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#51 ApocalypseXIVV
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Maddog brillance yet again...wasnt it proven lloooooooooooooong ago that its easy to fake the red lights...
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#52 tango90101
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M$ better come up with a solution these coming months, it's not good when your discouraged from buying a console just because of it's faulty hardware. They really dropped the ball -___-Kritical_Strike

hardware quality has never stopped a console from being #1. Just look at the ps2. terrible hardware, and took #1 last generation...

will MS fix it? i'm certain they will, but the pics of RROD will continue to come from the non-360 owneres so it's really laughable at this point...

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#53 wemhim
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Geez, I really think PC gaming will take over some day. I play consoles now mostly, but I've NEVER had a problem with a PC(Well, bugs and stuff, freezes too, but not an actual problem like.....It not working). No gens, no licensing, cool.... Oddly enough my 360 still works from American launch, one free refurb....Who pwns? I do.

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#54 ApocalypseXIVV
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Some of youDO NOT KNOW (if not all)as to what that 360 is actually set on.

LOOK AT THE FREAKING PHOTO. ITS NOT ON THE CARPET!. Look under it for crying out loud and stop damage controlling.

Cedmln

yea were all damage controlling cause a cow showed a picture of someone faking a 360's red rings, something that doesnt take a rocket scientist to do. Sorry that we all cant be as naive as Cedmin and will just beleive anything we see. Ever hear of being a little skeptical and NOT beliving everything u hear just cause someone posts a picture...

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#55 jdbthexboxgamr
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Just because the chip is new doesn't mean it's 100% guaranteed to never have the RRoD :|
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#56 ApocalypseXIVV
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[QUOTE="-Maddog-"][QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"][QUOTE="-Maddog-"]

When will it end?

SgtWhiskeyjack

1. How do I know that's a 360 fitted with Falcon chips.

2. That 360 must be only days old, someone must want attention. Even on a carpet, it wouldn't die that quickly. I'm guessing it's fake.

Make excuses for your beloved 360....smart.

on carpet IT WILL NOT die....aslong as the vents are clear and theres enough vetilations...it should be fine.

Not answering my questions...smart.

How do I know that's a falconed 360?

How old is that 360?

How do we know it has not been faked?

The Halo 360's have only been out a week as far as I know, I can't see one dieing that quick.

FYI, blocking the vents so that you get reduced air flow through the unit is not the only problem, you also suck up dust. Add moisture from the atmosphere, it gets hot when you play it - turn it off it cools and therefore moisture in the air is then condensed, soaking the dust that gathers on components, which then causes tracking and short circuits on PCB's.

Dont you know? According to Cedmin and Maddog we are supposed to all believe everything we see or read on the internet? Thats how we know its a non-fake new falconed 360...cause they told us. How can u not beleive them

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#57 Cesar_Barba
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Also can't any of you use common sense and look at the two different shadows under the 360? There are two. One is made be the 360 and the darker one is made by what it is set on!

USE YOU EYES!!! NOT YOUR GOGLES!

EDIT Fixed spelling. :P

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Sorry guy, goggles.
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#58 dhjohns
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[QUOTE="zaid55"]the falcon chips were put in some of the 360s. IF MS keep this up im a gonna have to buy a PS3 :'(DeathIsARight

Having a PC and a PS3 makes more sense anyway. By not having a 360 what are you really missing?

A lot.

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#59 haris12121212
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[QUOTE="zaid55"]the falcon chips were put in some of the 360s. IF MS keep this up im a gonna have to buy a PS3 :'(DeathIsARight

Having a PC and a PS3 makes more sense anyway. By not having a 360 what are you really missing?

By having a PC and a PS3 I'll most likely miss the money for it... The game PC is way to expensive if you wanna play new games DX 10 thing compatible.
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#60 ktrotter11
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Look at the carpet it's sitting on :lol: The falcon helps keep things cooler, it doesn't make it indestructible.JimmyT2

U act like its siting in a forest

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#61 l-_-l
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Look at the carpet it's sitting on :lol: The falcon helps keep things cooler, it doesn't make it indestructible.JimmyT2
You should put a pair of glasses on and look again. It is sitting on wood, which is sitting on the carpet. Looks like the side of a entertainment stand.
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#62 Immortal_Evil
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you did a nice job switching face plate and case, fake.
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#63 metalisticpain
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I am not buying a 360 purly for the reason i am scared it will brick itself immediatly
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#64 Ballroompirate
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Its a fake or someone is just trying to bash the 360,honestly look at the pick no Memory card and a bad view to see if it has a HD,which if that person doesnt have ether he or she cant really play any games unless you like to start from scratch every time.So my guess someone bought a 360 and tried to get the RROD.

