So people think Skyward sword actually looks that bad? (56k users beware)

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

So my post is "full of fail" because I'm not being a graphics whore?

turtlethetaffer

Well, as long as we have that out of the way, let me say that you need to look past graphics. Besides, the most important part of graphics is art styIe, and games like SMG2 show this. The game is better looking (as in more appealing to look at) than many HD games. It's one of the best looking games this gen.

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]wow...Skyward sword actually looks better than those last two and about on par with the first screen

Shinobishyguy

Well that is a game from 2005. I would hope a game on a next gen console 6 years from then would look much better

Well take into consideration that most people here mainly play on 360, PS3, or PC so when a game like this comes along it is going to get bashed for bad graphics when we are all used to seeing Crysis, Gears, Uncharted, etc

[QUOTE="Pegalamp"]Yes the game looks like crap. Yes, it does not mean the game itself will suck, but I'm still waiting for the day that the Wii has a game on par with non hd Xbox games.Shinobishyguy

Crispest looking non-hd games I've ever played

Also, if 56k users can't load these screens I don't know what to say.

I'm willing to ignore bad graphics (although I don't see why I should have to on a modern console and a full priced game) but don't go telling me these graphics are "astonishing" and "mind blowing" as people have done previously.

The textures are quite bad. Things in the distance are blurry. The style is quite poor. Again, I can go with cartoonish graphics, if they are done well, but these aren't even done well for a cartoon.

If this was a new IP rather than zelda people wouldn't be so up on the visuals.

It'll be a decent game, worth playing, but it's visually lacklustre and as it uses motion controls is likely to be something not for me. Plus, I've played zelda before. This looks like all the rest of them. If Zelda got herself kidnapped this many times for real I'd probably end up thinking "this girl has attention issues".

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Yes.i5750at4Ghz

Well, as long as we have that out of the way, let me say that you need to look past graphics. Besides, the most important part of graphics is art styIe, and games like SMG2 show this. The game is better looking (as in more appealing to look at) than many HD games. It's one of the best looking games this gen.

I'm sorry, I can't comprehend thinking a game isn't great because of graphics... well, whatever.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Pink-goggles tend to blind people to the truth. Even seeing SS in full motion at 60 fps people will still deny that it looks great. Why? Because its a Nintendo game on the Wii.Haziqonfire

Or maybe it's the fact it doesn't look great. It might have looked great 7 years ago, but today it looks like an outdated POS.

You're comparing 2d games (which age much better due to a more heavy reliance on art than technology) to 3d games. A more apt example would be say the original starfox on the snes.

To use an analogy, old hand drawn films still look great, while old cgi heavy films do not.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

So my post is "full of fail" because I'm not being a graphics whore?

turtlethetaffer

Well, as long as we have that out of the way, let me say that you need to look past graphics. Besides, the most important part of graphics is art styIe, and games like SMG2 show this. The game is better looking (as in more appealing to look at) than many HD games. It's one of the best looking games this gen.

Zelda SS doesn't look particularly great in anything I've seen on it, but it looks even worse in still shots.

As far as the graphics overall, they're not as bad as some may be saying but I absolutely wouldn't call them appreciably better than Rogue Galaxy (as an example).

Has nothing to do with Nintendo hate. Has to do with vastly outdated Tech in there console. The games run at 480p.....i5750at4Ghz

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Has nothing to do with Nintendo hate. Has to do with vastly outdated Tech in there console. The games run at 480p.....foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="Pegalamp"]Yes the game looks like crap. Yes, it does not mean the game itself will suck, but I'm still waiting for the day that the Wii has a game on par with non hd Xbox games.Pegalamp

Crispest looking non-hd games I've ever played

Also, if 56k users can't load these screens I don't know what to say.

I'd be sorry TC butonly if you weren't one who's been so hard on Rare these dayzzzz. :o

Conker on last gen Xbox..

Just sayin bout grx; my opinion is that SS will indeed be a great game but visuals? forgettaboutit. :P

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Or maybe it's the fact it doesn't look great. It might have looked great 7 years ago, but today it looks like an outdated POS.foxhound_fox

Extremely unlikely. We reached a sufficient degree of graphical fidelity during sixth gen that games from then shouldn't be painful to look at anytime soon and the one thing that really might make them painful to look at (higher resolution TVs, etc.) would be less of an issue for PS/360 than they would be for the Wii.

Skyward Sword ALREADY looks blurry at its native resolution and many or most TVs of today already have a resolution that is six times as high.

I've been hearing alot of comments on how it looks like a "ps2 game", some going as far as calling it n64-ish.

Shinobishyguy

Well, Wind Waker may look great artistically, but it's also true the N64 Zeldas actually have more detailed textures in some places.

I think SS looks fine but at the same time I don't think it looks amazingly good. And you have to keep in mind some people just don't like cartoony graphics.

