Sleeping Dogs: Xbox 360 takes another win aganist the PS3.

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#201 TheWalkingGhost
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Hey Hermit...Don't care. New meme right there.
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#202 freedomfreak
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Of course it looks better on the 360.

Anyone saying they look identical are just fanboys trying to justify their purchase.

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#203 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="shadiezz2012"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="shadiezz2012"] yeah because uncharted 3 didn't deserve those awards it's Conspiracy i tell you that's lame logic for you if it's gears 3 you would be Sing another song "let's brag about multiplat games that never push any console at all because our exclusives can't win gfx awards like ps3 exclusives"

no it actually didnt on consoles there were comparably good looking games and on pc vastly superior and then you have the fact the game is a general downgrade from uc2.

let me see .. if your opinion mean any thing !!...hmmmmmmmmmm no .. facts are facts sorry and i love how you lames run to pc every time it proven that most ps3 exclusives are the best looking games on consoles keep going

god your a moron and a cow since you started posting youve talked more about the consoles and your pref for the ps3 no one is buying the hermit claims and yes facts are facts this is gamespot and last i checked 9.5>9.0
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#204 delta3074
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It's funny how when we discuss multiplats being better on 360 that cows have to run and hide behind either the Pc or Change the subject to Ps3 exclusives, we are not here to discuss whether it is on the PC as well, we are not here to discuss Ps3 exclusives, this thread is about how ,yet again, a multiplat is superior on the 360 to the Ps3 version.
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#205 ultimate-k
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The good ol console wars still going on.

And PC rapes em both.

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#206 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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and like 99.9% of multiplatforms, the differences are so small that you need a website to tell you that there is any. Yet, you see idiots using it as a superioty complexe and other idiots taking offense to it.

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#207 ronvalencia
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You have such a raging hard on for AMD.

Also looking at benchmark results the 7970 was behind the GTX 680 at 1080P and not many gamers game at 2560x1600.

I like how that graph is also very misleading but Nvidia does the same thing and I find it very stupid.

Heck here is a benchamrk from a GTX 570 at 1080P.

Keep an eye on the High AA version.

http://www.abload.de/img/sleep11ns6o.jpg

And here is a 7970 with high AA.

RyviusARC

My Radeon HD 7950 "Ghz Edition" from Sapphire R7950 900 Mhz Edition. VRAM still at default speed.

Voltage is at 1.1 V (from V1.07) and it's less than AMD's official BIOS 7950 Boost Edition (7950 BE) i.e. 1.2V

Everything is maxed (including world density set to extreme) except for AA.

Intel Core i5-2500K still set to normal.

sleeping_dogs_7950_GE.jpg

NVIDIA Geforce GTX 670's scores. Note the SSAO is set to normal, it's unknown if the world detail is set to extreme.

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#208 cfstar
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Both versions look and play identical. Digital Foundry is just a site made for fanboys to help them feel less insecure about their system purchase.

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You poor, poor thing.
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#209 tormentos
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] Gears 3 is on Par and does better things and vise versa.loosingENDS

Better image quality- Uncharted Physics- Uncharted Animation -Uncharted Better shadowing- Uncharted AA uncharted gears has non. Elements effect,water,fire,sand simulation-Uncharted Characters detail- Uncharted by a long shot characters will even get their hair wet. Textures very close Uncharted. Lighting very close Gears i concede. Particle effects Gears.

Gears 3 destroys Uncharted 3 visually, especially in image quality, scale, action on screen, detail, motion blur effect etc etc

There is not even a comparisson there really, Uncharted 3 looks a generation behind Gears 3 (and two behind Halo 4)

Hahahaha...oh god what ...lol
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#210 PAL360
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and like 99.9% of multiplatforms, the differences are so small that you need a website to tell you that there is any. Yet, you see idiots using it as a superioty complexe and other idiots taking offense to it.

da_illest101

This is system wars afterall...

At least that multiplat slight superiority is something objective. Far more ineresting is how cows use their subjective opinion on how their banana look better than our orange, as ownage!

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#211 PAL360
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Better image quality- Uncharted Physics- Uncharted Animation -Uncharted Better shadowing- Uncharted AA uncharted gears has non. Elements effect,water,fire,sand simulation-Uncharted Characters detail- Uncharted by a long shot characters will even get their hair wet. Textures very close Uncharted. Lighting very close Gears i concede. Particle effects Gears. tormentos

Gears 3 destroys Uncharted 3 visually, especially in image quality, scale, action on screen, detail, motion blur effect etc etc

There is not even a comparisson there really, Uncharted 3 looks a generation behind Gears 3 (and two behind Halo 4)

Hahahaha...oh god what ...lol

Yes, he is a fanboy. Remembers me a lem version of you, shadowmoses and others.