But if its nether then well that sucks, I've had my 360 for 9 months :P.

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[QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"][QUOTE="-Maddog-"]

When will it end?

-Maddog-

1. How do I know that's a 360 fitted with Falcon chips.

2. That 360 must be only days old, someone must want attention. Even on a carpet, it wouldn't die that quickly. I'm guessing it's fake.

Make excuses for your beloved 360....smart.

on carpet IT WILL NOT die....aslong as the vents are clear and theres enough vetilations...it should be fine.

Wrong, setting any electronic that generates alot of heat on carpet will indeed make that piece of electronic overheat. Carpet absorbs heat and holds it, making the electronic device sitting on it EXTREMELY hot.

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#66 redmetal86
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:O its not on the carpet! its floating in mid air!
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#67 Darth_DuMas
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Not all Halo 3 Xbox 360's have the 65nm CPU. Also, you can fake a 3/4 red ring of death by cutting off the power by light switch and then flipping the light switch back on. This proves nothing.BioShockOwnz

MS are still getting rid of old stock this winter, so your far more likely to get a console with a 65nm cpu early next year. This is only a rumor though, but it makes sense. I also get the impression a lot of people don't even realise what the Falcon Chip is, they are just jumping on the "lets bash the 360" bandwagon.

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#68 JimmyT2
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:O its not on the carpet! its floating in mid air!redmetal86

Yes but if I wanted to overheat a console i would put it on that carpet for a few minutes before activating the anti-grav.

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#69 karram
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How did you know that's a 360 with falcon ships ?
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#70 naughtydog360
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How did you know that's a 360 with falcon ships ? ma7moud93

How do you know its not ?

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#71 thinicer
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[QUOTE="ma7moud93"]How did you know that's a 360 with falcon ships ? naughtydog360

How do you know its not ?

We don't know, but since this thread is talking about how the falcon chips are not helping with the RROD, it would be nice to have some evidence that this Halo 3 console does in fact have the new chipset in it. The 65nm Halo 3 console has to be built on or after August 24, 2007 from team "FDOU" and part of lot 734.

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#72 kentaro22
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As Peter Moore himself said, the Hardware problems are various. It isn't just going to be fixed by changing to a lower die CPU. It may help bring down the overall system heat a bit lower, and so reducing the RROD problems. I bet this isn't the last time we'll hear RROD problems in new 65n ''Falcon'' equiped 360s.
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#73 Eurobacca
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I only care when my stuff breaks
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#74 spinecaton
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Of course there will still be faulty ones, the same can be said about any hardware. No matter how well you make it, there will always be a couple that continue to have problems. Same with the Wii, and same with PS3.
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#75 drufeous
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This thread is hilarious. What a bunch of cry babies.
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#76 killaj2786
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the falcon ones are only on the halo 3 ones....

http://kotaku.com/gaming/cooler/xbox-360-falcon-chips-have-landed-305370.php

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#77 tango90101
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the falcon ones are only on the halo 3 ones....

http://kotaku.com/gaming/cooler/xbox-360-falcon-chips-have-landed-305370.php

killaj2786

ouch.

the TC has been pwned...and hard....:lol:

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#78 bobaban
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:lol:

That is funny man, sucks for you but funny. I always said the 360 was a very bad design and they still can't fix the problem. Get ready to spend another billion M$.

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#79 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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M$ better come up with a solution these coming months, it's not good when your discouraged from buying a console just because of it's faulty hardware. They really dropped the ball -___-Kritical_Strike

Well, we know it is a hardware design problem. We also know that even MS offered no guarantee that the new chipset would fix the problem. Only the fanboys believed absolutely that the new chips would be the solution. THey should reduce the number of instances, but the problem is still with the hardware itself, and making the chips smaller isn't the same as a total redesign.

MS should just offer free cooling fan attachments for each 360.

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#80 HarlockJC
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I don't think MS ever said the Falcon chip was going to stop the rings of Death. Just make the systems cheaper to make. I think the fans added the end to rings of death thing.
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[QUOTE="killaj2786"]

the falcon ones are only on the halo 3 ones....

http://kotaku.com/gaming/cooler/xbox-360-falcon-chips-have-landed-305370.php

tango90101

ouch.

the TC has been pwned...and hard....:lol:

Eh, that's the edition he posted a picture of... Way to own yourself.

