So much for the new falcon chips

[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="kevy619"]

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/23/ps3-broken-straight-out-of-the-box/

see what I did there?

BioShockOwnz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlFK341VqjQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM5VquPX8Hw&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhJZ66uW6Cs&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jow9JSRjiPk&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gUOE48UVeU&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kUxLZWhkUw&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVXzN7jCcRA&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVbyRx_M94Y&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQYta2kRr84

But....PS3's don't break.:roll:

[QUOTE="subrosian"]

My laptop sits on long carpet for hours at a time while I use it - it only gets moderately warm... if carpet can really doom an Xbox 360, then that is poor design on the part of Microsoft. Why? All they had to do was stick a few plastic fins on the bottom to act as a small wedge, so that if it was layed horizontally on carpet, the front end would be lifted an inch or two up, and allow airflow underneath the unit.

This unit isn't even sitting on carpet in the picture. Why do 360 fanatics claim the picture is fake. Do you honestly believe *not a single* faulty Halo 3 edition Xbox 360 exists? Not a single unit could have been manufactured badly, damaged in shipping, or died upon first boot up?
Dreams-Visions

Your laptop is designed to shut itself down in the event of a thermal event. The 360 does not (hence why the towel trick works).

Your laptop probably has a cheap as hell GPU in it that couldn't get hot even if it wanted to.

You make bad decisions. You should not be proud enough to tell people you intentionally sit a laptop on your carpet for hours at a time, covering some of if not all of it's ventallation. Even if it doesn't get overly hot, it's simply unwise.

You presume the solution is simple. If the solution were that simple and cheap, Microsoft would have done that long ago. I think I'd leave it to their engineers to figure it out. They're well educated, so if they thought some plastic bits would get the job done, they would have used them. Instead the redesigned the heatsink and some other stuff to try to reduce the heat. I'm not on their engineering team and neither are you. Neither are 99.999% of the people who comment on this issue. None of us know how simple or complicated the issue is.

[QUOTE="DeathIsARight"]

[QUOTE="zaid55"]the falcon chips were put in some of the 360s. IF MS keep this up im a gonna have to buy a PS3 :'(Kritical_Strike

Having a PC and a PS3 makes more sense anyway. By not having a 360 what are you really missing?

Nah Wii60 combo is more effective.

that MS might not have fixed it with any one hardware revision, and there's no guarantee that the newer 360s aren't getting RRoD as well.
subrosian

Until the evidence starts puring in, Cow's wishful thinking reality. There is no evidence that new newer 360s will get the RROD as well.

Time will tell...

If they didn't fix the problem in this revision, 1 billion dollars and a 3 year warranty will ensure us that we will be able to continue gaming until they do.

And while we game...Cows will wait (and post tons of lies on forums throughout the land, of course).

I felt sorry for the lemmings having their constant RRODs and having to deny them, so I decided to help them out a little. I've been looking around for pictures of the same x360 and here is what I found.

You're welcome lemmings.

mikemil828

Finaly!

Something that actually makes this whole mess of a thread a valid argument. Now, if this had been included in the original post we'd be talking. Where did you find this pic?

I felt sorry for the lemmings having their constant RRODs and having to deny them, so I decided to help them out a little. I've been looking around for pictures of the same x360 and here is what I found.

You're welcome lemmings.

mikemil828

Jeez why can't lemmings admit MS sucks at making consoles. The 360 was a rushed system, everyone knows it. Now they are reaping the benefits.

Here's my two cents:

Microsoft has improved the way 360's have been made since the Elites came out. Yes, there are still cases of consoles red ringing, but the rate at which it's happening with them is normal. Any electronic device is going to have failure rates, and Microsoft put the red rings in the 360's for a reason. I've only heard of like three elites red ringing, and this is the first Halo 360 I've seen with the red rings.

Let me say it again--even if the problem is fixed, there are still going to be hardware failures, it's just the nature of consumer electronics. What matters is if they can get the number of failing units down, which it seems like they have. If you have a 360 with HDMI, then you should be in pretty good shape.

[QUOTE="mikemil828"]

I felt sorry for the lemmings having their constant RRODs and having to deny them, so I decided to help them out a little. I've been looking around for pictures of the same x360 and here is what I found.