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#212 tormentos
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Cross game chat>Home, also, why bring up Vita when it's 360 vs PS3, might as well throw the 3DS in there.mitu123
Probably in your dreams cross game chat is ruining team play on games,is the reason Activision block it in certain mods on COD it was use to cheat,on Gears it has always been use for that when you are the last player.. Home is a virtual place,when you can create a virtual home,have a virtual characters,play a ton of different games,visit places for certain games made by developers it self,play mini games as well,you can even watch E3 from withing it,launch games after planning with your friends from inside home,play bowling,poll and many other games.. Cross game chat is not even comparable is just voice chat across different games,the only thing is does it allot you to talk with people in other game,it has no real value what so ever,and like i told you from my own personal experience ruin games,many were the Halo matches i play that we loss because people were not in contact with each other. I bring the Vita just like i talked about Cell phones having all those features the xbox 360 have which are hide under a pay scheme,i also mention the PC and you say nothing,not only the Vita has on PC you can also cross game chat dude...Once again free So who is brain washed here...
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Yes, he is a fanboy. Remembers me a lem version of you, shadowmoses and others.PAL360
Actually he can be your alter ego for all we know..
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#214 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Better image quality- Uncharted Physics- Uncharted Animation -Uncharted Better shadowing- Uncharted AA uncharted gears has non. Elements effect,water,fire,sand simulation-Uncharted Characters detail- Uncharted by a long shot characters will even get their hair wet. Textures very close Uncharted. Lighting very close Gears i concede. Particle effects Gears. tormentos

Gears 3 destroys Uncharted 3 visually, especially in image quality, scale, action on screen, detail, motion blur effect etc etc

There is not even a comparisson there really, Uncharted 3 looks a generation behind Gears 3 (and two behind Halo 4)

Hahahaha...oh god what ...lol

you're just as bad as him exaggerating.
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#215 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] LOL i give you the animations and AA but the rest you're just showing the inner bovine.

Please the fact that you try to only name AA and animation says it all,Uncharted 3 basically mop the floor with Gears in characters detail and Physics to by a long shot. wow...

UC3 physics are nothing special,most of the use is pre baked,while gears physics are all real time,even the destructible environments which UC3 lack of it.
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#216 tormentos
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This is system wars afterall...

At least that multiplat slight superiority is something objective. Far more ineresting is how cows use their subjective opinion on how their banana look better than our orange, as ownage!PAL360

Really objective.? lol Free online play in all multiplatforms games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 frames less and a missing patch of grass.. Objective is a matter of opinion,all 360 games with multiplayer are gimped and need something extra to work,you don't the complete experience out of the box period,PS3 fans do,how is that ignore by 360 fans is beyond logic,people who will hype 3 frames more,refuse to weight in when the topic is a complete experience which you miss if you don't pay the scam fee. Oh by the way already links were posted from Beyond 3D the developer was lazy and ported the code from console to console which explain FXAA on GPU on the PS3 which we all know will cripple performance,while doing it on Cell would not... Again Uncharted 3 look better is 720P and has AA,hell the game is sub HD on both consoles,that tell you something about the developer when Gears also look better and is 720p.

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#217 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="da_illest101"]

and like 99.9% of multiplatforms, the differences are so small that you need a website to tell you that there is any. Yet, you see idiots using it as a superioty complexe and other idiots taking offense to it.

PAL360

This is system wars afterall...

At least that multiplat slight superiority is something objective. Far more ineresting is how cows use their subjective opinion on how their banana look better than our orange, as ownage!

He's right though, your average gamer couldn't tell the diff without help from a website or a magnifying glass. Just admit it, both sides act pretty stupid here.

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#218 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="tormentos"] Better image quality- Uncharted Physics- Uncharted Animation -Uncharted Better shadowing- Uncharted AA uncharted gears has non. Elements effect,water,fire,sand simulation-Uncharted Characters detail- Uncharted by a long shot characters will even get their hair wet. Textures very close Uncharted. Lighting very close Gears i concede. Particle effects Gears. Gue1

LOL i give you the animations and AA but the rest you're just showing the inner bovine.

Except for the textures and AA the rest is pretty spot on. Best textures are from Rage and best AA is MLAA on GOWIII.

edit: oh crap, I forgot you're that idiot from that thread! X(

oh look you still butthurt since that day..man what getting owned does to people..amazing indeed..,keep it butthurt brah :cool:

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#219 DeX2010
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For the fanboys:

Sleeping Dogs Gameplay (PS3)

Sleeping Dogs Gameplay (360)

Anyone who says they see a difference between the two versions is lying.

Here is the PC version also:

Sleeping Dogs Gameplay [PC]

I think I rest my case. But people are going to believe whatever makes them feel better. If one version truly was better you would be able to see it clear as day, you wouldn't need a website to tell you it. Besides if you cared about graphics that much you would just get a PS3.


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The Xbox360 version is clearly sharper and clearer than the PS3. It's pretty easy to see but in practice makes little difference. It is ridiculous to argue over console graphics at this stage in the generation.
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#221 delta3074
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]This is system wars afterall...

