So is LBP an exclusive or not?

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#101 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]This isn't simple rules. Because some people are changing the rules in this topic. It isn't that the same name means same game.Littlebigplanet ps3 and littlebigplanet psp are two different entities. Is singstar ps3 and singstar ps2 the same?

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They have not changed any rules. They could be different games I would base it on the "story mode" more than anything else. If the story mode is basely the same than it's more or less the same game. Just like remakes and how they are never called exclusives.

The story mode is different. The user generated content (levels) is differnet. This is already known. They are different titles. Reason why I'm so bothered :(.

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#102 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="sethman410"] Ummmmm no... that's false statement.ermacness

Gears of War/Command and Conquer 3/Left4Dead/Mass Effect/Viva Pinata/LOTR: Middle-earth II/Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved/Velvet Assassin/Condemned: Criminal Origins/Assault Heroes/Frontlines: Fuel of War/Prey/Overlord/Call of Juarez/Two Worlds......

You're telling me that's a false statement?

with that list? YEAH:lol: You put Two Worlds in your list. That game alone just brought the effectiveness of that list down by like 20 points:lol:

You pick one game that you dislike and that makes his whole list bad?
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#103 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]If the core game is still the same between the two versions, then no it's not exclusive. If the two are dramatically different, then yes it is exclusive.Mario2007

then halo 3 isn't a exclusive because it is the same core gmae. This isn't what makes a game exclusive or not.

They also have to have the same title. Halo 2 and halo 3 are not the same title. I think you missed the two words "two versions" in his post.

Nah. Core game is always going to be the same in sequels. Different enviroments, different content, etc makes it exclusive. This is as different as the two if not more so. LBP PSP and PS3 will have different story modes nad levels. It will also have different user generated content levels. Two different games...

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#104 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]This isn't simple rules. Because some people are changing the rules in this topic. It isn't that the same name means same game.Littlebigplanet ps3 and littlebigplanet psp are two different entities. Is singstar ps3 and singstar ps2 the same?

nhh18

They have not changed any rules. They could be different games I would base it on the "story mode" more than anything else. If the story mode is basely the same than it's more or less the same game. Just like remakes and how they are never called exclusives.

The story mode is different. The user generated content (levels) is differnet. This is already known. They are different titles. Reason why I'm so bothered :(.

If the story mode is different than it's exclusive. Has far as I know there is no information on that though. O well time for work stevo you can take move for me.....lol
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#105 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

Gears of War/Command and Conquer 3/Left4Dead/Mass Effect/Viva Pinata/LOTR: Middle-earth II/Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved/Velvet Assassin/Condemned: Criminal Origins/Assault Heroes/Frontlines: Fuel of War/Prey/Overlord/Call of Juarez/Two Worlds......

You're telling me that's a false statement?

HarlockJC

with that list? YEAH:lol: You put Two Worlds in your list. That game alone just brought the effectiveness of that list down by like 20 points:lol:

You pick one game that you dislike and that makes his whole list bad?

It's her's Harlock :P

And ermac, Two Worlds was a good game, a flawed game, but a good game nonetheless, perhaps you should go by personal experience and not what reviewers tell you...

Care to show me the list of PS3/PS2/PSP shared exclusives?

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#106 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

Gears of War/Command and Conquer 3/Left4Dead/Mass Effect/Viva Pinata/LOTR: Middle-earth II/Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved/Velvet Assassin/Condemned: Criminal Origins/Assault Heroes/Frontlines: Fuel of War/Prey/Overlord/Call of Juarez/Two Worlds......

You're telling me that's a false statement?

HarlockJC

with that list? YEAH:lol: You put Two Worlds in your list. That game alone just brought the effectiveness of that list down by like 20 points:lol:

You pick one game that you dislike and that makes his whole list bad?

1st off, look at that list!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2ndly, have you played Two Wolds?

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#107 bphan
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Then PC games should be considered Microsoft exclusive. Since you gotta have Windows to play PC games. Everything else like videocards or manufacturers of PC can be substituted with something else.

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#108 ermacness
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="ermacness"]with that list? YEAH:lol: You put Two Worlds in your list. That game alone just brought the effectiveness of that list down by like 20 points:lol:

tagyhag

You pick one game that you dislike and that makes his whole list bad?