You're welcome lemmings.

bobaban

Jeez why can't lemmings admit MS sucks at making consoles. The 360 was a rushed system, everyone knows it. Now they are reaping the benefits.

I too wouldn't simply admit that the 65nm were unable to fix the RROD error when all one had as "evidence" was that more or less meaningless picture.

[QUOTE="mikemil828"]

I felt sorry for the lemmings having their constant RRODs and having to deny them, so I decided to help them out a little. I've been looking around for pictures of the same x360 and here is what I found.

You're welcome lemmings.

ToScA-

Finaly!

Something that actually makes this whole mess of a thread a valid argument. Now, if this had been included in the original post we'd be talking. Where did you find this pic?

The same place that the tc got his pic (whether he knows it or not)

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=181986

Odd, I would have thought that Lemmings would be cheering for joy at the sight of this pic. I guess not, because I'm pretty sure it proves that this x360 isn't a falcon x360

[QUOTE="mikemil828"]

I felt sorry for the lemmings having their constant RRODs and having to deny them, so I decided to help them out a little. I've been looking around for pictures of the same x360 and here is what I found.

You're welcome lemmings.

bobaban

Jeez why can't lemmings admit MS sucks at making consoles. The 360 was a rushed system, everyone knows it. Now they are reaping the benefits.

Who cares what cpu it's using a new system should not break ms makes crappy hardware, nobody with any common sense would buy a new 360 till this problem is resolved.

The same place that the tc got his pic (whether he knows it or not)

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=181986

Odd, I would have thought that Lemmings would be cheering for joy at the sight of this pic. I guess not, because I'm pretty sure it proves that this x360 isn't a falcon x360

mikemil828

Oh dear...

If Microsoft hasn't resolved this issue by late November (Mass Effect), I'm seriously going to lose it.

So? The console is put together poorly and everyone knows that.

My premium launch-bought 360 has yet to RROD, and if it does I can just send it back for FREE and get a new one. In the end I still have an amazing library of games to enjoy and a great, fleshed out online service. Ultimately RROD is more of a corporate issue then a gamer issue. As such I don't see why it's constantly brought up in SW. Everyone is covered by warranty, and it takes a week and a half to fix. Not only that, but plenty of people have launch-bought 360's that have yet to malfunction in any way shape or form.

Would I prefer the 360 have totally stable hardware? Well, of course - but what matters is that Microsoft has taken steps (and money out of their own wallet) to work out the issue and prevent it from becoming a gaming nightmare. The fact that they did so speaks volumes louder than the actions of previous gaming companies in the face of mass-spread hardware failure (DRE, I'm looking at you.)

Jeez why can't lemmings admit MS sucks at making consoles. The 360 was a rushed system, everyone knows it. Now they are reaping the benefits.

bobaban

"God bless the soul of this loyal fan", Sony execs must be thinking.

You guys can post all the pictures in the world...but this does not mean that you are producing hard evidence. You can fool yourselves and convince the feeble-minded, but thats about it.

Do you guys really think this misinformation campaign of yours will hurt MS or help the PS3?

You should instead focus all your energy and start a movement demanding better games from Sony.

Dang, someone got to make this thread before I did. lol. Anyway...

I love the 360, I really do - but geez louise the thing is finicky. I've also heard all this news on the Bungie forums and crap how Halo 3 is screwing up 360's too. It's such a good system, why cant it just be reliable? That's my beef with it, I'm a Playstation fan obviously, but I'm not biased against other consoles, but dumping money into my 360 seems pointless anymore. The 360 needs vents in the front that actually suck air in or something, that would probably be more beneficial to the heat problem then the freaking chips. Sad thing is seems like NOBODY knows about it's horrible failure rates until after they buy it, or until it dies on them. I know I didnt, I know my cousin didnt, my buddy at work didnt. lol. It's crazy, maybe that's why it keeps selling good. I wish MS would truely fix the problem or just rebuild the entire system.

[QUOTE="bobaban"]

Jeez why can't lemmings admit MS sucks at making consoles. The 360 was a rushed system, everyone knows it. Now they are reaping the benefits.

Pimpshigity21

"God bless the soul of this loyal fan", Sony execs must be thinking.

You guys can post all the pictures in the world...but this does not mean that you are producing hard evidence. You can fool yourselves and convince the feeble-minded, but thats about it.