At least that multiplat slight superiority is something objective. Far more ineresting is how cows use their subjective opinion on how their banana look better than our orange, as ownage!tormentos

Really objective.? lol Free online play in all multiplatforms games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 frames less and a missing patch of grass.. Objective is a matter of opinion,all 360 games with multiplayer are gimped and need something extra to work,you don't the complete experience out of the box period,PS3 fans do,how is that ignore by 360 fans is beyond logic,people who will hype 3 frames more,refuse to weight in when the topic is a complete experience which you miss if you don't pay the scam fee. Oh by the way already links were posted from Beyond 3D the developer was lazy and ported the code from console to console which explain FXAA on GPU on the PS3 which we all know will cripple performance,while doing it on Cell would not... Again Uncharted 3 look better is 720P and has AA,hell the game is sub HD on both consoles,that tell you something about the developer when Gears also look better and is 720p.

you are an idiot, when talking about how a game performs on the technical level free online doesn't come into the equation, it has nothing to do with the games actual performance at the technical level, and yes, when comparing games at a technical level the evidence is objective, it's something that can be measured whereas how a game actually looks is a subjective opinion, you can measure FPS performance=objective, you can measure screen tearing=Objective and you can measure load times=Objective, you obviously hve no clue what the word objective actually means, the Fact that you would rather have Free online over an extra 2 FPS is purely your SUBJECTIVE opinion.
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#222 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]Yes, he is a fanboy. Remembers me a lem version of you, shadowmoses and others.tormentos
Actually he can be your alter ego for all we know..

Well, the 'worst' thing about PS3 that comes to my mind, is that its a capable console. As capable as the 360, and both very impressive considering their age.

Of course, for a fanboy like you and LoosingEnds, that would be an insult, since your investment must be 10.000 times better than the competition. For a gamer, on the other hand, those are great news :)

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#223 delta3074
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="PAL360"]Yes, he is a fanboy. Remembers me a lem version of you, shadowmoses and others.PAL360

Actually he can be your alter ego for all we know..

Well, the 'worst' thing about PS3 that comes to my mind, is that its a capable console. As capable as the 360, and both very impressive considering their age.

Of course, for a fanboy like you and LoosingEnds, that would be an insult, since your investment must be 10.000 times better than the competition. For a gamer, on the other hand, those are great news :)

Agreed, although the 360 is my weapon of choice both consoles are awesome in there own right, i just prefer what the 360 has to offer because it has more WRPG's and to me Halo is the best shooter out there (i love Sci-Fi), i can even concede that Ps3 exclusives have marginally better graphics sometimes, to UC3 is on Par with gears 3 but UC3 has a slight edge in graphical fidelity due to having better (not perfect) Anti aliasing, cows are angry because they intitially paid a lot more for a console that turned out only to be marginally more powerful than the 360 due to having a Gimped GPU.
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#224 tormentos
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"] UC3 physics are nothing special,most of the use is pre baked,while gears physics are all real time,even the destructible environments which UC3 lack of it.

Pre baked physic on Uncharted 3..lol Wow you just loss any bit of credibility you have less,Uncharted 3 physic are real time dude.. "You may have seen the cruise ship level. What people may not realise is that it's not just a big object that we are animating, it's one enormous physics object whose movement is driven by another dynamic system we have in the game: our new dynamic sea system. So each time that Drake rocks around on the deck of that ship the movement he is subject to is unique." ""Perhaps the most impressive element of the new technology in Uncharted 3 is the way in which its most impressive effects are based around natural elements and materials: the various water systems in the cruise ship, the way that fire acts as a dynamic light source when Drake holds a torch, the atmospheric rendering of smoke - recreating natural elements like this and making them look so realistic is no mean feat, but it's the area in which Naughty Dog excels. For a game where the desert is so important, Naughty Dog's implementation of sand in terms of pixel shaders and surrounding effects work is nothing short of remarkable."" ""It's not just the look of the effects, it's their application in terms of gameplay. The cruise ship is the highlight of the water technology: the animation of the ship itself within the ocean, plus the rushing water of the breached hull, even the water in the swimming pool is sublimely animated. However, preceding this stage are areas of gameplay where Drake is in direct contact with the ocean, where the height of the water-line itself can be of crucial importance in deciding where to go next, what to do, and whether a stealthy approach is viable or not."" ""Fire is the most destructive of the elements and it is here that Naughty Dog does some of its best work, marrying the uncanny effect with some excellent use of the destruction system that sees scenery collapse, breaking into component pieces and literally razing the impressive Chateau level to the ground."" Uncharted 3 Physics are not baked bro...
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#225 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] UC3 physics are nothing special,most of the use is pre baked,while gears physics are all real time,even the destructible environments which UC3 lack of it.

Pre baked physic on Uncharted 3..lol Wow you just loss any bit of credibility you have less,Uncharted 3 physic are real time dude.. "You may have seen the cruise ship level. What people may not realise is that it's not just a big object that we are animating, it's one enormous physics object whose movement is driven by another dynamic system we have in the game: our new dynamic sea system. So each time that Drake rocks around on the deck of that ship the movement he is subject to is unique." ""Perhaps the most impressive element of the new technology in Uncharted 3 is the way in which its most impressive effects are based around natural elements and materials: the various water systems in the cruise ship, the way that fire acts as a dynamic light source when Drake holds a torch, the atmospheric rendering of smoke - recreating natural elements like this and making them look so realistic is no mean feat, but it's the area in which Naughty Dog excels. For a game where the desert is so important, Naughty Dog's implementation of sand in terms of pixel shaders and surrounding effects work is nothing short of remarkable."" ""It's not just the look of the effects, it's their application in terms of gameplay. The cruise ship is the highlight of the water technology: the animation of the ship itself within the ocean, plus the rushing water of the breached hull, even the water in the swimming pool is sublimely animated. However, preceding this stage are areas of gameplay where Drake is in direct contact with the ocean, where the height of the water-line itself can be of crucial importance in deciding where to go next, what to do, and whether a stealthy approach is viable or not."" ""Fire is the most destructive of the elements and it is here that Naughty Dog does some of its best work, marrying the uncanny effect with some excellent use of the destruction system that sees scenery collapse, breaking into component pieces and literally razing the impressive Chateau level to the ground."" Uncharted 3 Physics are not baked bro...