[QUOTE="DealRogers"]

*pics

Now it looks much better?

analogBalrog

@SecretPolice: Where is the aliasing on those images? If they were screencaps of the Xbox, they should have tons of jaggies, especially at that resolution.foxhound_fox

PS, I don't go here often but I've seen a markedly :P difference in your posting when it comes to the big "N" :o is there any umm, there.. there ?

Oh and this is a pretty big oddity for me to be on at this time and it won't last long :cry: so if I don't respond soon after this, I'll try to get back to ya tomorrow.

Just because a game doesn't have the most advanced graphics does not mean it looks horrible. Common sense really.

Just because a game doesn't have the most advanced graphics does not mean it looks horrible. Common sense really.

DJ-Lafleur

It looks like a Gamecube game straight up.

Just because a game doesn't have the most advanced graphics does not mean it looks horrible. Common sense really.

DJ-Lafleur

Its the ground textures more than anything. In Wind Waker, the ground textures are simple and look fine. TP goes for a more realistic approach, but the game is more consistend throughout. SS looks OK, but for its art style doesn't help it look better than it could. Everything looks decent, but the ground is so ugly it looks like it was pulled from a PS2 game. Very inconsistent. I like Wind Waker's look, SS looks... ugly, inconsistent, and kiddie. Coming from a huge fan of Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, or someone who likes the look of Wind Waker (I haven't played it yet tbh), that shouldn't come off as anything other than a fair opinion.

But it will...

Here is the Zelda graphics evolution:

I'd say Wind Waker is the most aesthetic but I have a feeling the final build of SS looks "muddier" than the E3 build.

I liked the Cell shading in wind waker but I didn't like how link looked like Parappa the Rapper. Instead of ditching Cell shading entirely they should have just gotten rid of Parappa.

Thats you. Graphics are an extremely important part of gaming for me. I'm not going to waste my time playing a dated looking game with all of the great modern titles that are currently being released. I feel the same about handheld, never have and never will like them.i5750at4Ghz

I'm sorry that you miss out a ton of games because you choose graphics over everything else.

Its the ground textures more than anything. In Wind Waker, the ground textures are simple and look fine. TP goes for a more realistic approach, but the game is more consistend throughout. SS looks OK, but for its art style doesn't help it look better than it could. Everything looks decent, but the ground is so ugly it looks like it was pulled from a PS2 game. Very inconsistent. I like Wind Waker's look, SS looks... ugly, inconsistent, and kiddie. Coming from a huge fan of Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, or someone who likes the look of Wind Waker (I haven't played it yet tbh), that shouldn't come off as anything other than a fair opinion.

But it will...

RandomWinner

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Thats you. Graphics are an extremely important part of gaming for me. I'm not going to waste my time playing a dated looking game with all of the great modern titles that are currently being released. I feel the same about handheld, never have and never will like them.Haziqonfire

I'm sorry that you miss out a ton of games because you choose graphics over everything else.

I'm not missing anything.i5750at4Ghz

By not playing games because of graphics, you definitely are.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Thats you. Graphics are an extremely important part of gaming for me. I'm not going to waste my time playing a dated looking game with all of the great modern titles that are currently being released. I feel the same about handheld, never have and never will like them.i5750at4Ghz

I'm sorry that you miss out a ton of games because you choose graphics over everything else.

It looks bad. 480i res is horrendous.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]I'm not missing anything.Haziqonfire

By not playing games because of graphics, you definitely are.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

I'm sorry that you miss out a ton of games because you choose graphics over everything else.

Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]I'm not missing anything.i5750at4Ghz

By not playing games because of graphics, you definitely are.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

By not playing games because of graphics, you definitely are.

Shinobishyguy

And bleeding edge tech isn't needed, but 480p ain't cutting it.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Thats you. Graphics are an extremely important part of gaming for me. I'm not going to waste my time playing a dated looking game with all of the great modern titles that are currently being released. I feel the same about handheld, never have and never will like them.i5750at4Ghz

I'm sorry that you miss out a ton of games because you choose graphics over everything else.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

I'm sorry that you miss out a ton of games because you choose graphics over everything else.

LastRambo341

No, no I'm not. If a game doesn't fit my wants and I don't play it because of that fact, I miss nothing.i5750at4Ghz

If you're going to be narrow minded, suit yourself.

However, you're still missing out on a lot of great stuff :).

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] No, no I'm not. If a game doesn't fit my wants and I don't play it because of that fact, I miss nothing.i5750at4Ghz

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] I'm not missing anything.i5750at4Ghz

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] limiting yourself to only playing games that have bleeding edge graphics means that you are missing out on alot of gems. it's an incredibly narrow minded decisionLastRambo341

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]No, no I'm not. If a game doesn't fit my wants and I don't play it because of that fact, I miss nothing.Haziqonfire

If you're going to be narrow minded, suit yourself.

However, you're still missing out on a lot of great stuff :).

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Well its good to be me. I don't play games because of how shiny they are. But play because of their gameplay.LastRambo341