Shogun 2: Total War [ULTIMATE HYPE THREAD][PCG 92, GI 95, EDGE 9, Euro 9, SG 93]

More info on PC Gamer UK Review

It mentions that diplomacy is "key" with the AI being very proactive - mentions breaking off relations though. It seems there is a literal Honour stat for your clan leader, affected by betrayal of allies and wot not. Seems like for the player at least, breaking alliances is a huge deal - civic unrest, diplomatic penalties across the board etc.

INTERESTING! at some point in the game when your power reaches a tipping point, all the clans unite to stop you, intended to prevent late game steam rollering explicitly. Missions still in, rewards can include military and civic "buffs" for a few turns.

AI is mentioned as improved from Empire, the reviewer claims the difficulty level does affect ai behaviour in battles, flanking etc. AI apparently also uses campaign map terrain features well, defends passes, camps on hills etc - no problems for the AI launching naval assaults. His "only" criticism with the AI is that when archers run out of ammo the AI is lax about sending them in to support melee (sounds like a pretty minor complaint to me) "Time will tell if Shogun 2 has worse sins to commit, but in the time Ive spent with it, the AI shows a marked improvement."

Very little detail given about sieges.

More info on PC Gamer UK Review

It mentions that diplomacy is "key" with the AI being very proactive - mentions breaking off relations though. It seems there is a literal Honour stat for your clan leader, affected by betrayal of allies and wot not. Seems like for the player at least, breaking alliances is a huge deal - civic unrest, diplomatic penalties across the board etc.

INTERESTING! at some point in the game when your power reaches a tipping point, all the clans unite to stop you, intended to prevent late game steam rollering explicitly. Missions still in, rewards can include military and civic "buffs" for a few turns.

AI is mentioned as improved from Empire, the reviewer claims the difficulty level does affect ai behaviour in battles, flanking etc. AI apparently also uses campaign map terrain features well, defends passes, camps on hills etc - no problems for the AI launching naval assaults. His "only" criticism with the AI is that when archers run out of ammo the AI is lax about sending them in to support melee (sounds like a pretty minor complaint to me) "Time will tell if Shogun 2 has worse sins to commit, but in the time Ive spent with it, the AI shows a marked improvement."

Very little detail given about sieges.

RyuRanVII

Shogun 2: Total War Demo to Release February 22.

Good news, people!

Sega's confirmed that Total War: Shogun 2 will get a Steam demo on February 22.

More info on PC Gamer UK Review

It mentions that diplomacy is "key" with the AI being very proactive - mentions breaking off relations though. It seems there is a literal Honour stat for your clan leader, affected by betrayal of allies and wot not. Seems like for the player at least, breaking alliances is a huge deal - civic unrest, diplomatic penalties across the board etc.

INTERESTING! at some point in the game when your power reaches a tipping point, all the clans unite to stop you, intended to prevent late game steam rollering explicitly. Missions still in, rewards can include military and civic "buffs" for a few turns.

AI is mentioned as improved from Empire, the reviewer claims the difficulty level does affect ai behaviour in battles, flanking etc. AI apparently also uses campaign map terrain features well, defends passes, camps on hills etc - no problems for the AI launching naval assaults. His "only" criticism with the AI is that when archers run out of ammo the AI is lax about sending them in to support melee (sounds like a pretty minor complaint to me) "Time will tell if Shogun 2 has worse sins to commit, but in the time Ive spent with it, the AI shows a marked improvement."

Very little detail given about sieges.

RyuRanVII

Going to wait a couple of months before i pick this up. Total wars games always have buggy launches :x

Probably gonna be 9, I can't wait for this I love all the TW games

I will create the most badass ninja ever made.

And cry tears when he dies of old age. :cry:

Multiplayer Overview

Finally the multiplayer mode Total War deserves. :D :D

Video Here

I think this is one of those games where it really doesn't matter what number gamespot gives it. I know it's going to be awesome. You know it's going to be awesome. What more is there to say?

Free Bump to get ready for the demo tomorrow :)lawlessx

Free Bump to get ready for the demo tomorrow :)lawlessx

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]Free Bump to get ready for the demo tomorrow :)tagyhag

how does this game differ in the rome games. they seem similar

HaloReachGOTY

The different setting, resulting in different units and campaign conditions. Plus a bunch of other expanded stuff.

I just hopes this runs nicer than ETW/NTW. ETW and the NTW demo gave me annoying perfomance issues.