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[QUOTE="killaj2786"]

the falcon ones are only on the halo 3 ones....

http://kotaku.com/gaming/cooler/xbox-360-falcon-chips-have-landed-305370.php

tango90101

ouch.

the TC has been pwned...and hard....:lol:

What? That doesn't prove anything, unless you have a picture of the barcode :|

"How to tell if your console has the new chip without ripping it apart? Check the barcode sticker on the side of the box. The 65nm chipped Halo 3 console was built August 24, 2007 from team "FDOU" and part of lot 734"

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#84 ToScA-
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[QUOTE="killaj2786"]

the falcon ones are only on the halo 3 ones....

http://kotaku.com/gaming/cooler/xbox-360-falcon-chips-have-landed-305370.php

tango90101

ouch.

the TC has been pwned...and hard....:lol:

You:lol:

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#85 Dreams-Visions
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As far as I can recall, not every Halo 3 console has the Falcon in it. check the Barcode.
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#86 thinicer
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Another thing is that you can reproduce the red ring of death without it meaning the death of your console. After a very slight power fluctuation at my house (turning off and then back on really, really fast) my 360 went red ring on me. I powered it down and then back on, and it was fine after that.

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#87 molinex
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tip for TC everyone knows the 360 should be in a well ventilated area and by the looks of it it isn't

just look at that dirty carpet and the place its located didn't you read the manual ??

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#88 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="killaj2786"]

the falcon ones are only on the halo 3 ones....

http://kotaku.com/gaming/cooler/xbox-360-falcon-chips-have-landed-305370.php

thirstychainsaw

ouch.

the TC has been pwned...and hard....:lol:

What? That doesn't prove anything, unless you have a picture of the barcode :|

"How to tell if your console has the new chip without ripping it apart? Check the barcode sticker on the side of the box. The 65nm chipped Halo 3 console was built August 24, 2007 from team "FDOU" and part of lot 734"

the console the tc is showing is not a halo3 console....;)

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#89 tango90101
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Another thing is that you can reproduce the red ring of death without it meaning the death of your console. After a very slight power fluctuation at my house (turning off and then back on really, really fast) my 360 went red ring on me. I powered it down and then back on, and it was fine after that.

thinicer

agreed. also, loosening some of theconnections in the back will give you red rings....

very easy to fake for pics, so the cows love to do it...

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[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="killaj2786"]

the falcon ones are only on the halo 3 ones....

http://kotaku.com/gaming/cooler/xbox-360-falcon-chips-have-landed-305370.php

tango90101

ouch.

the TC has been pwned...and hard....:lol:

What? That doesn't prove anything, unless you have a picture of the barcode :|

"How to tell if your console has the new chip without ripping it apart? Check the barcode sticker on the side of the box. The 65nm chipped Halo 3 console was built August 24, 2007 from team "FDOU" and part of lot 734"

the console the tc is showing is not a halo3 console....;)

Yes it is...

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#91 lusitanogamer
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The owner of that 360 must be really ******. At least he has a warranty.
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#92 ToScA-
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Maddog brillance yet again...wasnt it proven lloooooooooooooong ago that its easy to fake the red lights...ApocalypseXIVV

I just don't understand why this thread is still on a roll.

Why?

Please help me understand:cry:

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M$ better come up with a solution these coming months, it's not good when your discouraged from buying a console just because of it's faulty hardware. They really dropped the ball -___-Kritical_Strike
It never hurt the fat PS2. Why would it hurt the 360?
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#97 thinicer
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Seems to me that Microsoft can alleviate lots of the RROD problems by just fastening a better clamp on the heatsink of the GPU. Lots of people have solved their RROD problems that way and it seems to be a pretty cheap solution at the manufacturing level.
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#98 bobaban
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Will 360 users and microsoft continue to turn a blind eye to the problem?
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#99 kentaro22
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Seems to me that Microsoft can alleviate lots of the RROD problems by just fastening a better clamp on the heatsink of the GPU. Lots of people have solved their RROD problems that way and it seems to be a pretty cheap solution at the manufacturing level.thinicer
Actually I've heard that the new Heatsinks make the heating problem even worse. I saw it on wikipedia and it does have a citation. (edit) Sorry I miss quoted you, you were talking about the clamps of the heatsink. I though you were talking about the new larger heatsinks.
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#100 rexoverbey
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One 360 with a light proves nothing if it was widescale there would be reports all over the web. There is not even a link to the forum where the game claimed this RROD. It seems like someone just went and searched for a photo of the Halo 3 edition with RROD.