Do you guys really think this misinformation campaign of yours will hurt MS or help the PS3?

You should instead focus all your energy and start a movement demanding better games from Sony.

Dude, forget this picture - it's a known fact way before this Halo console came out that the 360 is faulty, estimated at a 33% failure rate. MS had to extend the console warranty to 3 years and take a 1 billion dollar hit just because of it. It's a pretty known fact that the console was rushed before this was ever posted.

[QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"][QUOTE="-Maddog-"][QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"][QUOTE="-Maddog-"]

=picture of RROD Halo 3 Xbox 360=

When will it end?

subrosian

1. How do I know that's a 360 fitted with Falcon chips.

2. That 360 must be only days old, someone must want attention. Even on a carpet, it wouldn't die that quickly. I'm guessing it's fake.

Make excuses for your beloved 360....smart.

on carpet IT WILL NOT die....aslong as the vents are clear and theres enough vetilations...it should be fine.

Not answering my questions...smart.

How do I know that's a falconed 360?

How old is that 360?

How do we know it has not been faked?

The Halo 360's have only been out a week as far as I know, I can't see one dieing that quick.

FYI, blocking the vents so that you get reduced air flow through the unit is not the only problem, you also suck up dust. Add moisture from the atmosphere, it gets hot when you play it - turn it off it cools and therefore moisture in the air is then condensed, soaking the dust that gathers on components, which then causes tracking and short circuits on PCB's.

[QUOTE="bobaban"]

Jeez why can't lemmings admit MS sucks at making consoles. The 360 was a rushed system, everyone knows it. Now they are reaping the benefits.

Pimpshigity21

"God bless the soul of this loyal fan", Sony execs must be thinking.

You guys can post all the pictures in the world...but this does not mean that you are producing hard evidence. You can fool yourselves and convince the feeble-minded, but thats about it.

Do you guys really think this misinformation campaign of yours will hurt MS or help the PS3?

You should instead focus all your energy and start a movement demanding better games from Sony.

[QUOTE="Bishop1310"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="-Maddog-"][QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"][QUOTE="-Maddog-"]

When will it end?

ToScA-

1. How do I know that's a 360 fitted with Falcon chips.

2. That 360 must be only days old, someone must want attention. Even on a carpet, it wouldn't die that quickly. I'm guessing it's fake.

Make excuses for your beloved 360....smart.

on carpet IT WILL NOT die....aslong as the vents are clear and theres enough vetilations...it should be fine.

Sorry bud. Give me a video and show the 65nm CPU inside and I'll believe you. Until then, it's BS. I gave you 2 reasons as to what it can be. People on the internet love causing drama.

http://www.gamingbits.com/content/view/2782/2/

theres ur link, falcon chips.. aka 65 nm

Till we get an confirmation thatALLHalo 3-X360 editions include the 65nm chip your point is moot. And even if all of these new edition consoles do have this new chip, there is no way of finding out if the Red Ring there is a "faked" error. Several statements such as that have been made in this thread and I still can not believe we're discussing this.

A red ring can be produced simply by not plugging in the video cables.

A ring from not plugging in a video cable is all 4 lights lit up, not 3, microsoft was debating removing that option because ppl would call into microsoft and say oh no i got the red rings, and it happend to be the video cable was loose..lol some ppl

Dude, forget this picture -carljohnson3456

Dude, forget this picture, it is not a picture of a console with the Falcon chip. I don't even think it is a picture of a defective 360 (probably the fabrication of an overzelaous Cow).

it's a known fact way before this Halo console came out that the 360 is faulty,carljohnson3456

True.

estimated at a 33% failure rate.

carljohnson3456

False (your guess is as good as mine).

MS had to extend the console warranty to 3 years and take a 1 billion dollar hit just because of it.

carljohnson3456

True...thank God.

It's a pretty known fact that the console was rushed before this was ever posted.

carljohnson3456

So? How does this statment validate that the console in the picture does indeed have the Falcon chip? How do you know that the console was not tampered with by some demented Cow?

You didn't convince anyone of anything.

[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="bobaban"]

Jeez why can't lemmings admit MS sucks at making consoles. The 360 was a rushed system, everyone knows it. Now they are reaping the benefits.

