)

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Link fixed.

And a little help to 10 years old players who doesn't know who Scott Miller is: "Miller started as game programmer, but now handles primary business duties of 3D Realms, as well as producing and co-designing all third-party games associated with the company, including Wolfenstein 3D, Raptor: Call of the Shadows, Terminal Velocity, Max Payne and Prey."

And before saying anything, just watch the video. His vision on the future of consoles is very plausible. ;)

RyuRanVII

10 year old players? are you serious? :?

when attempting to bash a system or consoles in general you should think your statements through.

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#11 Arach666
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Yeah,I´ve seen it yesterday,good interview. And lol at those who don´t know who Scott Miller is.

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#12 Pray_to_me
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Consoles yes but desktops no? Lol oh-ho :lol:

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[QUOTE="RyuRanVII"]

Link fixed.

And a little help to 10 years old players who doesn't know who Scott Miller is: "Miller started as game programmer, but now handles primary business duties of 3D Realms, as well as producing and co-designing all third-party games associated with the company, including Wolfenstein 3D, Raptor: Call of the Shadows, Terminal Velocity, Max Payne and Prey."

And before saying anything, just watch the video. His vision on the future of consoles is very plausible. ;)

theuncharted34

10 year old players? are you serious? :?

when attempting to bash a system or consoles in general you should think your statements through.

You seem to think he was referring to console gamers, he wasn't. Maybe you should read carefully next time ;) He is taking a jab at youger gamers who do not know who this man is.

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#14 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="RyuRanVII"]

Link fixed.

And a little help to 10 years old players who doesn't know who Scott Miller is: "Miller started as game programmer, but now handles primary business duties of 3D Realms, as well as producing and co-designing all third-party games associated with the company, including Wolfenstein 3D, Raptor: Call of the Shadows, Terminal Velocity, Max Payne and Prey."

And before saying anything, just watch the video. His vision on the future of consoles is very plausible. ;)

millerlight89

10 year old players? are you serious? :?

when attempting to bash a system or consoles in general you should think your statements through.

You seem to think he was referring to console gamers, he wasn't. Maybe you should read carefully next time ;)

doesn't matter. he still said the people who didn't know who this person was, are 10 years old.

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#15 painguy1
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Yeah maybe 2 generations from now. That is actually realistic. Or maybe we'll make the switch to DD only. I dont see everyone taking that route tho.

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#17 killzonexbox
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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]...Who? :|GreenGoblin2099

This

...Who? :|darkspineslayer
Miller is noted in the industry for his integration of marketing and gameplay hooks within a game's central concept and design. He pioneered the shareware method of game distribution where one episode of a game is released freely through digital distribution, and the follow-up episodes are sold through the company. In effect,
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#18 GreenGoblin2099
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Yeah,I´ve seen it yesterday,good interview. And lol at those who don´t know who Scott Miller is.

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lol at those who believe the crap this unkwnon guy says... :evil:

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#19 theuncharted34
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Yeah maybe 2 generations from now. That is actually realistic. Or maybe we'll make the switch to DD only. I dont see everyone taking that route tho.

painguy1

:o 8x the nyan! :3

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#20 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

Yeah,I´ve seen it yesterday,good interview. And lol at those who don´t know who Scott Miller is.

GreenGoblin2099

lol at those who believe the crap this unkwnon guy says... :evil:

Seriously though,he makes some pretty good points.
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#21 TheAcountantMan
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And the world will end in 2012. Scott Miller, should think about taking of that tin foil right about now ;).
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#22 killzonexbox
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

Yeah,I´ve seen it yesterday,good interview. And lol at those who don´t know who Scott Miller is.

GreenGoblin2099

lol at those who believe the crap this unkwnon guy says... :evil:

Apogee and 3D Realms Part 1

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#23 painguy1
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[QUOTE="painguy1"]

Yeah maybe 2 generations from now. That is actually realistic. Or maybe we'll make the switch to DD only. I dont see everyone taking that route tho.

theuncharted34

:o 8x the nyan! :3

bow down to the power of NYAN CAT!!!!

On topic: Scott Miller is from 3DRealms ppl

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#24 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

10 year old players? are you serious? :?

when attempting to bash a system or consoles in general you should think your statements through.

theuncharted34

You seem to think he was referring to console gamers, he wasn't. Maybe you should read carefully next time ;)

doesn't matter. he still said the people who didn't know who this person was, are 10 years old.

It's called sarcasm, not really a big deal.
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#25 Zero5000X
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What he says makes sense and is the same stuff many many people are predicting. If (or should I say when) gaming moves completely to the cloud there is no need for consoles. Just look at Netflix it comes integrated into many new TVs. Same thing would happen with video games.
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#26 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

Yeah maybe 2 generations from now. That is actually realistic. Or maybe we'll make the switch to DD only. I dont see everyone taking that route tho.

painguy1

:o 8x the nyan! :3

bow down to the power of NYAN CAT!!!!

On topic: Scott Miller is from 3DRealms ppl

wow that first cat does not look happy. :P

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#27 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] You seem to think he was referring to console gamers, he wasn't. Maybe you should read carefully next time ;)millerlight89

doesn't matter. he still said the people who didn't know who this person was, are 10 years old.

It's called sarcasm, not really a big deal.

it doesn't make sense though, I know developers that have been around longer than him.

alright though, I'll drop it.