yet just one level and still has no use of destructible environments like most games out now,example gears 3..let alone the superior destruction of Crysis 2 and Battlefield 3.
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Agreed, although the 360 is my weapon of choice both consoles are awesome in there own right, i just prefer what the 360 has to offer because it has more WRPG's and to me Halo is the best shooter out there (i love Sci-Fi), i can even concede that Ps3 exclusives have marginally better graphics sometimes, to UC3 is on Par with gears 3 but UC3 has a slight edge in graphical fidelity due to having better (not perfect) Anti aliasing, cows are angry because they intitially paid a lot more for a console that turned out only to be marginally more powerful than the 360 due to having a Gimped GPU.delta3074
You agree with another lemming i am in shock..hold the presses... Uncharted 3 is a step abode Gears 3,and you know it,physics,animations,graphic fidelity,water,fire,sand simulation,character detail,AA.. all are in favor of Uncharted 3 all of the,and is not debatable period,lighting is something gears wins but not by allot considering Uncharted 3 has some incredible lighting and an even more impressive shadow system,which is very apparent in stages like Chateau stage which also display some incredible great fire effects superior to those found on Gears. As for the cow angry comment it could only come from a true lemming,because well there many things inside that $600 model PS3 that were not present on 360,and which add in cost actually make the 360 more expensive,but since you are a lemming and will refute to admit them i will point it to you once more.. Blu-ray.. On 2006 was $1,000 stand alone even on PC a PC drive was $999,the closes thing on 360 was a pathetic add on which was alone $200 dollars. Wifi was build in on PS3,on 360 it was $99 dollars on 2006. 60GB HDD,3 times the size of the 360 one,so if you wanted more space 20GB more was $99 on 2006,and there wasn't 120GB or 250 big drives for 360 back then. Free online play... On 360 $50 dollars a year on 2006. So lets see to have all the things the PS3 had included you need to spend on 2006.. $400 premium 360. $200 for HD-DVD. $99 for Wifi. $50 dollars for online play. And $20 for a charge and play kit since the PS3 has build in rechargeable battery. So that comes to... $770 dollars.... Funny there was a $500 PS3 which was $50 more than a premium 360 with live $50 damn dollars more,and you get blu-ray with it that was $1000 stand alone $200 minimum on 360 for something similar,the PS3 on 2006 make the xbox 360 look like an arm robbery..
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#227 tormentos
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"] yet just one level and still has no use of destructible environments like most games out now,example gears 3..let alone the superior destruction of Crysis 2 and Battlefield 3.

You loss the argument give it up dude,you claim the game had baked Physics on Uncharted 3 Physics are dynamic..
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#228 PAL360
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]Agreed, although the 360 is my weapon of choice both consoles are awesome in there own right, i just prefer what the 360 has to offer because it has more WRPG's and to me Halo is the best shooter out there (i love Sci-Fi), i can even concede that Ps3 exclusives have marginally better graphics sometimes, to UC3 is on Par with gears 3 but UC3 has a slight edge in graphical fidelity due to having better (not perfect) Anti aliasing, cows are angry because they intitially paid a lot more for a console that turned out only to be marginally more powerful than the 360 due to having a Gimped GPU.tormentos
You agree with another lemming i am in shock..hold the presses... Uncharted 3 is a step abode Gears 3,and you know it,physics,animations,graphic fidelity,water,fire,sand simulation,character detail,AA.. all are in favor of Uncharted 3 all of the,and is not debatable period,lighting is something gears wins but not by allot considering Uncharted 3 has some incredible lighting and an even more impressive shadow system,which is very apparent in stages like Chateau stage which also display some incredible great fire effects superior to those found on Gears. As for the cow angry comment it could only come from a true lemming,because well there many things inside that $600 model PS3 that were not present on 360,and which add in cost actually make the 360 more expensive,but since you are a lemming and will refute to admit them i will point it to you once more.. Blu-ray.. On 2006 was $1,000 stand alone even on PC a PC drive was $999,the closes thing on 360 was a pathetic add on which was alone $200 dollars. Wifi was build in on PS3,on 360 it was $99 dollars on 2006. 60GB HDD,3 times the size of the 360 one,so if you wanted more space 20GB more was $99 on 2006,and there wasn't 120GB or 250 big drives for 360 back then. Free online play... On 360 $50 dollars a year on 2006. So lets see to have all the things the PS3 had included you need to spend on 2006.. $400 premium 360. $200 for HD-DVD. $99 for Wifi. $50 dollars for online play. And $20 for a charge and play kit since the PS3 has build in rechargeable battery. So that comes to... $770 dollars.... Funny there was a $500 PS3 which was $50 more than a premium 360 with live $50 damn dollars more,and you get blu-ray with it that was $1000 stand alone $200 minimum on 360 for something similar,the PS3 on 2006 make the xbox 360 look like an arm robbery..

