So does this mean Uncharted 2 is still graphics queen?

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"][QUOTE="SpeedsterCards"]what the! i never wrote "graphics queen" as my topic title!!! what is going on here? did the mods do this as a joke, or have i been hacked??!!SpeedsterCards

So right now on consoles it goes:

Gears of War 3 > Crysis 2 (360) > Crysis 2 (Ps3) > Uncharted 2 (PS3)

hmmm.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Graphics Queen is on the PC if there is one. There are at least 10 PC games that look better than everything consoles has to offer on a technical level.sts106mat

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Graphics Queen is on the PC if there is one. There are at least 10 PC games that look better than everything consoles has to offer on a technical level.sts106mat

[QUOTE="CorbraMax"]

Infamous 2 also has no AA... And a unstable framerate...

Killzone 2and 3 have unstable framerates.

Uncharted 1 has screen tearing

GT5. The biggest and highest selling exclusive on the PS3 has framerate drops, pop in, and crazy screen tearing.

I can do this all day.

monkeysmoke

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

Did anyone seriously think that a game with no AA, framerate drops and screen tearing could dethrone UC2 graphically? If you want to compete with PS3 exclusives in terms of visuals, your first step should be not to use Unreal Engine.

Ironbash

Yeah right, explain to me why infamous 2 has all of those problems? Or why a crack in time is half HD? Or why God of war 3 has restricted movement walls? Or why the killzone series from 2 has turned into a corridor shooter? Or why GT5 has 20% of frames torn + regularly dips into 40 fps and TERRIBLE shadows when forza 3 never had any of these problems?

I dont understand what do you want me to explain. We are talking about the one and only console graphics king. A game that aspires for that title quite frankly needs to be perfect (as far as console graphics this gen gets). Look at the games that are widely considered graphics kings - Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 and 3 and God of War 3. What do these games have in common besides breathtaking visuals? Absolutely flawless performance. You cant take a game with annoying jaggies, torn screens and framerate issues (and even texture popins in case you happen to own 360 arcade or the one with 4GB flash memory) and put it on the same level - thats common sense.

Ad. your questions:

1) Infamous 2 is not aspiring on the graphics king title (although it still looks impressive for an open world game), no idea what it has to do with that.

2) Never heard about crack in time and I dont see any relevancy to the topic.

3) Movement walls have nothing to do with graphics.

4) Killzone 2 and 3 are corridor shooters because people buy a lot of corridor shooters. Irrelevant to the topic.

5) GT5 is not a graphics king. Once again I dont see any relevancy to what we are talking about here.

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]Gears 3 is the best looking game on consoles! Admit it Sony fanboys UC2 has been beaten by the 360 that you said could never beat UC2 in graphics. BlbecekBobecek

Not sure if serious. You have 11 pages of factual arguments about why Gears 3 is not the best looking console game and then you write on eleventh page - "Gears 3 is the best looking console game, admit it Sony fanboys"? Wow, this example should be included in encyclopedia under the word "braindead" :)

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]Gears 3 is the best looking game on consoles! Admit it Sony fanboys UC2 has been beaten by the 360 that you said could never beat UC2 in graphics. BlbecekBobecek

Not sure if serious. You have 11 pages of factual arguments about why Gears 3 is not the best looking console game and then you write on eleventh page - "Gears 3 is the best looking console game, admit it Sony fanboys"? Wow, this example should be included in encyclopedia under the word "braindead" :)

I think it's obvious 360 can match PS3 and vice versa. They're so close I think the argument is dead. It depends on the skillz of the develooper.Deathtransit

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]I think it's obvious 360 can match PS3 and vice versa. They're so close I think the argument is dead. It depends on the skillz of the develooper.delta3074

Agreed. And from what I have seen the best looking console game this gen will probably be idSofts Rage - and from what we hear from John Carmack we can expect the 360 version to be superior, so in my opinion lems will eventually get their console graphics king (or queen/god or whatever). No need to try to crown every single at least decent looking 360 game that comes out (i.e. Crysis 2, GeoW 3).

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Deathtransit"]I think it's obvious 360 can match PS3 and vice versa. They're so close I think the argument is dead. It depends on the skillz of the develooper.BlbecekBobecek

Agreed. And from what I have seen the best looking console game this gen will probably be idSofts Rage - and from what we hear from John Carmack we can expect the 360 version to be superior, so in my opinion lems will eventually get their console graphics king (or queen/god or whatever). No need to try to crown every single at least decent looking 360 game that comes out (i.e. Crysis 2, GeoW 3).

Crysis 2 and Gears 3 are not 'decent looking games' lol They look up to the best for console standards so no opinion about the best looking console game is wrong.

'Gears 3 is one of the most advanced games this gen' remember? Anyone who played Gears 3 from start to finish would agree with that.

It pains me such an argument has to even take place.

Generally the people who say Uncharted 2 looks superior haven't even play Gears of war 3. Believe me, though you don't have to; I can prove it... Gears of war 3 looks substantially better.

Though we will have to wait for Uncharted 3.

[QUOTE="Ironbash"]

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

Did anyone seriously think that a game with no AA, framerate drops and screen tearing could dethrone UC2 graphically? If you want to compete with PS3 exclusives in terms of visuals, your first step should be not to use Unreal Engine.

BlbecekBobecek

Yeah right, explain to me why infamous 2 has all of those problems? Or why a crack in time is half HD? Or why God of war 3 has restricted movement walls? Or why the killzone series from 2 has turned into a corridor shooter? Or why GT5 has 20% of frames torn + regularly dips into 40 fps and TERRIBLE shadows when forza 3 never had any of these problems?