SergeantSnitch

"God bless the soul of this loyal fan", Sony execs must be thinking.

You guys can post all the pictures in the world...but this does not mean that you are producing hard evidence. You can fool yourselves and convince the feeble-minded, but thats about it.

Do you guys really think this misinformation campaign of yours will hurt MS or help the PS3?

You should instead focus all your energy and start a movement demanding better games from Sony.

And what proof do YOU have that this is a unit with the Falcon chip? None.

What proof do YOU have that this console wasn't put in an oven until the 3 lights appeared? None.

Thanks for playing! Here's your parting gift: :roll:

so 1 broke that means they all broke?? im_different

Cow logic FTW

so 1 broke that means they all broke?? if 1 out of 3 they tried broke then i would be worried. its not like ps3's and wii's are impervious to problems. im guessing halo box breakage is like 2 percent but not 33. im_different

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"][QUOTE="-Maddog-"][QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"][QUOTE="-Maddog-"]

=picture of RROD Halo 3 Xbox 360=

When will it end?

htekemerald

1. How do I know that's a 360 fitted with Falcon chips.

2. That 360 must be only days old, someone must want attention. Even on a carpet, it wouldn't die that quickly. I'm guessing it's fake.

Make excuses for your beloved 360....smart.

on carpet IT WILL NOT die....aslong as the vents are clear and theres enough vetilations...it should be fine.

Not answering my questions...smart.

How do I know that's a falconed 360?

How old is that 360?

How do we know it has not been faked?

The Halo 360's have only been out a week as far as I know, I can't see one dieing that quick.

FYI, blocking the vents so that you get reduced air flow through the unit is not the only problem, you also suck up dust. Add moisture from the atmosphere, it gets hot when you play it - turn it off it cools and therefore moisture in the air is then condensed, soaking the dust that gathers on components, which then causes tracking and short circuits on PCB's.

Tell that to the dust bunnies I blew out of my case the other day, a lot of folks including me, still use good ol air cooling instead of water cooling, and they pull in more dust even with filters than the x360 can ever hope to withstand, with relatively little cost to performance. As for broken Hard Drives, well of course they break, you can't expect something with many different moving parts to keep spinning perfectly forever do you? That's why most computers nowadays are built to anticipate when hard drives might occurs so you can back up your data and be back up and running with little fuss. While with the x360 a RROD means a week and a half with no system.

[QUOTE="DeathIsARight"][QUOTE="QuasidodoJr"]

[QUOTE="NSR34GTR"]
your missing the quality games if you dont get a 360QuasidodoJr

:roll:

Yeah, because we all know the other 2 Halos NEVER made it to PC. :roll:

Because playing it two years late is just the same as playing it today :roll:

And isn't the top pic just the av cables unplugged?

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

Dude, forget this picture -Pimpshigity21

Dude, forget this picture, it is not a picture of a console with the Falcon chip. I don't even think it is a picture of a defective 360 (probably the fabrication of an overzelaous Cow).

it's a known fact way before this Halo console came out that the 360 is faulty,carljohnson3456

True.

estimated at a 33% failure rate.

carljohnson3456

False (your guess is as good as mine).

MS had to extend the console warranty to 3 years and take a 1 billion dollar hit just because of it.

carljohnson3456

True...thank God.

It's a pretty known fact that the console was rushed before this was ever posted.

carljohnson3456

So? How does this statment validate that the console in the picture does indeed have the Falcon chip? How do you know that the console was not tampered with by some demented Cow?

You've didn't convince anyone of anything.

Lol that's ridiculous. You're being stubborn because you're defending your precious 360. I love it too man, I love the 360 too - I play Gears of War all the time, dont be so defensive about it, geesh. The 360 is rushed, faulty, and no, it isnt MY guess - it's failure rate is ESTIMATED NOT BY ME to be 33% http://www.dailytech.com/Retailers+Estimate+Xbox+360+Failure+Rate+High+as+33+Percent/article7892.htm
And how do you know that this picture WASNT tampered with? It's a pretty realistic picture, but the odds fall in the favor that it is indeed real. Quit defending everything by saying "How do you know for sure?" because you dont know either - but we all know the 360 is faulty - PERIOD.