Non fanboys Sony supporters are probably hidden because of arrogant brainwashed ones like you, who make the whole comunity look bad. Isnt it sad?

The world say: Both consoles are great and equally capable.

Sony fanboys say: PS3 is infinitely better because Sony told me it would be.

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#229 todd2r_Partdeux
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]Agreed, although the 360 is my weapon of choice both consoles are awesome in there own right, i just prefer what the 360 has to offer because it has more WRPG's and to me Halo is the best shooter out there (i love Sci-Fi), i can even concede that Ps3 exclusives have marginally better graphics sometimes, to UC3 is on Par with gears 3 but UC3 has a slight edge in graphical fidelity due to having better (not perfect) Anti aliasing, cows are angry because they intitially paid a lot more for a console that turned out only to be marginally more powerful than the 360 due to having a Gimped GPU.tormentos
You agree with another lemming i am in shock..hold the presses... Uncharted 3 is a step abode Gears 3,and you know it,physics,animations,graphic fidelity,water,fire,sand simulation,character detail,AA.. all are in favor of Uncharted 3 all of the,and is not debatable period,lighting is something gears wins but not by allot considering Uncharted 3 has some incredible lighting and an even more impressive shadow system,which is very apparent in stages like Chateau stage which also display some incredible great fire effects superior to those found on Gears. As for the cow angry comment it could only come from a true lemming,because well there many things inside that $600 model PS3 that were not present on 360,and which add in cost actually make the 360 more expensive,but since you are a lemming and will refute to admit them i will point it to you once more.. Blu-ray.. On 2006 was $1,000 stand alone even on PC a PC drive was $999,the closes thing on 360 was a pathetic add on which was alone $200 dollars. Wifi was build in on PS3,on 360 it was $99 dollars on 2006. 60GB HDD,3 times the size of the 360 one,so if you wanted more space 20GB more was $99 on 2006,and there wasn't 120GB or 250 big drives for 360 back then. Free online play... On 360 $50 dollars a year on 2006. So lets see to have all the things the PS3 had included you need to spend on 2006.. $400 premium 360. $200 for HD-DVD. $99 for Wifi. $50 dollars for online play. And $20 for a charge and play kit since the PS3 has build in rechargeable battery. So that comes to... $770 dollars.... Funny there was a $500 PS3 which was $50 more than a premium 360 with live $50 damn dollars more,and you get blu-ray with it that was $1000 stand alone $200 minimum on 360 for something similar,the PS3 on 2006 make the xbox 360 look like an arm robbery..

You're such an epic fail tormentos. Why don't you get back to the original topic instead of trying to change it to make yourself feel better about your ps3. There's really nothing you can do to help the ps3 here. 6 years after the release of the almighty ps3 and you're still getting inferior multiplats. It's just sad and pathetic. The ps3 is such a failure.
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#230 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]Agreed, although the 360 is my weapon of choice both consoles are awesome in there own right, i just prefer what the 360 has to offer because it has more WRPG's and to me Halo is the best shooter out there (i love Sci-Fi), i can even concede that Ps3 exclusives have marginally better graphics sometimes, to UC3 is on Par with gears 3 but UC3 has a slight edge in graphical fidelity due to having better (not perfect) Anti aliasing, cows are angry because they intitially paid a lot more for a console that turned out only to be marginally more powerful than the 360 due to having a Gimped GPU.tormentos
You agree with another lemming i am in shock..hold the presses... Uncharted 3 is a step abode Gears 3,and you know it,physics,animations,graphic fidelity,water,fire,sand simulation,character detail,AA.. all are in favor of Uncharted 3 all of the,and is not debatable period,lighting is something gears wins but not by allot considering Uncharted 3 has some incredible lighting and an even more impressive shadow system,which is very apparent in stages like Chateau stage which also display some incredible great fire effects superior to those found on Gears. As for the cow angry comment it could only come from a true lemming,because well there many things inside that $600 model PS3 that were not present on 360,and which add in cost actually make the 360 more expensive,but since you are a lemming and will refute to admit them i will point it to you once more.. Blu-ray.. On 2006 was $1,000 stand alone even on PC a PC drive was $999,the closes thing on 360 was a pathetic add on which was alone $200 dollars. Wifi was build in on PS3,on 360 it was $99 dollars on 2006. 60GB HDD,3 times the size of the 360 one,so if you wanted more space 20GB more was $99 on 2006,and there wasn't 120GB or 250 big drives for 360 back then. Free online play... On 360 $50 dollars a year on 2006. So lets see to have all the things the PS3 had included you need to spend on 2006.. $400 premium 360. $200 for HD-DVD. $99 for Wifi. $50 dollars for online play. And $20 for a charge and play kit since the PS3 has build in rechargeable battery. So that comes to... $770 dollars.... Funny there was a $500 PS3 which was $50 more than a premium 360 with live $50 damn dollars more,and you get blu-ray with it that was $1000 stand alone $200 minimum on 360 for something similar,the PS3 on 2006 make the xbox 360 look like an arm robbery..

