Should Sony completely redesign their controller next-gen?

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#101 PCgameruk
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No, there's nothing wrong with it.

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#102 Bruce_Benzing
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No just take out key features and tell everyone that the features are 'last gen' Then put them back in and charge people for new controllers. Just like they did this gen...

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#103 Michael0134567
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I like it, but I think some minor changes would be nice.

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#104 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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lol! Really though?...Who gives a damn about any of that beyond the quality of the controller. A controller iconic status is about as important as a Kim Kardashian's love life. If I show any non-gamer a controller, their mind is going to register one thing -- it's meant to play video games. Brand regonizition on a controller doesn't mean anything.

It won't sell a console. It's not like its a game or something -- like Mario sells people on a Nintendo console or Halo selling people on a MS console. Besides, MS and Nintendo changed their controllers and they're doing just fine right?

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It doesn't have to sell consoles, if it gets Sonys name in a conversation then it's job done. All they have to do is relate the controller to the system and the image of the controller has done its job. To you it may be an afterthought and not mean much but it means something to someone.

MS didn't completely redesign their controller, they just tweaked it a bit. It's still the same basic layout and colour scheme. Nintendo changed it over and over because the systems changed over and over. A dreamcast had a different controller than an N64 because they were different systems and need new controllers to differentiate themselves from one another. Sony hasn't changed theirs because they are all Playstation controllers. They follow a sequence and carry on from the last system. It's very different.

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#105 Ghost120x
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Make the sticks easier to grip by making them go inwards like the 360's. fix the lame triggers.
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#106 bleehum
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No, it's fine the way it is. Why the hell change something just for the sake of change? That's stupid.
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#107 mariokart64fan
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Lol At the ouya haha they copied xbox dc gc n64 as it is lol so no id rather have it the same as the ps2 controller get rid of that defective/always breaking trigger , can't stand it

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#108 coasterguy65
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The basic concept is solid on the DS. They just need to make it more ergonomic and curved to fit in your hands better. Similar to the 360 controller. Of course they also need to fix the triggers and the position of the triggers.

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#109 HalcyonScarlet
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The insides are fine and the layout is ok, but I think it's held back by some sort of strange sense of pride.

The left analog stick is proven to be better when it's not so close to the other one, everyone else who designs a controller has done this.

The shape of the 360 controller just fits the human hand better. It's not really up for debate, it's just better contoured for the hand. MS copied it them selves they didn't come up with the shape.

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#110 RulerofGondor
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No, just fix the triggers and you are good to go
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#111 Malta_1980
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Not a complete redesign, just some minor changes (like triggers and make it slightly bigger in size)..

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#112 jeffster85
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nothing too major. make L2/R2 more trigger-esque, and a little bigger(including more spacing between the analogs) since a lot of people complain about it being too small. other than that, nothing really needs changed. although i wanted the boomerang controller. that thing looked sexy :P
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#113 RR360DD
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Yes, Nintendo already have.

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Its only a matter of time before Sony does the same :twisted:

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#114 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Yes, Nintendo already have.

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Its only a matter of time before Sony does the same :twisted:

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I'm telling you, the 360 controller has the best and most comfortable shape of any modern controller; it's good Nintendo recognized that and aped it, I think Sony should do it too.
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#115 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Yes, Nintendo already have.

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Its only a matter of time before Sony does the same :twisted:

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I'm telling you, the 360 controller has the best and most comfortable shape of any modern controller; it's good Nintendo recognized that and aped it, I think Sony should do it too.

along with improvements, such as fixing the terrible D-pad of the 360 controller.

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#116 dream431ca
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One thing that needs a redesign. That D-Pad design.

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What? You gotta be joking. What has a better D-pad this gen?

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#117 Gue1
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No, it's fine the way it is. Why the hell change something just for the sake of change? That's stupid.bleehum

because the triggers suck.

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#118 kweeni
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I like the controller the way it is now but if they decide to change it I hope they won't f*ck it up.
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#119 YoshiYogurt
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Yes, Nintendo already have.

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Its only a matter of time before Sony does the same :twisted:

Jonwh18

I'm telling you, the 360 controller has the best and most comfortable shape of any modern controller; it's good Nintendo recognized that and aped it, I think Sony should do it too.

along with improvements, such as fixing the terrible D-pad of the 360 controller.