It's her's Harlock :P

And ermac, Two Worlds was a good game, a flawed game, but a good game nonetheless, perhaps you should go by personal experience and not what reviewers tell you...

Care to show me the list of PS3/PS2/PSP shared exclusives?

ohh, you're talking about "shared" exclusives. In that case, you might have a point and i did in fact play(or at least tried to) Two Worlds, but i couldn't bring myself to get past that horrible mess of a game to even scratch the core of it's origin

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#109 II_Seraphim_II
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Im pretty sure there are going to be some big differences between the 2 considering the game is very physics based and the PS3 CPU compeltely outshines the PSP's.
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#110 Lionheart08
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Unless it has the same exact levels, it can't be consider an exact port.

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#111 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"] You pick one game that you dislike and that makes his whole list bad? ermacness

It's her's Harlock :P

And ermac, Two Worlds was a good game, a flawed game, but a good game nonetheless, perhaps you should go by personal experience and not what reviewers tell you...

Care to show me the list of PS3/PS2/PSP shared exclusives?

ohh, you're talking about "shared" exclusives. In that case, you might have a point and i did in fact play(or at least tried to) Two Worlds, but i couldn't bring myself to get past that horrible mess of a game to even scratch the core of it's origin

Yea it's shared exclusives, the PS2 has way better games than any of the current gen consoles so it wouldn't be fair to compare it with any console. :P
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#112 mitu123
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This will count as an exclusive if it's like GRAW, or a completely different game.

Until we get more info, we're stuck for now.

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#113 Bread_or_Decide
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I can't believe we are even HAVING this debate.

Any game available on a competitors product = not exclusive.

Any game available only on one brand = exclusive.

LBP on PS3 and PSP = exclusive

L4D on 360 and PC = not exclusive

GOOD GRIEF!

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#114 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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then halo 3 isn't a exclusive because it is the same core gmae. This isn't what makes a game exclusive or not.

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lolwut? What the heck did you just say? Halo 3 isn't exclusive because it is the same core game?

What? A dog isn't a cat because it it is a dog, amirite?

Maybe you didn't quite understand the term "core game".

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#115 -Karmum-
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1) its not the same game, its massively downgraded

2) Its still a sony exclusive, as the psp is a sony product

So yes, its exclusive.

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Exactly, LBP PSP is going to be downgraded from the PS3 version. GRAW for the 360 is considered an exclusive, because all the other versions are "vastly different." Sorry, you can't have it both ways. Either the former or the latter, and I'd strongly lead toward the former. If you want GRAW as an AAAE, LBP is an AAAE.
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#116 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]then halo 3 isn't a exclusive because it is the same core gmae. This isn't what makes a game exclusive or not.

lolwut? What the heck did you just say? Halo 3 isn't exclusive because it is the same core game?

What? A dog isn't a cat because it it is a dog, amirite?

Maybe you didn't quite understand the term "core game".

Hes just making a point and i agree with him. Saying LBP is not an exclusive is like saying Halo 3 isnt exclusive.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"] Hes just making a point and i agree with him. Saying LBP is not an exclusive is like saying Halo 3 isnt exclusive.

Perhaps you should elaborate on his point, for I don't understand where he was going with the Halo aspect.
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#118 trakem
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With the PSP version coming out, with the same title and gameplay concept, will LBP remain exclusive? I mean we already don't count MLB exlusive so it only makes sense not the count LBP...

Mario2007

It's not the same game, so it's still an exclusive. When the actual game it's self is that different you're not dealing with the same game.

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#119 mitu123
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[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

1) its not the same game, its massively downgraded

2) Its still a sony exclusive, as the psp is a sony product

So yes, its exclusive.

-Karmum-

Exactly, LBP PSP is going to be downgraded from the PS3 version. GRAW for the 360 is considered an exclusive, because all the other versions are "vastly different." Sorry, you can't have it both ways. Either the former or the latter, and I'd strongly lead toward the former. If you want GRAW as an AAAE, LBP is an AAAE.

The hell they are, those other versions suck compared to the 360 GRAW due to their difference, different gameplay style and mechanics, objectives, missions, level designs, multiplayer, etc.

If LBP PSP is like that, it will count.

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I can't believe we are even HAVING this debate.

Any game available on a competitors product = not exclusive.

Any game available only on one brand = exclusive.