But gears 3 beats UC3 in particle physics, the lighting is just as good because it uses Unreal lightmass global illumination and it has destructible enviroments (something gamers take for granted these days), also, don't try that stupid price argument with me, i bought a 360 WITH A HDD for 280 quid when it released the Ps3 was 425 quid, My 360 was HD out of the box because the composite cable is HD, the Ps3 you have to buy a HDMI cable and stop adding Non -essentials to the cost of the 360, wi-fi is not necessary, the HD-DVD add on is not neccessary and i use batterys so i didn't buy a Plug and play charge kit, it makes the controller heavier and i can get 20 batterys for under a quid and try replacing the Rechargeable battery in the Ps3 controller, ALL batterys lose ther charge eventually, even li-ion batterys ,don't try and say otherwise cos you will just look stupid
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#231 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] yet just one level and still has no use of destructible environments like most games out now,example gears 3..let alone the superior destruction of Crysis 2 and Battlefield 3.

You loss the argument give it up dude,you claim the game had baked Physics on Uncharted 3 Physics are dynamic..

they are baked / predetermined when it comes to destruction,give it up already..you're making your plastic girlfriend look even more badly.
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#232 tormentos
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you are an idiot, when talking about how a game performs on the technical level free online doesn't come into the equation, it has nothing to do with the games actual performance at the technical level, and yes, when comparing games at a technical level the evidence is objective, it's something that can be measured whereas how a game actually looks is a subjective opinion, you can measure FPS performance=objective, you can measure screen tearing=Objective and you can measure load times=Objective, you obviously hve no clue what the word objective actually means, the Fact that you would rather have Free online over an extra 2 FPS is purely your SUBJECTIVE opinion.delta3074
No is not objective dude,because what we are talking here is like having a race were both cars perform basically the same,with one having a little bit higher peak performance,the race is a Rally one,the 360 has Rally tires,while the PS3 drag racing tires... So who will have the advantage when both cars had almost the same peak.? This is the problem with multiplatform games is not that the 360 is more capable in multiplatform games,is that developer don't care period you can deny like a true lemming with you friend,but this is a fact and the original xbox is a true testament of 3rd parties not caring,hell most sud HD games are mutliplatform i wonder why,because Gears 3 basically look better than all of them as is not sub HD. See were i am going.? Trying to use multiplatform games as objective base for graphics supremacy is a joke,3rd party developers just care for a playable version,even Crysis developer could not hit 720p on either 360 or PS3,while Epic and ND did with game that look better,but since they make some games with 1 hardware in mind,they don't have the problems others developers have. The online part was to show a point,because this 2 games running are almost identical,yet one offer a complete experience out of the box the other doesn't,that is far more important for me and many that 3 frames loss..
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#233 ultimate-k
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Console fanboys are bad on here.

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#234 tormentos
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But gears 3 beats UC3 in particle physics, the lighting is just as good because it uses Unreal lightmass global illumination and it has destructible enviroments (something gamers take for granted these days), also, don't try that stupid price argument with me, i bought a 360 WITH A HDD for 280 quid when it released the Ps3 was 425 quid, My 360 was HD out of the box because the composite cable is HD, the Ps3 you have to buy a HDMI cable and stop adding Non -essentials to the cost of the 360, wi-fi is not necessary, the HD-DVD add on is not neccessary and i use batterys so i didn't buy a Plug and play charge kit, it makes the controller heavier and i can get 20 batterys for under a quid and try replacing the Rechargeable battery in the Ps3 controller, ALL batterys lose ther charge eventually, even li-ion batterys ,don't try and say otherwise cos you will just look stupiddelta3074
The in particle effects,on Physics Uncharted 3 beat gear by a considerable margin,maybe you should ask your wife for the PS3 and play Uncharted 3. Uncharted also has destructible environment,but like gears far and few are,most things on Gears are not interactive or destructible at least not by the character,interaction between water and characters is almost null to not say non existent,when drake will even get wet when he splash water,remember the spinning textures to simulate fire in several places.. This small things when pile up are many.. First of all it was you who make the stupid comment about PS3 fans paying way more,i did not stated that those things were require,but since you claim that i pay more for a PS3,i told you why and were ever you want to admit it or not,the PS3 was Blu-ray which was $1,000 stand alone period there is not argument you can invent that erase that,the PS3 was 425 Quads.? How much was a stand alone Blu-ray player on UK on 2006.? Since you actually try so hard to prove the 360 is so much cheaper and great value i think you need to read this.. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Samsung-Introduces-UK-039-s-First-Blu-Ray-Player-36691.shtml Blu-ray on UK was £1,000 on launch by the holidays it was expected to be £900 so a PS3 which by the way was the best damn blu-ray player on 2006,with a price tag of £425 was a steal.. http://www.whathifi.com/News/Samsung-launches-Blu-ray-player-for-249-plus-1349-50in-plasma/ On June 2008 Samsung introduce a new model carrying a price tag of £249 which is almost what you pay for your 360 but several years latter so even on 2008 Blu-ray stand alone was more expensive than a 360,so basically to match what the PS3 offer on UK on 2006 you need to spend £1180 to £1280 for something similar to the PS3,because we all know you still lack online play and wifi. At £425 the PS3 was a steal on UK for what it offer,just like it was on US were the 360 was $50 lass than a $500 PS3 for a premium model with live,oh and i remind you that US is the biggest market of the 360 by far.
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#235 jun_aka_pekto
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My 360 was HD out of the box because the composite cable is HD, the Ps3 you have to buy a HDMI cable delta3074

I've been checking new 360 and PS3 gaming systems online. Both include composite cables. Composite cables are inherently sub-HD. HD cables are either HDMI or RGB component (the red, green, blue ones).

