Simple Fact: Loading times in PS3 games are shorter then 360 games.

360 games use compressed data and every time a game needs to load, the data needs to be decompressed either with RAM or in the HD. Bluray's space is utilized for decompressed data and this simple fact is why you will notice ps3 games have shorter loading times then 360.

In my experience, it's usually the other way around.

360 games use compressed data and every time a game needs to load, the data needs to be decompressed either with RAM or in the HD. Bluray's space is utilized for decompressed data and this simple fact is why you will notice ps3 games have shorter loading times then 360.

stylesPS3

In comarisions the 360 usually has the shorter of the two.

You sure do know your technology

Own both and this is untrue. Often the PS3 has longer loads, even after the install.

That is 100% not true. Also in almost all cases compressing and compressing data is tremendously faster than reading it off an optical drive uncompressed.

You should try playing a 360 instead of listening to other people. The 360 in my experience loads faster.

In my experience, it's usually the other way around.

Rob-Belmont

He won't respond any longer he got owned on the first post..

In my experience, it's usually the other way around.

Rob-Belmont

[QUOTE="Rob-Belmont"]

In my experience, it's usually the other way around.

WhyuStillAlive

Is that multi? no..

I love it when people say something like 'Simple Fact' when they don't know what they are talking about.

That is 100% not true. Also in almost all cases compressing and compressing data is tremendously faster than reading it off an optical drive uncompressed.

Teufelhuhn

The bluray player on the PS3 is slow. About the same speed as the Xbox's DVD player (I think its slitghtly slower actully).

Reading 5 times more data with the same speed takes 5 times as long speed.

This isn't everything but it sure is something. There is a reason the PS3 needs installs for many games.

You really have no idea what you're talking about. Data isn't primarily compressed so that it'll fit on disc, it's compressed so it'll fit in memory. Texture and audio data is kept in a compressed format in memory and is decompressed by the hardware when it is displayed or played.

360 games use compressed data and every time a game needs to load, the data needs to be decompressed either with RAM or in the HD. Bluray's space is utilized for decompressed data and this simple fact is why you will notice ps3 games have shorter loading times then 360.

stylesPS3

good job. First, u said 1/2 is not equal to half. Now this, you just leveled up urself great job.

[QUOTE="WhyuStillAlive"][QUOTE="Rob-Belmont"]

In my experience, it's usually the other way around.

Camer999

Is that multi? no..

I think this is necessary: cool story bro.

The bluray player on the PS3 is slow. About the same speed as the Xbox's DVD player (I think its slitghtly slower actully).

Reading 5 times more data with the same speed takes 5 times as long speed.

This isn't everything but it sure is something. There is a reason the PS3 needs installs for many games.

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="WhyuStillAlive"] Forza 2 had long loading time.WhyuStillAlive

Is that multi? no..

ok you got one game.:roll:

You really have no idea what you're talking about. Data isn't primarily compressed so that it'll fit on disc, it's compressed so it'll fit in memory. Texture and audio data is kept in a compressed format in memory and is decompressed by the hardware when it is displayed or played.

Wubba

I dont think this is quite true. Decompressing and then compressing the visual data every Tick would be really stupid. Well might be more compressed on consoles then on PC's I guess. Think its far from everything though.

360 games use compressed data and every time a game needs to load, the data needs to be decompressed either with RAM or in the HD. Bluray's space is utilized for decompressed data and this simple fact is why you will notice ps3 games have shorter loading times then 360.

stylesPS3

lol wut blue ray have longer load times theard fail/.

The bluray player on the PS3 is slow. About the same speed as the Xbox's DVD player (I think its slitghtly slower actully).

Reading 5 times more data with the same speed takes 5 times as long speed.

This isn't everything but it sure is something. There is a reason the PS3 needs installs for many games.

The bluray player on the PS3 is slow. About the same speed as the Xbox's DVD player (I think its slitghtly slower actully).

Reading 5 times more data with the same speed takes 5 times as long speed.

This isn't everything but it sure is something. There is a reason the PS3 needs installs for many games.

Hummm....i think its the other way arround. And doesnt PS3 games have mandatory installs?

Hummm....i think its the other way arround. And doesnt PS3 games have mandatory installs?

PAL360

The bluray player on the PS3 is slow. About the same speed as the Xbox's DVD player (I think its slitghtly slower actully).

Reading 5 times more data with the same speed takes 5 times as long speed.