LBP on PS3 and PSP = exclusive

L4D on 360 and PC = not exclusive

GOOD GRIEF!

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So there exists Nintendo exclusive? THE ANSWER IS NO.
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#121 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Jandurin, at least admire the effort... :P
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#122 santoron
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The GS E3 preview of the game (which you can read here) mentions a level and a mini game both not found in the PS3 iteration, which seems to be enough to show that the actual content of the game is different from the levels and minigames from the PS3's release.

If that isn't enough for you... well we'll have more information soon. It doesn't sound like a straight port to me though.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I can't believe we are even HAVING this debate.

Any game available on a competitors product = not exclusive.

Any game available only on one brand = exclusive.

LBP on PS3 and PSP = exclusive

L4D on 360 and PC = not exclusive

GOOD GRIEF!

So there exists Nintendo exclusive? THE ANSWER IS NO.

Yes there does. The answer is yes.
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#124 RoOodriGowW
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Of course it's exclusive , psp version WON'T have multiplayer so there's no way in hell it can be considered the same thing , anyways who cares it's not like a 360 only owner will get the full experience playing the psp version unlike cows who get the best experience playing 360/PC games on their pc , assuming they have one.

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#125 mythrol
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I'd say would continue to be exclusive. Because I completely endorse the term console exclusive. No matter if it's to the benefit of Sony or Microsoft.
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System wars just gets worse and worse every year. This is bullspit and you guys know it.
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I can't believe we are even HAVING this debate.

Any game available on a competitors product = not exclusive.

Any game available only on one brand = exclusive.

LBP on PS3 and PSP = exclusive

L4D on 360 and PC = not exclusive

GOOD GRIEF!

Jandurin

So there exists Nintendo exclusive? THE ANSWER IS NO.

What about Zelda Twilight princess, and anyway, isn't LBPsp being made by entirely different devs?

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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Yes there does. The answer is yes.

Would you kindly tell me the name of this forum -- I always forget... Company Wars? No, that just doesn't sound right...
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I can't believe we are even HAVING this debate.

Any game available on a competitors product = not exclusive.

Any game available only on one brand = exclusive.

LBP on PS3 and PSP = exclusive

L4D on 360 and PC = not exclusive

GOOD GRIEF!

Nero_Paladin

So there exists Nintendo exclusive? THE ANSWER IS NO.

What about Zelda Twilight princess, and anyway, isn't LBPsp being made by entirely different devs?

Twilight Princess isn't exclusive :?
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Not just that, the Wii version is a port.
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[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I can't believe we are even HAVING this debate.

Any game available on a competitors product = not exclusive.

Any game available only on one brand = exclusive.

LBP on PS3 and PSP = exclusive

L4D on 360 and PC = not exclusive

GOOD GRIEF!

So there exists Nintendo exclusive? THE ANSWER IS NO.

What about Zelda Twilight princess, and anyway, isn't LBPsp being made by entirely different devs?

Last I checked PS3 isn't in competition with the PSP and neither is the Wii with the gamecube. This has got to be the lamest most desperate attempt at System wars ownage I have ever seen in my life and I've been gaming since the Nintendo vs. Genesis days.
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Yes there does. The answer is yes. Stevo_the_gamer
Would you kindly tell me the name of this forum -- I always forget... Company Wars? No, that just doesn't sound right...

I don't see PSP owners fighting with PS3 owners do you? We all know brand loyalty comes along with system loyalty.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Yes there does. The answer is yes. Bread_or_Decide
Would you kindly tell me the name of this forum -- I always forget... Company Wars? No, that just doesn't sound right...

I don't see PSP owners fighting with PS3 owners do you? We all know brand loyalty comes along with system loyalty.

I have a PS3 and I don't like the PSP.
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I don't see PSP owners fighting with PS3 owners do you? We all know brand loyalty comes along with system loyalty. Bread_or_Decide
We should disregard common sense because ... of brand loyalty?


I have a PS3 and I don't like the PSP.Jandurin

See bread? You have now seen the light. PSP's exclusive library so far for 2009 > PS3's exclusive library. There.

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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I can't believe we are even HAVING this debate.

Any game available on a competitors product = not exclusive.

Any game available only on one brand = exclusive.

LBP on PS3 and PSP = exclusive

L4D on 360 and PC = not exclusive

GOOD GRIEF!