Nintendo has a patent on their D-pads, and I just got he halo 4 360 controller with "transforming d-pad" and it's not even an improvement at all. It still sucks and doesn't feel right. Why couldn't MS make a good d-pad? Even sony has a pretty nice d-pad, the 4 separate arrows actually work quite nicely.
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#120 ShadowsDemon
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It's fine as it is.
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#121 Cherokee_Jack
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People always seem to say "The Dualshock is outdated" when they really mean "I don't like the Dualshock design". Do they imagine it makes their argument more valid or something?
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#122 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Yes, Nintendo already have.

original.jpg

Its only a matter of time before Sony does the same :twisted:

charizard1605
I'm telling you, the 360 controller has the best and most comfortable shape of any modern controller; it's good Nintendo recognized that and aped it, I think Sony should do it too.

I have to agree with this. The 360 controller is by far the most comfortable and best designed controller for console or pc. Except if sony copies it, they would probably do a better job with the d-pad.
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#123 GhettoBlastin92
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No, the PS3 controller is great.
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#124 santoron
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Tweak it? Sure. Namely the triggers. No big deal there, Sony tweaks it regularly over the years.

Complete redesign? No, the rest of the industry has slowly moved to ape it over the years, so unless osmeone comes up with a superior idea, the general design is likely going to remain.

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#125 BPoole96
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Sony should add some more bulk to the handles so it isn't so light. I also wouldn't complain if they made the controller a bit wider so that my thumbs wouldn't rub together (I don't like the offset analogs on the 360 pad).

Lastly, the L2/R2 buttons should either be full fledged triggers, or buttons like the DS2 had. After excessive use, the triggers become flimsy and can be depressed by the slightest touch. After playing a lot of GTA, which used L2/R2 for driving, I could literally have the controller register button presses by shaking the controller. I ended up having the buy a new DS3 after that.

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#126 Big_Pecks
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It's a good controller, but they should try to innovate (with their own ideas.)

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#127 GamerZem
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I always found the Playstation controllers to feel a little weird. So yes.

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#128 funsohng
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Completely? Maybe not, but they do need to redesign certain aspects. Like how slippery the analog stick is. Or how the whole thing is too small and doesn't fit normal hands properly compared to other controllers like 360 or GC controller. And the trigger. Wait, you know what, just change the whole thing.
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#129 CleanPlayer
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Sure why not. They've had the same controller for almost a decade and a half, it's time for a change! Reinventing the brand is important to stay relevant.
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#130 campzor
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**** no... best controller out there... you want it to change so we can have something like the 360 pad? no thanks.
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#131 psymon100
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Keep offering the Dual Shock 3 for the puritans on the PS4, backwards compatability like Wii U.

Release the new console with a new controller - yes, redesign.

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#132 Bruce_Benzing
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We know what Cows really want.......

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#133 finalfantasy94
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We know what Cows really want.......

Bruce_Benzing

im no cow but I sure as hell dont want that.

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#134 Cheleman
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We know what Cows really want.......

Bruce_Benzing

why you buy another one? did yours break?:lol:

ladies and gentleman... the 360 controller's quality!

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#135 Bruce_Benzing
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[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]

We know what Cows really want.......

Cheleman

why you buy another one? did yours break?:lol:

ladies and gentleman... the 360 controller's quality!

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Obviously reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. A PS3 owner bought a 360 controller because they realized it was the better controller, but had to return it because it didn't work with their PS3. So it's obvious which control design PS3 owners really want...

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#136 NamelessPlayer
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Make the redesigned L2/R2 triggers concave, and just make the build quality more sturdy. Maybe even make the D-Pad into a typical Nintendo cross, like that one modded DualShock pic I saw that had a transplanted SNES D-Pad in it. The missing center part bugs a lot of people, though I can live with it. Other than that, there isn't anything else I would really change with the DualShock 3. It's a good design, albeit just a smidge less ergonomic than the Xbox 360 gamepad. Oh, and Sony better not pull a Microsoft and remove pressure sensitivity from the face buttons next-gen. It just might come in handy, albeit less so if they've already given up on backwards compatibility. (DS3 pressure-sensitive buttons really come in handy on backwards-compatible PS3s and certain PS2 games, and yes, some original Xbox games also took advantage of pressure-sensitive A/B/X/Y/B/W.)
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#137 Cherokee_Jack
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Make the redesigned L2/R2 triggers concave, and just make the build quality more sturdy. Maybe even make the D-Pad into a typical Nintendo cross, like that one modded DualShock pic I saw that had a transplanted SNES D-Pad in it.NamelessPlayer

Nope. Patented by Nintendo.