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#236 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]My 360 was HD out of the box because the composite cable is HD, the Ps3 you have to buy a HDMI cable jun_aka_pekto

I've been checking new 360 and PS3 gaming systems online. Both include composite cables. Composite cables are inherently sub-HD. HD cables are either HDMI or RGB component (the red, green, blue ones).

I'm pretty sure he meant to say component, because my original xbox came with component cables and hdmi. My PS3 came with neither.
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#237 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]My 360 was HD out of the box because the composite cable is HD, the Ps3 you have to buy a HDMI cable jun_aka_pekto

I've been checking new 360 and PS3 gaming systems online. Both include composite cables. Composite cables are inherently sub-HD. HD cables are either HDMI or RGB component (the red, green, blue ones).

the composite cable that came with my firse 360 HAD red,green and blue leads as well as the normal red, yellow and white cables had a switch to switch form SD to HD and can display 720p and 1080i but not 1080p, do your research better next time dude
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#238 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]My 360 was HD out of the box because the composite cable is HD, the Ps3 you have to buy a HDMI cable Phazevariance

I've been checking new 360 and PS3 gaming systems online. Both include composite cables. Composite cables are inherently sub-HD. HD cables are either HDMI or RGB component (the red, green, blue ones).

I'm pretty sure he meant to say component, because my original xbox came with component cables and hdmi. My PS3 came with neither.

MS seems to have taken them out. I'm checking brand new XBox 360s online. Perhaps retailers are including HD cables but not MS itself.

68-105-042-Z06?$S300W$

68-105-055-Z07?$S300W$

68-105-045-Z10?$S300W$

No HD cables. All have composite.

Edit: All from newegg.com since they tend to buy boxed hardware from the manufacturer as is.

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#239 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

I've been checking new 360 and PS3 gaming systems online. Both include composite cables. Composite cables are inherently sub-HD. HD cables are either HDMI or RGB component (the red, green, blue ones).

jun_aka_pekto

I'm pretty sure he meant to say component, because my original xbox came with component cables and hdmi. My PS3 came with neither.

MS seems to have taken them out. I'm checking brand new XBox 360s online. Perhaps retailers are including HD cables but not MS itself.

68-105-042-Z06?$S300W$

68-105-055-Z07?$S300W$

68-105-045-Z10?$S300W$

No HD cables. All have composite.

Edit: All from newegg.com since they tend to buy boxed hardware from the manufacturer as is.

they have not actually supplied HD component cables in the 360 since the release of the new 250 gb S versions, a moot point as we where discussing initial launch prices
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#240 tormentos
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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]My 360 was HD out of the box because the composite cable is HD, the Ps3 you have to buy a HDMI cable delta3074

I've been checking new 360 and PS3 gaming systems online. Both include composite cables. Composite cables are inherently sub-HD. HD cables are either HDMI or RGB component (the red, green, blue ones).

the composite cable that came with my firse 360 HAD red,green and blue leads as well as the normal red, yellow and white cables had a switch to switch form SD to HD and can display 720p and 1080i but not 1080p, do your research better next time dude

Because is a mix cable with a switch is done like that to save cost but the one that actually give you HD signal is the component one. Not even that you know..
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#241 jun_aka_pekto
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they have not actually supplied HD component cables in the 360 since the release of the new 250 gb S versions, a moot point as we where discussing initial launch pricesdelta3074

That clears it up.

It's a weird decision because when the 360 first came out, HDTVs weren't commonplace. Now that they are, MS decide to yank out the HD cable? Hmmm.:lol:

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#242 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

I've been checking new 360 and PS3 gaming systems online. Both include composite cables. Composite cables are inherently sub-HD. HD cables are either HDMI or RGB component (the red, green, blue ones).

tormentos
the composite cable that came with my firse 360 HAD red,green and blue leads as well as the normal red, yellow and white cables had a switch to switch form SD to HD and can display 720p and 1080i but not 1080p, do your research better next time dude

Because is a mix cable but the one that actually give you HD signal is the component one.

Thats what i actually meant,lol composite? i must be loosing my mind.
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#243 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]they have not actually supplied HD component cables in the 360 since the release of the new 250 gb S versions, a moot point as we where discussing initial launch pricesjun_aka_pekto

That clears it up.

It's a weird decision because when the 360 first came out, HDTVs weren't commonplace. Now that they are, MS decide to yank out the HD cable? Hmmm.:lol:

they did it with the original model 360 because the first models had no HDMI port.
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#244 tormentos
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they have not actually supplied HD component cables in the 360 since the release of the new 250 gb S versions, a moot point as we where discussing initial launch pricesdelta3074
Yeah but there is an advantage you can use any HDMI cable you don't need a sony branded one,i pay $10 dollars for mine on 2006,which is 9 times less than you would have pay for the wifi adapter from MS,since on launch the 3rd party option was no available..lol Also my PS3 had HDMI from launch,if you wanted HDMI which gives you the best picture and sound you would have to wait until the latter introduce fat model with HDMI port,which mean you had to buy a new console,my PS3 was more future proof than your 360.
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#245 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"] they have not actually supplied HD component cables in the 360 since the release of the new 250 gb S versions, a moot point as we where discussing initial launch pricestormentos
Yeah but there is an advantage you can use any HDMI cable you don't need a sony branded one,i pay $10 dollars for mine on 2006,which is 9 times less than you would have pay for the wifi adapter from MS,since on launch the 3rd party option was no available..lol Also my PS3 had HDMI from launch,if you wanted HDMI which gives you the best picture and sound you would have to wait until the latter introduce fat model with HDMI port,which mean you had to buy a new console,my PS3 was more future proof than your 360.