So games for windows and 360 games = exclusives :?
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#136 nhh18
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My god I keep repeating the same fact over and over again. Core game means same gameplay. That is what it means. Halo 2 and halo 3 have the same GAMEPLAY. That is why I made the comparision. I mean look at one screenshot, look atone video. The two games have different content. The user generated levels are completely different due to memory. There can be less objects on screen, less physics, etc. I am not making this up. This is set in stone fact. If this isn't exclusive than System wars is even more of a bs cesspool than during the zelda tp 8.8 period. At least that was funny. This is plaint out FUD. Come on people look at one screenshot. Look at anything that has to do with the 2 games :(. It has different user generated content (the ps3 version already has a million EXCLUSIVE user generated levels). The ps3 has exclusive story mode, while psp has exclusive story mode. What else does a game need to be to be exclusive?

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I can't believe we are even HAVING this debate.

Any game available on a competitors product = not exclusive.

Any game available only on one brand = exclusive.

LBP on PS3 and PSP = exclusive

L4D on 360 and PC = not exclusive

GOOD GRIEF!

So games for windows and 360 games = exclusives :?

Microsoft doesn't make PC's.
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#138 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]I don't see PSP owners fighting with PS3 owners do you? We all know brand loyalty comes along with system loyalty. Stevo_the_gamer

We should disregard common sense because ... of brand loyalty?


I have a PS3 and I don't like the PSP.Jandurin

See bread? You have now seen the light. PSP's exclusive library so far for 2009 > PS3's exclusive library. There.

Again I never see any PSP owners trying to "own" PS3 owners.

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#139 Bread_or_Decide
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You're just playing semantics to devalue the worth of a brilliant exclusive. Come on now you are guys kidding?
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#140 Nero_Paladin
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Why can't it be: if exactly the same game is available for more than one platform it's not exclusive.

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Microsoft doesn't make PC's. Bread_or_Decide
you think the hardware is more important than the software/OS?
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#142 nhh18
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You're just playing semantics to devalue the worth of a brilliant exclusive. Come on now you are guys kidding? Bread_or_Decide
No left 4 dead is the same game. Littlebigplanet psp and ps3 are not the same game. That is a fact. My god

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Why can't it be: if exactly the same game is available for more than one platform it's not exclusive.

Nero_Paladin
that IS what it is, but they don't use the word exactly.
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#144 Nero_Paladin
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[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]

Why can't it be: if exactly the same game is available for more than one platform it's not exclusive.

Jandurin

that IS what it is, but they don't use the word exactly.

It seems simple enough, it's strange that other people can't seem to understand.

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#145 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Again I never see any PSP owners trying to "own" PS3 owners.

Bread_or_Decide

Cool. And I don't see sheep trying to own hermits -- omg, that must mean the Wii and PC are allied. :o

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#146 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Again I never see any PSP owners trying to "own" PS3 owners.

Cool. And I don't see sheep trying to own hermits -- omg, that must mean the Wii and PC are allied. :o

Actually yes they do. Wii motion > mouse and keyboard.
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#147 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Again I never see any PSP owners trying to "own" PS3 owners.

Stevo_the_gamer

Cool. And I don't see sheep trying to own hermits -- omg, that must mean the Wii and PC are allied. :o

holy crap. if you add the PC's library to the Wii's, it's almost as good as the 360's! [spoiler] Okay okay, I misspoke. It's not quite almost, but it's closer :) [/spoiler] :lol:
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#148 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Actually yes they do. Wii motion > mouse and keyboard.

And 2009 PSP Exclusive library > 2009 PS3 exclusive games. I can do that too.
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#149 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Again I never see any PSP owners trying to "own" PS3 owners.

Cool. And I don't see sheep trying to own hermits -- omg, that must mean the Wii and PC are allied. :o

Actually yes they do. Wii motion > mouse and keyboard.

first of all, that's a hardware, not software argument, secondly i haven't seen that argument since before the Wii came out :?
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#150 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Cool. And I don't see sheep trying to own hermits -- omg, that must mean the Wii and PC are allied. :o

Stevo_the_gamer

Actually yes they do. Wii motion > mouse and keyboard.

first of all, that's a hardware, not software argument, secondly i haven't seen that argument since before the Wii came out :?

I see it pop up whenever a Wii FPS rears its head. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.