Demo released on Steam

5 GB - Tutorial, 2 Historic Battles, Mini-campaign (with auto-resolve in battles) and full encyclopedia. :D

Let's celebrate this epic moment!

Empire Total War was incredibly boring. I expect the same with this. The last good Total War game was Rome.percech

[QUOTE="percech"]Empire Total War was incredibly boring. I expect the same with this. The last good Total War game was Rome.tagyhag

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="percech"]Empire Total War was incredibly boring. I expect the same with this. The last good Total War game was Rome.Stevo_the_gamer

I enjoyed RTW over Empire. It wasn't boring by any means, but I think the historical setting/army makeup of RTW, made it more intereseting.

Legions>Red Coats.

Empire Total War was a great game.

What is this... I don't even... Empire Total War was boring? Last good Total War game was Rome? Wat. *head explodes*Stevo_the_gamer

Yeah I found it boring after the first 2 hours. :P

But I did enjoy Medieval II. :D

Also, this.demo.is.AMAZING.

Downloading the demo now! I hardly ever play demos but this in an excpetion

Medival 2 is one of my favorite games ever, and definatly my most played game of the year so far

Demo runs perfectly, but for some reason it doesn't have any options for the anti-aliasing. If it's the same thing on the real game I'll just have to force it.

Models still look great.

Cavalry vs. spearmen, SILLY ENEMY! ^_^

At least a horse got out alive. :o

Though I'm not a huge fan of sunset settings, it still looks fantastical. (And Thank GOD archers are back)

It's funny how during the tutorial, there's a MASSIVE battle going on that you don't even have to worry about (And it's being completely rendered at the same time)

You can max the game with a 5770 if anyone was worried. SAGE_OF_FIRE

I haven't played a Total War since Rome, so maybe i'll pick this one...well, as long as i upgrade my graphics card.

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]You can max the game with a 5770 if anyone was worried. ShadowDeathX

AA is confirmed off for the demo only. The full game will have ingame AA.

AA is confirmed off for the demo only. The full game will have ingame AA.

Kinthalis

Its such a dumb design decision.

Otherwise I'm loving the demo.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]You can max the game with a 5770 if anyone was worried. SAGE_OF_FIRE

I do have one major gripe with the game. Performance is awful yet again. Empire TW had the same problem. I am getting 22fps on the campaign map and havent checked the battle map. Such a shame that CA can't seem to optimize its games properly. There is something really wrong with the engine. Im hoping the demo is just an early build and the optimization is much better in the final build. Im not holding my breath though.

I do have one major gripe with the game. Performance is awful yet again. Empire TW had the same problem. I am getting 22fps on the campaign map and havent checked the battle map. Such a shame that CA can't seem to optimize its games properly. There is something really wrong with the engine. Im hoping the demo is just an early build and the optimization is much better in the final build. Im not holding my breath though.

Fizzman

Something is wrong then, I have it Maxed (1920x1080) w/ everything enabled -AA as it was disabled in the demo.

I have a smooth framerate the campaign map is at a steady mid50s-60fps and battles I drop alittle into the 40s-50s, 60 if I stay up high.
I dropped once into the low 20s on the third manual battle but that was to be expected as allot was going on.

And you have a better Rig than I do. I'm running with an Q9550 @ 3.4 & GTX 570 stock.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I do have one major gripe with the game. Performance is awful yet again. Empire TW had the same problem. I am getting 22fps on the campaign map and havent checked the battle map. Such a shame that CA can't seem to optimize its games properly. There is something really wrong with the engine. Im hoping the demo is just an early build and the optimization is much better in the final build. Im not holding my breath though.

Krayzie_3334

Something is wrong then, I have it Maxed (1920x1080) w/ everything enabled -AA as it was disabled in the demo.

I have a smooth framerate the campaign map is at a steady mid50s-60fps and battles I drop alittle into the 40s-50s, 60 if I stay up high.
I dropped once into the low 20s on the third manual battle but that was to be expected as allot was going on.

And you have a better Rig than I do. I'm running with an Q9550 @ 3.4 & GTX 570 stock.

Yeah IDK why Shogun 2TW series hates my PC. ETW is 70+ fps on campaign map and 70+ on battle map. Its the same engine so Im hoping the demo is just a very early build.

i hope they shake on the gameplay more. I have been playing this series for years its starting to get a bit old. I think it will get aa-aaa for sure .

Well went over to the Steam forums fo Shogun 2 and getting some similar reports. Damn you CA. I will now wait to purchase the game until other people who bought the game can verify that the demo build is not the same as the retail build.