Which is fine, because I actually think the separated design is better for non-movement applications like selecting weapons.

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#138 Cheleman
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Obviously reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. A PS3 owner bought a 360 controller because they realized it was the better controller, but had to return it because it didn't work with their PS3. So it's obvious which control design PS3 owners really want...

Bruce_Benzing

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#139 Bruce_Benzing
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[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]

Obviously reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. A PS3 owner bought a 360 controller because they realized it was the better controller, but had to return it because it didn't work with their PS3. So it's obvious which control design PS3 owners really want...

Cheleman

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Nice to know, even you agree. You want the next PS controller design to be like the 360 controller...:P

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#140 NamelessPlayer
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Nope. Patented by Nintendo. Which is fine, because I actually think the separated design is better for non-movement applications like selecting weapons.

Patented by Nintendo, perhaps, but why is it that I see a bunch of third-party gamepads with the same basic cross design, even for rival consoles, and Nintendo didn't sue the pants off of them? ...Now that I think about it, forget about the Nintendo cross. The Sega Genesis/Saturn D-Pad would be even better! Note that I want a D-Pad that fares well for both direct cardinal inputs (like your weapon-switching example) and diagonal inputs and rolling motions (most notoriously fighting games).
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#141 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

One thing that needs a redesign. That D-Pad design.

dream431ca

What? You gotta be joking. What has a better D-pad this gen?

I'm not joking. While the D-Pad works, the outside look of it is just bad and at times, feels uncomfortable.
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#142 finalfantasy94
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The insides are fine and the layout is ok, but I think it's held back by some sort of strange sense of pride.

The left analog stick is proven to be better when it's not so close to the other one, everyone else who designs a controller has done this.

The shape of the 360 controller just fits the human hand better. It's not really up for debate, it's just better contoured for the hand. MS copied it them selves they didn't come up with the shape.

HalcyonScarlet

what proof? I enjoy the stick placement more then the 360 ones.

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#143 Cheleman
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[QUOTE="Cheleman"]

[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]

Obviously reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. A PS3 owner bought a 360 controller because they realized it was the better controller, but had to return it because it didn't work with their PS3. So it's obvious which control design PS3 owners really want...

Bruce_Benzing

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Nice to know, even you agree. You want the next PS controller design to be like the 360 controller...:P

oh.. the irony:P

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#144 Cherokee_Jack
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Patented by Nintendo, perhaps, but why is it that I see a bunch of third-party gamepads with the same basic cross design, even for rival consoles, and Nintendo didn't sue the pants off of them?NamelessPlayer

Most often they tweak it so it's just different enough to evade infringement. But it's harder for Sony and MS to do that because they're much more visible and advantageous targets to Nintendo and their lawyers.

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#145 finalfantasy94
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People always seem to say "The Dualshock is outdated" when they really mean "I don't like the Dualshock design". Do they imagine it makes their argument more valid or something?Cherokee_Jack

this person speaks the truth.

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#146 Ly_the_Fairy
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ps3-controller.jpg

This is what it needed to be 7 years ago.

The only thing people complained about was that it looks like a banana, and yet I personally find bananas more enjoyable to hold than the dualshock, so I don't see the problem.

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#147 StrongDeadlift
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we KNOW Sony is going to make the PS4 controller more similar to the 360 controller.

And like somebody else already said, once Sony DOES, cows will hop on the bandwagon of whatever they do.

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#148 jun_aka_pekto
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Not necessarily. But, Sony should make the DS3 more solid and durable like the 360 controller or 3rd-party PS3 controllers. The Sony-branded controllers really felt flimsy to me.

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#149 Zeviander
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No, there's nothing wrong with it.Obviously_Right
:| :lol: You can't seriously think this... can you? - the stick placement is wrong - the sticks are really loose - the ergonomics are complete sh!t - the "triggers" are the worst ever - the standard charge cable doesn't fit a proper HD living room The only positives are that it connects with Bluetooth, has a lithium-ion battery, a good d-pad and pressure sensitive buttons (that are easily replaced with proper triggers). It's due for a major overhaul. It was due in 2000 for one.
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#150 NoodleFighter
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SOME L4/R4 BUTTONS