It's a well known fact that the new halo edition 360 uses the new falcon cpu however the gpu is the problem so it's not like they fixed the problem. My 360 has RROD twice in under 6 months now I just leave my ac on andpray. The 360 needs a heat pipe on the gpu or a die shrink before this will go away. My ps3 stays on folding and I even put a 7200rpm hard drive in it and it never blinked and it has the psu in the system.

Ms clearly has the psu huge brick outside and it still has issues don't blame it on the user this is ms's fault for shipping faulty hardware. Why would anybody buy a 360 now when they should know it has a 1/3 chance of failure is beyond me ??

BrooklynBomber

AFAIK, only some HALO3 edition Xbox 360 use the new Falcon chipset, so it might very well be on of the old editions, you'll never know utill we see the lot number;

Taken from Engadget:

We've been waiting and waiting, and after months of speculation, a hardware revision, a couple limited editions, and even a new SKU, it looks like Microsoft is finally shipping "Falcon"-equipped Xbox 360s with 65nm CPUs. According to the eagle-eyed posters in the official Xbox forums, Halo edition 360s from lot #734 appear to be the first machines with the new chips, and the time-honored method of peeking inside the case with a flashlight should confirm you have the latest and greatest once you get your baby home. Check the read links for tons more info (and a fun little flamewar).

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="bobaban"]

Jeez why can't lemmings admit MS sucks at making consoles. The 360 was a rushed system, everyone knows it. Now they are reaping the benefits.

Pimpshigity21

"God bless the soul of this loyal fan", Sony execs must be thinking.

You guys can post all the pictures in the world...but this does not mean that you are producing hard evidence. You can fool yourselves and convince the feeble-minded, but thats about it.

Do you guys really think this misinformation campaign of yours will hurt MS or help the PS3?

You should instead focus all your energy and start a movement demanding better games from Sony.

And what proof do YOU have that this is a unit with the Falcon chip? None.

What proof do YOU have that this console wasn't put in an oven until the 3 lights appeared? None.

Thanks for playing! Here's your parting gift: :roll:

I hope someone put their 399 dollar console in the oven just to post the picture of it on the internet.

How about this:

This picture could be fake OR it might not.Falcon chips aren't going to permanently end the 360's problems.

/thread Have a nice day!:)

So? The console is put together poorly and everyone knows that.

My premium launch-bought 360 has yet to RROD, and if it does I can just send it back for FREE and get a new one. In the end I still have an amazing library of games to enjoy and a great, fleshed out online service. Ultimately RROD is more of a corporate issue then a gamer issue. As such I don't see why it's constantly brought up in SW. Everyone is covered by warranty, and it takes a week and a half to fix. Not only that, but plenty of people have launch-bought 360's that have yet to malfunction in any way shape or form.

Would I prefer the 360 have totally stable hardware? Well, of course - but what matters is that Microsoft has taken steps (and money out of their own wallet) to work out the issue and prevent it from becoming a gaming nightmare. The fact that they did so speaks volumes louder than the actions of previous gaming companies in the face of mass-spread hardware failure (DRE, I'm looking at you.)

_Impmacaque_

Personally I will never buy another xbox till I know they work. All my old consoles work besides my xbox and that's why I got a 360 now that has issues. I am a adult pc gamer so I know how to take care of my hardware the simple fact that mine broke twice speaks volumes. While I can make fun now when it happened I was not laughing and screamed on ms so hard they gave me 1 year of gold and two games to get rid of me.

Wow, you lemmings really do suck, proof or not, there's falcon chipped 360's out there dieing, how come whenever somethings wrong with the 360 there always has to be an excuse?You lemmings really do fail, and are extreme hypocrites, face it, Microsoft rushed out faulty hardware, to get a head start and now loose billions in the process...wait lemme guess link to proof?Ok prove me how MS didn't loose billions?Proove me how the 360 in the thread isn't a falcon chipped one?Doubt without proof doesn't make it anymore unlikely from the truth, and the truth is you guys are hypocrites, and your console breaks, get over it, or 'Wait', how you hypocrites tell cows to do until MS fixes it....

lol you lemmings make me laugh, with excuses for EVERYTHING...