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#28 Lionheart08
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Not at all. At most, Consoles will fully conform to Digital Distribution.

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#29 gamer-adam1
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we are in the last "console" gen

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#30 jjccjj92
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I agree. OnLive may be ahead of its time right now, but cloud gaming/DD is undoubtedly the future. I don't know anyone with any knowledge of how the industry works that would dispute that.

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#31 moistsandwich
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I'm 33 and I didn't know who Scott Miller was... ??? so fricken what? Am I supposed to know the first and last names of everyone who has worked on every game? In order to be "teh mature gamer"?

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#32 RandoIph
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I'm 33 and I didn't know who Scott Miller was... ??? so fricken what? Am I supposed to know the first and last names of everyone who has worked on every game? In order to be "teh mature gamer"?

moistsandwich
I'm 30 and I'm thinking the same thing. He works for 3d Realms, so? Isn't that the grossly incompetent company that spent more than a decade developing Duke Nukem Forever? The game that had to be salvaged by Take Two to ever see the light of day? I wouldn't brag about that at this point if I was him.
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#33 Vari3ty
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Yeah maybe 2 generations from now. That is actually realistic. Or maybe we'll make the switch to DD only. I dont see everyone taking that route tho.

painguy1

Two generations from now could be anything from 15-20 years. So yes, it is quite plausible there will be no more consoles. Nothing special about this prediction folks, move right along.

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#34 painguy1
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[QUOTE="painguy1"]

Yeah maybe 2 generations from now. That is actually realistic. Or maybe we'll make the switch to DD only. I dont see everyone taking that route tho.

Vari3ty

Two generations from now could be anything from 15-20 years. So yes, it is quite plausible there will be no more consoles. Nothing special about this prediction folks, move right along.

I was assuming that we still go by the 5/6 year cycle. Which it seems like we're still following.

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#35 darkfox101
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There getting closer and closer to computers... hardly affordable as well.
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#36 Vari3ty
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[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

Yeah maybe 2 generations from now. That is actually realistic. Or maybe we'll make the switch to DD only. I dont see everyone taking that route tho.

painguy1

Two generations from now could be anything from 15-20 years. So yes, it is quite plausible there will be no more consoles. Nothing special about this prediction folks, move right along.

I was assuming that we still go by the 5/6 year cycle. Which it seems like we're still following.

Quite possibly. But let's say the next Xbox comes out in 2013. That's an 8 year life cycle, and if the console after that (if there is one) lasts a similar length, I do think 15 years is a fairly accurate prediction.

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#37 MrSelf-Destruct
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Who the hell is Scott Miller?
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#38 XenoLair
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Well if everything moves to mobile devices I think you can just kill me now.
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#39 tomarlyn
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Yeah, I remember when people like this said cinema's were going to die because of VCR's :roll:

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#40 lamprey263
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great way to predict, if he's right he can say something like "I so called that" and if he's wrong he can be like "OMG I said that like 10 years ago, get off it"
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#41 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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He does make some good points, that we have heard before from all over the industry. So If the Industry all seems to have this idea, then ofcourse it Will happen, because... you know they are the industry.

What he as talking about in the interview (for those too lazy to click the link) Is that the consoles themselves will vanish, not the console gaming. Basicly cloud gaming, kind of like Onlive just integrated into TV's The reasonings he gave was from an industry standpoint, and those were very sound, and very interesting.

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#42 killzonexbox
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Who the hell is Scott Miller? MrSelf-Destruct
He pioneered the shareware method of game distribution where one episode of a game is released freely through digital distribution, and the follow-up episodes are sold through the company.
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Now all your Nyan cat is belong to me! HAHAHAHA! NYAN! :twisted:

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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]Who the hell is Scott Miller? killzonexbox
He pioneered the shareware method of game distribution where one episode of a game is released freely through digital distribution, and the follow-up episodes are sold through the company.

Oh... Well that's nice, I guess.
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#45 Vari3ty
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One thing that is important to remember is the big three aren't going to just "let" consoles die. If it's profitable (which consoles are) the companies will be fighting to keep them, so consoles may stick around longer if only because the big three try to make as much as possible from their established brands. It's not like Sony and Microsoft are going to shutdown the Playstation and Xbox brands one day because "the future is here".

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#46 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

Yeah,I´ve seen it yesterday,good interview. And lol at those who don´t know who Scott Miller is.

GreenGoblin2099

lol at those who believe the crap this unkwnon guy says... :evil:

Scot Miller has been in the industry for decades. His opinion holds more weight than the average SW person.

And yeah, watch the video first..

Kojima said the same things.

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#47 killzonexbox
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[QUOTE="killzonexbox"][QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]Who the hell is Scott Miller? MrSelf-Destruct
He pioneered the shareware method of game distribution where one episode of a game is released freely through digital distribution, and the follow-up episodes are sold through the company.

Oh... Well that's nice, I guess.

also known as demo. No problem..
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#48 silversix_
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Two cycles is like what, 20years? Who cares what happens in 20years :lol:
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#49 dakan45
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That says all. Right the reason gaming industry has been more sucessfull than ever will die :lol:

This is more funny than the people who believe cod will die :lol:....for the same reason as said above ^

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#50 DillonShwing
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Yeah,I´ve seen it yesterday,good interview. And lol at those who don´t know who Scott Miller is.

Arach666

Perhaps there are some people who don't let video games dominate their lives to the point where they actually care who some nobody is in the game industry.