I dont understand what do you want me to explain. We are talking about the one and only console graphics king. A game that aspires for that title quite frankly needs to be perfect (as far as console graphics this gen gets). Look at the games that are widely considered graphics kings - Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 and 3 and God of War 3. What do these games have in common besides breathtaking visuals? Absolutely flawless performance. You cant take a game with annoying jaggies, torn screens and framerate issues (and even texture popins in case you happen to own 360 arcade or the one with 4GB flash memory) and put it on the same level - thats common sense.

Ad. your questions:

1) Infamous 2 is not aspiring on the graphics king title (although it still looks impressive for an open world game), no idea what it has to do with that.

2) Never heard about crack in time and I dont see any relevancy to the topic.

3) Movement walls have nothing to do with graphics.

4) Killzone 2 and 3 are corridor shooters because people buy a lot of corridor shooters. Irrelevant to the topic.

5) GT5 is not a graphics king. Once again I dont see any relevancy to what we are talking about here.

Neither Killzone 2 or 3 have flawless performance. Killzone 2 performs worse than Gears 3.

Even God of War 3 has framerate hitches.

Your checklist for "console graphics king" makes absolutely no sense.

Oh dear even DF ranks UC2 above Gears3, one can only imagine the man slaughter UC3 would bring if Gears3 is having this much trouble even against a two years old U2 Amongst thieves. But like I said countless times here and lemmings don't still don't listen, UC2 is overall better looking and KZ3 is the current console graphics king. Crysis 2 would simply have no place here any more once UC3 and BF3 get released. gpuking

Dude. Just buy Gears 3. UC2 is a looker... But it's dated now.

Gears 3, Killzone 3, and UC3 all look better.

[QUOTE="gpuking"]Oh dear even DF ranks UC2 above Gears3, one can only imagine the man slaughter UC3 would bring if Gears3 is having this much trouble even against a two years old U2 Amongst thieves. But like I said countless times here and lemmings don't still don't listen, UC2 is overall better looking and KZ3 is the current console graphics king. Crysis 2 would simply have no place here any more once UC3 and BF3 get released. CorbraMax

Dude. Just buy Gears 3. UC2 is a looker... But it's dated now.

Gears 3, Killzone 3, and UC3 all look better.

[QUOTE="CorbraMax"]

[QUOTE="gpuking"]Oh dear even DF ranks UC2 above Gears3, one can only imagine the man slaughter UC3 would bring if Gears3 is having this much trouble even against a two years old U2 Amongst thieves. But like I said countless times here and lemmings don't still don't listen, UC2 is overall better looking and KZ3 is the current console graphics king. Crysis 2 would simply have no place here any more once UC3 and BF3 get released. gpuking

Dude. Just buy Gears 3. UC2 is a looker... But it's dated now.

Gears 3, Killzone 3, and UC3 all look better.

Generally act 1/2 didn't blow me away. Though looked pretty great. Act 3 - 5 absolutely blew me away though, no question. The anvil gate sequence was the best I've ever seen on consoles. Or the maelstrom above azura.

gears 3 just dethroned crysis 2 as the new console grahics king, but of course, it's no surprise that cows don't want to admit it.

MozartXVI

Crysis 2 was never king. Killzone 3 stomps both.

[QUOTE="CorbraMax"]

[QUOTE="gpuking"]Oh dear even DF ranks UC2 above Gears3, one can only imagine the man slaughter UC3 would bring if Gears3 is having this much trouble even against a two years old U2 Amongst thieves. But like I said countless times here and lemmings don't still don't listen, UC2 is overall better looking and KZ3 is the current console graphics king. Crysis 2 would simply have no place here any more once UC3 and BF3 get released. gpuking

Dude. Just buy Gears 3. UC2 is a looker... But it's dated now.

Gears 3, Killzone 3, and UC3 all look better.

Acts 3-5 will blow you away more.

Like I said... The obvious better things in Gears 3 is god rays, better shadowing, high resolution alphas, particle effects on display, motion blur, better texture filtering, increased foliage tech. (Check out Mercy in MP. Ridiculous amounts of grass)

And yes I own Gears 3 and Uncharted 2. I've been comparing it against Uncharted 2's best looking levels.

Gears 3 looks really good but it failed to become graphics king, it just doens't compare, it isn't as impressive as Killzine 3, UC2, God of War etc. Plus The end of the year awards will determine the truth, 360 fans can close their ears and say lalala Gears 3 wins! But at the end of the year, Gamespot will give Killzine3/Uncharted 3 best graphics. They are simply much more impressive.

Gears 3 looks really good but it failed to become graphics king, it just doens't compare, it isn't as impressive as Killzine 3, UC2, God of War etc. Plus The end of the year awards will determine the truth, 360 fans can close their ears and say lalala Gears 3 wins! But at the end of the year, Gamespot will give Killzine3/Uncharted 3 best graphics. They are simply much more impressive.

JohnDead80

So if you're missing lighting effects, have worse texture filtering, shadowing, and lower resolution alphas, and lower quality motion blur it just doesn't compare? Man I learn something new on System Wars everyday.

Oh dear even DF ranks UC2 above Gears3, one can only imagine the man slaughter UC3 would bring if Gears3 is having this much trouble even against a two years old U2 Amongst thieves. But like I said countless times here and lemmings don't still don't listen, UC2 is overall better looking and KZ3 is the current console graphics king. Crysis 2 would simply have no place here any more once UC3 and BF3 get released. gpuking