Muzzle_Flashes

Its a shame we all have to fight and mouth eachother when we're in the same boat... We have all dropped a large amount of money on these next gen systems, and have been let down by either faulty hardware, bad software or other things... It seems like next gen came too soon and these large company's werent ready for it yet, and already the next xbox is in the making? well lets hope microsoft can get this one right...I still think the 360 is the best console to have right now despite all the probs its had so far games wise, the 360 is kicking butt. ive had all the systems at least once this next gen and i can say 360 is the best for me.. that console frm nintendo is very reliable, but even one of my buddies had to send his away for repair. nothings perfect.. lets all stop fighting and be nice to eachother, we all did invest in the same thing.. ppl with things in common shouldnt fight, they should help eachother :D

Looks like the lemmings still are incapable of realizing the importance of the pic I just posted. Fine, I'll tell you. The falcon board only started rolling out on x360s manufactured on August 24th and afterwards, this console was built on the 16th. So it's not a falcon. There is currently no evidence of an actual falcon x360 that has failed to my knowledge.mikemil828

What? I thought the Falcons were in production since the 15th?

If what you say is true, I hereby declare this a

/THREAD.

[QUOTE="mikemil828"]Looks like the lemmings still are incapable of realizing the importance of the pic I just posted. Fine, I'll tell you. The falcon board only started rolling out on x360s manufactured on August 24th and afterwards, this console was built on the 16th. So it's not a falcon. There is currently no evidence of an actual falcon x360 that has failed to my knowledge.ToScA-

What? I thought the Falcons were in production since the 15th?

If what you say is true, I hereby declare this a

/THREAD.

As was said previously the first halo 360s with the falcon were from lot # 734, and the earliest #734 that I know of was built on the 24th

I'll say again.This pic could be fake or it might not be.Falcon chips are not going to stop every problem if it's real.

The manufacturing date is a little early.

I declare (like the guy above) an

/thread

[QUOTE="ToScA-"]

[QUOTE="mikemil828"]Looks like the lemmings still are incapable of realizing the importance of the pic I just posted. Fine, I'll tell you. The falcon board only started rolling out on x360s manufactured on August 24th and afterwards, this console was built on the 16th. So it's not a falcon. There is currently no evidence of an actual falcon x360 that has failed to my knowledge.mikemil828

What? I thought the Falcons were in production since the 15th?

If what you say is true, I hereby declare this a

/THREAD.

As was said previously the first halo 360s with the falcon were from lot # 734, and the earliest #734 that I know of was built on the 24th

It's settled then. The Halo Edition Xbox 360 visualized is NOT a Falcon.

It wont completely solve the problem (duh) it just helps,the gpu that causes most of the rrod is still fabricated on 90nm tech,as soon as that thing switched to 65nm early net year then it should help...some more :P

Although i really shouldn't :P because my prem 360 got the rrod last month :(

[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

And what proof do YOU have that this is a unit with the Falcon chip? None.

What proof do YOU have that this console wasn't put in an oven until the 3 lights appeared? None.

Thanks for playing! Here's your parting gift: :roll:

carljohnson3456

I hope someone put their 399 dollar console in the oven just to post the picture of it on the internet.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6997434890751358137&q=destroying+360&total=267&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1375457660773698130&q=destroying+Ps3&total=168&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Ming boggling, huh?

Now imagine one of these idiots sticking a 360 in an oven.

How about this:

This picture could be fake OR it might not.Falcon chips aren't going to permanently end the 360's problems.

/thread Have a nice day!:)

CrossFire245

Ok...and I predict that the endless wave of Sony flops is not going to end until the year 2010.

Now we really /thread

Have a nice day!:)

i have had my 360 for 10 months no problems

falcon chips have not been in 360s yet(unless you can provide a link saying otherwise)

good thing 360 owners have a two year warranty so this really doesn't matter

It wont completely solve the problem (duh) it just helps,the gpu that causes most of the rrod is still fabricated on 90nm tech,as soon as that thing switched to 65nm early net year then it should help...some more :P

blacktorn

Wow, you sound like a leading expert on the subject.

Post a copy of your electrical engineering degree and I'll believe you.

The 65mn chips are coming.KillaHalo2o9

LOL

And apparently Cows are quivering in their boots. :P

Poor Sony fans...they are cornered and forced to lie and spread misinformation. It seems they can't convince anyone to buy their console based soley on its strengths, so they are reduced to this. Pathetic.