Wi-FI si optional though, i have never used wi-fi with my 360, Half the speed and more 'drop out' no thankyou and you say the Ps3 was more future proof but i wasn't aware that TV's had dropped support for component HD cables (RGB) both the HD teles i have in my house can support them and one of them is only 3 months old, i didn't need to buy a new console to run HD at all. , Throw in the fact that a lot of Ps3 games can't even be upscaled to 1080p because of the software upscaling and you find that having a HDMI port was never an advantage for the Ps3.
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#246 deu5ka175
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Console fanboys are bad on here.

ultimate-k
Maybe but like you said...console fanboys. If you do not have a PS3 or 360 then piss off.
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#247 tormentos
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[QUOTE="delta3074"] Wi-FI si optional though, i have never used wi-fi with my 360, Half the speed and more 'drop out' no thankyou and you say the Ps3 was more future proof but i wasn't aware that TV's had dropped support for component HD cables (RGB) both the HD teles i have in my house can support them and one of them is only 3 months old, i didn't need to buy a new console to run HD at all. , Throw in the fact that a lot of Ps3 games can't even be upscaled to 1080p because of the software upscaling and you find that having a HDMI port was never an advantage for the Ps3.

So is an HD signal. Hell the PS3 was compatible with component PS2 cables which i did own when the PS3 landed,so basically to get HD i need nothing because i already had the cables,but i bough HDMI because it was the best quality,on your 360 that wasn't possible. Half the speed. more drop outs.? Do you know that the transfer rate of wifi G was way faster on 2005,2006, that most average US home connections.? I even think most UK ones to,isn't the transfer rate more than 30MB.? Which mean that since my connection back then was like 3 MB wifi G would not many problems delivering constant data. In fact up scaling dvd to 1080p on 360 with component is impossible,it was done by HDMI,the fact that some games can't scale which i don't which,doesn't mean that HDMI wasn't an advantage 7.1 loss less audio can't be deliver over composite cables bro,you need HDMI oh wait the 360 doesn't support it even with HDMI no space on the DVD for it,the best picture quality you can't deliver Blu-ray at 1080p over component,so yeah it was an advantage... Better sound and picture quality.
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#248 delta3074
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="delta3074"] Wi-FI si optional though, i have never used wi-fi with my 360, Half the speed and more 'drop out' no thankyou and you say the Ps3 was more future proof but i wasn't aware that TV's had dropped support for component HD cables (RGB) both the HD teles i have in my house can support them and one of them is only 3 months old, i didn't need to buy a new console to run HD at all. , Throw in the fact that a lot of Ps3 games can't even be upscaled to 1080p because of the software upscaling and you find that having a HDMI port was never an advantage for the Ps3.

So is an HD signal. Hell the PS3 was compatible with component PS2 cables which i did own when the PS3 landed,so basically to get HD i need nothing because i already had the cables,but i bough HDMI because it was the best quality,on your 360 that wasn't possible. Half the speed. more drop outs.? Do you know that the transfer rate of wifi G was way faster on 2005,2006, that most average US home connections.? I even think most UK ones to,isn't the transfer rate more than 30MB.? Which mean that since my connection back then was like 3 MB wifi G would not many problems delivering constant data. In fact up scaling dvd to 1080p on 360 with component is impossible,it was done by HDMI,the fact that some games can't scale which i don't which,doesn't mean that HDMI wasn't an advantage 7.1 loss less audio can't be deliver over composite cables bro,you need HDMI oh wait the 360 doesn't support it even with HDMI no space on the DVD for it,the best picture quality you can't deliver Blu-ray at 1080p over component,so yeah it was an advantage... Better sound and picture quality.

7.1 lossless audio is only any good if you have 7+1 speakers dude,it doesn't improve sound quality significantly, so yet again you have to pay out even more to give the Ps3 an advantage, shall we throw in the cost of a 7.1 setup for the Ps3? in normal televisions, on a normal HD television you don't even get the benefit of 5.1 without the proper set-up,Funny how you start talking about moviesion agaming forum,Gamespot, not moviespot dude, btotom line is that out of the Box the 360 was HD the Ps3 was not and i can use netflix to get HD quality movies on my Xbox 360 so again, it's a moot point.
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#249 arkephonic
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I've been playing this game all weekend on PC, and guess what? Both console versions look like crap compared to the master race PC version. If you are looking for good graphics and you're playing on a console, you're doing it wrong.

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#250 clone01
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Meh, whatever. Console differences appear to be pretty minimal. And I haven't read anything that has suggested either one was definitively worse than the other.