This isn't everything but it sure is something. There is a reason the PS3 needs installs for many games.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="stylesPS3"] yes there is a reason, it is because blu ray holds so much data that it would be more efficient to move some of it to HD instead of reading it off the disk. T-Aldous

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

That is 100% not true. Also in almost all cases compressing and compressing data is tremendously faster than reading it off an optical drive uncompressed.

stylesPS3

The bluray player on the PS3 is slow. About the same speed as the Xbox's DVD player (I think its slitghtly slower actully).

Reading 5 times more data with the same speed takes 5 times as long speed.

This isn't everything but it sure is something. There is a reason the PS3 needs installs for many games.

[QUOTE="T-Aldous"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] No. What about multiplat games? Are you saying the game magically gets bigger because its on a blu-ray disc?Richymisiak

[QUOTE="stylesPS3"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

The bluray player on the PS3 is slow. About the same speed as the Xbox's DVD player (I think its slitghtly slower actully).

Reading 5 times more data with the same speed takes 5 times as long speed.

This isn't everything but it sure is something. There is a reason the PS3 needs installs for many games.

T-Aldous

Xbox 360 Dvd is 16 mb/s and PS3 Blu-ray 9 mb/s. If I remember correctly.

The blu-ray has more room for data (Main argument for Blu-ray), thus the data can be less compressed. Five times more storage makes it possible to store Data that takes 5 times more room.

If you load 50 mb of compressed data from the xbox dvd, then it takes 3 seconds. If you load 200 mb uncompressed data (same data) from the Ps3 blu-ray it takes 21 seconds.

In order to have less compressed data (Relieve the Cell of some duties) its a good idea too have Installs as a complement.

Basicly, face it: Devs have less compression on PS3 games. The nearly only possible outcome of this is longer load times, or installs.

[QUOTE="T-Aldous"][QUOTE="stylesPS3"] yes there is a reason, it is because blu ray holds so much data that it would be more efficient to move some of it to HD instead of reading it off the disk. omgimba

Xbox 360 Dvd is 16 mb/s and PS3 Blu-ray 9 mb/s. If I remember correctly.

The blu-ray has more room for data (Main argument for Blu-ray), thus the data can be less compressed. Five times more storage makes it possible to store Data that takes 5 times more room.

If you load 50 mb of compressed data from the xbox dvd, then it takes 3 seconds. If you load 200 mb uncompressed data (same data) from the Ps3 blu-ray it takes 21 seconds.

In order to have less compressed data (Relieve the Cell of some duties) its a good idea too have Installs as a complement.

Basicly, face it: Devs have less compression on PS3 games. The nearly only possible outcome of this is longer load times, or installs.

You do realise many games load SLOWER on the PS3 even AFTER install.-Pred-Alien-

Well if they did full installs I bet it would be fine :P

But eating 20GB of HD space would probably make people complain.

lol are you kidding me?GTA IV on PS3 gave me like 5-7 loading screens..when xbox 360 version only goes through 3-5

lol are you kidding me?GTA IV on PS3 gave me like 5-7 loading screens..when xbox 360 version only goes through 3-5

LinKuei_warrior

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lol are you kidding me?GTA IV on PS3 gave me like 5-7 loading screens..when xbox 360 version only goes through 3-5

stylesPS3

lol are you kidding me?GTA IV on PS3 gave me like 5-7 loading screens..when xbox 360 version only goes through 3-5

[QUOTE="Wubba"]

You really have no idea what you're talking about. Data isn't primarily compressed so that it'll fit on disc, it's compressed so it'll fit in memory. Texture and audio data is kept in a compressed format in memory and is decompressed by the hardware when it is displayed or played.

omgimba

I dont think this is quite true. Decompressing and then compressing the visual data every Tick would be really stupid. Well might be more compressed on consoles then on PC's I guess. Think its far from everything though.

All consoles have proprietary compression hardware to do this work for them. Do the math on a large 2048x2048 32 bit texture that many games are using. You really think they decompress those into memory? Or what about audio? A typical .wma is about 6 megs compressed. In it's uncompressed raw PCM .wav format, its closer to 50 megs. You think they uncompress that into memory? Besides, I didn't say 'everything' was handled that way.

In theory the PS3 load times would be way longer because the Blu-Ray Drive has a read speed of 2x while the Xbox 360's DVD-ROM drive has a read speed of 12x. But this major difference is lessened because data is writen to the Blu-Ray disk 2-3 times to increase loading or mandatory installs are required.

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"][QUOTE="stylesPS3"] ive played both, and you are lying. ps3 version is not even a single second when entering into your house or other loading screens.stylesPS3

simple fact: you are wrong

doesnt get bigger, just uses more space because the data is kept decompressed. stylesPS3